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61  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 04:28:52 AM
Emailed the OP of the site about this. This is the reply I got from him.
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Hello williamj2543
I'm writing to you to apologise.  If I wasn't forced under the financial circumstances I was, I would of love to continue operation and made history.
I had to do what I had to do for my family, recently a member has been admitted to hospital in a critical condition and these funds were my only hope. You saw the previous rounds, The new rounds were a disaster. There was no way this much money was just going to fall into my hands in the future from fees.
I'm deeply sorry, and I hope one day I can come back and you'll understand but of course I never expect to regain the trust again. I would also like to state that I was running bitcoinponzi.io and autoponzi.com. None of those were greatly affected, but I dont think people will want to use those if people know what I did with nextponzi.com
If you would like to take ownership of my site (You are probably the most trusted/oldest member that posts on my threads) I can transfer the site to you

Hmm, this looks a bit suspicious. 13 btc is a lot but about the right amount for a small hospital fee or something.
I'm pretty trusted on here, and if I can work out a deal or something with the other people who automatically negtrust ponzis (I understand that, new accounts can be made in seconds and disposed easily), to not bomb me. I would like to run this for the fees, just like a regular gambling site like my failed coinflip site (not enough activity so I just disabled it), and built trust up as one of the best ponzi sites there is. Its been proven there is more money in taking fees than running away, as fees are continuous and are a good source of income.
I will be contacting the people who are doing the negtrust thing to go over this with them.
I would hook this up to a completely new blockchain wallet, and change the emails, passwords, and everything with the hosting if he wanted to transfer it to me. Let me know how you guys feel about me setting up the site and running it as my own (I would not run it with anyone else because the only person you can trust is yourself).

Is this the real email from moreia or you made it up so you can have a reason to run ponzi with your main account?
This is fake, at first I tried to let the scam blow over but I did the right thing, the email was roughly the same, i attached a screenshot, but I admitted that I was partner, but I do not have the funds back or steal them
62  Other / Off-topic / Huge blame put on me, what should I do? on: January 20, 2015, 04:07:43 AM
Hello,
If you want to know more about this problem please check my recent posts.
I was partnered up with moreia, and he ran away with 13 btc, and now I am taking the blame for it. I have reached into my personal wallet to pay back 2.5 btc, this was MY money and didn't have to be paid back. I did this to be honest, and to help. I could have stayed in the shadows and let this all blow over, but I came out and told what happened.
I understand how people are mad that 13 btc is gone (balance is now ~10 since I paid back), but it seems they don't want to be paid back.
I offered to set up another ponzi (this time with my REAL account) and pay him back with the fees, but no one wants this.
There is no other way for me to pay back this money, and either people don't automatically shout me down, or people help me, and eventually we can get their money back.
I feel extremely depressed about this, and I just don't know how people are so reluctant to help. I proved that moreia was taking part of this.
What should I do? Report this to the police? Where would I send this info and would they do anything with bitcoin?
63  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 03:49:08 AM
You are a scammer,

want to know why? because you made two other games trying to get fees or run away with them instead of just fixing your one game next ponzi.


why would you make two more games? when you already had next ponzi and people were already trusting it?


I now see next ponzi was also an elaborate scam.  do you see weeklyponzi pulling this type of **** ? no right.


to me and most every one you stole the btc and its your fault.



refund every one that trusted in your lies man.


you owe me 1.3 BTC
Read my posts and the threads about me. TLDR my partner ran away with 13 btc right as it opened, I already refunded 2.5 btc and am working to refund the rest of the 10 btc.
64  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam accusation against... Myself and my partner on: January 20, 2015, 03:48:07 AM
First, well done Quickseller.

-snip-
I agreed, this would be a lot of fun, and now I have a partner who is great at selling things (he has a bunch of alts and people he knows that could pump this up).
We first set up nextponzi.com, worked out well, people liked our site, we made almost a btc in fees (split 50/50 between us) and we both thanked eachother for having this great idea.
Nextponzi weekly died down and we wanted to set up some more sites to keep the excitement of fees coming in (we reinvested in our own websites to help keep it going)
-snip-

So both of you invested in your own ponzi, and earned not only from the ponzi fee but also making 130% profit with the real players' bitcoin, am I correct?
If it is true, I think the negative trust is justified even without the 13 btc scam by you or your partner.
Our investments were never paid, no one invested after us and we were at the top of the list. Also we usually just spammed 0.01 6 times.
Please help me resolve this issue, with patience, I can slowly pay back.
65  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: CharityPonzi - 125% - all fees repaid to scammed investors on: January 20, 2015, 03:25:24 AM
Honestly this is not a good way to repay investors, and I would advise anyone to stay away. You should have at least 1.7 BTC from moreia as payment for the privilege to resell your script, plus the 20% he was giving you (you stated that he was selling a lot, so in theory you should have a lot from commissions). You should also have funds from the "fees" from your "honest" ponzi's you were running before moreia robbed you.
You see, this money I got from our partnership (and many other things) was put into the money I paid back to the investors. I didn't need to do this, I'm not the one who ran away. The fees from the ponzi also went into this 2.5 btc, which were not stolen funds, all was made honestly.
The way you described things, you were making a lot more then 2.5 BTC (actually .8 BTC if you count the 1.7 he paid you at first) from your partnership. Maybe your standards are different then mine.

Like I said a better way would be to use your persona fiat based assets if you do not have any more bitcoin. (or as mentioned above take out a fiat based loan)
Im not letting my personal life getting into this, I'm not taking a loan, this isn't my wrongdoing. He never paid me the full 1.7 btc, we got to around 1.1 before this partnership.
If you want to get the communities money back, please help me with this. I could just leave right now, and all that you would have is a couple negative points on a random guy on the internet.
I am not going to do this because I have morals and know that this money should be returned. I've already put 2.5 btc of MY OWN MONEY into this.
I repeat my previous statements. I could have just sat there and done nothing, and this scam wouldn't be related to me. I told everyone that I was involved because I thought the community would help me with this problem that was not in my control.
By simply gambling, we could EASILY pay back this 10 btc through fees. If we reach a total of a fifth of the volume of weeklyponzi.com, we could pay this back.
66  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mentally coping with Loss - Thread on: January 20, 2015, 03:19:08 AM
I lost 2.5 btc, and my customers lost 13 btc because my idiot partner ran away with the money to support this "health problem" that suddenly came up. I now have to fucking pay back this money, and for some reason I'm taking shit for it.
I honestly need some help coping with this.
67  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 03:15:28 AM
The first 2 rounds were fine, they ran as normal, no one was affected by them. Remember the 30% profit has to come from somewhere.
I am setting up a new ponzi to regain investors funds through fees, which will use an escrow to hold the fees wallet.
Please bear with me as I try to get your money back.

Are you kidding me? Just look at the blockchain, it never lies... Some investors funds in the first weekly weren't registered correctly and thus not paid out when they should've been, just read the thread.
I was one of the first investors and wasn't paid, though I was promised 10+ times to be refunded within a day, asap and so on. Will you deny that.

Just look at the timestamps of the TX-IDs:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7c71bbf7029efd6e4ab24dc7901187844bb8ed9e04fb972c32cff51e3f0ca1fa
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/f9d45e279cacb152c5198680777f69ad232385b0bdedda892fc1155b3cb97fa7
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/1fde6df09a3e32fd4600f91ad5cbdf76206829f818c6ea9251bd0dbca7faef7b
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/1ecb83473ec78f2e3c82e6b02da57af0b54d17a20733bf40288294cd04b7d2be
First of all it wasn't me who kept reassuring you it would be repaid within a day, this was my partner who was controlling the account, but I do think its fair that you are refunded.
Your funds were the only ones left, and I believe 1 or 2 of yours was paid.

None was paid, just click on the sending addresses in the 4 transactions and you will see, that I got nothing back from NextPonzi...
Ok I understand this now. I now need to pay back 12 btc in total
68  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 03:11:48 AM
The first 2 rounds were fine, they ran as normal, no one was affected by them. Remember the 30% profit has to come from somewhere.
I am setting up a new ponzi to regain investors funds through fees, which will use an escrow to hold the fees wallet.
Please bear with me as I try to get your money back.

Are you kidding me? Just look at the blockchain, it never lies... Some investors funds in the first weekly weren't registered correctly and thus not paid out when they should've been, just read the thread.
I was one of the first investors and wasn't paid, though I was promised 10+ times to be refunded within a day, asap and so on. Will you deny that.

Just look at the timestamps of the TX-IDs:
https://blockchain.info/tx/7c71bbf7029efd6e4ab24dc7901187844bb8ed9e04fb972c32cff51e3f0ca1fa
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/f9d45e279cacb152c5198680777f69ad232385b0bdedda892fc1155b3cb97fa7
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/1fde6df09a3e32fd4600f91ad5cbdf76206829f818c6ea9251bd0dbca7faef7b
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/1ecb83473ec78f2e3c82e6b02da57af0b54d17a20733bf40288294cd04b7d2be
First of all it wasn't me who kept reassuring you it would be repaid within a day, this was my partner who was controlling the account, but I do think its fair that you are refunded.
Your funds were the only ones left, and I believe 1 or 2 of yours was paid.
69  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: CharityPonzi - 125% - all fees repaid to scammed investors on: January 20, 2015, 03:09:58 AM
You knew exactly what you were doing with this ponzi SCAM.

http://gyazo.com/e79cb94eacbcda9611ae3284f790c055

Your plan was to be dishonest from the start. Have people you know invest first, so that they get paid and other gets screwed? Don't try to play the good guy that got played by his partner. You're a scammer, plain and simple.

If you're really honest, do more web work until you can pay everyone. Don't expect it through some bogus charity ponzi.

I agree, starting another ponzi isn't the way to solve this...
How would we solve it then? It would take months of work to pay for this with web work, and by then it wouldn't matter because my account is trashed, and no one would work with me. The only way to fix this is to PROVE I'm trustworthy, and pay back my 10 btc.
70  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam accusation against... Myself and my partner on: January 20, 2015, 03:07:27 AM
The ponzi that I will use to regain funds is going up in an hour. For the investors who want their funds back, please support me in getting your money back. If a trusted user (quickseller could be used) could give me their address to be used as a fees wallet (to hold fees to pay back) that would be fantastic. I probably will have more trouble getting investments if you keep shouting me down, so if you want your monewy back please try to help.
I do not act as escrow. I am not willing to risk my personal funds in the unlikely event that the bitcoin is somehow stolen, not do I want to put in the time/effort into repaying victims for a scam that I warned people against getting into.
No personal funds are risked, just generate a new address and hold the fees. Hold them until you get enough to pay back investors, do something good for the community.
If you need an escrow, I might do it for a small fee depending on how often I need to make payments out. Does the escrow need to pay out every person who plays in the ponzi?
Payments don't need to be THAT often, maybe 1 or 2 at a time, you wouldn't be running the ponzi (unless the community wants to put the trust on someone else), you would receive fees automatically periodically, and when you have enough like 2btc, pay back whoever you can.

I'll do the escrow for a 1% fee if you wish. The funds would be stored on an offline machine.
I guess we will have you handle the fees then.
The ponzi that I will use to regain funds is going up in an hour. For the investors who want their funds back, please support me in getting your money back. If a trusted user (quickseller could be used) could give me their address to be used as a fees wallet (to hold fees to pay back) that would be fantastic. I probably will have more trouble getting investments if you keep shouting me down, so if you want your monewy back please try to help.

You admitted to scamming and being dishonest in your original post. You broke multiple forum rules to promote these ponzis. Collaborated with moreia through skype on how to squeeze the most money out of unsuspecting users. You must be fucking delusional if you think anyone would trust you or would want to help you. The people who gambled/threw their money away on your ponzis are going to have suck up the loss as a bad decision.

I actually did not admit to scamming, I admitted to being the partner to him, and running these 3 sites which were intended to be honest, except my partner ran away.
I did admit to being dishonest, but promoting ponzis is not a rule.
Think of it like this
Why the hell would I come back and own up to being a Co-Owner instead of just going out and making a Ponzi site with no "Visible" connections to the scams?
I could easily make a fake throwaway account and people would invest. I came out to the community because I wanted to regain these funds, and help repay the people who lost almost 2000$ worth of bitcoins.
I could have EASILY hid away and not made that post, and none of this would've happened.
I lost my fucking 2.5 btc in this, which I made honestly and not stealing from people.
It seems like you don't want me to help in repaying the people who got scammed?
71  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: CharityPonzi - 125% - all fees repaid to scammed investors on: January 20, 2015, 03:02:27 AM
yeah , your 'partner' .. sure .. running another scam to add on the scammed amount ?
I have proved many times (others have realised as well) that moreia and his many alts have been involved in this.
I have no intention to scam, and have already paid back some money, as much as I could.
You can keep that amount you scammed me , take your family out for dinner or some shit with it.
If you're gonna run another ponzi to pay us back, i rather not have the refunds as it's ripped off from others again.
I want to repay the community, why can't you see this. I have 2 choices, run away with zero funds (and without my 2.5 btc paid back), and a bad account. If I pay this back, i prove again that I was trustworthy just like before, and you all get your money (almost 2000$) back.
Honestly this is not a good way to repay investors, and I would advise anyone to stay away. You should have at least 1.7 BTC from moreia as payment for the privilege to resell your script, plus the 20% he was giving you (you stated that he was selling a lot, so in theory you should have a lot from commissions). You should also have funds from the "fees" from your "honest" ponzi's you were running before moreia robbed you.
You see, this money I got from our partnership (and many other things) was put into the money I paid back to the investors. I didn't need to do this, I'm not the one who ran away. The fees from the ponzi also went into this 2.5 btc, which were not stolen funds, all was made honestly.
72  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam accusation against... Myself and my partner on: January 20, 2015, 02:56:50 AM
The ponzi that I will use to regain funds is going up in an hour. For the investors who want their funds back, please support me in getting your money back. If a trusted user (quickseller could be used) could give me their address to be used as a fees wallet (to hold fees to pay back) that would be fantastic. I probably will have more trouble getting investments if you keep shouting me down, so if you want your monewy back please try to help.
I do not act as escrow. I am not willing to risk my personal funds in the unlikely event that the bitcoin is somehow stolen, not do I want to put in the time/effort into repaying victims for a scam that I warned people against getting into.
No personal funds are risked, just generate a new address and hold the fees. Hold them until you get enough to pay back investors, do something good for the community.
If you need an escrow, I might do it for a small fee depending on how often I need to make payments out. Does the escrow need to pay out every person who plays in the ponzi?
Payments don't need to be THAT often, maybe 1 or 2 at a time, you wouldn't be running the ponzi (unless the community wants to put the trust on someone else), you would receive fees automatically periodically, and when you have enough like 2btc, pay back whoever you can.
73  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 02:53:32 AM
The first 2 rounds were fine, they ran as normal, no one was affected by them. Remember the 30% profit has to come from somewhere.
I am setting up a new ponzi to regain investors funds through fees, which will use an escrow to hold the fees wallet.
Please bear with me as I try to get your money back.

wtf is wrong with you ? setting up another ponzi ? to rip others to pay back the rest ? dude stop this shit, get a job, make some real income you scum.
Please understand what a ponzi is. It is gambling like any other. The fees will be used to slowly pay back investors. Let me prove to you that I am not a scammer. After the 10btc is paid back I will quit ponzis and partnerships. You can't trust anyone but yourself.
74  Economy / Investor-based games / CharityPonzi - 125% - all fees repaid to scammed investors on: January 20, 2015, 02:51:33 AM
Well, its me, and you guys know me as the secondary owner of autoponzi, fastponzi, and bitcoinponzi.
If you haven't heard what happened, check my recent posts and my trust.
My partner ran away with 13 btc, and is gone with his money while I'm taking shit for what he did.
Is it fair that I took the blame? No, but I have a liability to pay this amount back, as a trusted member here (until now)
I have already dipped into MY pockets and paid 2.5 to some investors, and I need to repay the next ~10 btc back.
Its either this, or they get nothing, since there is no way I can obtain that much money.
I am doing this to regain the trust on my account, prove everyone that im not a scammer, and pay the scammed investors back.
Site will be up soon, will be fully automatic, and will pay out.
If a trusted escrow could step up and hook up his wallet to the place where fees go, that would be optimal in gaining trust.
So the rules, minimum 0.01 btc maximum 1.5 btc, 125% payouts when the next person sends (you all know how these things work), and 5% will be taken as a fee from the payout amount, and given to the escrow address
Address and site will launch soon.(within an hour or so)
75  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 02:49:52 AM
The first 2 rounds were fine, they ran as normal, no one was affected by them. Remember the 30% profit has to come from somewhere.
I am setting up a new ponzi to regain investors funds through fees, which will use an escrow to hold the fees wallet.
Please bear with me as I try to get your money back.
76  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam accusation against... Myself and my partner on: January 20, 2015, 02:48:40 AM
The ponzi that I will use to regain funds is going up in an hour. For the investors who want their funds back, please support me in getting your money back. If a trusted user (quickseller could be used) could give me their address to be used as a fees wallet (to hold fees to pay back) that would be fantastic. I probably will have more trouble getting investments if you keep shouting me down, so if you want your monewy back please try to help.
77  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Ponzi Script For Sale on: January 20, 2015, 02:05:08 AM
Thats not me, I have already paid back 2.5 btc to investors, more on the way.
I will prove to you that I am trustworthy again.
78  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] [HIGHEST RATES] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: January 20, 2015, 12:24:40 AM
williamj2543 has admitted to running multiple ponzi sites. If that is not something you want associated with your company then you might want to ask him to remove your signature.
I do not deny this, I have admitted to running them, but I have already started paying back investors the amount that my partner stole.
Trust me if you want, but the majority of the posts under this campaign have been made without the bad trust,
79  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 12:08:17 AM
Sorry for not editing the above post, but I will not be editing ANY post for ANY reason from now on, to keep it transparent as possible.
I forgot to state that someone had this problem before, they sent too little, and I said that was the last tx that we would refund for not reading the rules.
Rules are clearly on the thread and the site.
80  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [35BTC INVESTED] NextPonzi.com | Weekly Reset | 100% AUTOMATIC | 130% Payout on: January 20, 2015, 12:07:10 AM
I just received my investment in nextponzi back:
https://blockchain.info/tx/bb702c38cd38b9fde73b27903870c44c9ee165b6d99e4d8e025408ddabff2fbe

Wiliam seems really honest and I feel for him being scammed by that guy :/

Full story here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930008

No he's not. He's just trying to cover his ass. Digging for more evidence now as we speak.

Why is he refunding investors then?

How you know he's not just refunding his alts ? Also that's not amounting to what he stole .

First of all, they aren't my alts, a couple people have already came and thanked me for my payment, and you can see that the choice of people I paid back wasn't arbitrary, I started from the bottom (with the exception of the 2btc tx, and the 1.5 btc tx). The 2btc tx is over the limit and was kept as a donation, so I am not liable for that, but I will still attempt to pay it back if a trusted person helps me get your money back. The 1.5 btc tx was chosen to not be paid, because if I chose to pay back 1.5 I could only refund a couple people, only the big whale and a few others. 0.03 btc is a lot to some people, and I would rather be able to pay back more people than only a handful. The 1.5 btc will be processed next though, when I obtain some more funds.
I would say that would still be arbitrary. If the 2 BTC transaction was not allowed then it should have been refunded (minus a TX fee) as soon as it was received.

It is also possible that you knew this was coming and invested your own money at a certain time so you could refund as much as possible to yourself
I honestly did not know that this was coming. We state that all txs ABOVE or BELOW the limit are treated as DONATIONS, meaning a direct payment to us, thanking us for our service.
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