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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Looking for a bitcoin investor - Proven Methods/2.2x return/ from 0.01 to 12 on: May 16, 2013, 03:48:40 AM
The reason for a lack of investors can be summed up thusly:

Why would anyone ever, ever invest in what is either a scam or a misguided, guaranteed to fail venture?
2  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Another ASIC company[Could be a scam?] on: April 19, 2013, 08:53:13 PM
GPU Rigs, care to explain why your ASIC site has images taken from Butterfly Labs just like the scam site at the beginning of this thread?

Archival: http://puu.sh/2DbXO.jpg http://puu.sh/2DbYJ.jpg http://puu.sh/2DbZi.jpg http://www.asicrigs.com/2.png http://www.butterflylabs.com/upload/homepage/header.jpg

You even appear to have done image manipulation to try and make the most obvious signs of copying less apparent, which makes things more problematic than if you were just reusing images.

Here's my amateur analysis of the image. Red marks things that are present in both images, and black marks things that were apparently deemed too obvious to the naked eye and edited out, including the rather slipshod attempt at covering up the BFL logo, the tiling is easily apparent and I've placed black dots to mark each tile.




Reusing images: PR slip-up.
Reusing images and editing them beyond just removal of the BFL logo to try and make it hard for anyone to tell that they're reused: Weird.
3  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet Claims - Who can access? / Who gets 404 error? on: April 12, 2013, 05:40:16 PM
OK I get, there's no form because the balance is 0. This has to be fixed! Boussac, please let those with 0 balance fill the forms, becayse the 0 is wrong for many

Try reading the page again. See that little notice addressing exactly what you're talking about? I even screenshotted it for you to be helpful, scroll up.
4  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet Claims - Who can access? / Who gets 404 error? on: April 12, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
Here is the claims page, for those who want to know. Probably looks different if the balance is over 0 though, someone else please take a screenshot, censor out the URL in Paint or whatever, and post.

5  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 11, 2013, 08:40:46 PM
Wow, it isn't even plausibly a mistake.



They're not even trying anymore.
6  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox approval queue (5000?) on: April 10, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
MPOE-PR appears to be doing something known as "unfounded accusations and trolling". I advise you disregard them, their Ignore button is gold for a reason.

I'd never noticed some people have gold Ignore buttons.

What's the criteria for your link to be 'golden'ed?
Basically, the more people that ignore you, the golder your Ignore button becomes. It's a nifty way of showing who tends to be ignored by people a lot, for whatever reason that might be.

Here's theymos' post when he actually implemented it, that has some more detail on how it's exactly implemented. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68329.msg796962#msg796962

Edit: And for completion, one more quirk of the ignore system: every 500 posts you have makes one of your ignores not count. So someone with 1000 posts who's had 8 established members ignore them would only have an ignore count of 6. Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68329.msg1584088#msg1584088
7  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 10, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
I see no claim in process.
Am I looking the wrong way?
It's been quite some time.

As Boussac said, the claim is scheduled to open up April 12th. So far, things are as far as anyone outside of Instawallet knows, on schedule.

UPDATE

We are currently developing and preparing the online claim form.  
We appreciate your patience as we work with limited resources.  
We regret not being able to do more as Instawallet was a free service (zero fees) and could not pay for additional resources.  
However, we would like to reassure you that we will have the claims processed in due time, by the end of the initial 90-day period.  
The claim form is schedule for delivery by Friday, April 12th.
8  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 10, 2013, 02:38:28 PM
Tronlet: Many good points. Since I don't have data about the site, I have no idea how many users there are on this service.

At least there's one very outspoken member of the community on this thread claiming he has 100 BTC outstanding, and that he has screenshots of everything, why could not people like that be helped at the very least ?

Also, no police report number ?

And at one point they claim that bitcoins are stolen, yet later they claim everybody's bitcoins are safe. Which is it ?

Maybe once the claims process is opened they will be helped, and perhaps faster than others since the 90 day period is only for the sub-50 BTC ones.

Also, Instawallet might be planning on replenishing the stolen ones out of their own pocket, or maybe they were just talking about bitcoin-central. Realistically, as long as a small number of coins were stolen, all wallets should be able to be reimbursed, due to the number of wallets that will never be claimed.

On the lack of a police report number, they could just not want to make such a thing public, but especially their lack of even an explanation for a lack of a police report number makes this the point where I kind of cross over from trying to provide valid defenses, to just playing devil's advocate.

Boussac, seriously. At least acknowledge the requests for a police report number? Apologies if you have, I haven't read every post.

Edit: Now I have.

Also, I should note that I still am not too worried about Instawallet, just because they are doing poorly in one area of dealing with this does not necessarily mean they are fully lying.
9  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Another ASIC company[Could be a scam?] on: April 10, 2013, 02:04:00 AM
If you click on "buy now" button, it does not actually work. LOL
Let's not try that. Just in case.
10  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 10, 2013, 01:56:56 AM
Read my post earlier in the thread, it's quite possible to handle claims (at least some of them) on an ongoing basis.

I assume you mean either this:
10. Your stated claims process on the Instawallets site states: “If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.”. Please will you describe the logic of that? If a hacker has the URLs then surely he can file a claim as quickly as any legitimate account holder? And if you’re assuming that the first claim is likely to be the more “legitimate” one then why wait 90 days? Your logical methodology makes little sense and I would appreciate clarification.

11. You also state that “Claims for wallets that hold a balance greater than 50 BTC will be processed on a case by case and best efforts basis.” Please clarify why the “arbitrary” figure of 50 BTC has been chosen. This comment suggests that you have lost a certain number of coins and need to limit your total payout to what you have left. Please confirm if this is how it is, or if there is another reason for this figure?

or this:
The 90 day claim process is highly questionable, and it's a typical scammer way of evading and delaying the process. After 90 days, people will have 'forgotten', many give up, because they only have small amounts and so on... Lot's of accounts (read: unique urls) should be possible to verify beyond doubt given pieces of information, and should be handled manually on an ongoing basis, then those remaining in an uncertain state should be held until the 90 days are up, and then be released to the person claiming it. To avoid having to pay out to some hacker who've submitted multiple claims, some verification would be possible to do, to ensure multiple claims does not go to the same person. (I know some may have more instawallets, but it's a difference in having 2-3 and having 45...)

There are many pieces of info that could be used to determine whether it's a legitimate claim or not, and these could be handled on an ongoing basis.

For instance a user could be using the same ip for most of his access to instawallet, and he might even be able to remember transactions in or out of instawallet, and he may even have access to adresses from which he previously have sent coins, and can prove he control these, perhaps he even have screenshots from an exchange showing withdrawals to his adress, or have transaction history in a local wallet.

Also, it depends on how much information the hacker got from the database. How much does he know about the users, and how easy would it be to fake a claim ? That's rather important information needed to determine the course of action.

Neither of these quotes have logic I find all that convincing. The one point I'll grant you is that instawallet will no doubt make money off of this, whether or not it's a scam, because of the number of people that will have forgotten after 90 days.

However, that doesn't mean that, assuming it isn't a scam, they shouldn't exercise this level of security anyway. Maybe they should be more lax on wallets under .25 BTC in balance, but they've arbitrarily decided on two divisions instead of three, one below 50 BTC and one above 50 BTC.

All of the methods of determining wallets that you speak of are things I'm sure they'll do, if more than one claim is filed or if the wallet has a balance of 50 BTC or more.

it depends on how much information the hacker got from the database. How much does he know about the users, and how easy would it be to fake a claim ? That's rather important information needed to determine the course of action."

Yes, and it's also something that shouldn't be publicized, in the interest of reducing the number of false claims.

On a final note, it's preferable that bitinstant wouldn't have to process the claims at all, and could just return them immediately. Of course, this is an impossible ideal. There are a lot of wallets, and a claims process isn't something very easy to automate, and the number of wallets mean that it would take potentially, probably, far more than 90 days for them to process all the claims manually.

The 90 day wait is an easy way to verify, with zero human work, the majority of the claimed wallets, of which there will presumably be many. If they were to try and do them all case-by-case as you suggest, in the interest of not having to wait 90 days, there would be a backup and the majority of users would most likely have to wait longer than 90 days, in the end. The 90 day wait comes closest to that impossible ideal.

Edit: Actually, the "forgetting after 90 days" problem depends on how they implement the claims system. If you could just give them an address at the very beginning of the claims process to send the funds to if there are no other claims, then forget about it, then that problem would be abolished more or less.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: April 09, 2013, 09:01:49 PM
30k ripples are still being given out for each valid request.

Just figured I'd post an update, since this thread is just addresses and no hint of whether things are still running, or if the amount has been decreased as hinted at in the main topic. If you haven't received any, it's presumably because your account is too young. There are a lot of accounts posting that are too young, created after February 19th, 2013.

I received my 30k ripples 4 hours after posting the request a few posts above.
Unfair. I didn't get any coin.

That would be because you haven't read the rules and requirements. Tongue

It's a little odd to me how many invalid accounts are trying to get the coins, though I guess it shouldn't be.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 09, 2013, 08:59:40 PM
I hope this claims process works out after 90 days.  I don't think they would re-open bitcoin central if they were going to run with the bitcoins. 

That's 3 months where a very large amount of bitcoins are locked up..

What else would they do, assuming they're legit?

Decrease the waiting period, and thus decrease the security? I think 90 days is a good choice. If they're scammers, they're scammers, and there's nothing to be done about it, or at least the 90 day wait doesn't change much. If they're for real, the 90 day wait is 100% a good idea, for obvious reasons.
13  Economy / Goods / Re: 1962 Ford Thunderbird for Sale on: April 09, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
Mind putting something identifying on the hood and snapping a picture just to prove you really own the car and these aren't someone else's pictures? No offense, just a fairly valuable item you're selling here as I'm sure you know.
14  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 09, 2013, 07:25:00 PM
There has been no crime ref number
Phinnaeus is joking.
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Little Mt.Gox help. on: April 09, 2013, 07:14:46 PM
It's pretty standard, if you ever played online poker you'd have encountered it too. They're very lax when it comes to depositing, but when it comes to withdrawing you first have to supply some proof about your identity before you can withdraw or transfer off a site.

Done plenty of withdrawals, though.
16  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Little Mt.Gox help. on: April 09, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
So you HAVE to verify in order to withdraw at all?
The yellow box says I am able to withdraw 100BTC today.

Thanks.

I've been able to withdraw from mtgox, both BTC and mtgoxUSD codes (up to the limit of $1000 per 24 hours or something) for years. It worked a week ago.

Now I also get the message: "Your account is currently pending review, please visit https://mtgox.com/forms/verification"

Worked fine a week ago, now this.

Contacted support, but it seems this takes 3 days.

What is this. Just setting my account to "pending verification" and not even an email about the reasons???


Same happened to me quite recently. I already thought it was ridiculous, but I'm judging by your status that you've been an even longer and more active Mt. Gox user than I have. This is pretty stupid.
17  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 09, 2013, 06:01:58 PM
Could you elaborate on this.

What came first?

How many people on here know him?

Has anybody heard anything from him since the hack?
I'm the wrong person to ask. I would assume, however, that he was a staff member first, and that plenty of people know him. He has been heard from since the hack, however, that much I do know.

So far, there isn't really much to be concerned about. I know that's cold comfort, I understand how anxious you must be getting to be waiting like this, and I find it rather unprofessional to be taking so long to set up a rather simple claims process, but so far they seem to be doing everything by the book, if a little slow. They may want to take extra careful precautions with security this time around.
18  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WolframAlpha on: April 09, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
They're listing it as 12.5 cents because of how their automatic heuristic search engine is processing it, not because of an outdated price check.

Bit = an eighth of something, a la 8 bits to a byte.

12.5 cents = an eighth of a dollar.

Very cool regardless, hope to see it working soon.
19  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet claim process on: April 09, 2013, 05:47:51 PM
Davout is staff here? I thought he was instawallet?

Both.
20  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox approval queue (5000?) on: April 09, 2013, 05:47:19 PM
MPOE-PR appears to be doing something known as "unfounded accusations and trolling". I advise you disregard them, their Ignore button is gold for a reason.

People have a year+ history of claiming this about what I say, only to be humiliated a few months later. But it's okay, because by then their mistaken assumptions and hardheadedness has already cost them all their BTC, and so they can disappear into the void, leaving room for a new generation of idiots to repeat the same mistakes.

Read my old posts, it will make you much smarter.

Sorry, don't have the time, been around for a bit longer than you have anyway, and never been scammed, nor have I messed up. I'm guessing you were calling out pirate@40 as a scammer, but that's not exactly notable. Who wasn't, aside from the delusional investors?

I invite you to back up your claims against Mt. Gox. Certainly what you say is possible, but anything's possible.
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