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I hope all our moneys are safe.. and this doesnt turns out to be a scam
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BTC is going to the moon long term. Don't worry about the relatively minor short term price fluctations. Just get as many as you can and don't cash any out until at least 10K, even if it takes a year. No one here has patience it seems. It will happen.
You seemed very reasonable and forward looking back then. What happened to you in the meanwhile if I may ask? Only one thing from my side: why do you keep on talking about +100$ fees? Why do you still keep on thinking them in USD? I think you don't need to look at them in USD but in satoshis: that changes the perspective on the matter. As for the rest, I mean, peace man. Have some Carolina with us  What happened was the bloody blocksize debate turned me half-crazy. You're probably right, I need to sit back and have a beer. Since I am one of those speculators, I'm still benefiting from the rise of Bitcoin. I just wanted to see BTC to change the world. Maybe it still can. But for everyday commerce and transactions, it will have to be another coin. Either way, Crypto is changing the world and will continue to do so. |
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Bitcoin could have been the #1 and solved all the problems. Instead, it retards itself to 6 tp/s and has been taken over by the likes of Adam "I invented Bitcoin" Back, Gregory Maxwell the Wikipedia troll and Luke "I think the Sun revolves around the Earth" junior. Literally a trio of Retards, at the end of the day they are nothing more than useful idiots who receive their paychecks directly from the Banksters that Bitcoin was invented to destroy. They will go down in history as Liars, shills and idiots who held back Crypto's potential for years and forced the rise of altcoins and bitcoin cash. Oh well. I guess it doesn't matter - We are going to win anyway.
Don't you think you are stressing the scaling debate a little too much? Biggest blocks could be a solution, but segwit should work too, and if properly developed I think is a much more elegant solution than biggest blocks. Altcash seems to me even more centralized than core, but what I really think is that there are no evil bankster behind any side, just some pression groups who want to achieve their interest. Zero trust environment, as usual, with powerful personalities both sides, but no evil jew banksters. I'm glad you buyed @20 usd, I buyed a year later @1000, mined at loss and I have made little profits, but I don't think your "i'm rich in bitcoin" argument is valid when it comes to scaling debate. I think that everyone should possibly be able to run a full node on a raspberry in afghanistan, this is very important, why you think that 8x tx/s are more important than this? And what happens when 8mb block are full? Don't you think we are going to buy our coffee with 8 mb blocks right? I'm not rich at all, but my point is that many thousands are getting into bitcoin just recently because of it's increase in popularity, they read censored forums which are intentionally manipulated and then they are engaging in obvious groupthink psychological manipulation - This is a pretty obvious tactic that has been often used by various intelligence agencies of the world. People who got into BTC earlier, IE 2011-2012 generally aren't as likely to fall for Blockstream's manipulation, censorship and misinformation tactics. And those are the ones who are now being ostracized from the community. This points to a complete rewrite of the original BTC community, it's intentions, its code, its purpose, and its future. Satoshi's Bitcoin is dead. Now it's BlockstreamCoin - A Bitcoin NOT meant to compete with FIAT, or meant to compete with banks, but rather a settlement layer for the Rich and a speculator toy to play around with on exchanges. That's Blockstream's vision. Forget about the masses. Blockstream firmly believes that FIAT is superior to Crypto (after all that's what they get paid in) --- and Bitcoin should just be a settlement layer primarily used by the already-Rich and Speculators. Christ, I can't believe it even has to be argued - it's so obvious that Blockstream are the corporate takeover of Bitcoin that it makes my eyes bleed. |
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goymoney is some form of money especially designed to cheat those who use it without knowing all its implications and consequences.
And your inversions of reality and projections here tell me that you must be a special kind of shill.
But your keeping at it now after years and a number of failed attempts at psyops for hostile takeovers is just pathetic. The same would be if you were an honest fool full of butthurt.
I'm just telling the truth, the only hostile takeover attempt was Blockstream and it was a success, indeed a major success for the Banking cartels. In the end it only took $75 million, a few useful idiot developers and a troll/shill army to, more or less, take over BTC's development and subvert it away from its original vision , removing it as a threat (for now.) You speak of decentralization and yet BTC is now more centralized than ever - No changes can be made to the Bitcoin protocol without the approval of Adam Back, Gregory Maxwell and Luke Jr, 3 people who have shown themselves to be not only incompetent but also highly manipulative and who lie constantly. This is not a good situation and BTC will not improve at the protocol level until it moves away from these incredibly toxic individuals. That does not necessarily mean it will not continue to go up in value - but that will be only because of speculators, not fundamentals. The problem is you think I'm a shill when in reality I'm just a minority voice telling what should be a very obvious truth. But Blockstream has distorted everything so much with the lies and the censorship, it's almost impossible to get through to anyone. |
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unless the miners finally grow a pair, say enough is enough and stand up to the bought out Corporate shills at Blockstream, but I'm not holding out hope for that outcome at all.
if you want your goymoney you can have your goymoney. WTF is goymoney? Are you daft? Bitcoin could have been the #1 and solved all the problems. Instead, it retards itself to 6 tp/s and has been taken over by the likes of Adam "I invented Bitcoin" Back, Gregory Maxwell the Wikipedia troll and Luke "I think the Sun revolves around the Earth" junior. Literally a trio of Retards, at the end of the day they are nothing more than useful idiots who receive their paychecks directly from the Banksters that Bitcoin was invented to destroy. They will go down in history as Liars, shills and idiots who held back Crypto's potential for years and forced the rise of altcoins and bitcoin cash. Oh well. I guess it doesn't matter - We are going to win anyway. |
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As someone who bought their first Bitcoin in 2012 for $20,
Indeed, I can't help but laugh at all the thousands of newcomers who just read r/bitcoin and suddenly think they are scaling experts. That Bitcoin should be able to run a node on every Raspberry Pi in Afghanistan. Yada yada yada. This is psychologically manipulated groupthink. Let's face it - many of the people getting into Bitcoin today are "newbies" who weren't very smart or educated in the first place. But they all like to act like they are, ESPECIALLY when it comes to their opinions on the Blocksize debate - an opinion that was only formed through reddit. Oh boy do they love repeating those opinions, and screaming down anyone who disagrees, like a bunch of drunken fratboys who think they are about to lose their virginity. Only a very small minority are capable of using logic or reason.
It's both amusing and kind of sickening to watch happen.
Anyway, now that the dust has settled and the "1mb forever" crowd has won, Legacy Bitcoin will likely never scale in any meaningful kind of way - Meaning Legacy BTC will never be anything more than a speculator's toy to get rich, a gateway to altcoins and FIAT and a settlement layer.
However, I still fully expect the combined speculator and institutional investor money to take Legacy Bitcoin to 50 - 100K and beyond. However, it will become impossible to move coin at some point on the main chain , with $100+ fees, making a very large percentage of BTC wallets unspendable. At that point, the vast majority of Crypto users and commerce will have already moved to either Bitcoin Cash, Monero or Ethereum. In the long long run, 5+ years, I fully expect either Bitcoin Cash, Monero or Ethereum to become the #1 coin with the highest market cap. It's inevitable now that Bitcoin will never scale - and let's be honest, Lightning Network will either never exist or will never deliver as promised --- which means BTC is going to be stuck where it is now from the scaling perspective, with only a few band-aids thrown on top, likely forever -- unless the miners finally grow a pair, say enough is enough and stand up to the bought out Corporate shills at Blockstream, but I'm not holding out hope for that outcome at all.
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Thus, Legacy Bitcoin has truly become a Banking Settlement Layer - with fees comparable to a bank wire, and confirmation times comparable to a bank wire. This is Bitcoin now. Enjoy it. It's what you wanted.
So go use Bitcoin Cash and fk off maybe? you beat me to it lol You people literally play into the hands of your enemies and then gloat about it, while putting down anyone who says otherwise. Well, I guess it's true. Lies, brainwashing and censorship really do work. It's truly unbelievable how many people support permanently crippling bitcoin. |
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Well would you look at that, Bitcoin is dropping while Alts are once again skyrocketing in value.
If Bitcoin can't scale and can't be used for everyday transactions, then this also diminishes its usefulness as a store of value. Bitcoin becomes primarily an instrument for rich speculators, and little else. Other coins will be used for actual commerce and day to day transactions.
Are you all happy now?
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It sounds like you must Enjoy having Blockstream's dick shoved down your throat while your paying $100+ to move your coins off an exchange.
Tell your grandma to buy Bitcoin, it's a great investment. I'm sure she will love the part where she has to calculate a priority fee to pay based on the size of her transaction.
For everything else, there's Bitcoin Cash.
What sort of idiot is in bitcoin to spend them in b/s? It's just you. Yeah, because the thousands of people who have disconnected themselves from the banks and from FIAT don't exist. Legacy Bitcoin has been taken over by corporate interests that want to prevent BTC from scaling, thus removing competition and ensuring their monopolies will continue uncontested. No one is going to want to pay $20, 30, 40, 50$+ fees to make a payment or just to move coins. Thus, Legacy Bitcoin has truly become a Banking Settlement Layer - with fees comparable to a bank wire, and confirmation times comparable to a bank wire. This is Bitcoin now. Enjoy it. It's what you wanted. |
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So now Bitcoin is stuck with 1mb forever.
The Lies and Censorship crew have won.
Meanwhile, Lightning Network is at-least "18 months" away from being deployed.
Are you guys ready for $100+ fees?
This is the "settlement layer" you wanted. Forget Satoshi's Bitcoin, now BTC is a store of value only coin. Who cares about commerce or competing with banks or actually trying to change the world, right?
Will you bigblocktards keep whining and bullshitting here for ever? Just do your shitforkcoin things and show them to the world. Ah: BTC is 1MBFOREVA It sounds like you must Enjoy paying $100+ to move your coins off an exchange. Tell your grandma to buy Bitcoin, it's a great investment. I'm sure she will love the part where she has to calculate a priority fee to pay based on the size of her transaction. For everything else, there's Bitcoin Cash. |
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Bitcoin could have saved the world, but it got taken over by the Bankers and now has Retarded itself to a max. 6 transactions per second. Visa, and Mastercard are laughing their asses off at RetardCoin while simultaneously breathing a sigh of relief that a major threat to their existence, Bitcoin, has been removed.
Now it's all up to Bitcoin Cash.
Anyone who thinks that this is a good thing have seriously deluded themselves and are fools for believing the Blockstream propaganda, lies and FUD.
Would rather seem like the market is disagreeing with your morose opinion. Speculators only care about making money, they don't care about destroying the banks or whatever. Never been known to be the Brightest bunch those speculators... As is evidenced by how many people here support Crippling Bitcoin for the foreseeable future. A Central Banker's dream come true. |
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So now Bitcoin is stuck with 1mb forever.
The Lies and Censorship crew have won.
Meanwhile, Lightning Network is at-least "18 months" away from being deployed.
Are you guys ready for $100+ fees?
This is the "settlement layer" you wanted. Forget Satoshi's Bitcoin, now BTC is a store of value only coin. Who cares about commerce or competing with banks or actually trying to change the world, right?
Because non of the other 1000 or so coins can do that. Only Bitcoin can save the world. Bitcoin could have saved the world, but it got taken over by the Bankers and now has Retarded itself to a max. 6 transactions per second. Visa, and Mastercard are laughing their asses off at RetardCoin while simultaneously breathing a sigh of relief that a major threat to their existence, Bitcoin, has been removed. Now it's all up to Bitcoin Cash. Anyone who thinks that this is a good thing have seriously deluded themselves and are fools for believing the Blockstream propaganda, lies and FUD. |
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So now Bitcoin is stuck with 1mb forever.
The Lies and Censorship crew have won.
Meanwhile, Lightning Network is at-least "18 months" away from being deployed.
Are you guys ready for $100+ fees?
This is the "settlement layer" you wanted. Forget Satoshi's Bitcoin, now BTC is a store of value only coin. Who cares about commerce or competing with banks or actually trying to change the world, right?
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The combined forces of Roger Ver, John Mcafee and Jihan Wu are far, far greater than anything the propagandized, Brainwashed sycophants over at BlockstreamCore can possibly summon. Bring on the hate, go on, keep trying to convince us why Bitcoin's adoption and growth rate should be strangled for Eternity at 1mb because "muh hard forks are dangerous" or whatever ridiculous Lie you people keep regurgitating.
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Ah yes, the classic Core defense. "It's just spam."
LOL
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Core devs openly saying you should just use fiat instead if the fee's are too high for you. Amazing. What leadership. What people. True cypherpunks, that lot. Don't worry guys, I'm sure segwit will fix all our problems soon, and these $10-20 w/d fees will go away soon..  |
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