I definitely do not want okcoin, or any company not based in the US to take over.
Lets not get our recovered btc stolen twice.
The US does not steal your funds, they freeze your accounts and spy you through the NSA! I hope the recovered MtGox is not in US, more like europe or asia |
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Here's a short summary of what I think of the different parties (from the google hangout):
OkCoin
You can get your percent of bitcoins on the first day of trading, the remaining dept is company share (total 49.9%)
OkCoin has already an BTC exchange and they now how to deal with DDoS and security issues and how to handle wallets and customers.
OkCoin got experience and knowledge
Savegox
You'll get your 16.5% percent in bitcoins and after there will be some kind of equity swap.
Savegox has some childactors and insiderpeople from Gox. There are some experts who worked on wallstreet (like this name means something) where they brang coffee to the broakers and now they say they worked for wallstreet-onlinetrading-whatever.
Savegox claims to have 70% of the custemer funds on theyr side (WTF!)
Savegox has money and famous people
Anarchystar (Mtgoxrecovery?)
He has no plan, just criticizes everyone and blames them for doing something in very bad english and no personal presence. (why does he even get so much publicity?!?)
Anarchystar has a loud voice
First i was for Savegox, but i changed my mind to OkCoin!
you can change your vote as much as you want.
what is your opinoin on the different plans?
greetings from switzerland
cloon
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@ John There's a statement i really'd like to have confirmed: It only compensates people from US / Canada.
The majority of the MtGox customers were foreigners (including me).
These foreign customers are not included in this Class Action
is this true? I live in Switzerland and you will just keep my money cause i'm not from US/Canada? I really apreciate the efforts you do, but there are so many informations, that make you less and less trustworthy. |
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I would not make newbies wait 6 minutes between posts either because when you're new is when you have the most questions.
Newbies ask a ton of questions, though. They also spam "thanks" posts a lot to have a higher post cost even though Activity is a better barometer of use. A good deal of information can be gleaned from just doing tons and tons of reading. I understand a lot of what you are saying, however, it does seem like a lot of users will post things like "Well, we all know BFL will never ship" without many users understanding why. There's a long history of activity, though, and one thing that really helped me was finding a few of the older members and just going through their post history. It's also interesting to actually read the general "Bitcoin Discussion" forum in reverse, starting from the first posts in 2010. You can do that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=1.22840I'm not sure there's a perfect way to learn Bitcoin, but a lot of the newbies also don't seem to have a good grasp on the stuff listed in the FAQ on Bitcoin Myths: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MythsA lot of stuff is stickied for a reason, too. Doesn't seem to matter much, though. Well the Activity barometer could be better... for example i'm a very active Forum reader, not a writer. so if I spend much time reading for example the speculaton forum, the activity should go up, so if i write somethng, the reader should see, that i've spent much time in this forum since 2011. now it's 18 days, 3 hours and 33 minutes. (if i had written every hour just one or two stupid comments, i'd be an hero member already...) so IMO it makes more sense to make a combination of time online and posts (and somehow differentiate between subforums) |
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here's a very bearish count:  |
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I call the bottom between 25 and 30
But many ppl are expectibg this, so the bottom wil more likely be around 35
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I'm a noob
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hey chartbudddy why dont you make your graphic on an internetpage, automatically updated with adjustable parameters? so everyone could look the history of your 'valley' and bring it on individual form like: timerange='lenghtofvalley' and bid-askwith='widthofvalley') |
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he should make the graph for longer terms, the "valley" should be 4 times longer
most of his graphs have no useful information
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my version is this one: the bottom line is not a straight line it's a curve so now i see the bottom at 22 USD it worked really well for me at the last touch of the line ;-)  |
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i think they got many bad replies on these articles from a few days ago, so they made a better one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176530.0but i agree that swiss banks and swiss banking policy are forced to change their mind. i've heard that they're waching bitcoin and are running some tests to include it into new financial products. |
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Given the $1 million buy wall at 90, there's no way we're going to 80 mate  But I do agree with the second half of your post. Lol, what did I say? I dont see any 1M$ BUY wall anywhere btw. Must have vanished buddy;) Thats just how it goes with walls chap, they come and go like dust in the wind. The $2.23M wall at $80 didn't budge. And I LOVE that Clark Moody now convert to USD on the wall hover there is a ~2963 BTC order at 80 USD 2963*80 USD=237'040 USD ten times lower than 2 mil... where do you see a 2 million wall? |
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The "20 Minuten" and "Blick am Abend" are Newspapers standing in boxes at most train-/tram-/busstations in switzerland free to take! Nearly everyone I know reads "20 Minuten" while commuting between home and work in the morning and "Blick am Abend" in the evening. These are the most read newspaper in switzerland! Additionally "20 Minuten" made two article on its page: 2013-04-11: http://www.20min.ch/finance/news/story/231291262013-04-12: http://www.20min.ch/finance/news/story/22402356They didn't allow comments what is quite unusual... Looks like they want to form an (IMO not positive) opinion of bitcoin in switzerland. At least there is much Information about Bitcoin and what you can do with it. 20 Minuten:  Blick am Abend:  On NZZ: http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/digital/bitcoin-mt-gox-1.18062914 |
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here you have a quite accurate bottom line: as you see its not linear in log scale, what means it's not exponential, so the line flattens more and more. now it is around 18$ next major correction will likely touch this line again.  you're kidding, I hope? a trendline that flattens... If it's a log on a log chart it's a line on a linear chart. wow!!! we have a math genious here! this blue is so fu**ing linear on linear scale...  you're kidding, I hope? a trendline that flattens...
well it'll never have a slope of zero (wether in log nor lin scale  )... I dont get your point |
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here you have a quite accurate bottom line: as you see its not linear in log scale, what means it's not exponential, so the line flattens more and more. now it is around 18$ next major correction will likely touch this line again. |
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as we know we drove the rize up til touching the upper green line of my last post. so we all feel that a correction would be healthy for the market, and I think this shost spike last night doesnt count as correction as you see in the following picture:  1.we have enought momentum, span is getting smaller. 2.the MACD wil likely go down to ~0.5 if not below. the time span of the green bars of the macd who are negative got longer last 3 times so it could this time lenghten too. 3.on the rsi we see that we will likely stay between 50 and 70 for a few days. 4.the lines on the cci are not enough tested, so i dont want to relay on it... this is the case if we make a minor correction and continue rise, but if we brake the diagonal in the momentum, the under diagonal in the macd and the line in rsi I think we'll see a major correction... the longer it goes up and makes minor corrections the more likely it is that the next correction is a major one. so i sold a few coins... where do you expect the top? |
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