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281  Economy / Service Discussion / Joinverse.com - Instant payments (only in Europe currently) on: November 02, 2016, 06:14:57 AM
https://joinverse.com

(I don't work for them and I don't know anyone of them)


This is an interesting new service. It doesn't support Bitcoin, but maybe it can be good to make some private exchange between users.

It is similar to paypal and other fiat payment services, but currently is completely free (at least in europe it seems)
You can create the account in few minutes, then adding a credit/debit card, and you will be already able to send money, for free, to someone else.

I've asked if they are going to support SEPA Direct Debit, and they have replied that yes, they are working on it.


An article:
https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/25/verse-banks-8-3m-series-a-to-accelerate-its-p2p-payments-play-in-europe/

https://joinverse.com/en/faq/

Chargeback (?)
Quote
I paid the wrong person!
When you send a payment on Verse, the funds are instantly sent. If you sent the payment to someone who has a Verse account, send them a request for an amount equal to your mistaken payment along with a note about why you are sending the request. As soon as they accept the request, the funds will automatically be added back to your Verse balance.

If the other user is not accepting your request, please contact us and we’ll do our best to help you get the situation straightened out.​ Verse Support cannot cancel the payment you made, we can only reverse the payment with permission from both parties.

Limits (KYC):
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7.7. Limits

The User may implement the payment operations governed by these Conditions up to a limit of 400 Euros (or equivalent foreign currency amount) per year for accumulated payments made from or received into their payment account.

To exceed this limit, the User’s identity must be verified using authoritative documents, upon the implementation of said verification, the new limit will be 10,000 Euros (or equivalent foreign currency amount) per year for accumulated payments made from or received into their payment account.

The monthly limit on Card transactions shall be notified to the User at the time of issue.
But here they say 1000 euros https://twitter.com/joinverse/status/790941762370015232
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@AndresBernad No problem 👍 The limit that will require you to send the ID verification is 1.000€


Currently there is also a referral system:
After you make an account, every day they are going to give to the users some special invites.
By giving your personal code to the other users that will make an account, both of you will receive 1 euro.

After you have opened the account, you have to write the code under the Promotions section.

As I said the special invitation are limited, so if a code stops working, you will have to find the code of someone else.
Maybe you can write down your code on this discussion Smiley

My code is: Z4VLGM (and currently is valid only for 3 users)





Another interesting service:
Leupay - "Free" online SEPA account in Malta
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=978329.0
282  Local / Trading, analisi e speculazione / Re: [LISTA] Exchange con supporto leva on: November 02, 2016, 03:24:40 AM
Aggiunti intanto link vari a spiegazioni sul trading a leva Smiley

https://www.ig.com/it/leva-finanziaria
http://www.consob.it/web/investor-education/la-leva-finanziaria
https://www.forexinfo.it/La-Leva-Finanziaria
http://www.forexmind.it/guida-al-forex/basi-trading-forex/leva-finanziaria
283  Local / Servizi / Re: Advcash - Prepagata ricaricabile con Bitcoin - Verifica non richiesta - NEW EUR on: November 02, 2016, 03:21:06 AM
Come fornitore usano Mychoice.
Trovi info qua: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195274.0

In particolare questo: https://cardholder.mychoicecorporate.com/v3/tpl/MYCUK_limits.pdf
284  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: recuperare i bitcoin on: November 02, 2016, 12:41:30 AM
A meno che non usi qualche software di recupero dati, se il file wallet.dat è andato completamente perso, allora hai perso i tuoi bitcoin, e non c'è alcun modo per recuperarli.
285  Local / Trading, analisi e speculazione / [LISTA] Exchange con supporto leva on: October 31, 2016, 08:05:11 AM
Questa è una lista degli exchange che supportano il trading a leva.

La lista è in costruzione, potete segnalarne altri se li conoscete.
Cosa pensate che sia utile aggiungere?


Link vari a spiegazioni sul trading a leva:
https://www.ig.com/it/leva-finanziaria
http://www.consob.it/web/investor-education/la-leva-finanziaria
https://www.forexinfo.it/La-Leva-Finanziaria
http://www.forexmind.it/guida-al-forex/basi-trading-forex/leva-finanziaria


La lista non è in ordine di qualità e/o sicurezza.

https://www.therocktrading.com
Leve: 1.5x / 2x / 2.5x / 3x / 5x

https://www.kraken.com
Leve: 2x / 3x / 4x / 5x

https://www.bitfinex.com
Leve: 3x

https://www.bitmex.com
Leve: varie, fino a 100x

https://poloniex.com
Leve: 2.5x

https://coinpit.io
Leve: 2x / 5x / 10x / 25x / 50x / 100x / 200x

https://www.deribit.com
Leve: 20x

https://www.okcoin.com
Leve: 10x / 20x

https://www.quoine.com
Leve: fino a 25x

https://simplefx.com
Leve: fino a 500x

https://1broker.com
Leve: fino a 200x

https://www.cryptofacilities.com
Leve: 6x / 50x / altre

https://pro.btcc.com
Leve: 25x

https://www.xbtce.com
Leve: non mi è chiaro ...

https://www.huobi.com
Leve: fino a 20x

https://www.btc-q.com
Leve: fino a 50x, pare ...

https://796.com
Leve: fino a 20x, pare ...

https://www.bitvc.com
Leve: 5x / 10x / 20x

https://796.com
Leve: incerto (forse no)

https://cex.io
Leve: 2x, 3x
286  Local / Trading, analisi e speculazione / Deribit.com: BTC Options and Futures Exchange on: October 31, 2016, 04:05:32 AM
Discussione originale: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1550782

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5a1wex/interview_with_john_jansen_ceo_of_deribit_bitcoin/

Non ho alcuna connessione con loro.

Deribit, a Bitcoin Futures and Options Exchange is from today onwards open for trading at https://www.deribit.com. On our platform you can trade plain vanilla european style options with margin, as well as futures, on the price of bitcoin.

What do we offer?
- Lowest trading fees on the market: 0.01% trading fees for "takers" and 0.00% trading fees for "makers" for both futures and options.
- Plain vanilla european style cash settlement options on BTC price index.
- Advanced options trading interface. (you can see implied volatilities, and the greeks of your own option positions.)
- Futures that settle on BTC price index.
- BTC only platform, no USD required, no bank account required.
- Up to 20x leverage trading bitcoin futures
- Trade vanilla options in a margin account, with up to 10x leverage. (you can sell 10 out of the money calls if you deposit 1 bitcoin)
- Matching engine with less than 1ms latency
- REST, Websockets and FIX API, high performance low latency API with (usually) less than 1ms response time.
- Platform ready for professional market making: sending hundreds of orders per second to the exchange is possible, which is needed to quote all option series. (though we cannot offer this service to all users, the system can offer this to any serious party that needs this bandwidth for market making in options)
- Placing volatility orders (option trading) is built in the core of the platform and available to everybody.
- Placing fixed USD orders for option trading.
- Real-time riskmanagement with smart auto liquidation striving to get user position Delta Neutral.
- Robust and transparant BTC index, based on USD exchanges (a mix of the 5 bigger USD-BTC exchange)
- Majority of BTC in cold storage, but a small percentage remains on our servers to be able to provide immediate withdrawals in most cases.
- Starting with a 100BTC insurance fund and any bankrupties are visible for all users in real time on our Insurance Page.
- Bankrupties are very unlikely due to real time risk management where all user accounts get checked at least once per second.
- Real-time streaming data. All data you see everywhere on the platform is real-time streamed to you via Websockets.

What is not yet implemented but on our roadmap?
- Portfolio margining for professional traders
- Normal margin calculations that takes into account option combinations. (spreads, condors, etc)
- Implied volatility scanner for finding cheap or expensive options based on user settings
- Bulk orders for professional traders. (though even currently processing orders one by one
- Order book for combination orders (options).
- Sub accounts: use subaccounts for individual strategies

Some screenshots:
http://i.imgur.com/TC1kb9k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IBe9vFG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NhLHWf9.jpg



Senza commissioni fino alla fine dell'anno 2016:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitcoin-futures-and-options-exchange-deribit-announces-zero-fee-trading-300353787.html
287  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Deribit.com: BTC Options and Futures Exchange launched on: October 31, 2016, 04:01:20 AM
Without fees until the end of the year.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bitcoin-futures-and-options-exchange-deribit-announces-zero-fee-trading-300353787.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5a1wex/interview_with_john_jansen_ceo_of_deribit_bitcoin/
It seems that US customers are allowed now.

I haven't any connections with them.
288  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [CHAT] Telegram e voice chat su Discord - Vieni anche tu! - http://j.mp/btc-ita on: October 30, 2016, 10:22:47 AM
Aggiunta nuova chat:

- Bitcoin - Faucet e ref link - Gruppo dedicato alla criptovalute e alla promozione di faucet e ref link
289  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Multibit venduto a Keepkey,è ancora affidabile? on: October 30, 2016, 02:15:57 AM
Multibit è sempre stato un sistema privato Cheesy
290  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Guida al hard fork di Bitcoin (nel caso capiti) - IMPORTANTE on: October 30, 2016, 02:14:29 AM
Aggiunti, con riserva
- Trezor
- Ledger

Ciao, dato che ho ledger nano, che verifiche è  necessario fare  per capire se è  ok? Se vuoi posso provare io, devo verificare se posso esportare la chiave privata?
Dovresti provare ad andare a scrivere il seed qui, cioè la lista di parole:
https://iancoleman.github.io/bip39/

E vedere se escono fuori indirizzi bitcoin che hai già visto.

La cosa migliore è che scarichi la pagina e la esegui offline.
291  Local / Progetti / MOVED: Cerco sito di scommesse online con admin italiano. on: October 29, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
This topic has been moved to Gambling (Italiano).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1664701.0
292  Local / Beni / MOVED: [OFFRO][ESCROW] Servizi di mappatura su OpenStreetMap on: October 29, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
This topic has been moved to Servizi.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=247643.0
293  Local / Off-Topic (Italiano) / Re: Verse.com - Instant payments on: October 29, 2016, 08:49:05 AM
Attualmente è presente un sistema ref "limitato".
Nel senso che avete un numero di ref/inviti limitati da usare.

Un utente, dopo essersi iscritto, può inserire il codice, e riceverà 1 euro gratuitamente (lui, e l'utente fornitore del codice)

Ma dopo questo passaggio, il detentore del codice perde l'invito, e il codice non è più valido fintanto che, almeno secondo quanto scritto, a random non viene risorteggiato per ricevere un altro invito usabile.

Per questo, e soltanto in questo caso, è permessa la segnalazione da parte vostra dei vostri codici, in modo che se l'utente ne prova uno, e non funziona, potrebbe provare con gli altri sotto.

La regola può cambiare da un momento all'altro, attendo di vedere il risultato di questa cosa.


Inizio con il mio codice: Z4VLGM


Nell'app dovrete andare in "Promozioni", e inserirla li.

E' probabile che vi dirà che non ci sono inviti, provate con altri codici messi da altri utenti.

294  Local / Alt-Currencies (Italiano) / Re: Zcash, la moneta del futuro! on: October 28, 2016, 04:40:20 AM
Domani dovrebbe essere su questi exchange:
https://www.therocktrading.com/
https://poloniex.com
https://www.kraken.com/

I futures li trovate già qua:
https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/ZECZ16

E anche ovviamente su: https://bitsquare.io/
295  Local / Alt-Currencies (Italiano) / Re: Zcash, la moneta del futuro! on: October 28, 2016, 01:10:46 AM
Ho creato un gruppo su facebook su zcash, a chi interessa:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/zcashitalia/
296  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [PRIVACY] Come ottenere maggiore privacy: mixer, exchange adatti, suggerimenti on: October 27, 2016, 07:29:53 AM
Altra guida eng per altro mixer

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/10/27/use-bitcoin-mixer-bitcloak/
297  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: Acquisto Bitcoin in contanti in modo anonimo su Purse.io con buoni Amazon on: October 26, 2016, 04:22:15 PM
Cambiato il titolo della discussione, visto che non sono mai richiesti documenti da nessuna parte Smiley
"Acquisto Bitcoin in contanti in modo anonimo su Purse.io con buoni Amazon"
298  Local / Off-Topic (Italiano) / Joinverse.com - Instant payments - Ricaricabile con carte (promo 1 euro gratis) on: October 26, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
http://joinverse.com

Altro servizio simil-paypal per inviarsi pagamenti.

I soldi vengono presi dalla carta di credito/debito che aggiungete, apparentemente senza alcuna commissione!
Ho fatto giusto una prova con 1 euro, e non mi ha preso altro dalla carta.

Si può aggiungere anche il proprio conto corrente, e versare i soldi che si ricevono li sopra.

Dalle FAQ https://joinverse.com/en/faq/
Quote
I paid the wrong person!
When you send a payment on Verse, the funds are instantly sent. If you sent the payment to someone who has a Verse account, send them a request for an amount equal to your mistaken payment along with a note about why you are sending the request. As soon as they accept the request, the funds will automatically be added back to your Verse balance.

If the other user is not accepting your request, please contact us and we’ll do our best to help you get the situation straightened out.​ Verse Support cannot cancel the payment you made, we can only reverse the payment with permission from both parties.
Sembra che non sia possibile il chargeback, ci credo pochissimo Cheesy

Nel caso fosse vero, potrebbe essere un buon modo per fare compra/vendita di bitcoin.

Limiti

Senza verifica si possono inviare solo 400 euro l'anno.
Con verifica 10000 euro l'anno.

Quote
7.7. Limits

The User may implement the payment operations governed by these Conditions up to a limit of 400 Euros (or equivalent foreign currency amount) per year for accumulated payments made from or received into their payment account.

To exceed this limit, the User’s identity must be verified using authoritative documents, upon the implementation of said verification, the new limit will be 10,000 Euros (or equivalent foreign currency amount) per year for accumulated payments made from or received into their payment account.

The monthly limit on Card transactions shall be notified to the User at the time of issue.
299  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: Acquisto Bitcoin con contanti su Purse.io usando buoni Amazon on: October 26, 2016, 06:46:21 AM
Cercando un attimo su google, vedo che ci sono diverse offerte per sconti o buoni, alcuni da ricevere anche solo acquistando altri prodotti sempre su amazon.
Alcuni sono offerte di sconti solo per certi tipo di prodotto, ma nel caso qua https://app.purse.io/earn#country=IT si trovi qualcosa che ricada in quelle categorie, magari si riesce facilmente a comprare veramente bitcoin sotto al prezzo di mercato.

Non vorrei illudere nessuno, ma un'occhiata a chi ha tempo consiglierei di guardarci.

Ad esempio ho trovato questi:
http://www.codicesconto.com/scheda_negozio.asp?id=275
http://sconti.corriere.it/codice-sconto-amazon
300  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: Acquisto Bitcoin con contanti su Purse.io usando buoni Amazon on: October 25, 2016, 08:21:53 PM
@gregory021998
Ottimo, allora questa guida piacerà sicuramente a tanti Smiley
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