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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: April 01, 2018, 03:13:57 AM

I am definitly not aware of your proposed truth. How is it that if or if not GFL is a good investment or not is not the point?

 Roll Eyes  Lord almighty.  Roll Eyes

jsmithuk mentioned the GFL multipliers as an example of how Daniel M. Harrison deceived us and failed to deliver. That was the point. Your response to that was:

GFL? really? those guys are the very definition of a failure, look at where they are at with the project. Nothing, yet Dan again is supposed to be at fault? GFL is worthless and thats because they arnt getting anything done.


That is a complete deflection. Daniel is at fault for failing to deliver the multiplier, absolutely he is the one at fault for that. Nobody said Daniel was at fault for where GFL is at with their project. That has nothing to do with the multiplier. Daniel deceived us and failed to deliver. Daniel deceived us and failed to deliver. Daniel deceived us and failed to deliver. That is the point, and the fact that you are deflecting your own attention away from that pattern and focusing on irrelevant information like GFL's performance, is probably the reason why you still think there's hope for this "project" while most of us don't. Look at that list that jsmithuk posted and notice the pattern.


Fact is: Developments have been made and are currently still being made.
So they say. But time and time again they have deceived us and failed to deliver.

How come that i am supposed to just disregard the fact that MC/FB is still being developed?

Because time and time again they have deceived us and failed to deliver. Countless plans and projects have been introduced under the Monkey Capital banner, that then turned out to be obvious deceptions. If they want us to trust that their "development" is legitimate this time, they can pay us back for all the money we put into previous deceptions which evaporated into thin air.

i can go and find you tons of project who have also not yet resulted, but are still going on.

That is completely irrelevant. What matters to this project is the pattern of precedents set: time and time again, Daniel M. Harrison has deceived us and failed to deliver.

It may or may not be a scam
It is.


What i definitl am claiming is that there is constant development still going on
You are too trusting of people who time and time again have deceived us and failed to deliver.



i personally prefer to wait and see outcome of a given project/investment before concluding one thing or the other.

The project/investment is finished. When they deceived us and failed to deliver on their original plans, the project was finished, and what they are doing now bears no resemblance to what people originally invested in. Maybe you invested in each additional scam Daniel introduced, so it feels like the project is a continuation of the first one. But it's not. This whole thing has been a series of short term scams introduced one after another. He created a cult of people he can repeatedly deceive.

So ask yourself, are people like me just too impatient to wait for a promising reputable project to complete its development? Or are we noticing the pattern of deception and failure to deliver on many many plans and promises over an extended period of time?


And with that, I'm done with this topic. I think I've done my part to warn new investors to stay away from Monkey Capital, M0NK3Y, Factory Banking and anything associated with Daniel M. Harrison. To the people already in too deep, just get out of this joke of a "project". The market is low right now and might be that way for a while, so you can dollar-cost average your way into some projects that have actually potentially and ride them up during the next run.

Later.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: April 01, 2018, 12:40:19 AM
55domains, your continued delusion incredible to see. Is another user handle of yours elliotness? Whether it is or not, you remind me of him: the truth is right in front of your eyes and you seem to be aware of it, but you are unwilling to accept it because part of your identity is an absolute refusal to give up or quit something you’ve started. That’s a characteristic that has probably served you well for most of your life. It will not serve you well when you are waiting for a scammer to come up with a viable business. And Daniel is absolutely a scammer, whether he set out to be one or just fell into being one because he’s completely inept.

Your dismissal of criticism over the failure to carry out the multiplier swap is ridiculous. GFL did not
fail to execute the swap, Daniel did. Daniel is 100% at fault for promising that to investors and not delivering. Whether GFL is a good investment is besides the point. The point is that it’s yet another example of Daniel scamming us.

 Wake up from your trance.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 31, 2018, 02:33:00 AM
Updated Notice on Lawsuit Against Monkey Capital ICO and Daniel Harrison

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As alleged in the Amended Complaint, Monkey Capital LLC, Monkey Capital Inc., and the companies' founder and principal (Daniel Harrison) fraudulently promoted an ICO and engaged in an unregistered offering and sale of securities that violated numerous state and federal securities laws.  The Lawsuit pleads that the Court rescind all investments in Monkey Capital; return to the investors their cryptocurrency; require Monkey Capital to account for all funds raised from investors; and adjudicate that Monkey Capital and Mr. Harrison violated multiple securities laws when they promoted and abruptly abandoned the unregistered, pre-functional ICO.

Amended complaint: https://www.silvermillerlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/2018-3-7-DE-28-AMENDED-COMPLAINT.pdf

I'm not sure who knows about it, but one of the plaintiffs in this lawsuit took his own life back around Christmas time. From what I understand, he had invested in Monkey Capital not just with his own money but also on behalf of some family members. His name is still listed as a plaintiff despite not being here anymore.

This is by far the worst result of Daniel M. Harrison's scam.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 30, 2018, 11:57:58 PM
I have personally been offered a position which i kindly rejected. And never have i been mentioned anywhere on any website, which leads me to believe (rightfully so) that everyone mentioned has also agreed to be mentioned, or do i just happen to be the exception given your theory?

That's because you're just an investor from the community. The people he listed as team members without their agreement were people whose business reputations he could leverage. Why we would he be that anxious to put a random investor's face on the website?

You all are in here saying MC/FB is/was a scam, before the show is even over

Because it's a serial scam with continuous new iterations. If you were not in a state of delusion fueled by confirmation bias you would be able to run back over all the previous iterations in your mind and see it. Daniel literally created a CULT so he could string people along indefinitely rather than just commit a one-off scam. It would have been better if he had just vanished after dumping his COE. At least then people would have immediately known he was a scammer and moved on, rather than getting strung along with false hope and open wallets for the next year.

I would love to see Daniel M. Harrison in prison. That is where he belongs. If Martin Shkreli got 7 years Daniel should too.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 30, 2018, 04:30:22 PM
What exactly is your goal?

Speaking for myself, I don’t want to see more people get sucked into a lunatic’s scam and have havoc wreaked on their lives. It seriously depresses me to think about how badly some people got screwed by Monkey Capital. Like that pastor guy who invested $100,000, because he’s a mystical person by nature and fell for Daniel’s hack hypnosis techniques, thinking there was “something special in the air” when Daniel spoke. You could see him desperately trying to remain hopeful as he grew more and more concerned with Daniel’s lunatic behaviour and recklessness. The poor guy, he’s just some nice guy who was prone to being manipulated because he thought his emotions were God speaking to him. He got screwed. Sure, he was gullible, as I was, and obviously we didn’t protect ourseves enough, but still - I don’t want to see other naive people get screwed.

And some of the Goldseek listener lost their houses over this lousy sham. Goldseek’s Chris is also a piece of shit who used obvious hypnosis techniques on his listeners, but so did Daniel. And he spoke with utmost confidence about Monkey Capital becoming the world’s first trillion dollar corporation. The entire initial pump of COE came from Goldseek listeners pumping in tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands each. Daniel understood the demographics of Goldseek’s listeners very well and his manipulation was custom tailored to fool them into handing over their wealth. Crypto projects never market themselves specifically to that demographic, only Daniel did because he knew he could manipulate them more easily than other people. Their tendency to believe in conspiracies is a kind of mysticism, making them prone to Daniel’s hypnosis. Make no mistake, Daniel is a purposefully manipulative and deceitful predator.

And Monkey Capital always had FAKE TEAM MEMBERS. Daniel would simply call to talk to someone and if they expressed possible interest in some sort of discussions of partnership, he would put them on his website without them actually being on the team. Or he would recruit people with his his smooth talk and make them a team member but then continue doing everything himself and never even call them. He was just milking them for legitimacy. Once his reputation in the industry became so bad that nobody trusted him as far as they could throw them, he started making his own investors part of the team. But then if they actually tried to do their jobs he would do things like declare them traitors and try to have them ostracized by the community. Daniel has no team. There is only Daniel plus a bunch of placeholder photos on the website.

And apparently nothing has changed in that regard.

Daniel was and is a complete mess of a person and can’t create anything other than a complete mess of a project, and a mess of people’s lives. Stay away, everyone. That means stay away from anything with name
Monkey Capital, M0nk3y, Factory Banking, or his name Daniel M. Harrison.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 27, 2018, 01:27:21 PM
According to this document (https://www.silvermillerlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/2018-3-7-DE-28-AMENDED-COMPLAINT.pdf), as of March 7, 2018 Vlad (the guy who started this thread) was still suing Daniel. Yet here he is saying he has faith in Daniel. lol. Monkey Capital is such a ridiculous circus.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 26, 2018, 12:12:07 PM
Those last things were Futr/x, those are backed by eth at 85% in the worst case scenario. Thats better then any other project has ever offered, if they fall to 0 ever then thats that.

If you believe a damn thing a serial liar has to say, then maybe you can rely on such guarantees. There is more than enough reason to never believe a single thing Daniel says ever again. That's the thing about fraudulent behavior, lies, and scams. You can't just wake up one day and say "Hey guys, THIS time it's different! THIS time I'm not lying, and THIS time my guarantee is worth a shit." There is such a thing as precedent, and after DOZENS of precedents set by Daniel himself, I really don't care what he says about any new token he puts out. Based on previous behavior, I have every reason to believe that this time will be deceitful and fraudulent just like it was every other time in the past.

So, telling me "this project is actually good" doesn't mean anything to me. What matters is that it is run by a serial con artist who is holding a small group of people by the balls, who will swear by Daniel to the grave because they can't admit to themselves that they got dragged into a crazy man's toy box.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 25, 2018, 09:02:00 AM
... pretty much simply translates to: I invested in a project and it currently seems i cant cash out 500%+ after 9 months so i have to keep on wasting endless amounts of my and others time on/in a project i dont even believe in anymore because thats the mature thing to do.

You keep reframing the issue as us running away from the project because we are impatient and don't understand that it takes time to build a business. That's not it at all. If Daniel had ever said "Here's my business plan" and then followed it, and we could see that he was making even modest progress, then we would have waited. But what we saw time and time again was Daniel coming up with some hot new idea to get more of our money, and then completely fail to execute on the idea, and then tell us that the original idea is stupid and we are idiots for supporting it (acting like we thought of it and not him), and then banning anyone who criticized him for not doing what he himself decided was an amazing and brilliant new idea. Anyone who has dealt with a person with narcissistic personality disorder will be very familiar with the last point in bold.

All businesses have to overcome obstacles, but when the main obstacle is that the person running the business is destructive and toxic and unable to control his actions or emotions, then there is so little chance of the business succeeding that it makes no logical sense to waste time on it, let alone financial and emotional resources.

Daniel is like the polar opposite of King Midas - everything he touches falls apart. The chances of him changing are almost zero. Monkey Capital was a catastrophic circus, and Factory Banking will be too. This is why I'm not waiting. I have happily waited 8 or 9 months for other projects because I can see that they are genuinely building the underlying business. There's a big difference.

And by the way, the reason I'm popping back in for the first time in 6 months or so is because I don't want more people to buy into such a terrible project and lose their money. I wrote off my money, it's too late for me. But hopefully other people will read this and think twice before investing in Factory Banking. I don't want more people to get screwed.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 23, 2018, 06:52:44 PM
There is a reason we wont "snap out of it". That reason in specific is that there are still developments going on. Why would anyone in their right mind ditch something that is still under development.

Because they realize that no actual development is going on, just a whole lot of fluff talk from an unhinged person with no ability to fulfil a promise or stick to a business plan. It's not like I invested in Amazon and got angry about their lack of profits on paper (ie. reinvested profit). I invested in a total utter lunatic circus. Daniel lied so many times and made so many unfulfilled announcements that people would forget all but the most recent ones.

Were you there when he created Synthetic Zur and announced that he was going to fraudulently present it as a ZUR feed on Coinmarketcap? Remember he told us that we were going to pump ZUR sky high by buying Synthetic Zur on Waves, because that fake token would manipulate the price of the real Zur coin? It never worked, but a lot of people bought Synthetic ZUR, Daniel got money, and then never mentioned it ever again.

That's just one of dozens of incidents of him lying to and defrauding people, and I doubt anyone even remembered it until I mentioned it. There were just too many stupid scammy ideas like this to count. And I'm supposed to stick around for years waiting for him to build "the world's first trillion dollar corporation"? (That's how he referred to Money Capital on the Goldseek Radio show, by the way). I'm sorry, the guy's a complete fuckup.

I understand the delusion, because I was deluded too. But at some point you have stop living in a dream and actually look at what actions are going to bring you the best results.  Waiting for a reckless maniac with narcissistic personality disorder and no tech background to create a successful tech company is just a total waste of your time. Think about opportunity cost. I won't presume that Daniel's stuff is your only investment, I hope you're in lots of other projects and that Daniel's are a maximum of 10% or something. But focus on the others, this will go nowhere --- and, if I may say so, it will actually be worse than going nowhere, because Daniel is the type of person who leaves a trail of destruction and broken people behind him.

I refuse to be broken, because my woman depends on me being strong. So I got the hell out and rebuilt. Be very careful of that man.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: — Reconsidering The Monkey Capital Project. (News & Developments) on: March 23, 2018, 09:07:49 AM
I thought you were suing him, Vlad? And now you're back shilling his next iteration of this scam? I understand the reason, you want your money back. But you know as well as I do that the only way to get your money back is for a greater fool to get SCREWED as badly as you got screwed.

Whether Daniel set out to be a scammer from the start, or whether he accidentally turned into one because he had no idea what the hell he was doing and was frantically trying to cover his ass with no regard for ethics (how many ponzies begin), the obvious fact is that he is totally unreliable. You will never get any results from that loser. He is truly the biggest loser in crypto. Nothing but lies and empty promises meant to string people along and give them hope that maybe this time it's different.

Take whatever you have left and put it in some real projects. ICX, WAN, BBN (!), TRAC, anything good. Even if you put in $5000 you'll make more from that than from waiting for the world's biggest loser to become something other than a loser.

At best
, Monkey Capital was nothing but his own little experiment to try to prove to himself that he was not a total loser and disappointment to everyone. But if he wanted to do that, he shouldn't have done it with our money.

If you think this is going anywhere, you are totally delusional and I feel sorry for you guys. Snap out of it. It's been like 9 months of this.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ZURCOIN - POS/POW Hybrid? 14000%++ Rise in 2017 on: December 10, 2017, 10:06:57 AM
ZURCOIN is a scam inveted by markharrison. Just search in google for monkey capital. This guy has stolen tons of bitcoins from the poeple, he was dumping his own coins and told people that he was just letting people buy, then he exit scammed.
Noob.

lol, he's right. It was a pump and dump scam coin, just like all the other Monkey Craptial crap coins. Just Google Monkey Capital and Daniel M Harrison and look at all the complaints about this scam project. If you buy Zur, he'll dump it.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀🚀[ANN]EthereumDiamond💎💎💎 [FREE AIRDROP ] 🚀🚀 on: October 27, 2017, 06:06:52 AM

Link Airdrop will be available  22:00 GMT 22/10/2017
10:00 PM Sunday, in Greenwich Mean Time is
3:00 PM Sunday, in San Francisco , CA

waiting for information Grin
Any one received the airdrop? Registered early.
Anyway we can track if we are in?

I didn't join the airdrop. I bought some and I'm waiting for airdrop participants to start selling more tokens so I can buy more. Maybe they're having trouble finding the token on Etherdelta because the coin's initials aren't listed yet.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tezos discussion on: July 02, 2017, 03:15:28 PM
I'm in for 1.7 ETH. That's about 1/4 of what I had originally planned. There's so much money going in already that I'm going to wait until it hits exchanges and see what happens with the price. If it drops hard I'll buy in with the other 3/4.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tezos discussion on: July 02, 2017, 04:51:26 AM
Those using Ethers to enter TEZOS ICO, dont forget to use your public key in the data option otherwise you cant be mapped with your Tezos address..

"You MUST provide the associate the following data to the transaction, otherwise the fund cannot be associated to your Tezos wallet."

Can you explain what you mean here? Underneath that message there is a key, so at where do I need to give them that key? I don't know what you mean by "data option".
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which BTC wallet are you using on: September 30, 2016, 05:55:10 AM
coinbase wallet
using from long time.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 17, 2016, 06:04:12 AM
I think there are almost the same, but it is also depend on how people interpret the two. Sometimes it looks like the same because in trading you will also consuming your effort and time like also gambling. But in gambling you will lose money, effort and time. So I just think it is just depend on how people interpret it.
17  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Is Dying, And why it is different this time. on: March 30, 2014, 11:45:42 PM
So it might be over. Who cares. Anyone who buys Bitcoin knows that it could go down to zero. But the potential upside is huge, so I`m holding most of mine because there is a good possibility of making great returns, possibly mindboggling returns. There`s no guarantee it will continue upward? True, but there never has been. I`m willing to accept that risk.
18  Economy / Speculation / Re: Russia to Drop USD as reserve currency - could mean 5000+ USD bitcoins on: March 27, 2014, 11:46:48 PM
Where did you get the $5000+ figure from? Random guess?
19  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: It is now next to impossible to spend bitcoins legally if your american on: March 26, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
What I don`t understand is, if 1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin, and in my bitcoin wallet all my coins are lumped together, how do I know how much capital gains I have made on a PORTION of those bitcoins? I don`t know which bitcoin is which or when/where I bought each one, it`s not like they`re physical objects I can easily distinguish between. Do we average all of our fiat-to-bitcoin conversions to determine the starting basis?

Hopefully the IRS will change things in the future when Bitcoin`s price is more stable.
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Peter Schiff just turn bullish on Bitcoin? on: March 22, 2014, 11:49:04 PM
Hearsay from someone who has an interest in promoting Bitcoin. If I didn`t hear it from Schiff, then as far as I`m concerned he didn`t say it.
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