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1041  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in France: first legal decision directly related to Bitcoin? on: October 23, 2011, 12:48:53 AM
the same will probably happen to the other bank accounts, look at britcoin/intersango they had an account with barclays i think which got shut down and their HSBC account also just got shut down

This. The banks are continually fucking with us, taking up around 70% of our time and has cost us thousands.

The amount of bureaucratic work we put into keeping the exchange running is unbelievable. This court decision is about the worst possible news ever and threatens to end all the exchanges in Europe. We are worried now.

I recommend people, to not keep more than they absolutely need on the exchanges. You should be doing that anyway. Unfortunately many people use us as a savings account (against our recommendation).
1042  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Diaspora accepting Bitcoin donations! on: October 21, 2011, 05:28:20 PM
I do not think Diaspora is a wise use of cash.

There are far better free software projects to donate to. Diaspora raised more than 200k last year to write a simple web application, it's still not finished... and they need more?

Both and (elgg) are projects made on much small budgets and teams (appleseed is one guy AFAIK), and they're far better. Your money won't be efficiently used if donated to Diaspora.

I would pick some piece of free software you use often or you think Linux needs, and donate to that Smiley TBH the diaspora guys come off clueless when you watch their initial fund-raising video. The software itself is pretty bad and requires all these esoteric dependencies rather than using tried and tested libraries.

1043  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mappers vs Packers. Why Most People Don't Get Bitcoin on: October 21, 2011, 05:20:18 PM
This is all pseudoscience.

Talk page:

This isn't exactly a real psychological theory. This is just a hypothesis thought up by a computer programmer/blogger. While I think it is interesting, I don't really think it needs it's own Wikipedia page linked as a psychology stub. Maybe once some folks with PhD.'s do some experiments and actually turn it into a theory, then we can write about it here. Otherwise, I am forced to assume that this page was added to Wikipedia by the blogger himself. If this is the case, then this is improper use of Wikipedia.
1044  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: October 20, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
I call your sign and raise you a banner,

My friend Jaromil was at Occupy Amsterdam with that Smiley
1045  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: David G.W. Birch talk at the European Bitcoin Conference Prague 2011 on: October 20, 2011, 07:32:07 AM
Number 2. looks good "The European Payments Environment" to see what competition bitcoin has and how it fits in the regulatory frameworks.
1046  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A minimum Bitcoin daemon. on: October 19, 2011, 09:49:06 PM
genjix...I saw that  Grin

lol, yeah I didn't feel like I was contributing much to the convo so I was going to type a proper response instead but then... ahhh lost interest.

Here's the unfinished version:

C++ is perfectly standard and for good reason. C is simplistic which makes it ideal for small projects.

I think critics of C++, cannot code C++. It's not only C with classes, but template meta-programming, RAII, design patterns, generalised expressions and so on, all with type-safety.

There's a reason many large projects are written in it, but not in Python. But the language is not easy to learn and
1047  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead & I predictied it - let's channel our discontent into OWS! on: October 18, 2011, 02:34:49 PM
4 :: Pay for Healthcare and social services with a 1% Wall Street Sales Tax:

Is this a joke? 1% tax on every transaction would kill liquidity and destroy the economy.
1048  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Occupy London - suggestions plox on: October 16, 2011, 09:30:57 PM
I don't understand. "Occupy London Stock Exchange"? Why would people go against a stock exchange?

<OccupyLSX647> Hi all, is there plans to cripple the stock exchange by organising a mass withdrawal yet? If not I can get a project under way. A complete collapse of the system by just removing our funds would be the ultimate slap in the face!!
<genjix> that won't work.
<OccupyLSX647> On a global scale it would...
<genjix> you can't cripple a stock exchange by withdrawing from a bank

Naivete. Their hearts are maybe in the right place at least. It's a good chance to show people bitcoin exists. Not sell them on our propaganda, but build a bridge.
1049  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Occupy London - suggestions plox on: October 16, 2011, 05:36:05 PM
I'm going down to Occupy London tomorrow. Feel free to join me.

I'll be doing the usual talk, Q&A and fliers for bitcoin. Suggestions welcome below.
1050  Other / Off-topic / Upwards mobility on: October 15, 2011, 02:00:05 PM
"The biggest indicator for success in America is not a level of merit or hard work, but the amount of wealth inherited from family members", says Samuel Bowles, an economist at the Sante Fe institute.

1051  Other / Off-topic / RIP Dennis Ritchie on: October 13, 2011, 10:28:34 AM
>Greedy misanthropist that sold shiny gadgets with sweatshop labor dies and is praised by millions.

>Creator of the most widely used programming language of all time and pioneer of Unix, both arguably a significant contributing factor to the success of every modern tech company, dies and not a single newspaper cares.

Inventor of C and UNIX. 4chan has a sticky for him. That's the extent of media coverage I could find.

A real legend of technology has died and nobody will even understand what he did.

1052  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anti-Bitcoin people for the European Bitcoin Conference on: October 11, 2011, 05:01:32 PM
lonelyminer sent me this PM:

I don't have permissions to post outside of newbie forums so I'm replying with a PM. How about Nielsio, he made the famous "Don't buy Bitcoins" video on youtube, and he's from Netherlands if I remember right so travel wouldn't be very far.
1053  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Anti-Bitcoin people for the European Bitcoin Conference on: October 11, 2011, 04:48:41 PM
We've got a great lineup for the conference (and some more which aren't on there yet), but are still missing speakers against bitcoin!

Many pro or neutral bitcoin people we ask are enthusiastic, but we haven't been able to get any anti- people on board. One of them even responded negatively to me, despite me being very polite. Perhaps they are too emotionally invested in hating on bitcoin or seeing us as scammers! (who knows)

Anyway, please suggest people we can contact. I'd hate for this to be a bitcoin cult meeting, and would rather have an open discussion from both sides. There's too much group-think and memetic inbreeding in the community.

We have all the groups covered, but feel free to suggest other people too.
1054  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks caught stealing Can't be prosecuted because its all of them. on: October 11, 2011, 04:40:30 PM
Hey DavinciJ15! Glad to see your last video about writing software. Best of luck. Make sure to stop by the IRC channels #bitcoin and #bitcoin-dev (and our own #bitcoinconsultancy) as that's where the community is at.
1055  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #occupywallstreet #operationbitcoin GA Bitcoin Speech for Open Mic on: October 11, 2011, 03:52:53 PM

It's always the same story. So much talking and bitching, yet so little action to make things change!

People bitch ALL THE TIME against the governments and banks, how bad and how much of a scam they are, etc. And then when we FINALLY offer them a concrete alternative, something that is already here and that COULD work for all of us, they just shit on it and bitch about how much of a scam it must be, how it will miserably FAIL and all that pessimistic stuff.

If we decide that it will fail, and reject it before even giving it a chance, well then yes OF COURSE it will fail. I think the concept of Bitcoin is brilliant, but I'm saddened by all the negative things I already read about it. Why don't we just all give it a try and see, instead of snobbing it right away? No need to invest huge sums into it, but why not all give it a try, do some small exchanges, etc, and see if it eventually takes off and become big? Things like MP3s, Linux, Firefox and Torrents took off, because people embraced it and started using it massively and spreading the love about it. The same could be true for Bitcoin. But If you just reject it right away thinking that it will inevitably fail, well then yes, of course it will!!!

But then after it does (fail), don't come back to us and bitch against banks and how evil they are and how we need to take them down and everything. You had your chance to do just that and you blew it... :-P

Another pessimistic thing I often hear is how it will be made "illegal" by "official" authorities, or how mainstream sites will never adopt it. That's possible, but even then so what? Why can't we start a NEW parallel economy on its own and make it OURS? Screw Amazon, Paypal and eBay if they don't want to support Bitcoins. We'll simply create new sites to replace them!! People need to learn how to think OUTSIDE of the box! Another world is possible if we all work it out together! It's all up to us to create it.

Revolutions don't just happen when people don't do anything folks!!!
1056  Other / Off-topic / Re: Narcissism Defined on: October 09, 2011, 04:22:32 PM
1057  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why are you not at Wall Street? on: October 09, 2011, 07:58:28 AM

1058  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why are you not at Wall Street? on: October 09, 2011, 04:18:29 AM
I found this in an Occupy Wall Street discussion:
>Capitalism doesn't work, but not for the reasons that you stated.
It doesn't work because it does not respect the Free Market. Capitalism has become:
1) regulation on efficient small business through lobbies and the perpetuation of inefficient non-diversified monstrosities that can actually be unprofitable (GM, Citibank, etc.)
2) taking money that wasn't earned, by producing a valuable product to be exchanged on the open market at current demand, but rather using a "financial instrument" to make money in the shuffle of the reallocation of assets
3) Capitalism has also become legalized crime against our life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

The VERY worst thing that we have done is to mistake capitalism with the free market. This #OW is a bad idea though, it only perpetuates the class divide; leading to greaterr regulation and restrictive legislation that only serves to bring us closer to what we have fought against for 2 centuries: FASCISM.

Not too different from the views of some here. Uses different terms though.

Another quote:

Interesting how people in the Tea Party movement, the Occupy movement, & the Anonymous movement are all sensing a problem.

You can feel a problem in your bones if you stop for a second & listen to your body & ask the Universe for answers.

2012, or not,... it truly feels like the manipulation is coming to an end.

Our founding fathers had great ideas about protecting the citizens from corruption, subversion, and conspiracy.

I'd like to start listening to them on this issue a little more closely.

@ChaseRocker Actually, you idiot, many of us have jobs. Many of us head down to our local protests after work or class or over. Have you even bothered looking into this movement besides what FAUX NEWS might tell you about it? We aren't leftists, we aren't "liberals" we're people. Try actually coming out to an occupation and you'll see just how diverse the crowd is for yourself. Only one who's deranged here is you, but it's okay. You can continue being a part of the problem.

Leftist and rightist is a dividing issue. They are people.
1059  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: - Brand new exchange market! on: October 09, 2011, 12:23:13 AM

So two out of three, though Intersango is claiming different.   

I do wonder when that Crypto X is going to open, at the least they can look on all these other errors in the scams and make the one ultimate scam.

The hacker that took funds from Intersango through a vulnerability has already posted about it on the forums.

Hell, even our own team has been able to poke holes in ExchB, Intersango and TradeHill.

I don't know why these super-small exchanges keep thinking they are bigger than mathematics. There is nothing wrong with admitting a problem with code. It is the first step to fixing it.

The only reason we don't hear about more hacks on mtGox is because people are still doing it and getting rich off of it.

Give us the link then instead of making outrageous claims.
1060  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ganzfeld effect on: October 08, 2011, 09:05:21 AM
Strange. It worked last night; first time I was seeing stars then faces and I instantly stopped because it freaked me out. Second time some big ancient tunnels. But now this morning nothing's happening :/

Guess you have to be tired and relaxed.

Edit: OK, well I got some nice visuals and cool imagery, but nothing as intense as last night...
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