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1001  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? on: September 20, 2016, 11:24:48 AM
Any stealing act for anything to anyone is still illegal wether it is online pr not.All stealing avt is considered a crime as long as you dont have permissions of the real owner

The real owner? Who decides that if it's possible for me to generate the same address? Just because I generated it after shouldn't mean it's illegal. It's not like exploiting an online wallet to steal private keys and drain the accounts.

I feel like you guys are just guessing to be honest, I want to know if it's legal or illegal to take bitcoins out of an address you just generated. Tongue
No stealing bitcoins is not illegal because they dont know who owns the bitcoins because they are untraceable and that means that you are free to will to steal other their bitcoins

Stealing bitcoins is good.  Not illegal.

All you are really doing anyway is adding some numbers to a ledger on other people's computers.   This is totally OK.  Thus stealing bitcoin is not even illegal.  It is good. 
1002  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 16, 2016, 02:11:18 PM
Blah, blah, blah

Hey Lauda, do you take drugs?
1003  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 15, 2016, 04:05:21 PM
Moron.  Unmitigated, complete moron.  

Go ahead, bury your head in the sand.  That is the normal response from morons who don't want to see anything other than their own stupid ideas on matters.
False. I'm very open to ideas, this one is just idiotic. It is you who's the ignorant fool trying to push through a catastrophic ideology.
That you simply declare my idea idiotic does nothing at all to prove that it is.  If you can't mention why it is, then it surely isn't.

Fork is not dangerous.  Fork is good.
So breaking the whole network infrastructure is good? Sure, let's all vote today and fork it in 28 days. If you can't update your custom implementations in that time-frame, you shouldn't even be a part of the ecosystem. All praise the amazing fork! Roll Eyes
Fork does not 'break the whole network infrastructure'.  This is just pure nonsense.


Fork is an opportunity for everyone to vote.  
Again, there are several proposals. The problem is that nobody sane wants them.
Sane people are not allow to say whether they want them or not because Greg Maxwell has foreclosed their ability to vote by preventing a fork based on his lack of consensus - about 6 people from Blockstream.  If sane people were allowed to vote - we would have switched to 8MB long ago

Preventing a fork is Greg Maxwell's way to assure Blockstream will soon be forcing everyone to pay 'sidechain fees'.  
This is just pure bullshit. Nobody will be forced to pay "sidechain fees".
You are quite confused.  I don't understand why you think Blockstream won't be charging their side chain access fees.  You must be a sucker to believe that nonsense.


Isn't it interesting how people would sacrifice the intrinsic blockchain values inherent to Bitcoin, just in an attempt to gain a wider user-base, i.e. bigger market capitalization, i.e. more money?
It is you that sacrifices blockchain values when you prevent the fork.  Satoshi wants the masses to choose which is the correct path.  This is essentially a fork.  Satoshi didn't say Greg Maxwell and Blockstream should decide the correct path.  You have a choice: let Greg decide what changes we need, or allow the fork.  The fork is how we vote.  A fork is a proposal of two choices (or more) and people get to join whichever they prefer.  Greg Maxwell says no fork, I'll decide what is right and correct.  What kind of a sheep are you that you decide to let Blockstream dictate all the changes?

1004  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 15, 2016, 07:57:19 AM
It seems that it may be the right time to ignore this user before someone starts accepting some of this obviously misleading and false information.

Go ahead, bury your head in the sand.  That is the normal response from morons who don't want to see anything other than their own stupid ideas on matters.

Fork is not dangerous.  Fork is good.

Fork is an opportunity for everyone to vote.  

Preventing a fork is Greg Maxwell's way to assure Blockstream will soon be forcing everyone to pay 'sidechain fees'.  Preventing a fork assures that Greg Maxwell can continue making all decisions as he likes without regard for the opinions of others.
1005  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 15, 2016, 06:01:57 AM
Core's conservative view on hard forks is what has made Bitcoin survive for 7+ years. Look at the ETH/ETC disaster. We must not hard fork unless we have like 99% of support.

How could we ever know that we have 99% support behind a fork? There's no way to measure it. No amount of node voting, coin voting or miner voting can establish that. More to the point, if we are talking about processing power, hash rate of ETH:ETC was 99:1 at one point. Still, the network split. People really underestimate the risks. There is literally no way to ever know how a hard fork will resolve. It's impossible to know.
To be clear, by holding back the fork, Core is preventing the vote.  If we fork, then the true voting can occur. 

Not forking - is the problem. 

In Satoshi's view, a fork is very readily available everyday.  Anyone can fork and forking is good.  Now, the fork action is prevented because of collusion of miners and Core.  With no fork, no consensus. 

So you get what we have right here.  I don't like it any more than you do.  But, that's the way Maxwell wants it, so he gets it. 

Hard forks are necessary and good and they operate to permit everyone to vote on a best system.  Avoiding forks destroys Bitcoin.   

Fork the son-of-a-bitch. 

The only way Maxwell can keep control despite the very large number of people that want large blocks is by preventing the fork by spreading forking FUD and convincing the miners to stay.  He was successful.  Now, we have a system where Maxwell rules - not consensus rules.  It's not Bitcoin any longer.  It's MaxwellCoin
1006  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 14, 2016, 03:19:45 PM
Remember ETH hard fork? The community and it's price after hard fork?
Maybe better learn from past experience and wait a bit longer.

Who cares about the price?  Why is it an objective to 'get the price up'?  Very stupid.  Let's get the functionality up.  

Let's fork it two times - or three times.  Everyone will have the same tokens on each chain to start with.  Then, one chain will prove to be more reliable and higher performing that the others.  Then Greg Maxwell can go take his Blockstream shitchain with Lightning Liquid side crap to hell where it belongs.  Blockstream wants to own Bitcoin.  I say fork it and let them have their silly side chain project.  The 'other' chain with 8MB will take off and on chain scaling will live forever after.

Only Blockstream gets hurt by a fork.  Fork it!
1007  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 14, 2016, 02:47:58 PM
Rawdog... you're right.
I am always right.  I thought I made a mistake once, but it turned out to be correct.  
1008  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who controls the Bitcoins? on: September 14, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
Who controls the Bitcoins?  Greg Maxwell.  Everyone knows that.
1009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already. on: September 14, 2016, 01:43:14 PM
Hard forks are good.  Stop crying.  They allow two discrete paths to flourish and see which works best.  Too freaking bad if some of your juice gets stuck on the 'bad' chain.  On fork day, you've got equal action on both chains.  Make good decisions thereafter.  No harm, no foul.  

Let's do it NOW!!!!

Fork it already.
1010  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: September 12, 2016, 08:37:53 PM
Bitcoin will never be dead if people keep buying unless somebody would have enough money to buy up all of it which is impossible.
Just don't make this negative threads about bitcoin cause this brings us in a bad light and media takes advantage of that cause all they care about are clicks on their website. We need to mass adopt the bitcoin more and then people realise how big it is.
Threads like these are not rare. Bad speculation threads are highly common here, and everywhere. Bitcoin has died so many times already lmao.
As long as there is a demand for bitcoin, it will never die. That's the simplest way to explain to those people who are showing themselves as so stubborn to realize this fact.
Blockstream has ruined Bitcoin forever.  It is dead.  Blockstream is controlled by just about two or three people and they control just about 9 or 10 Chinese miners.  There is no decentralization.  Your fantasy about community consensus is just ridiculous at this point.  

Bitcoin is dead.  Dead and fucked.

Don't Hodl, Sodl. 
1011  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: September 11, 2016, 11:58:19 AM
Lots of times one claimed bitcoin dead...but it will never die ))

But it has been taken over by a few miners who listen to every thing Core/Blockstream tells them.  Bitcoin is no longer decentralized.  Bitcoin is dead. 

It is now Blockstream coin.  The take-over was successful.  That take-over is complete now.
1012  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Which US presidential candidate will back Bitcoin? on: September 09, 2016, 12:21:48 PM
If anyone would endorse it it would be Jill Stein or Gary Johnson.
Gary Johnson doesn't know what Aleppo is, I doubt is he can actually back anything other than is lawn mower into the garage.
1013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My Forum on: September 09, 2016, 12:19:49 PM
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This is EXACTLY what I was looking for when I came to bitcointalk!!!
1014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: September 08, 2016, 10:44:51 AM
Alright boys we're dead again, time to pack it up and leave, we've done our part here. (/s)
I've been saying this all along.
1015  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: August 12, 2016, 02:13:12 PM
Bitcoin will never die.
That is what they said about Rock and Roll - and now it is dead too.
1016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bloomberg - total fucking idiots!!! on: August 11, 2016, 11:35:19 PM
lol - cracks me up every time.  Look at Yuji Nakamura  twitter: ynakamura56; and Lulu Yilun Chen twitter: luluyilun.

How fucking dumb and wrong can you get?!  lol.  



Here is their story on Bitcoin keys/hack.  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-11/bitcoin-hack-upends-world-of-700-yields
There is so much wrong in here, clearly their boss has made no effort whatever to be sure this isn't crap.  They just write whatever they want.  

Journalism is at the lowest integrity level of all time.


"Every bitcoin is created with a private key" - No.  This is not true.  Misrepresents the nature between keys and bitcoin.  Should be keys and addresses.

"Every time bitcoin is sent, the private key changes its value"  - lol  No.  Not true.  A private key never changes its value.  

"So you cannot re-use old private keys."  lol.  No. Wrong again.  Totally wrong.

"Multi signature effectively breaks each private key into multiple pieces."  No.  Not true.  Not even close to true!

"You need a majority of the pieces to move the bitcoin"  Not true.  Totally false.  Multi sig and do a 2/10 for example.  

Journalists don't even bother trying at all to get it right.  Any competent proof reader would have told these two buffoons they are idiots.  Quit making shit up!  If you want to be a writer, you have to write stuff that is true.  Don't just make up a bunch of shit and publish it as if it were true.  These writers have no understanding whatever of bitcoin keys.  They need to go do a story on flowers.  Bloomberg should be embarrassed to put their name on such low grade garbage.
1017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Worldwide! on: August 11, 2016, 10:03:42 PM
bitcoin is banned in Russia but that does not stop anyone from using it there.
That's the same as rape, pillage and murder in Russia - its banned, but it doesn't stop anyone from doing it.  Fucking Russians are idiots, that is why it is banned there.  Anything that prevents the Russian government from crawling up your ass and ripping your guts out - is illegal there.  You must submit.  Don't worry, Russians are used to getting fucked in the ass.  They've been gettin' that all their lives. 
1018  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex owners - stolen funds and ponzi schemes on: August 09, 2016, 07:17:42 PM
The thing happened in bitfinex was clearly saying you shouldnt keep your btc in a exchange site. I wonder what site wil be the next to say the same as others that they are hacked.

next will be BTC-e and Kraken

I doubt it. Despite the skeptics, BTC-e has proven to be a stable and serious exchange since years. Regardless, one should not store Bitcoin on any exchange longer than absolutely necessary.

The alleged involvement of the Bitfinex founder in multiple Ponzi shemes, including the infamous BST raises significant questions regarding the nature of the "hack". The deletion of social media profiles is certainly not aiding in establishing trust.

It will be interesting to see the further investigative progress - if any is made. The significant amount of stolen funds should at least trigger significant attention from law enforcement.

ya.ya.yo!

You have a point.  His 'closeness' to previous scams says he did it.  I'll bet .5BTC he will be in jail in less than 6 months.  Even the US will try to get him because they have already been close to him in the past.  Good chance he won't survive this theft. 
1019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: August 09, 2016, 07:12:00 PM
Confirmed dead. Just looked again and its not breathing still.
It had a pretty good run.  Now we move on to something else.  Finally.
1020  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BFX tokens; worth anything? When? on: August 09, 2016, 06:55:12 PM
This will be fun to watch. I guess by the second this BFX token gets added in Poloniex, we'll see the classic massive flash crash just like when every coin gets listed at first.
There is also a bizzare irony to all of this.  Since BFX is issued on Omni, you can use their desktop wallet http://www.omnilayer.org/download.html#download to trade them on a decentralize exchange.  Therefore, for safety, use a decentralized exchange to trade your new BFX which is really just debt from a centralized exchange hack.
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