Latest posts of: Favelj

And now I can also thank Atomic for recognizing the issue. Thank you Atomic wallet.

Their latest email reply:
"Thank you for the heads-up.

The issue is fixed in our latest release. We are happy to hear you were able to resolve the issue with the help of the service you have sent your funds to. You can keep the compensation."

So I can also keep the conpensation for the bug and all the trouble, it has been a month since this all began.

Thank you all again, and now both threads can be closed with happy resoultion.

Quote from: Lucius on July 27, 2020, 03:04:29 PM

Quote from: Favelj on July 27, 2020, 02:38:39 PM

I am very happy to say that this issue is now resolved in full.

Great news, I'm glad you managed to get your BTC back and that you decided to be persistent, because that's the only way things like this are handled. Since you have an open thread in Scam Accusation, it would be fair to write there that the matter is resolved - so even though Atomic Wallet did not intend to compensate you in the beginning, it all ended well. I just hope that they also learned something from this.

Have posted that the issue is resolved in the scam accusation thread, thank you for reminding me.

This matter is now resolved, I got everything back and Atomic fixed the bug in their latest update.

You can find all the details here if you are interested https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263379.40

Thank you all for your help.

I am very happy to say that this issue is now resolved in full.

The site where Doge add was from were able to retrive the full amount of sent btc which they have already sent to me.
Also I have contacted Atomic supoort and told them that, and I told them if they wanted I am willing to send them 0.05 BTC which they gave me for compensation for the problem which started all of this. They, as I have seen from their latest update have fixed this big issue and now if you try to send doge via btc it says "Invalid Address" like it does for other coins.

Thank you all that were willing to give advice and help. This btc means alot to me, for some it might not be alot, for me it is a bit different. Thank you...

Will keep you guys posted and tell you about the end result of everything in the next couple of days.
Thank you for everything.

Quote from: mikeywith on July 24, 2020, 10:36:04 PM

Quote from: HCP on July 24, 2020, 09:59:07 AM

Sir!! You are a genius Grin

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I initially figured out the mystery BTC address might come from doge's PK.

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different combination like using Doge's PK to magically generate a BTC address

But obviously I am not smart enough to use the hexadecimal format of the PK, so I used the PK as is and it wasn't a valid PK for BTC so bitaddress.org used the Doge's PK as a passphrase to hash a whole new PK which obviously resulted in new different BTC address, but you nailed it.

Quote from: LoyceV on July 24, 2020, 11:22:56 AM

I'm impressed! Let me be the first to do the obvious: 1bfed039329a6b0bf00dc36f737400519f7e8d62066388ef93c614f97343b5eb (destination: mikeywith's profile addy).

Hey thanks for sending me my BTC back. Kiss

Quote from: Favelj on July 24, 2020, 01:01:16 PM

Thx for this, don't understand a thing about it, lol, but I have forwarded this to the doges add site. If they would be able to help.

They can't recover the BTC sent to that addy, only you can do it, if you don't know how ask for help, and ingore any PMs from people who tell you they will help you recover your coins, any advice given must come from a trusted person on forum, the process is rather simple you can do it yourself, just follow what HCP did, if things are still unclear, ask here and members including myself will teach you how to do it.

After getting your money back, you should return the money they sent you, at least this is what I would do if I was in your place because no matter how you look it at, it's stealing!, you should inform them and if they decide that you should keep the money they sent for the inconvenience they caused you, then keep it, if they ask you to return it, please do.

Ofcourse i would send back what they gave me, but i do not have the doge pk to even try and recover the btc.

Quote from: HCP on July 24, 2020, 09:59:07 AM

Quote from: mikeywith on July 23, 2020, 03:41:57 AM

Here is a test wallet, I sent some BTC , then sent it to a Doge address, it went through just like how OP explained, there is 0 relationship between the address Atomic wallet sends btc to and the seed, I tried all different combination like using Doge's PK to magically generate a BTC address, nothing worked, the address they send to is pretty strange

I think I have worked out what they have done... and, if you can get the private key for the DOGE address, I think the BTC could be recoverable!

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Doge Address which BTC was sent to:

Code:

D95aC8TEQrbCRWqFVhYHzSj17uB7s8yd74

...
BTC addresss Atomic (magically) sent to:

Code:

14wUesWb7SgutWeem7YjSgZQEmSpUWKPm1

If we take the DOGE address and Base58Check Decode it:

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1e2b35ec3cee8bf29b2e52c29add024953c31294eeb5dc265f

and if we take the "mystery" BTC address and do the same:

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002b35ec3cee8bf29b2e52c29add024953c31294ee28c75ad0

Essentially, Atomic seems to have simply converted the DOGE address from Base58Check to HEX, then stripped off the DOGE "address prefix" (0x1e == "D") and the "checksum bytes", added the BTC address prefix (0x00 == "1") and then recalculated and appended the checksum and then converted from HEX back to Base58Check to end up with a BTC address... Undecided

Basically, if you can get the HEX Doge PK, you can get to the BTC address:

(Using Mikeywith's example)

DOGE PK:
QRw8xX9VAw67f9db8hqbN4EAWrj3Cwu1jZHDgoR6hg2nKBaKc7gD

--> HEX PK (using "wallet details" tab on DOGE paperwallet generator (TIP: click "skip" Wink

):
6308E894B22395F94EF2E935762ADB9A4D5DCAAB672FAEDD51908FD24C6E2902

--> BTC (compressed) addy (using bitaddress.org):
14wUesWb7SgutWeem7YjSgZQEmSpUWKPm1

So, if OP can get the DOGE website to extract the DOGE private key, they'll be able to recover the full amount of BTC

Thx for this, don't understand a thing about it, lol, but I have forwarded this to the doges add site. If they would be able to help.

Quote from: Lucius on July 23, 2020, 10:16:38 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on July 23, 2020, 07:33:26 AM

It would be nice if they can share how this would work, and what exactly their wallet did to turn a Dogecoin addy into a Bitcoin addy.

It’s pretty certain that they won’t comment on the technical side of the story until they fix the issue, because who knows if that’s the only thing that needs to be fixed or is there another hole in the system that needs to be patched. It is possible that someone could take advantage of what caused this strange situation.

Quote from: Favelj on July 22, 2020, 05:19:00 PM

So they actually admitted it was their failure in the wallet, and they returned me that 50%. The other 50% which is a little over 0.05 BTC is lost, ffs that's still 400 usd... I guess I can accept that.

First they resolutely refused to compensate the damage, then they paid you $15, and now you already have 50% of what you lost. If you had not been persistent and listened to our advice, the amount you would have received back would have been exactly 0. I believe you can get back the rest of the BTC, either through a private key from Doge, or by still being persistent - it's still about your money, and what is worth $450 today for a year or two can be worth $1000 or more.

That is true yes... Well they replied to me again, so I do expect them to join in this issue here soon. And I am still waiting for the site that has the dogecoin address, they've been a big help also and very understanding.

Thank you all so much again...

Quote from: mikeywith on July 23, 2020, 03:41:57 AM

Quote from: DaveF on July 21, 2020, 11:13:53 AM

Do you have your original seed?
I am wondering if you use something like the bip39 recovery tool:https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

You might be able to find the private key for address that wound up with the funds.
Just a thought, no idea if it will work. If I had more time this AM I would test myself.

-Dave

Code:

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Doge Address which BTC was sent to:

Code:

D95aC8TEQrbCRWqFVhYHzSj17uB7s8yd74

Doge's PK

Code:

QRw8xX9VAw67f9db8hqbN4EAWrj3Cwu1jZHDgoR6hg2nKBaKc7gD

BTC addresss Atomic (magically) sent to

Code:

14wUesWb7SgutWeem7YjSgZQEmSpUWKPm1

My atomic BTC addy (m/44'/0'/0'/0/0)

Code:

15m149RV3JicusAUs4Koeg5TUboPvnroY3

BTC addy PK:

Code:

L4nrgmSr8ZDjtfbhJbX8xo2cUN7hEaPwGnTLnbHNDEfKbk5aw5CH

Thx for doing the test for yourself.

I have contacted Atomic support and provided them with the link to this issue and asking them to respond here and for them to try to explain.

Quote from: bitmover on July 22, 2020, 06:47:31 PM

Quote from: Favelj on July 22, 2020, 05:19:00 PM

I have recieved 50% of the full 0.1btc lost in this transacion from Atomic Wallet today, here is their reply:
" Thank you for your reply.

If you would have owned your DOGE keys, there would be a chance for the recovery. However, in this case, there is not.

We would like to offer you 50% compensation – 0.05 BTC. We admit, that there was a failure in the wallet that has not prevented you from making a mistake. However, we want to note that it is on the user's side to make sure you use a correct address and double-check everything before sending.

We hope this resolution is acceptable for you, please provide your BTC address."

So they actually admitted it was their failure in the wallet, and they returned me that 50%. The other 50% which is a little over 0.05 BTC is lost, ffs that's still 400 usd... I guess I can accept that. Have contacted the site on which the dogecoin wallet is, so maybe i still get the private keys to that doge wallet and recover the rest. Thank you all for your support. They do admit the failure though...

The conversion probably did something similar to what I suggested , this is why there is a chance of recovering if you have the private keys

I would accept the 0.05 btc. It was partially your fault for 2 reasons:
1 you used a shitful software
2 you were careless and sent your funds to the wrong address. If it was a fiat transaction and you mistakenly sent your money to the wrong account it would probably be lost as well.

I agree with that 100%. Anyway I am done with this now, exchanged more then 30 emails so I am just happy it is over with. Like I said in the begining I do realize my stupidity in all of this, I am just glad that they saw theirs.

Quote from: Lucius on July 22, 2020, 10:51:36 AM

Quote from: Favelj on July 22, 2020, 10:14:50 AM

This is more than obviously real amateurism in action, so they claim that Doge and BTC have similar addresses which is really nonsense, and the $15 compensation is so pathetic that I won't comment on it at all. Aren't they aware of how much damage such a negative case will cause them in the future?

What interested me from the beginning was who controls the address where BTC ended up? If Atomic Wallet has private keys from that address, then it would be fair to return the BTC or at least admit that they are not technically capable of doing so.

Excatly, the doge add is from a site I use which has multiple coins which you can deposit, I just copied the wrong one from the dropdown. I ofcourse contacted their support also if they can check the tx if they can see if that btc landed anywhere on their site, they said it did not since it was sent to a dogecoin address and nothing arrived, and also they use P2SH address on site starting with 3, and this one was converted to a Legacy addresses starting with 1. I currently know only of Atomic and Blockchain wallet that uses legacy address starting with 1. So to whom that converted btc address belongs to nobody seems to know, especialy Atmoic, they say they do not know, and I agree with you, I think they should at least admit they are not capable of doing so, of doing much more then sending 15 AWC, jeez...

So this is their latest replys.
"Thank you for reaching out.

We appreciate how you must feel about this case. However, this situation not in any way implies compensation. Many other coins have similar addresses formats such as VET and ETH, and it is almost impossible to prevent this kind of mistake apart from being attentive to the address and double-check where are you sending your funds to. The coins that have different formats will not let you mix the addresses and you will see the error when sending.

However, as you are a valuable customer, we can offer you a bonus in AWC. Please send us your AWC BNB address."

So I was, ok, so at least they are giving me somtehing back, better then nothing, I was hoping for at least 25% of what I had lost, since it was partialy my mistake for copying the doge add, but this is what I got...

" Thank you for patiently waiting.

We have made a compensation of awc-bnb to you, here's the txHash https://explorer.binance.org/tx/575700ECC7FADA8C80825BA53C1D26B830AEB51084A4B007A9665927BC79BFC1

Let us know if we can help you more."

That is 15 usd... All I can say is do not use this wallet, unsafe, support is not professional, buggy, and I could go on and on.

I would like to thank all of you for your support, had not expected this much of it.

Quote from: bitmover on July 22, 2020, 01:02:54 AM

Quote from: Favelj on July 21, 2020, 07:45:09 PM

Quote from: DaveF on July 21, 2020, 11:13:53 AM

Oh, you mean the 12 words passphrase for my atomic wallet, is that the original seed? Sorry, not an eypert myself... If that is so, yes i do. And yeah, never used the tool.

Yes, this is what I was talking about when I said that the converted private key from the address should be in your wallet.

It is nearly impossible to find your 1CcXmS6odyQSpM3i2Xbr8CK4pntPRE3yvF address unless you know how that conversion from the doge address took place.

Can you talk to the dev team and ask which derivation path/ account did they use?

Can't talk to anyone from their side rationaly, i have accepted the fact the coins are lost to me, gonna post end result now.

Quote from: DaveF on July 21, 2020, 11:13:53 AM

Oh, you mean the 12 words passphrase for my atomic wallet, is that the original seed? Sorry, not an eypert myself... If that is so, yes i do. And yeah, never used the tool.

Thank you all for the support I am getting. I am still going at it with their support i have sent them all the links to bitcointalk so they can see for themslevs waht the general opinion on this matter is.
I have also asked them to please forward this problem to their CEO and they said they have forward it tot theri supervisor and that they will let me know soon... Will keep you guys posted on this matter.

Gonna update to the proper format soon, bit busy rn, apologies.

Thx again...

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 20, 2020, 06:43:49 PM

Quote from: Favelj on July 20, 2020, 06:16:24 PM

Exactly what i am talking about, and I asked them, am asking anyone to try this if you own a Atomic wallet, send a min amount of btc to that dogecoin address, it accepts it and converts it to that btc address, have done it twice, first by mistake, second time to prove that was the issue. It is just beyond insane...

Yep...

I just tried to send a small amount to this DOGE address DGkdJh3SwPJjMMEJm7bQfxUfhvcgj8WdYT and it got converted to this 1CcXmS6odyQSpM3i2Xbr8CK4pntPRE3yvF.

See TXID: https://bitcoin.atomicwallet.io/tx/b443ea5fedcef94712dcaee3a3eaa145505d31756dcac56565fba8e5fb7c59a9

Thx for trying this and seeing for yourself how messed up this is. Really appriceate you all, did not expect all this help.