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481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][MAX] MaxCoin on: January 30, 2014, 04:21:02 PM
Let's get something straight here... climate change is not being sensationalised by RT, it is the inevitable consequence of raping the planet's resources and tipping the natural balance by over consumption, mass global de-forestation and burning all the fossil fuel that has laid untouched for millions of years beneath the earth's surface... these broadcasts by RT are concientious and valid early warnings... not sure how any intelligent person on this planet can put 'climate change' and 'scam' in the same sentence.
Let's get something straight here...

Global Warming is a junk science scam designed to separate YOU from your MONEY and FREEDOM. They even had to change the catch phrase from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" as the public caught on to their scam. Plus, Algore owns a carbon trading company, that's all you need to know that it's a scam for certain.

Not sure how any intelligent person on this planet couldn't see that.

Sorry but this is BS argument. So what if Gore owns carbon tax company. We own cryptocurrency because we believe in it.

Thing is polar caps are melting, Australia experienced record heat last year. These are all facts. It's also a fact that carbon emissions cause warming and there aren't enough trees to counter this effect as people are kinda` big on cutting down trees also.

You are the brainwashed one because no nation wants to respect the Kyoto agreements and they've come up with a BS carbon tax, which is statist crap. Of course the oil company lobby and total moronic cunts like Alex Jones from Texas mother state of oil and JR Ewing would say global warming is BS because they have vested interest in saying that.

Exxon Mobile can buy our asses 10 times over and own all media 100 times over. Just watch the "Who killed the electric car documentary" of first attempts to create an electric car back in the 90s. Did you know oil companies still get subsidies from US government? Their lobby is strong and powerful.

Speaking of Al Gore... Did you know he's a fan of Bitcoin btw?

All things attributed to "climate change" are the things that have cyclically occurred on the planet for millennia my friend. Its natural not man made.

Yes there were cyclic changes but this doesn't mean humans don't have huge impact on environment. These statements don't exclude each other.

Just because some woman likes to fuck, doesn't mean she can't get raped for example. Get it?

oh i get it. even with such tart analogy.

You are naive to think that humans are able to overcome nature's self regulating abilities. Studies that achieve this conclusion are immediately suppressed. But are available.

that being said, anybody who says "the debate over climate change is OVER, it is now a FACT" (cough obama cough) is trying to censure discussions and has some way of benefiting from doing so.

climate-gate etc etc
482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 30, 2014, 04:12:05 PM
ok ill bite, can someone explain just what exactly all this "turing-complete" compatible IS and how it works?  Explain it to the level of someone with a BS in IT and who has worked professionally in IT for 20 years as a network tech

sure:

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483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][MAX] MaxCoin on: January 30, 2014, 04:04:24 PM
Let's get something straight here... climate change is not being sensationalised by RT, it is the inevitable consequence of raping the planet's resources and tipping the natural balance by over consumption, mass global de-forestation and burning all the fossil fuel that has laid untouched for millions of years beneath the earth's surface... these broadcasts by RT are concientious and valid early warnings... not sure how any intelligent person on this planet can put 'climate change' and 'scam' in the same sentence.
Let's get something straight here...

Global Warming is a junk science scam designed to separate YOU from your MONEY and FREEDOM. They even had to change the catch phrase from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" as the public caught on to their scam. Plus, Algore owns a carbon trading company, that's all you need to know that it's a scam for certain.

Not sure how any intelligent person on this planet couldn't see that.

Sorry but this is BS argument. So what if Gore owns carbon tax company. We own cryptocurrency because we believe in it.

Thing is polar caps are melting, Australia experienced record heat last year. These are all facts. It's also a fact that carbon emissions cause warming and there aren't enough trees to counter this effect as people are kinda` big on cutting down trees also.

You are the brainwashed one because no nation wants to respect the Kyoto agreements and they've come up with a BS carbon tax, which is statist crap. Of course the oil company lobby and total moronic cunts like Alex Jones from Texas mother state of oil and JR Ewing would say global warming is BS because they have vested interest in saying that.

Exxon Mobile can buy our asses 10 times over and own all media 100 times over. Just watch the "Who killed the electric car documentary" of first attempts to create an electric car back in the 90s. Did you know oil companies still get subsidies from US government? Their lobby is strong and powerful.

Speaking of Al Gore... Did you know he's a fan of Bitcoin btw?

All things attributed to "climate change" are the things that have cyclically occurred on the planet for millennia my friend. Its natural not man made.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 29, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
Awesome! Really good news.

Now if we can just get a dev in here answering some of the questions posted..

Also, I'm really looking forward to seeing vitalik's presentation video. I wonder when it will be up. I'm surprised it isn't already, tbh. I would have figured someone with a smartphone would have uploaded to youtube.

Vitaly has been posting on reddit
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 29, 2014, 07:15:03 PM
Hey gutshot5820, looking forward to your usual informed, unbiased, factual, and neutral response to the developments... Roll Eyes
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 28, 2014, 02:45:27 PM
I don't know how you can NOT understand "up to 30,000 bitcoin" and "50% pre-mine" its staring right at everyone's face.  We can all do the math and surmise the repercussions from this deal.  You can't sweep it under the rug or divert our attention from it with tech talk.  100 questions wont answer that one.  If you can't figure out what everyone's main concern/disgust is and you have to gather a list of questions to ferret it out....I don't know how to respond to that.

50% of what? The amount of Ether issued after the IPO? The first year including mining? Year 5? You're flat our wrong in all cases. Stop making up numbers when you clearly don't know what you're talking about and try to reference some facts.

+1 for some sanity

Sanity...you are obviously a shill, you are on every thread all day long attacking people who have questions.  These are the only type of responses you give to everyone.  Just insults, Every one of your posts.

hahahaha. lol. no

and your not asking questions, your are making statements with exaggerated claims you tool.

eh...whatever, you are starting to bore me, you are like a broken record.  No new information or reason why Ethereum is such a good buy for investors.  Just attacking and insulting strangers.  I hope they are paying you well for your services.

yes they are paying me with klondike coins.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 28, 2014, 02:26:51 PM
I don't know how you can NOT understand "up to 30,000 bitcoin" and "50% pre-mine" its staring right at everyone's face.  We can all do the math and surmise the repercussions from this deal.  You can't sweep it under the rug or divert our attention from it with tech talk.  100 questions wont answer that one.  If you can't figure out what everyone's main concern/disgust is and you have to gather a list of questions to ferret it out....I don't know how to respond to that.

50% of what? The amount of Ether issued after the IPO? The first year including mining? Year 5? You're flat our wrong in all cases. Stop making up numbers when you clearly don't know what you're talking about and try to reference some facts.

+1 for some sanity

Sanity...you are obviously a shill, you are on every thread all day long attacking people who have questions.  These are the only type of responses you give to everyone.  Just insults, Every one of your posts.

hahahaha. lol. no

and your not asking questions, your are making statements with exaggerated claims you tool.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 28, 2014, 02:04:53 PM
I don't know how you can NOT understand "up to 30,000 bitcoin" and "50% pre-mine" its staring right at everyone's face.  We can all do the math and surmise the repercussions from this deal.  You can't sweep it under the rug or divert our attention from it with tech talk.  100 questions wont answer that one.  If you can't figure out what everyone's main concern/disgust is and you have to gather a list of questions to ferret it out....I don't know how to respond to that.

50% of what? The amount of Ether issued after the IPO? The first year including mining? Year 5? You're flat our wrong in all cases. Stop making up numbers when you clearly don't know what you're talking about and try to reference some facts.

+1 for some sanity
489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
I'm in shock, Bitstamp looks for me the USA exchange, if it goes down the btc will also go down, we just saw it in the market, but now the price will fall to 850 -800 in gox.  So mad
lol. relax, bitcoin is bigger than 1 man/exchange
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 09:33:40 PM
This will be a revolution.

this is not a revolution, this is just bullshit. Propaganda has made you believe this is something special.


Ethereum may have decent tech backings. But the philosophy behind distribution and IPO fund raising is far below NXT. They basically want to give you sand for your gold. NXT asked for 21BTC to cover developments. Fine, totally fair IPO really. ETH is asking 30,000BTC!

Give them your BTC, support these devs and their counterparts with millions of dollars for a shitty coin.

Not only that, as soon as the IPO investments are distributed it immediately begins to decrease in value. From the first minute ETH launches, you are already losing your profit.


The only way this could possibly be any good is enough people supported this shit with a massive campaign and community. From what i've seen, 80% of this thread is a negative vibe towards eth. And not 1 comment from their PR? IPO is this week... pathetic.


Wake up man, this is almost as bad as a scam no matter how flashy their graphics or website is.
You can't sugar coat shit to make it taste better.



If you don't like NXT, then i suggest taking a look at eMunie. Fundamentally the same IPO, but a none whorish distribution. Those dudes have been working their asses off for 6-12months with maximum transparency, a beta client and solid features that will be launched on day 1. eMunie will work hard to make you a profit on your investment, not work hard to degrade it. http://emunie.com/




-1*1000 in my opinion. But hey, we are lucky enough to be involved in the next big industry a la internet circa 1995. do your own diligence folks
491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 06:29:18 PM
This will not effect bitcoin in the long term.
"Truly innovative business models don't need to resort to old-fashioned law-breaking, and when Bitcoins, like any traditional currency, are laundered and used to fuel criminal activity, law enforcement has no choice but to act."

Personal opinions on the war on drugs aside, he left himself open for this. Allegedly he knowingly facilitated transactions in an effort to launder money, regardless of the currency. During court the evidence will show whether this is a true allegation or just a smear campaign.

There is no surprise that the US government would aim to arrest those who helped facilitate the silk road, none.

As far as the double standard with banking goes, it IS bullshit, but bears no weight on this specific case. I'm sure HSBC spent a lot of time, money and effort to cover their ass, and Shrem will probably cooperate and facilitate a further investigation and get out with hefty fines, a very brief all expensive paid vacation to upstate new york, and a smeared reputation.

But the bright side, if the government holds a decent amount of bitcoin, will they not protect their investment? Maybe that's just the optimist in me.

+1


on a side note, Antonopoulos will be discussing this and BTC in general on joe rogan today, 3 pm pacific:
http://www.ustream.tv/joerogan
492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 06:25:57 PM
So much for Bitcoin as money loundering tool. We are talking about a million which is almost nothing and you still get traced.

the complaint filed referenced 1mill+

Still less than what cartels or other big criminal organizations needs to launder every hour.

a mill+ ranges from 1mil to 1000000000000~ mill
493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 06:12:23 PM
So much for Bitcoin as money loundering tool. We are talking about a million which is almost nothing and you still get traced.

the complaint filed referenced 1mill+
494  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 06:03:11 PM
Why would the Winklevosses back a guy like Charlie Shrem?   A simple google search brings up articles that are very questionable and certainly disqualify him from ever being taken seriously as the leader of any business.   Love the one that states "I will never hire someone I have not gotten drunk or stoned with".  A little background check before writing a venture capital check?

yea, that is a weird one...
495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 05:56:54 PM
This news is actually good.

IT seems this is just an extension of the SR investigation. And we all agree that SR was  detrimental to btc at this stage. This has nothing to do with the actual btc platform. In fact, in the statement released, there is more evidence that bitcoin as an entity will be left alone. :

"Truly innovative business models don't need to resort to old-fashioned law-breaking, and when Bitcoins, like any traditional currency, are laundered and used to fuel criminal activity, law enforcement has no choice but to act."

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ceo-of-winklevoss-backed-bitcoin-company-arrested-2014-01-27?link=MW_latest_news

all in all, its a fascinating development, but in a blazay kind of way.
496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 04:33:57 PM
In for one  Grin

Theres been about 9 posters similar to this guy (newbie saying they are "in Grin") on this thread. This kind of marketing is not necessary. Lets have a more technical discussion please

This is the classic pump strategy...

relax. its just a mere irritant. dont go off the deep end and call it a p/d, all things considered its clearly not.
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 04:27:51 PM
In for one  Grin

Theres been about 9 posters similar to this guy (newbie saying they are "in Grin") on this thread. This kind of marketing is not necessary. Lets have a more technical discussion please
498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 01:56:58 PM
What about the costs founders estimate to have after the launch?

You know, the good old spreadsheet...

Not yet disclosed to the public AFAIK We should hopefully know more now that the Miami conference is over.

"Kinda" important if you want to know what they're up to.

It is important. And thats why we will look at it and have more concrete facts to analyse this on afterwards. Thats why all the fearmongering is so silly, its not based on anything. In fairness to those guys its not like they just dropped by and said "send me 30000btc". They gave an overview and said more info will be on the way.

It's not just important. It's essential.


Who could consider investing without it? Is this kindergarten?

The fact there are no numbers is alarming. Even if there are none right now, it should be mentioned on the front-first page as to when they're going to be available.

Transparency! BEFORE the IPO.

Whats your problem? they clearly said when the prospectus will be out. and it was on the front page. kindergarten is impatience, and thats what most are showing. What, do you have to make a decision on this in the next 2 minutes? bookmark this and wait for updates.
499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 01:46:20 PM


+1. 9 million questions asked, 0 answered. Speculations running wild.

They were at the conference in miami over the weekend.
500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
What about the costs founders estimate to have after the launch?

You know, the good old spreadsheet...

Not yet disclosed to the public AFAIK We should hopefully know more now that the Miami conference is over.

"Kinda" important if you want to know what they're up to.

It is important. And thats why we will look at it and have more concrete facts to analyse this on afterwards. Thats why all the fearmongering is so silly, its not based on anything. In fairness to those guys its not like they just dropped by and said "send me 30000btc". They gave an overview and said more info will be on the way.
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