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1  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is the only crypto you should BUY on: April 23, 2024, 09:59:10 PM
Definitely bitcoin is a far better cryto currency than all the rest others that are tied to one person or group of persons and if something were to happen to them or the company the currency fails, and other thigns like bad management or corrupt ceos can also result to lose of funds, here in bitcoin we don't have any one person or group of persons that are in control of what so ever that is happening in bitcoin and the community is not managed or tied to the founder which we don't even know his where about, bitcoin is a more valid and safe digital currency to buy than all the others.
Agree. Bitcoin is the most recommended coin, it is the best one. Bitcoin is purely decentralized, meanwhile other crypto coins are not 100% decentralized. That's why the value of other coins can be influenced by many factors, including the internal factors such as bad management, untrusted CEO, or other things. Bitcoin is not influenced by those things, that's why people more trust on Bitcoin. Also, Bitcoin isn't controlled by any person or any institution. It is purely about the demand on the market. This is one of the advantage of Bitcoin, they have no manipulation issues of internal factors.


2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: April 23, 2024, 09:47:10 PM
Chelsea is always good while plying big teams despite their poor form and inconsistency.
Chelsea fans will think that after playing a draw in the first leg against Arsenal can also get similar results since they know that Arsenal is in a pressure of winning all their matches because of the title race.
NO. Chelsea didn't always play good against big teams. If you checked the history of Chelsea matches, they are defeated several times by big teams.
1. Defeated by Liverpool in EFL Cup final
2. Defeated by Man City in FA Cup semi-final
3. Defeated by Arsenal in EPL matchday 29

Well, it is true that Arsenal sometime played inconsistently but other teams in EPL also did it. It is not easy to play consistently in the whole season. However, it is great that Arsenal is leading again the EPL standings after they defeated Chelsea with 5 goals today.

At the end, Arsenal won the match with an unexpected score line; 5-0 is very big for team like Chelsea.
If we are talking Chelsea in Roman Abramovich era, Chelsea is surely a big team. Winning against them with 5 goals will be a great achievement. But Chelsea is just an average team now. I think it is just a normal win, scoring 5 goals isn't a very amazing achievement. Chelsea defense is weak, it is not surprising to score 5 goals.

3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: April 23, 2024, 09:29:58 PM
Cristiano Ronaldo joined Al Nassr when he was almost 38 years of age but that hasn't stopped him from being a great player for the Saudi club as he's scored incredible number of goals in his first season one and half season with the club. Becoming the club's top scorer might not be achieved by Cristiano Ronaldo until he leaves the club but there's no doubt to the fact that his current goal ratio per game since he joined the club is the best in the club's history. At his current age of 39 years, Cristiano Ronaldo is still the leading scorer in the Saudi Pro League this season and is very likely to finish the season with the golden boot award if the league. Cristiano Ronaldo is simply doing his best if you ask me just that his numerous number of goals didn't help his club to get sr the top of the Saudi Pro League table which I think is more of a concern to him than personal accolades
Ronaldo was born in Feb 5, 1985. He joined Al Nassr in Jan 1, 2023. It means he was still 37 years old when he joined Al Nassr. However it is surely not a young age for a player to join a new club. Ronaldo begins his journey in Saudi league when he is an old player, even most players already retired at that age. But Ronaldo always has a big motivation and ambition to be the best player in any competition he is joining. In Saudi league, Ronaldo can be one of the most productive players, he is leading the top scorer in this season. Well, it is a brilliant achievement, it will be difficult to break by another player.

Ronaldo has not yet given Al Nassr any title, but his contribution so far deserves to be appreciated. He also cannot carry Al Nassr's burden alone. He also needs solid cooperation between each other to be able to build a successful club in the future. Hopefully, next season Al Nassr will be able to make it happen.
His contribution is very big although he doesn't give any trophy to Al Nassr. Even Ronaldo has a great contribution to build Saudi league. Ronaldo factor is one of the reasons why many star players joining Saudi league now. If Ronaldo never joined Al Nassr, I think there will be no star players to join Saudi league. It is a brave decision to make by Ronaldo. But it is the right decision for his career.


4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 23, 2024, 09:10:31 PM
In the league match, Roma lost to Bologna at home. The fact that they were defeated at home in the last match means that they have more hopes for Leverkusen.
The defeat of AS Roma in Serie A may have no influence for the match against Leverkusen in Europa league. It is because Leverkusen isn't really familiar with AS Roma. But for Bologna, they could defeat AS Roma because they know well AS Roma. So, it is a different condition, we can't compare Bologna and Leverkusen. I think AS Roma still has the same chance in the match AS Roma against Leverkusen.

Leverkusen is currently following Roma closely. I'm sure they will analyze their shortcomings in the Bologna match and force them to make similar mistakes against them. I guess they would never want such a result when De Rossi and Roma were in full form. If Bayer Leverkusen wants to win the championship, it must beat Roma comfortably in both matches.
Of course, Leverkusen will be analyzed every match of AS Roma. They also probably analyze the weakness of AS Roma in the match against Bologna. However, Leverkusen isn't Bologna, the capability of these teams are different. That's why I think there is non change in the opportunity of the win of AS Roma for the next match in Europa league.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: $25,000 to put into altcoins... on: April 22, 2024, 09:59:18 PM
We can make even more than $25,000 into an investment, but such is not that good enough when having them all on altcoins, it is more preferred that we have them diversified with bitcoin, altcoins and some other physical assets if possible, cryptocurrency is not that bad enough to avoid, but we cannot only have more confidence on making investment in some of the altcoins because they may not perform as expected, while when we diversify, we have more alternatives to making profits.
Agree. If we have a lot of money, it is better to diversify it. The priority should be in Bitcoin, altcoins are the additional assets. I also will diversify it if I have $25000 for crypto investment. I will use $15000 for Bitcoin, $5000 for Ethereum, $3000 for BNB (Binance Coin), $1000 for Solana, and $1000 for Cardano. It is okay to buy some altcoins but we mustn't avoid investing in Bitcoin. For me Bitcoin is the most secure crypto coin, it should be the priority. Meanwhile altcoins are more speculative, the fund allocation for them ideally should be lower than Bitcoin.

I just avoid to invest in meme coins and new altcoins. Even I have $25000, I only brave to use below $250 for these type of coins. I assume we have many reliable coins, why we must buy random coins or too risky coins.  Grin

6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Does trading belongs to everyone? on: April 22, 2024, 09:55:11 PM
I support on this your opinion and truly impatient people hardly make progress when it comes of trading. And to add more, impatient people always becomes hopeless since they can't endure to sure things to turns out to be the best over their lives and when their trading exercise is being culture and nurtured correctly you would see them making progress so, even though they lose their lost won't be that much compared to those who aren't patient enough.
Trading is simply not for impatient people. Trading basically isn't an easy job, it requires skills and experience. Moreover, the crypto market is very unstable, it sometimes easily changes. With this condition, the knowledge and experience will be really helpful to determine any decision to be made. If we have no knowledge, how we can be patient in this condition? So that's why almost everyone says that knowledge is the fundamental matter in trading.

In addition, we probably won't always get profits in trading. Sometimes we can get losses due to many reasons. If we are impatient people, we may quit trading just in few days or weeks. We will never be experienced traders if we have no patient in trading.

7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 21, 2024, 09:59:31 PM
Juventus dropping points against Cagliari could become a costly mistake although they can be lucky that Roma is now taking on Bologna and points will be dropped. But Roma is still two games behind and if they win the game that was suspended against Udinese and then the game against Bologna, the table could be looking very scary for Juventus. I thought they had been through already weeks ago, but didn't think that they would start dropping points nonstop. A win against Bologna would definitely be the decisive step for Roma to make the Champions League qualification possible. De Rossi is doing a pretty good job and Mourinho must be asking himself what was going on with the team under his management.
It is not very surprising to see Juventus can't get full points against Cagliari because Juventus has dropped their performance in the last few matches. It is not so different with the last 2 seasons, they always wasted the chance of collecting full points toward the end of the season. Allegri is a typical coach who can't focus in the remaining matches in second half of the season. I don't understand why Allegri always did it, I think it is because he often gets a dismissal issue when the season is almost over. Honestly, it is very annoying to see Juventus performing very inconsistently when it is in crucial time.

I don't think Juventus will be lucky. We don't know if Roma could steal points against Bologna. Bologna is a strong team and they will try all out to catch Juventus. If Bologna can beat Roma, they have a chance to overtake Juventus position in 3rd place. However, Juventus will be safe in UCL zone, they will end the season in 4th place at least.


8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 21, 2024, 09:56:17 PM
The match ended 3-2. Jude Bellingham provide the difference to compete the comeback; this has shown how good Real Madrid is both in the Laliga and the Champions League~~
Yep. Real Madrid won the match with 3 goals. They succeed to come back although Barcelona is leading in minute 69'. For me, Lucas Vazquez becomes the man who gives the difference on this match. He scored a goal in minute 73' and he contributed for 1 assist on Bellingham's goal. It is interesting that a right-back can be the man of the match in this El Clasico.

Madrid is now 11 points clear ahead of Barcelona, this win has given them more hope that they will surely win this season’s Laliga because Barcelona that is suppose to show challenge them is now behind them with little or no hope this season.
Leading with 11 points makes Real Madrid no doubt to win the La Liga title. The competition is over, Barcelona has no chance to overtake Real Madrid now. It is now only the competition for the runner-up position. It will be interesting because Barcelona and Girona only have 2 points gap. Barcelona can't underestimate Girona.

I think Barcelona need to sign more players next season if they really wants to be more competitive in the Laliga~~
Unfortunately Barcelona has no ability to spend a lot of money for signing new players. If they want to sign top players, they need to sell some of their young players. The financial problem makes Barcelona to fail signing expected players.

9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 19, 2024, 08:45:55 PM
I am quite sure that Salah will not leave Liverpool in the next few seasons because his name has become popular with Liverpool and Salah has also broken many records with Liverpool. This season, Salah also performed quite well with Liverpool and he scored many goals and was able to bring Liverpool to compete in the title race this season. Indeed, sometimes the rumors that develop are not 100 percent true because the media only fabricates news to attract readers.
Salah has been an important part of Liverpool squad. He is like the machine goal, no one can replace his role in Liverpool now. Also Salah didn't perform as well as in the previous seasons, Salah still contributed well for Liverpool. With this fact, there is no way that Liverpool want to lose him for the next season. Although they have many attackers, Salah's role is still important. So, it is just a rumor that Salah may leave Liverpool.

Liverpool will lose Jurgen Kloop next season because Kloop has officially announced that he will leave at the end of this season. Let's see who will be Liverpool coach next season. If only Xabi alonso becomes Liverpool coach, I think Liverpool will be quite strong next season.
Jurgen Klopp has announced to leave Liverpool. He already managed Liverpool for many years, he may need something new in his life. As far as I know, he won't try to manage a new team, he wants to focus on his family. Sure, it is sad but Liverpool must forget Klopp and find out a new coach. Xabi Alonso has said to stay in Leverkusen, he won't go to Liverpool. So far, I don't see a big candidate for the next coach of Liverpool.

10  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you believe in savings or investment on: April 19, 2024, 08:37:16 PM
Having money in the bank is good but having a profitable investment is much better. So, to me is more about investment rather than just saving, because saving add little or no interest on your money but investment in various sectors like example in the housing sector guarantees return on investment in the long run. So I go with investment over savings.
If your purpose is for gaining money, investment is the choice. But we don't always expect for earning money, sometimes we are trying to secure money for the future. You need to understand that investment doesn't automatically gain profits, it has the risk of losing money. When you are not lucky or do the investment in careless way, you may have a chance to lose money. Meanwhile saving the money in bank will have no the risk of losing money as in the investment. You may pay for monthly fee in bank, but our money is safe in bank.

Anyway, just try to understand what the purpose of saving. It is not to get the interest, it to secure reserved money. So, don't compare the purpose of investment and saving!

11  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: April 19, 2024, 08:27:30 PM
Jika kondisi seperti ini sama dengan sebelumnya, ane yakin harga akan perlahan-lahan naik menyesuaikan dengan kondisi demand atau permintaan yang semakin meningkat. Karena setahu ane, bitcoin ini menyesuaikan dengan prinsip dasar ekonomi, beda dengan fiat atau mata uang yang prinsip dasarnya diatur oleh lembaga dan negara, sedangkan bitcoin, prinsip dasarnya lebih kepada pure; supply dan demand, market spotnya banyak dan real sesuai dengan apa yang terjadi saat itu, supply-nya real dan demandnya sesuai dengan volume market.
Kalau kita lihat pergerakan harga BTC hari ini, sudah terlihat mulai naik perlahan. Kemaren harga turun sampe dikisaran $60k-$61k, saat ini harga ada di angka $64k. Bahkan tadi sempat naik ke $65k. Jika tidak ada bad news, saya kira akan naik lagi melewati $65k dan menuju ke $70k seperti harapan kita semua. Harusnya halving masih punya impact yang sama seperti sebelumnya, halving punya andil besar untuk mendorong harga naik secara signifikan.

Ya, pada prinsipnya harga naik atau turun itu sesuai dengan supply-demand di market. Karena Bitcoin ini terdesentralisasi, tidak ada yang mengatur harganya, maka harga akan selalu berdasarkan supply-demand. Jika circulating supplynya berkurang setengah, mau tidak mau harga akan terdongkrak naik harusnya. Semoga saja tidak ada kejutan lagi seperti perang Iran-Israel.

12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 19, 2024, 08:14:34 PM
In this match Manchester City played very well. However, unfortunately there are still many opportunities that cannot be exploited properly. So even though in this match Manchester City managed to dominate the game well. However, in that match Manchester City was only able to score one goal through De Bruyne in the 76th minute. And in that match, the Real Madrid players actually came under quite a lot of pressure from the Manchester City players. Because how could it not be, in this match Real Madrid visits Manchester City's headquarters which will definitely make the game of the Manchester City players better. But fortunately, Real Madrid was able to hold Manchester City to a 1-1 draw and ultimately had to go to a penalty shootout.
You're right, Man City actually played well, they really dominated the match. Man City have made a lot of chances to score goals but Man City only succeed scoring 1 goal. Besides Real Madrid goalkeeper performed impressive, Man City players were not lucky because there are some good chances but it always ended up with no goals. I saw De Bruyne have some great chances but he failed to convert it to be goals. It can be the unlucky factor of Man City on the match.

Modric should buy their goalkeeper a house or something hehe. His miss was a bad start to the penalty shootout but it still turned out good thanks to the brilliance of the GK.
Agree.  Grin
However, in the penalty shootout, Real Madrid players showed their winning mentality. Their mentality never dropped although Modric failed scoring the first goal. Honestly, I'm quite surprised to see Modric unable to convert it be a goal. Sure, Lunin played very impressive, he is indeed reliable even though he is not Real Madrid's main goalkeeper.

RM should be the huge favorite to win the tournament after disposing City. Bayern is also tough but I doubt they can really beat Ancelotti and his men.
I'm calling it now - RM vs PSG in the Finalas.
Yep. It seems Real Madrid vs PSG will be the ideal final. I am sure Real Madrid will secure their final ticket since in Leg 1 against Bayern Munich. And PSG looks like to be stronger than Dortmund. So, in theory, Real Madrid will face PSG in the final round. It will be a nice final if it really happens as expected.

13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 19, 2024, 07:54:35 PM
Bayern Munich has already lost a lot of things. Remember us saying that the Bundesliga title is like the default title of Bayern Munich?
I said that and somehow they have not been able to win the title this season.
Yep. Bayern Munich lost the chance to win Bundesliga title, they also lost the chance winning DFB Pokal title as well. Leverkusen has won the title of Bundesliga, they will win the title of DFB Pokal, too. Leverkusen becomes the obstacle of Bayern Munich winning domestic competitions this season. If they are eliminated by Real Madrid in UCL, they will have no hope for any title this season.

will they be able to win that title that they are actually looking for?
And I am talking about the Champions League title. imagine what might have happened if they actually had Leverkusen playing in the Champions League as well. yesterday they knocked out Arsenal, Kimmich's header was really incredible.
If Leverkusen plays in UCL and they must face one another in UCL, I think Leverkusen will eliminate Bayern Munich. Leverkusen never has a problem with Bayern Munich during this season, Leverkusen seems to be stronger in the next season. I think there will be no chance like they beat Arsenal yesterday, Leverkusen is totally a different team with a different game style.


14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 19, 2024, 07:44:11 PM
I agree with you. Real Madrid will go all out to beat Barcelona. I think this will be an important moment for them because if Madrid is able to beat Barcelona then they will be 11 points ahead of Barcelona in second place. This will further secure first place for them.
No doubt Real Madrid will try to beat Barcelona with their best. Sure, it is an important match for Real Madrid, winning the match may secure their position in the 1st place. If Real Madrid win the match, the point gap will be 11 points and it will be quite difficult to catch by Barcelona because there will be 5 remaining matches only.

The Champions League will be played on May 1. That means Madrid will have sufficient rest time after playing Barca.
Indeed. The match will be in the early of next month, there is enough time to take a rest. I think it won't be a problem to play all out against Barcelona before the match against Bayern Munich in UCL.

Yes, Madrid currently leads the standings with 78 points. Barcelona is right behind them with a difference of 8 points. Madrid has met Barcelona twice this season, and always won. Madrid will stay away and increase their chances of winning if they are able to beat their rival again in the next match.
They are leading with 8 points but it may be not secure if Barcelona can win the match. The point gap will be 5 points, Barcelona may have a chance to catch Real Madrid if Real Madrid lose again the next match. Real Madrid should avoid this possibility, they will try to win the match. So, I agree that Real Madrid chance to win the title is higher if they win the El Clasico.

15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is LTC dead? on: April 19, 2024, 04:29:47 PM
Once, Litecoin was a very famous coin and it was called "Digital Silver".
But nowadays, very few people talk about Litecoin anymore.
Is Litecoin dead in your opinion?
Litecoin is still one of the top 20 coins if you checked carefully in CoinMarketCap. It basically remains a famous coin, there is no big change in the popularity of this coin. If its position dropped, it is normal because of the competition among other top coins. I think it may raise again its position someday if there is a new innovation in this Litecoin. So, it is strange if you said it is dead already. Besides those reasons, Litecoin is also still listed in varied top exchanges in the world. It means there is still a lot of people who trade or invest in Litecoin.

By the way, the coin is still alive as long as the coin is listed in an exchange. It is dead when there is no people who trade it and it is listed no where.


16  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: April 18, 2024, 09:06:58 PM
Sebenarnya ini lagi ngempet (menahan diri untuk tidak melakukan TP secara dini)  Grin. Jika prediksinya mulus, maka ada plan untuk TP (beberapa coin) saat BTC menembus 80K, lalu menunggu momen koreksi untuk melakukan Buy the Dip. Namun kalo yang terjadi kedepannya tidak sesuai ekspetasi, ya terpaksa akan tetap melakukan Hodl  Grin
Jadi ini ada plan untuk TP kalo harga BTC bisa naik ke $80k pas halving nanti?
Ya bisa juga jual dulu kemudian beli lagi ketika ada dump pasca halving. Sangat mungkin market drop lagi ketika selesai halving karena mungkin akan lumayan banyak orang-orang yang jual BTC mereka pas momen harga naik. Apalagi kalau naiknya sampe di rate $80k.

Terus terang pergerakan market BTC sekarang agak susah untuk diprediksi dan kerap terjadi sebuah kejutan, namun kalo secara pattern masih mirip-mirip dengan Halving sebelumnya.
Ya, secara umum sepertinya masih mirip dengan patter sebelum-sebelumnya. Cuman apakah lonjakannya bisa sama dengan yang sebelumnya? Yang ini kita tidak tau sama sekali.  Grin



BTW halving tinggal 1 hari gaes. Harga BTC masih posisi ngedump. Masih jauh untuk naik ke $80k.  Grin



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17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 18, 2024, 08:54:50 PM
Manchester City will do everything they can to win the Premier League title this season because Manchester City was eliminated in the UCL this season on penalties. And if you look at the quality of players that Manchester City has this season, of course the team has a big chance of winning the Premier League again this season compared to Arsenal and Liverpool.
Indeed. Both Man City and Arsenal will focus on competing for EPL title now, they are no longer joining UCL title race. Liverpool also will do the same because they seem to be eliminated in Europa league today. So, we will see 3 top EPL teams will be focusing on the domestic title. It is going to be a very interesting competition because the point gap is rather small.

If we look at the current position on EPL table, Man City surely has a bigger chance to win the title. However, a surprise is very possible because they are leading with a narrow deference. If Man City fails to win in 1-2 next matches, Liverpool and Arsenal possibly overtake the 1st place.


18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 18, 2024, 08:45:48 PM
I think now is a good time for Salah to leave because his physical form is still very good and in a new place he can show himself at a top level. The Saudi League has progressed significantly and now it is not enough to be a big brand - you have to work hard and bring real benefits. If Salah gets there with the right timing, he will be a very respected player, if not, then maybe the story with Benzema will repeat itself.
I don't think so. Why Salah should leave Liverpool now? Salah still has a contract with Liverpool until Jun 30, 2025. He also still performed well and he has no problem with his fitness or physical. He deserves to stay in Liverpool until the end of his contract at least. I see no player in Liverpool squad has the same quality as Salah, it is very unfortunate if Liverpool should let him moving to another team.

Salah may be interested in Saudi league but I think it is too early to join Saudi league now. Salah is still in a good age for a professional footballer, he is 31 years old. I think he can maintain his best level until 34-35 years old. So, he can play in Europe for the next 3 years, he is better to stay playing in a high level of football competition.

By the way, I think Salah won't have the same story as Benzema experienced in Al Ittihad. Benzema is injury prone, Salah has no problem with his physical or fitness.

19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 18, 2024, 08:30:26 PM
Liverpool started the game with enthusiasm by scoring an early goal but here we are at the half time and the score didn't change, with Atalanta 0 - 1 Liverpool and Atalanta 3 - 1 Liverpool on aggregate. They need to rush more if they want to qualify while Atalanta needs to ruin the game to win..
Yep. Liverpool could score in minute 7' but no more goal until now. They looked like not playing very aggressively although they are applying attacking tactic. It is surely not enough to have an average attacking style, Liverpool must play with total attacking style. If they failed scoring 2 more goals, they will be eliminated in this round. Honestly, I am a bit doubtful with Liverpool now, it is almost reaching minute 70' but they only succeed scoring 1 goal.

In the other matches, Roma are comfy with the three goals advantage on aggregate. West Ham United trying to equalize Bayer Leverkusen. Marseille 0 - 0 Benfica for the moment.
Roma is leading 2 goals although one of their defenders got a red card. With 10 players, it seems Roma using a defensive tactic. Lukaku and Dybala have been changed already. They only need to defend the leading until the end of the match. By the way, Leverkusen needs to score 1 goal if they want to secure the ticket for the next round. It seems Xabi using all the key players now.

20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is age a limitation in Bitcoin on: April 18, 2024, 08:20:19 PM
Yeah, but you need traditional banking to cash out or deposit to CEX... So even though no direct age barrier exists in crypto Bitcoin, there are indirect barriers. Theoretically, you could search for P2P cash - crypto Bitcoin DEX without KYC, but it may not exist in your area.
You're right, mate. We should have bank account to withdraw or deposit fiats to exchanges. As far as I know, the minimum age for having a bank account is 18 years old. So, it is quite impossible to invest or trade in Bitcoin if we are under 18 years old. Moreover, it is quite doubtful that underage people can understand how to invest or trade in Bitcoin.

Yep. Using P2P is sometimes quite complicated and it may not be available in any place around the world. This won't be a common way for converting the profits from Bitcoin. Like it or not, we need a bank account for withdrawal and deposit our funds.

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