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1  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 30, 2022, 04:30:04 PM
Smart idea Victor. That's why I'm interested. Wish you could resolve the issue I spoke about concerning zero devaluation.

By the way, if you are a programmer, I could work with you. I'm particularly interested in guidance. I'm deep into this & have had past offers from couple of people to work with them .. unfortunately I didn't accept them due to certain reasons. It's becoming more urgent to develop something tough & useful before it's too late
Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer, I'm looking for programmers who can bring this complex project to life. If you understand how to implement this idea, you are welcome, I accept any help in cooperation. I was offered a team of programmers to implement this project, but the first question they were interested in was not how it works and what to do it for, but what my budget is. I understand that any work must be paid for and if someone paid me for my development, which I have been doing for many years, I would be able to pay the cost of the programmers' work. I also offered programmers joint participation in the development of the project, as a result of which, after its implementation, they would earn much more than their costs, but everyone is interested in income here and now.


Ofcourse, lack of funding is always part of the problem, but I'm not interesting in that.  Idea & gifted programmers should be ready first then funding will come, especially if your funder is convinced.

In regards to the funding, I could advise you to raise it from the Market. "He" is about to move price up. It's hard to convince this faithless world that price can actually be moved by him. Just believe!

If I had a sponsor, the project would already be working and you wouldn't have to persuade everyone to follow you to move the price, the project would do it for you. Your efforts to convince everyone of the correctness of your idea are in vain, since not everyone believes in God, most believe in the golden calf, and not in the mission.
2  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 30, 2022, 03:55:11 PM
Smart idea Victor. That's why I'm interested. Wish you could resolve the issue I spoke about concerning zero devaluation.

By the way, if you are a programmer, I could work with you. I'm particularly interested in guidance. I'm deep into this & have had past offers from couple of people to work with them .. unfortunately I didn't accept them due to certain reasons. It's becoming more urgent to develop something tough & useful before it's too late
Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer, I'm looking for programmers who can bring this complex project to life. If you understand how to implement this idea, you are welcome, I accept any help in cooperation. I was offered a team of programmers to implement this project, but the first question they were interested in was not how it works and what to do it for, but what my budget is. I understand that any work must be paid for and if someone paid me for my development, which I have been doing for many years, I would be able to pay the cost of the programmers' work. I also offered programmers joint participation in the development of the project, as a result of which, after its implementation, they would earn much more than their costs, but everyone is interested in income here and now.
3  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 30, 2022, 11:56:19 AM
Something we have gone in the direction of a decentralized network, although your previous question was
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What is the main problem you want to solve with this? What makes you think more problems won't be created trying to solve the problem.

Do you have examples of assets that do not or will not lose value?

Your idea is very interesting though/quote]
I'm just trying to convey to everyone the solution to this problem with this project.
39.   Now the main investment, transforming into a decentralized financial liquid asset of bond tokens, has a growth trend and under no circumstances can be frozen, reset to zero, devalued, it becomes possible to directly place any Fiat in a decentralized crypto economy through the crypto currency Ethereum. Investing and lending secured by token-bonds will become very profitable and safe. Bond tokens produced by a real financial asset replacing the turnover of ETH in deposit becomes a reliable settlement coin between counterparties.

Take a look at the chart confirming the limited issue of the bank's gold shares, there cannot be more than 10 million of them.
4  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 28, 2022, 11:17:51 AM
The OP has a solution which is looking for a problem.

In other words, he is full of crap.

You don't need a smart contract to accomplish this. Bitcoin is doing it already and it is the ultimate smart contract. It is decentralized, it can't be seized, it deflationary. Bitcoin is the ultimate decentralized world bank and you are participating whenever you use it. You just don't need anything else. Don't make this unnecessarily complicated.

At first glance, it seems logical, but if you drop deeper, it turns out that the bulk of all bitcoins are in the hands of a very narrow circle of people who manage volatility and increase their share even more with the help of manipulation. To counter this, there is currently no insurance, so banks do not lend for fear of losing their assets. In my project, this insurance is available for banks.
5  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 27, 2022, 04:59:33 AM
But what’s the point in this project if we already have several such projects lying around. What’s the difference between yours and the one that already exists. Starting from the bitcoin itself we have encountered whole new arena of co-ownership of the decentralised world bank. Every individual holding small to heavy balances in terms of bitcoin is already owning their bank and free from the centralised bank’s regulations. So apart from this any new project that comes up would be added advantage for us.
That's it! Added advantage. Maybe that's the one that we can get from his project but for us that are already contented on what older projects has to offer and we are too conscious about our security then we can just stick on them and there is no need for us to try newly created projects no matter offers they have as we didn't know that what if those new projects are not decentralized as the bitcoin and other old projects?

The idea of having a decentralized world bank still won't make sense but it seems that I am right because if we read the title of the thread again, it says "co-owner", so it means they are still the one that controls most of our funds. Geez I don't like that, sorry.
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A crypto bank is a network of individual smart contracts, united by a common control over the emission of bond tokens, managed jointly by all owners of the ETH deposit and by no one in particular. Anyone who has placed financial assets in a deposit at their address in a smart contract can become a co-owner of a crypto bank.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a world bank? on: June 25, 2022, 11:07:19 PM
Central banks are usually owned by the country they operate in. If the would start selling shares to the public and try to become a public company, that would be nice. Personally I would definitely invest in a central bank. Their funding comes from the government and their loans to commercial banks are usually backed by the government as well. It's a pretty solid business model with a lot of government guarantees. A great way to make money for the owners.
I really agree with you that Central Bank of a nation belong to that particular contract but from my understanding I understand that Central Bank of nation is not entitled to have shares or shares to the public because share is something of of company not of a government sector accentra bank when we talk of Central Bank it is a place we are a country or a nation general fund is stored , because any of the state branches so it's not something but someone can say a share 
Any center (central bank) means centralization. In my project, I'm talking about a decentralized (world bank) feel the difference.
7  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a world bank? on: June 25, 2022, 10:38:16 PM
What is the main problem you want to solve with this? What makes you think more problems won't be created trying to solve the problem.

Do you have examples of assets that do not or will not lose value?

Your idea is very interesting though

Good question.
In my opinion, the main problem is that everyone is trying to solve the new decentralized financial system within the framework of the old proven monetary system. This mistake is made by everyone who is trying to come up with another stable coin by tying it to the dollar or another Fiat. Satoshi proposed another solution for the development of a new decentralized economy and everyone together undertook to link Bitcoin to the Dollar, everyone began to print their own stable coins without understanding the basics of the value of decentralized finance, this is the same as the treasury began to print dollar No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, etc. as much as necessary and we will do.
I solved this problem with my project by creating an example of an asset that under no circumstances can be devalued because it is not tied to Fiat, which means it cannot be reset.

Give me some time to go through your work and understand exactly what it's about.
Are you a programmer?

Central means controlled specifically by someone.
The World Bank is a Decentralized Bank with no center, managed simultaneously by all its co–owners, wherever they are. This bank, accumulating the financial asset of its owners, brings profit to everyone. Its main advantage is that it cannot be bankrupted.
Decentralization has no center.

A truly Decentralized Bank with no center should be very difficult to centralize. There are several things that disqualify World Bank from being considered a Decentrized Bank, eg Privacy/Anonimity of owners, barrier of entry etc
If you explain why it is necessary to centralize a decentralized bank, then I will try to answer. If you think that your anonymity is at risk in this bank, then it seems to me that everyone is responsible for the anonymity of their wallet address, there is no verification in this bank.

I mean those who control a decentralized system should be anonymous, or their privacy should be well protected otherwise a bad actor who wants to centralize the system could easily hunt them down and get them to surrender control & do whatever he wants them to do. I developed a project that not only anonymize participants but regularly randomize them to make such takeover almost impossible, yet the participants can be punished when they try to hurt the system while being anonymous.
Anonymity needs to be guaranteed to participants to prevent a takeover and centralization a decentralized system.

I don't understand you at all, can a system be decentralized if its control is carried out by anonymous people, who, according to you, are regularly randomized? In my opinion, this is pseudo decentralization.
The project completely lacks any regulator. The main advantage of the project is that the owners of ETH manage their financial assets without transferring them on their own to anything other than their addresses connected to the smart contract, or only for the necessary initial connection, and also if they only need bond tokens.

Placed ETH in the depository cannot be stolen from the addresses of the owners connected to the smart contract, as it is blocked, which provides additional insurance for invested funds.

A crypto bank is a network of individual smart contracts, united by a common control over the emission of bond tokens, managed jointly by all owners of the ETH deposit and by no one in particular. Anyone who has placed financial assets in a deposit at their address in a smart contract can become a co-owner of a crypto bank.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a world bank? on: June 25, 2022, 10:41:48 AM
What is the main problem you want to solve with this? What makes you think more problems won't be created trying to solve the problem.

Do you have examples of assets that do not or will not lose value?

Your idea is very interesting though

Good question.
In my opinion, the main problem is that everyone is trying to solve the new decentralized financial system within the framework of the old proven monetary system. This mistake is made by everyone who is trying to come up with another stable coin by tying it to the dollar or another Fiat. Satoshi proposed another solution for the development of a new decentralized economy and everyone together undertook to link Bitcoin to the Dollar, everyone began to print their own stable coins without understanding the basics of the value of decentralized finance, this is the same as the treasury began to print dollar No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, etc. as much as necessary and we will do.
I solved this problem with my project by creating an example of an asset that under no circumstances can be devalued because it is not tied to Fiat, which means it cannot be reset.

Give me some time to go through your work and understand exactly what it's about.
Are you a programmer?

Central means controlled specifically by someone.
The World Bank is a Decentralized Bank with no center, managed simultaneously by all its co–owners, wherever they are. This bank, accumulating the financial asset of its owners, brings profit to everyone. Its main advantage is that it cannot be bankrupted.
Decentralization has no center.

A truly Decentralized Bank with no center should be very difficult to centralize. There are several things that disqualify World Bank from being considered a Decentrized Bank, eg Privacy/Anonimity of owners, barrier of entry etc
If you explain why it is necessary to centralize a decentralized bank, then I will try to answer. If you think that your anonymity is at risk in this bank, then it seems to me that everyone is responsible for the anonymity of their wallet address, there is no verification in this bank.
9  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 24, 2022, 11:19:38 AM
I would like a business to use the blockchain and all the advantages that this gives, and I think that it would be much better than becoming a co-founder of such a bank. Because you can integrate different useful things together. Fortunately for my employees, with the help of Pandadoc, it became possible to implement a different level of document management using new software. If we add to this all the advantages of the blockchain system, then it was possible to make products much better than now
To become the owner of your cell in the world bank, where everyone is independent and independent, free to conduct their own business independently, benefiting not only themselves, but all owners of their cells, I think this business deserves attention.
                      



This bank cannot be bankrupted, so your financial assets are protected and liquid.

It is still in fiat world, and we are looking for a crypto one, or at least I am looking for one. I would love to have a bank, like regular old bank idea and nothing weird, but instead of fiat just with crypto and nothing more. I would love to have a bank where I would put my bitcoins in, each month when I earn my salary, and then I would have a debit card, maybe a credit card if I have high score, or a loan all in crypto and they would have some signatures and collateral and so forth like regular banks as well.

There could be some people who default, but at the end of the day there could be some who won't and if the default rate is low, then they will profit and make a ton of profit plus they could get a lot of money when bitcoin goes up too.

This project just meets your desire. This bank allows you not only to accumulate your assets, but also gives you the opportunity to earn by helping others open their accounts (cells) and do the same, which leads to an increase in the total deposit, which affects your income percentages.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 23, 2022, 12:41:38 AM
But what’s the point in this project if we already have several such projects lying around. What’s the difference between yours and the one that already exists. Starting from the bitcoin itself we have encountered whole new arena of co-ownership of the decentralised world bank. Every individual holding small to heavy balances in terms of bitcoin is already owning their bank and free from the centralised bank’s regulations. So apart from this any new project that comes up would be added advantage for us.

You are right about the keyword (if we already have several such projects lying around), and the difference is that none of them meets the requirements for the liquidity of the security of your investments. This project solves these problems.
11  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Банк депозитарий ЕТН on: June 23, 2022, 12:24:39 AM
Поиск только по сети эфира выдаёт 560 монет, в название которых входит слово "WORLD". Поиск в coinmarketcap выдаёт только 6 монет со словом "WORLD" в названии и которые где нибудь торгуются. Так что мировые деньги, монеты, финансы, ресурсы, золото, богатство, еда, туризм, спорт и даже порно уже давно придуманы и даже напечатаны но ни кому не нужны. ETH как то сам справляется со своей регуляцией и развитием.

Название не принципиально это рабочее придумайте что ни будь другое подходящее и увековечите свою принадлежность к будущим финансам. Я даже особо отмечу ваш вклад в создании децентрализованных стабилкойнов.
12  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 21, 2022, 01:21:42 AM
How do you guarantee that there are not a devaluation of your deposits? You are only looking at the influence that the deposits at this Bank will have, but not at the influence that trading of that token on other Exchanges will have.

A Bank in other people's view, is something that secure deposits and also give interest on their deposits. (Most Banks... but lately some people are paying Banks to secure their deposits)  Roll Eyes

Can you create some Infogram for your vision for this Bank to explain it a bit better?
Good question!

If you have an account (a cell in a crypto bank) and you put ETH in it, the crypto bank has given you its guarantees (keys to the cell in the form of tokens). The property of tokens is to unlock the cell, they are also needed to open an account in a crypto bank. It makes no sense to sell or mortgage them below par, since they can only grow in price with the growth of the issue. If you (the keys) sell ETH, it will remain blocked in your cell until you find a way to unlock it, for this you have the opportunity if you start to intensively connect others who want to open an account in a crypto bank offering their account for connection. This way everyone will be happy. There are no losers in this project, there are only latecomers, as in the example of bitcoin.
13  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Банк депозитарий ЕТН on: June 21, 2022, 12:38:08 AM
Тема интересная, второй раз уже к ней возвращаюсь, но почему то мне проглядывается здесь очерки проекта - Callisto Network (https://callisto.network/) где основатели проекта создали фичу Cold Staking, кратко:

Что такое Cold Staking?

Cold staking не связан с PoS и консенсус механизмами. Держатели не имеют прав для генерации блока или подтверждения транзакции. Они получают процент за удержание(заморозку) их средств.




Я не знаю если только удержание является общим. Главное в проекте совсем другое. Это сделать ЭФИР  криптой номер один и создать условие положительной волатильности токена смарт контракта при котором будет возможность прихода в крипту больших финансовых активов не опасаясь потерь.

Если вы хотите сам Эфириум возводить в такой статус - это одно, это к разработчикам Эфириум нужно идти, а если какой то новый проект на основе эфириума - другое совсем, почему обращаю внимание, потому что вы написали: Это сделать ЭФИР  криптой номер один .
Вы правильно меня поняли. Чтобы ЕТН стал таким нужно лишь сделать его привлекательным для инвестиций и это у него уже всё есть. На основе ЕТН нужно лишь сделать мой проект который привлечёт в ЕТН банковский сектор который не будет опасаться потери финансовых активов и тогда вы увидите что произойдёт совсем крипто рынком.

Идея интересная, но опять таки, это нужно с разработчиками эфириума уже общаться это очень масштабно и наверняка у вас запросят представить бизнес-план и сам тех. проект.

Вы правы проект действительно масштабный и я готов общаться с любыми разработчиками только Жаль что я не могу достучаться до тех кто способен помочь мне реализовать эту идею.

А почему не можете достучаться? Можно же написать всем разработчикам Ethereum, Ada (Cardano), публичным разработчикам Monero, разработчикам Bitcoin, Дэну Ларимеру и другим (это все люди публичные и общительные) - с одним вопросом, у меня есть очень интересная криптоидея для реализации я ее хочу заявить и получить критику и обсуждение.

И они сами подскажут где и в каком формате ее нужно презентовать, может и сами поучаствуют в обсуждении.

А там может все и выкристаллизируется в проект, и действительно мировая финансовая система будет изменена😊

Тут надо активно действовать и общаться, все идет через людей, без людей ничего не получится.
Я много раз обращался к разработчикам и всегда получал один ответ сначала деньги потом мы будем разбираться. За техзадание запросили $2т. у меня просто этих денег нет.
14  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 19, 2022, 11:42:01 PM
I like it when all my data is secure and I don't have to worry about its security when connect jira to power bi. I find it the perfect software for working with jira because it makes my workflow much easier, especially in the evening, and it's also an easy way quickly prepare various jira reports. In general, I really advise you to pay attention to this software.
You obviously associate your software with a safe deposit box. But here's the trouble: you, like a bank cell, have a master who can open or close your data as easily and simply as in life, so my advice to you is to go into decentralization.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Question? Can the address in the smart contract be a wallet address. on: June 18, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
The situation is as follows -
There is a smart contract with parameters
if ether is sent to his address in contact, he blocks it at the address in the smart contract, and in response to the address from which the ether came, he sends tokens that he generated. The ether will become available when the tokens return to the contract.
Question? Can the address in the smart contract be a wallet address.
16  Economy / Economics / Re: Decentralized control of Cryptocurrencies on: June 08, 2022, 09:29:09 AM
all countries of the world build their financial policies on the same principle, focusing on the $ USD exchange rate because the world does not yet know another better system.


Everyone with a concept of a better system. Can publicize their idea and request funding to make it a reality on kickstarter. Other avenues of more discrete funding are available from many different sources. Making it easier to develop and deploy new financial concepts today, in contrast to previous eras. Free markets can then decide the value of the new system and whether to adopt it.

Formulating new ideas and formats is the easiest and least time intensive part of this process. Which is counter intuitive in terms of it also being the most neglected aspect of development. Most do not wish to reinvent the wheel or develop a better mousetrap. They're satisfied with incremental improvements over the status quo.

Developing a better financial system runs contrary to many standard industry practices.


You are absolutely right, all financial developments in the field of cryptocurrency are focused on the Fiat system. Everyone is trying to repeat it in a decentralized version, not realizing that it is simply impossible for them to have a different nature of existence. Fiat cannot exist without management, and decentralized finance is inherently unmanaged by anyone in particular and no public consensus will solve this problem. If you cross a hedgehog and a hedgehog, you understand what happens in the end.
I have proposed an alternative solution for the development of decentralized finance, which does not rely on the Fiat exchange rate, but transforms it into a cryptocurrency without fear of losses. No one has refuted it yet.

A timeline for the development of decentralized finance.
17  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a decentralized world bank? on: June 08, 2022, 03:14:37 AM
I would like a business to use the blockchain and all the advantages that this gives, and I think that it would be much better than becoming a co-founder of such a bank. Because you can integrate different useful things together. Fortunately for my employees, with the help of Pandadoc, it became possible to implement a different level of document management using new software. If we add to this all the advantages of the blockchain system, then it was possible to make products much better than now
To become the owner of your cell in the world bank, where everyone is independent and independent, free to conduct their own business independently, benefiting not only themselves, but all owners of their cells, I think this business deserves attention.
                      



This bank cannot be bankrupted, so your financial assets are protected and liquid.


18  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Децентрализованный контроль криптовал on: June 07, 2022, 01:19:52 AM
ADA не является стейблкоином, это основная монета сети Cardano - https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/cardano.

Если вы опасаетесь использовать централизованные стейблкоины, у вас есть прекрасная возможность использовать децентрализованные или алгоритмические стейблкоины. Более подробную информацию о них можете найти в теме Стейблкоины обзор (Ноябрь 2019)

Алгоритмические стейблкоины терпят неудачу именно потому, что они пытаются привязаться к доллару США. Они всегда будут терпеть неудачу именно потому, что их алгоритмы несовершенны, нельзя измерять децентрализованные финансы физической величиной, Попробуйте измерить сколько весит 1 биткоин в килограммах.
Децентрализованные финансы это параллельные централизованным, у них нет ни одной общей точки соприкосновения. Они могут только пересекаться в разных местах, трансформироваться друг в друга.
Внедрять Фиатную монетарную систему в децентрализованную экономику с помощью искусственных стабилкойнов это абсурд. Сам принцип децентрализованной экономики основан на её открытости и стабильности. Криптовалюта с открытым исходным кодом прозрачна и предсказуема, она сама может себя стабилизировать и даже управлять Фиатной экономикой.
19  Economy / Economics / Re: Decentralized control of Cryptocurrencies on: June 07, 2022, 12:20:39 AM
Algorithmic stablecoins don't fail because they are trying to get linked to USD, they fail because their algorithms are flawed and can be abused. Is it possible to invent a perfect algorithm that can't be hacked? We don't know, so far no one studied the theory behind it, the shitcoin creators are building things because they can and they get rich in the process, regardless of the outcome.

Algorithmic stablecoins fail precisely because they try to bind to the US dollar. They will always fail precisely because their algorithms are imperfect, it is impossible to measure decentralized finance by a physical quantity, Try to measure how much 1 bitcoin weighs in kilograms.
Decentralized finance is parallel to centralized, they do not have a single common point of contact. They can only intersect in different places, transform into each other.
To introduce a Fiat monetary system into a decentralized economy with the help of artificial stablecoins is absurd. The very principle of a decentralized economy is based on its openness and stability. An open source cryptocurrency is transparent and predictable, it can stabilize itself and even manage the Fiat economy.
20  Economy / Economics / Re: Decentralized control of Cryptocurrencies on: June 06, 2022, 09:22:40 AM
What do you think? Is it necessary or possible to control a decentralized cryptocurrency or not.

let's take it from the meaning of it all, we called something a decentralized network, having the full understanding of what the word decentralized means it has made the whole explanation of itself without any need to further stress, Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency and can not be controlled by any third party, we all understand many attempts from government to regulate and control cryptocurrency but all moves turns void as bitcoin has its system controlled and regulated by itself, only the crypto industries and exchanges can't escape the regulation on tax among others from government since they are centralized.
The main thing is to understand what Bitcoin control is for you. If you mean in this concept that no one can take it away from you or forbid you to dispose of it, then this is true, but you are mistaken! Bitcoin is controlled by its main holders. They manage its volatility and control it very well, while making good money on it. By managing volatility, they become monopolists, and monopoly is the main control over the crypto market.
Agreed, the whales on the market were able to manipulate the market. This isn't long lasting, they were able to do this to some extent. Those are days when the market is infant, whenever there happens a crash the whales make some disturbance and the same crashes the market even further. I remember those days when there is crash, we can see a series of negative news on hacks, stolen funds etc that are intentionally circulated to create panic waves.

I repeat, monopoly is the main control of any market and bitcoin is no exception. A monopolist controls bitcoin through Fiat, emptying your wallets, stuffing his own and try to get out of this control, it is unlikely that you will succeed. The crypto market in this sense completely repeats the currency market. The principle of the market is to make money on the mistakes of other market participants.
Any monopoly inflates bubbles and collects its fragments in time, this is the main tool for enrichment. If there was an opportunity to insure your risks from such losses, life would be more fun.
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