I WWil likely however assist mindfox if allowed with his anon. I prefer to leave our innovation in key.

Regardless of random fee, the same can be done by looking at the transactions and simply guessing. However, a lot is done to eliminate the ability to guess because the coins are as i said split multiple times and re transacted all over the place inside the mixer nodes. it is pretty much 99.9% and as the tech is used it only improves as usage increases. If i can gain some kind of traction from mindfox I will see if the same system can be modified and implemented here. It's really up to mindfox and community funding.

I would say if the goal is to throw off law enforcement, they will always catch up to you somehow. If it was to hide another business from seeing your transactions, or to buy a bit of porn or something and not have your wife find out.. im sure there are many other uses. Then there is no one in hell they will catch it.

From what i gather, what makes it nearly impossible to trace is that the only way to tell a transaction came from 1 wallet to another is by looking at the amount of coin sent and looking in to the block and trying to find a wallet with that exact amount received in it. however, this is countered because the coins are split multiple times, mixed, and fresh coins are used from a mixer node to the receiving wallet. As the tech is used and transactions are being made, there really is no way of telling who sent it to anyone without simply guessing. There will be no direct link from wallet to wallet. Mindfox has yet to deliver this system, but we have such a system in place on KEY currently.

If anyone finds mindfox, please tell him that i would like to speak with him.

Ahh yes, when i started forming this group, a few guys told me that i should go the PND group thing to gain interested. When i realized the implications of that route I quickly abandoned that model and went for a trading group with talented Devs, chart fegs, graphics guys, and web developers instead. That pm was in response to a conversation we had openly on btc-e where you were incessantly accusing me of being a PnD crew. Which i admit i did initially say. I even gave you an apology man. I still stand by that apology, despite your constant attacks on me.

Yes, I was rude when speaking about koolio but we have talked about it and were good. I wish i were more honest with you at the time man, but i was under so much of an attack, i wasn't ready to deal with one from koolio, and you were already attacking me anyway. Please accept my apology and move on man. Do you have any interest in CRYPT what so ever? If so, please allow me to work without the constant attacks.

It is obvious that many have a personal agenda against me here. Please, give me a chance to make things right around here.

I recall that you left out parts of the conversation to make it look like i said i was a PND'er? There is no way in hell i'd condone allowing someone to log in to your account. You'd likely say ohhhh he had someone steal my BTC or something. I already apologized to Koolio for that man. If I really need to, i will take a screen capture of my skype where the attious conversations are located. I really just want to leave this behind and get this project on the go.

I will admit that i have spoken negatively of koolio. Like all of you i got caught up in the fud storm that surrounded his name. However, once i researched things for my self I came around and realized that with power and btc comes fudders like you. It's ok man, I embrace your bullshit. But you're going to need more than that. You did man, you edited it and made it look like i said i was a PnD'er.

The screenshots where i told you were not a PnD group.. The screenshots where i said koolio was a fart sack? I've already apologized to koolio for that man. Try again!

I don't judge anyone for getting caught up in a fud storm. Everyone has money on the line and when things don't go right they need to for self preservation reasons find someone to blame. I forgive you man. Now lets march ahead here.

Hey man, thanks for the support. My enemies may want to destroy me so they can build their own reputations and profit off the effects they have on the market, but i will not give up. Attious said that he took a massive ROI because i was "so easy to read" well good. I hope you can all read that i'm not going to quit as he did. He knew damn well i wasn't going to give up.. so be it. I'm here to make progress and bring something new and unique for us to trade and have fun. I want to create a unique trading experience.

Oh, and moosa isn't doing hookers and blow. He fell ill and had to get caught up on some IRL stuff. I believe he will be returning eventually. I just want to see if we can accomplish something here.

At this point, if someone were to sell 20k there are a hundred other guys that would snap that up immediately. There are hundreds of conditional buys off the books on this coin, this is the reason it keeps springing back to 100k so rapidly i believe.

Hey Look! 2 known attious group members exchanging edited white background 0 time stamped fake pastebins  



I remember this conversation however, it came out that Josh Lambert was in a side group that attious created when he began trying to create dissent in my group. I have spoken to Josh since and we're on good terms, he was caught up in the fud storm and has since apologized for his speculation. Ninja Trader still trades with us, we enjoy his alt coin advice that is readily available to all of you on twitter.

What occurred was that we were profit taking at key intervals where natural swings were to take place, after each large rise in the coin, typically a swing occurs that is easy to play and accumulate on. However, each time we tried to run this strategy someone in the group rushed to buy the dip before we were done selling. Call it manipulation, call it what you will, we call it trading.

Oh, and while were here exchanging copy pastes:


Attious being caught with an anti prom side group:

Attious removal from the group:

[2014-06-19, 11:33:23 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Hey man, what happened?
[2014-06-19, 11:33:26 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Why are you removed?
[2014-06-19, 11:33:36 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Moosa isn’t on
[2014-06-19, 11:33:39 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: so i have no info on that?
[2014-06-19, 1:19:48 PM] Attious: I have no idea
[2014-06-19, 1:19:57 PM] Attious: All I was told is that Moosa would talk to you
[2014-06-19, 1:35:58 PM] Attious: Eh cats out of the bag what do I care
[2014-06-19, 1:36:09 PM] Attious: Might as well tell you, I haven't bought a single Crypt since I sold at 9k
[2014-06-19, 1:36:20 PM] Attious: I was merely playing on the groups doubts about you
[2014-06-19, 1:36:37 PM] Attious: and there are a lot of them
[2014-06-19, 1:38:23 PM] Attious: This message has been removed.
[2014-06-19, 1:38:35 PM] Attious: don't expect you to believe me anyway since I could have another account
[2014-06-19, 1:38:50 PM] Attious: Oh well, best of luck in your future prom
[2014-06-19, 2:03:23 PM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Playing on the groups doubts.. what do you mean playing. Seems you're the liar here att
[2014-06-19, 2:04:36 PM] Prometheus Lightbearer: What made you decide to do something like that?
[2014-06-19, 2:06:11 PM] Attious: I'm a devious bastard lol
[2014-06-19, 2:06:22 PM] Attious: I enjoy playing on people's doubts
[2014-06-19, 2:06:41 PM] Attious: This message has been removed.
[2014-06-19, 2:06:49 PM] Attious: If you didn't see originally
[2014-06-19, 2:08:17 PM] Attious: However, playing on people's doubts is different than causing the doubts
[2014-06-19, 2:08:47 PM] Attious: I merely was throwing gasoline on the fire, not starting the fire
[2014-06-19, 2:10:15 PM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Yea I saw that in you from day 1 actually
[2014-06-19, 2:10:40 PM] Prometheus Lightbearer: I didn't really care though. I figured you would want to play with us
[2014-06-19, 2:11:00 PM] Attious: I was basically just around for the chatroom
[2014-06-19, 2:11:12 PM] Attious: either way it's over and done with now


Conversation with attious the night he fud attacked CRYPT

[2014-06-21, 12:05:34 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Hey attious, i’d like to share something with you.
[2014-06-21, 12:05:51 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: We doxed you long ago.
[2014-06-21, 12:05:58 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: We’re about to make it public
[2014-06-21, 12:06:25 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: I’m well connected.
[2014-06-21, 12:06:42 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: So yea, you’ve now cost people a lot of money, and they are pretty much going to want that back.
[2014-06-21, 2:38:53 AM] Attious: Alright man I've been getting information from various sources, I may be a heartless bastard, but if you're going to have some random guy hurt because of me
[2014-06-21, 2:38:58 AM] Attious: That's something that bothers me (he was just try to cover his ass, the group sat and watched while he went in to a panic, modifying facebook and burning just about everything that was public related to his email that we were given)
[2014-06-21, 2:39:02 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Hi John
[2014-06-21, 2:39:19 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: No one is going to get hurt man
[2014-06-21, 2:39:21 AM] Attious: Yeah I know you think I'm john luisi
[2014-06-21, 2:39:28 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Luvisi
[2014-06-21, 2:39:32 AM] Attious: Luvisi sorry
[2014-06-21, 2:39:38 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: No one is going to get hurt man
[2014-06-21, 2:39:39 AM] Attious: Money is one thing
[2014-06-21, 2:39:46 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: we just have our guys tracking you to find out who you are
[2014-06-21, 2:39:52 AM] Attious: That's fine
[2014-06-21, 2:40:01 AM] Attious: but make sure you know before you go and kill some random guy because of me
[2014-06-21, 2:40:02 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: We wanted to regain contact
[2014-06-21, 2:40:10 AM] Attious: Like I said I can be a heartless bastard
[2014-06-21, 2:40:12 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: When the hell did i say i was going to kill someone
[2014-06-21, 2:40:19 AM] Attious: but having people hurt because of me is another thing entirely
[2014-06-21, 2:40:21 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: not my intentions what so ever
[2014-06-21, 2:40:24 AM] Attious: hurt/kill whatever
[2014-06-21, 2:40:35 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: You hurt a lot of people
[2014-06-21, 2:40:35 AM] Attious: if you go after them legally then I have no quarrels because thats not me, and lol
[2014-06-21, 2:40:39 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: where is this remorse coming from?
[2014-06-21, 2:40:49 AM] Attious: So what are you going to do to the guy
[2014-06-21, 2:40:54 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: you cost some people thousands of dollars
[2014-06-21, 2:41:00 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: even exchange admins are looking in to it man
[2014-06-21, 2:41:11 AM] Attious: Great they can look all they want
[2014-06-21, 2:41:17 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: What in the hell possessed you to do something like that
[2014-06-21, 2:41:19 AM] Attious: just answer my question
[2014-06-21, 2:41:35 AM] Attious: Are you going after him legally, or with willful intent
[2014-06-21, 2:41:41 AM] Attious: because if it's legally we have nothing to discus
[2014-06-21, 2:42:16 AM] Attious: well which is it?
[2014-06-21, 2:42:30 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: Were not going after anyone with any mal intent man. We just want to get to the bottom of this.
[2014-06-21, 2:42:34 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: We want this settled
[2014-06-21, 2:42:40 AM] Attious: Good, as long as no one gets hurt
[2014-06-21, 2:42:46 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: I will not hurt yoiu
[2014-06-21, 2:42:48 AM] Attious: I have no issues, or buisness with you
[2014-06-21, 2:42:48 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: you*
[2014-06-21, 2:42:55 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: other people are pretty pissed off though
[2014-06-21, 2:42:56 AM] Attious: Best of luck in your future
[2014-06-21, 2:43:00 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: you might want to go handle that
[2014-06-21, 2:43:04 AM] Prometheus Lightbearer: people are bidding on your identity
[2014-06-21, 2:43:19 AM] Attious: Well then it's on you
[2014-06-21, 2:43:28 AM] Attious: decide what you want to do to whoever you think I am
[2014-06-21, 2:43:32 AM] Attious: So long prom
[2014-06-21, 2:43:41 AM] Attious: Don't be too upset
[2014-06-21, 2:43:46 AM] Attious: We all lose time to time

Attious motive from day 1 after being doxed changed to trying to conceal it, however i have many witnesses that watch the info we had doxed be modifed and no longer crypto related within 30 minutes of me telling him i had it.

I have another conversation with his friend John Galt, I will not be putting that out there unless it is provoked. During that conversation i pointed out that while he keeps denying it's him, were watching details dissapear as we speak thus confirming that we got the right guy. I mean who else is using his email, is from illinois as he stated multiple times that he was, and suddenly abandons any talk of crypto on their facebook 30 minutes after exposure.

His Dox were not exposed until it seems like someone else actually found the hole that lead us to it. As much as attious likes to believe he's so sly and careful (flushing his google accounts that had ratings of coin checkers and various crypto apps, flushing his facebook and deleting all his posts related to crypto) he gave out his email address that linked to his FB long ago. There was no illegal action taken to find him. When his dox was finally made public, he attacked again in an effort to try to conceal the dox and make that man seem innocent of what he has done. The conversation above is also the conversation that he edited and paste binned to claim i "ordered him" which is absolute bull shit. He did this for his own profit and greed.. as seen in other screen shots.

Now Attious, take you and your cronies elsewhere so I can work toward getting mindfox to allow me to take over as lead on this project and at a MINIMUM deliver a working anon to be used WHILE WE WAIT for mindfox. I really want this to go away so we can stop focusing on the past and move forward with the future here. I have contacted mindfox and I will work to see if i can at minimum assist him with his current project.

Attious enjoys playing on all of your doubts!

Good Morning guys had to take a quick sleep before resuming progress.

Moosa has been afk for weeks man. He's got caught up with some IRL stuff i guess. I will see what i can do to get a bit more control over this project.

I have no control over the development here man. Appoint me and i'll get it done.

web site is sexy. Gave me a lamboner for sure. lol. Stay tuned guys, were dedicated to bring you quality here. I hope you will all sign up on our forum and hang out with us? Fudders are welcome as well

Oh Jesus, pardon me man. I have been fighting fud trolls for a while now and i've grown used to it i suppose. Our team worked pretty hard at preparing a video to at least give you guys something while we wait for mindfox. I swear to you all.. for what my reputation and words are worth. I have not abandoned crypt. Mindfox has stated that Moosa is his employer.. My power here is limited. I will continue to back the coin financially by funding media projects. If i do happen to gain direct control of the project, I will work with my sources to implement a new technology for you guys. But until the project is turned over to me, my hands are tied. KEY is my project, and you can see that we are meeting our deadlines.

Sorry for being snippy with you man. I'm just accustomed to being shit on lately.

What is this now? Apparently you know where my buys are? What exactly are you getting at?

That piece of shit knew he could fud me and i wouldnt walk away. Oh well, i'm over it and moving on. As should we. Lets get back to trading and let life take care of him.