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2081  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a new thought experiment: bitcoin's industry identifier on: December 20, 2010, 02:38:06 AM
Firstly you guys might want to check out our project:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/rake-free-open-poker-room-run-poker-community-938389/

http://poker.bitcoinvegas.com/wiki

Secondly, just because you don't yet know the applications of Bitcoin, doesn't mean they don't exist. Very clever things we never thought of are going to spring up. New ways of doing things.

It makes me feel so good that I made 500 BTC worth of my bitcoins in a diversified way- a) played poker b) donations for bringing that Wikipedia article out of the incubator c) hacking up a website over 1 weekend and selling it d) trading currency. It's not much money, but it is a very cool feeling.

If bitcoin takes off then there will be a new economy of workers on the internet; people selling artwork, people receiving donations for editing wikipedia, coders getting micropayments...

... A new cultural revival Smiley
2082  Other / Off-topic / Re: would you buy a robotic bird for bitcoins ? on: December 20, 2010, 12:51:15 AM
That thing is incredible. Something like from terminator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9ByGQGiVMg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5JHMpLIqO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJJQ0zNNOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhj3Z9o6t0g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jyBiECoS3Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSCLBG9KeX4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPVQal851U

Future is here guys.
2083  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Be careful of speading misinformation on: December 20, 2010, 12:34:15 AM
People aren't stupid. You lie and it will bite you in the ass. Don't we always argue for openness and transparency?
2084  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BitCoin Command Line Parameters, Reference Image on: December 20, 2010, 12:18:13 AM
Thank you. I will print this off ready for the next time I have a shower.
2085  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Wiki on: December 20, 2010, 12:15:06 AM
Theymos dumped lot of wiki pages from the old wiki. Some of them are duplicate information and should be merged into existing articles.

Make a category of pages and somebody might update them when they have time Roll Eyes

Put the category listing here.
2086  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: current state of bitcoin reached the limit of growth? on: December 19, 2010, 11:55:28 PM
Sure, maybe you want to come into our channel on #pokerface

Can give you a demo Grin
2087  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: current state of bitcoin reached the limit of growth? on: December 19, 2010, 11:04:31 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/rake-free-open-poker-room-run-poker-community-938389/

http://poker.bitcoinvegas.com/wiki

Cheesy
2088  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Wiki on: December 19, 2010, 09:20:03 PM
http://bitcoinvegas.com

Ok, so on our site ^ I wrote a bot which updates with forum posts (on the right). I could do the same for here but I couldn't find an API for swf.
2089  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [Selling] Art Assets / Programming / Web Design / Homework Help / You name it! on: December 19, 2010, 04:09:36 PM
I think you should offer your services for free to build a portfolio where your work is being used somewhere. As it stands now, those sketches won't fly. Another tip is that 5 of your best quality artworks showing a variety of styles is much more impressionable lots and lots of mediocre work.

And that license- retaining control over a work on my website? Forget it.

Not trying to be harsh, but I don't see any finished quality works. Just a bunch of sketches and lots of badly coloured drawings. If you want to get into graphics design, then I suggest trying to make functional works in a vector program and go from there. If you wish to do fine art, then read Andrew Loomis books on figure drawing.
2090  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin Wiki on: December 19, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
Can you please rename Wiki to Help?

I know for us it's easy to understand. But other's may not understand that it's the Bitcoin documentation.

Anyway, check out my guide Wink

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getting_started
2091  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin across the world on: December 19, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
Very cool, are locations generally accurate? I'm not seeing myself, but I almost always have bitcoin open.

http://www.maxmind.com/app/faq#accurate (I'm using the free city database)

Interesting, there are three within 25 miles of me, so maybe I am one of those.

if you want to know which then google "what is my ip", and go to the google maps link. scroll down for your ip address.
2092  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Esperanto ! on: December 19, 2010, 11:59:38 AM
Ni afiŝu ĉi tie ke tiu havas plej afiŝojn Grin
2093  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Poker and the shared pot at the table in a decentralised network on: December 19, 2010, 12:27:38 AM
Hey,

Over the past days having discovered bitcoin has driven my mind wild. All this year I've been reading a lot about distributed networks. I was a programmer and I'm hugely interested in maths.

When we play Poker online, we are using a centralised network. You deposit your cash online, sit down at a game and play. You place your trust in the site to be secure; no other players can see your hands and no money is being secretly stolen from you. Even big name sites have been known to cheat and smaller sites just shut down and steal your money.

There are two well known sites- PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker. By being secure, they charge you excessive amounts to use their service. The market is monopolised by them since small sites are untrustworthy. This year I played on PokerStars and made $3k profit and payed $4.5k in rake- so I had to win $7.5k in total and hand over more than half my winnings to PokerStars. Many players hate this.

A decentralised Poker network (using bitcoin). Here's the advantages:
+ Government heavily taxes Poker sites. Decentralised networks are outside the law.
+ No rake.
+ Don't need to place your trust in a company
+ Customise your client since you own the source!
+ No tracker sites gathering statistics on your play against the rules of Poker

How could such a thing be implemented?

Mental poker is a scheme for neutrally verifying cards among players but is slow. Yet I imagine there's ways to speed it up by relying on trust/probabilistic methods.

The real problem is money put into the pot. For those unfamiliar with Poker I'll explain: People bet on the strength of hands, and put money in a pot. After so many betting rounds, both players show their hands. The strongest hand wins the money put in the middle. How can this be decentralised?

The best scheme I imagined was if the pot was stored by a third party. We want to protect against collaboration so using the other players not involved in the hand at the table is not possible (5 of the 6 players on the table could be collaborating together and just steal your money). Each player could nominate a few escrows each that hold fractional amounts of the money. Since people disconnect (bad internet .etc), the escrows would need to be dedicated services.

6 players sit down at a table. Each nominates 2 escrow services that hold the money (12 in total). Player A and B start betting and putting money in the pot. $200 goes into 12 escrows or $17 each. After they show the hand everyone agrees player A won. But one escrow refuses to award their share of the $7 to A... Everyone at the table blacklists that escrow to never trust them again and alerts everyone else in the network. If the majority of the players at the table >50% agree that an escrow is bad, then everyone blacklists them.

This would be a great boost for bitcoin. My scheme is full of holes though. Looking for ideas.
2094  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [RFC] reporting addresses, listtransactions/gettransaction on: December 18, 2010, 09:07:12 PM
Could toaddresss be destination instead? I don't think having an object for toaddress is ugly- fine by me. It's just nit-picking. A lot less worse than the inconsistent naming scheme used.... (grumbles back to basement).

Code:
"toaddress" : { "address" : amount }
"address" "address" is redundant.
Code:
"destination" : { "address" : amount }

Now my code will read:
transaction["destination"]["address"]
Which reads exactly like the English:
transaction destination address

Clear, simple and logical.

However is category really that necessary? Amount is already + or -. Or is move also in there too?

BTW I don't see any addresses in that output you pasted.
2095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin across the world on: December 18, 2010, 08:29:59 PM
That's perfect.
2096  Economy / Marketplace / Re: EU network of BTC exchangers on: December 18, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
Shocked sorry someone just snapped them up.

I'll be getting more though soon, so PM me and I'll have your name to keep you posted.

cya
2097  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: difficulty over time data? on: December 18, 2010, 07:52:39 PM
what's the correlation between that graph and the equation you worked out? not sure how to do it for quadratic curves..
2098  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin across the world on: December 18, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
MTux, make the dots bigger. I want to post this on a forum but you can hardly notice some points.
2099  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin across the world on: December 18, 2010, 06:45:20 PM
WOWOWOWOWOWO!!! Grin

We have nodes in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Nigeria and China! Who would've guessed!
2100  Economy / Marketplace / Re: EU network of BTC exchangers on: December 18, 2010, 05:15:22 PM
Do you wish to buy 1800 BTC for £322 by means of bank deposit?

Edit: don't Rep. Ireland use €? I think transferring between us won't be free...
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