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21  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Anywhere I can get old historical data on the number of nodes? on: June 22, 2015, 03:39:48 AM
So I know that bitnodes has been monitoring the network for quite some time, however their website only displays data from the last 365 days. Any way to look at older data?

I know it's been discovered that the old stats weren't valid but if you're still interested in seeing what the site looked like back in 2013, you could try browsing the archives at the Internet Wayback Machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

The earliest snapshot is from June 2013 and shows that there were 470,000 nodes at the time (again, this was from back when the stats weren't valid):

http://web.archive.org/web/20130609095243/http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

If Bitnodes only started showing accurate stats from late December 2013 onwards, then this snapshot from February 2014 is probably the earliest accurate one:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140223062642/http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/
22  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where can I invest? on: June 22, 2015, 02:56:53 AM
i think the best way to invest your money in real estate,anymore dont put all of your eggs on one basket so spread it another to like bitcoin,altcoin,gold,oil maybe and the other,decision is yours

Real estate is really the best way. I mean, ask all those people in Florida that lost millions in the housing bubble. Oh, and California. Oh, and Hawaii. Oh, and (insert tons of other states here).

True, But heck in investments its always a gamble. Some will win and some will lose

all investments have some sort of risk, its about getting what edge you can over the long term; a dice site's bankroll for example, should increase over time given the house edge. for this reason, I sometimes tend to put some coin into dice sites, and so far theyve been growing decently well.

Keep in mind that:

a.) even though dice sites are meant to be profitable in the long run, it's quite possible that a whale could come in and devastate the bankroll in the short term. It happened with nakowa in the case of Just-Dice, for example.

b.) there are currently very few (if any) trustworthy dice sites out there that offer an investment option. The only one that is universally considered to be trustworthy by the community is Just-Dice (since Primedice doesn't offer the ability to invest in its bankroll). And even Just-Dice doesn't accept investments in BTC - only CLAMs. Several dice sites that offered investments in the past have collapsed or disappeared with their investors' funds including Dicebitco.in and dice.ninja. In fact, once the risk of the dice site collapsing or disappearing is factored into the calculations, the long term expected rate of return for dice sites as a whole might even be negative.
23  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Gamestop/EBGames Reward Cards $1.75 per $5! on: June 22, 2015, 02:41:46 AM
Would these work in physical EB Games stores in New Zealand? If so, then I might be interested.

EDIT: I'm guessing that the value in USD would be converted into NZD?
24  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to become an escrow? on: June 22, 2015, 02:17:49 AM
Actually there have been cases of people acting as successful escrows who had little to no trading history. But even in those cases, they were usually already hero or legendary members (or a senior member at the very least) and/or had been involved within the community in some other way. For instance, Carra23 managed the Cryptomine.io signature campaign earlier this year and escrowed 7 BTC of funds and did the job very well. redsn0w had virtually no trading history when he began offering his escrow services but he was already well known as a moderator in two other forums. CrackedLogic also ran a relatively successful escrow service despite having little trading history at the time.

As others have said, however, there are very highly trusted users out there who have done many trades over many years who offer their services for free (although usually with tips). To the OP; even if your service had zero fees, it would be difficult to find people interested in using it since you are a full member with almost no trading history. With a fee, it would be damn near impossible.

Escrowing is not too peofitable unless you are extremely trusted and even then its still hardly profitable, you could start giving loans to people on the lending section to build trust and to also get a good profit but always use escrow and ask for collateral

Just a word of warning, though; some people frown upon taking out loans just to build one's reputation.
25  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Woman Deemed World's Oldest Person Dies at 116 in Michigan on: June 22, 2015, 01:12:39 AM
There are only two living people now who were born in the 19th century - both of whom were born in 1899. Just two years ago, that number was six. It's likely that there will be nobody born in the 19th century who is still living in a year or two from now. Sad

Surely it's just a genetic lottery win? Humans certainly aren't designed to live that long and people with perfectly respectable lifestyles drop dead in their 50s and 60s every day.

I am not sure whether the secret for longevity lies in the genes or in the lifestyle. But you can't say that humans aren't designed to live that long. There are references from 400 or 500 year ago, about people living up to 100 year or more. As the living standards increase, along with the advancement in the medical science, longevity will increase further.
There are some physiological limits. Approximated limit of average lifespan is about 250 years. If we solve genetic issues then there still would be another limitation due to nature of our brain. To be exact, there is no possibility to remember more than 4000-5000 years of living experience. You won't die but you'll forget anything what happened before last 4000-5000 years of your hypothetically unlimited life. And there will be no way to recover these memories.

Where did you get that number from? Even with huge advances in medical technology and a significantly larger population, the maximum lifespan of humans seems to have a hard limit of about 120 years - not 250. The oldest people today aren't significantly older than the oldest people who lived 100, 200, or 300 years ago even though far more people are now reaching old age than previously. Jeanne Calment was the only person to live past 120 years and she was definitely an outlier.

The same pattern can be seen with animals too. For example, there are several dogs that have reached 27-29 years of age, but none so far have reached 30.

A cure for all cancers (ignoring the fact that cancer is a collection of diseases with a myriad of causes far too complex to have a single cure) would increase the average lifespan by approximately 10 years. Curing heart disease would probably increase it by another 10 years. But even with the average lifespan at close to 100, I would still expect the oldest humans living in such a world to be no older than 120 years old.
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: From 370,000 Full Bitcoin Nodes to 6,000: What happened? on: June 22, 2015, 12:34:01 AM
Earlier running a full node was the only way to have a wallet. Now, there are many lightwight clients and online wallets to give people the ease of use. Naturally people have stopped running a full node. Now-a-days full nodes are mainly run by those who need it, i.e. business to verify their Tx and miners. There are few volunteers who run full node though.

Earlier running a full node was the only way to have a wallet. Now, there are many lightwight clients and online wallets to give people the ease of use. Naturally people have stopped running a full node. Now-a-days full nodes are mainly run by those who need it, i.e. business to verify their Tx and miners. There are few volunteers who run full node though.

Very good point. Back then Bitcoin QT was basically Bitcoin within itself, now no one wants to use it because it's a pain in the ass. The increasingly demand on the computer to deal with the ever growing Blockchain doesn't give people an incentive big enough to use it. Plus it's very limit within its features. Has no HD addresses, there's no way to sort out addresses, you need a backup everytime you create a new address.. it needs a lot of work to make people come back to it so we can increase the nodes again.

According to the OP's chart, the change happened between May 2013 and June 2015. Lightweight wallets were already fairly commonplace by 2013. For instance, Electrum and MultiBit - the two most popular lightweight wallets for desktops, as well as Blockchain.info - the most popular web wallet, were all released in 2011.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Primecoin on: June 18, 2015, 09:58:45 AM
Yeah, it's a pretty big increase from just a few days/weeks ago:



Lots of volume too. Could it be a single person buying all the XPM? I sure wish I didn't sell the few XPM I had in the beginning of the year now. Sad

Primecoin has always taken a back seat to Peercoin as being Sunny King's "other" altcoin. At $10 million, PPC still has a much larger market cap than XPM but it seems that the price of PPC has only slightly moved upwards while XPM's price increased by x10:



According to a source called Inside Bitcoins, it could just be another pump and dump like the one we saw with Vertcoin a while back or it could be a sign of something very exciting to come:

Quote from: Inside Bitcoins
With the two leading markets for Primecoin both being Chinese-based, paired with the fact there was such explosive growth in both price and volume over the last 7 days, market manipulation based on insider information is a strong contender for why Primecoin is moving the way it is.

Quote from: Inside Bitcoins
With the latest submission on Primecoin’s subreddit being a month old, and with its Twitter lacking substantial news updates, it seems that buyers are accumulating Primecoin for something big in the next couple of weeks, or are just looking to make a quick buck from the standard pump and dump scheme.

Link: http://insidebitcoins.com/news/bitcoin-market-wrap-up-67-614-btc-reverses-trend-vtc-goes-down-xpm-in-its-prime/33156

Riecoin is another coin that is similar to Primecoin in that it uses a mining algorithm based on prime numbers although it's not directly based on XPM. Looking at the charts on CMC, it also seems to be following the same pattern as XPM:



No idea. Datacoin next.

Funny that you mention Datacoin, since it's actually one of the few rare coins that are based on Primecoin. DTC happens to be one of my favorite "dead" coins as well. It had a very innovative idea but it could have been implemented better and it's quite unfortunate that the dev abandoned the project early on. I still have a few DTC on Bter but unless the coin gets pumped, I doubt they'll ever be worth much. Sad
28  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Imagine in 1990's that all emails should have a paid postage stamp... on: June 17, 2015, 04:48:08 PM
Funnily enough, much of the early research that went into the design of Bitcoin and the concept of cryptographic money was born out of anti-spam measures designed to introduce a cost to sending emails. Cheesy
29  Economy / Gambling / Re: UK Gambling Commission says UK based sites need a license! on: June 17, 2015, 07:30:40 AM
Why is a casino's license significant to you when you want to gamble with bitcoin? I don't think that bitcoin casinos take steps towards being licensed. Provably fair gambling is the way to go. As of the legality, in most regions and countries it isn't illegal to gamble with bitcoin because of the lack of laws about it. Until this changes, we're probably not going to see many bitcoin casinos being blocked.

Most don't, but there is at least one Bitcoin casino which is licensed. BitDice.me recently registered as a legally incorporated and licensed gambling operation in Costa Rica:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1090627

However, the benefits for end users might not be that great because if the site gets hacked or otherwise loses its funds, then the site's liabilities will shift from that of the owner to the corporation:

Any lawyer worth his salt will probably tell you to have a third party agent incorporate a casino on your behalf. Incorporating does very little for the actual user, it does help the owner establish a banking connection/trust and cash out though.

I think incorporation actually reduces the protection of investors/gamblers as the liaibility is shifted from operator to company. That being said it's a wise decision to incorporate but I can't personally see any reason for it benefiting users. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.

This means that when you incorporate a company/business in this way, in most cases, the liabilities will be shifted from the owners onto the corporation itself. So if/when the site gets hacked, or something similar causes the site to lose money then the owners would not be responsible, the corporation itself will need to bear the losses.

The owners would have this protection while still keeping the benefits of getting to keep any profits that are not reinvested into their company.

Assuming their security is strong enough to prevent people with malicious intent from stealing from the site, and assuming the owners are acting in an honest manner, then it will most likely have no visible effect on players/investors.

Out of interest, what would actually happen if you decided to continue to accept UK IPs on offshore servers without a UK gambling license?

Legal actions will be taken no doubt about that and if a legal actions is taken on these unlicensed gambling sites than it will get them much more lost then their decision to stop accepting bets from the UK based players.
Basically unlicensed means illegal and everything that illegal will be seized down also that affiliates that promotes an unlicensed gambling sites are also at risk by this point if they UK gambling comission decided to take legal actions

I found the post below from an earlier thread. The info is a bit old and deals with fiat-denominated online gambling sites but if you agree with the OP's position that it doesn't matter whether a site uses BTC or fiat, then it's probably worth reading (emphasis not mine):

Any country with legal online gambling should be fine, UK could be one place.

This is completely false.

Seems there's a lot of misinformation and basic misunderstandings here. Whenever I see this topic come up in the non-BTC gambling world, I see the same vague and incorrect suggestions over and over.

Just because online gambling is legal in a country does not mean you can host an unlicensed site there. The UK has a very strict licensing regiment with master licenses costing around £500,000 per year. Hosting unlicensed games on a server there is a quick way to get booted by your hosting company who is required to comply with UK law.

It is, however, legal to serve games from offshore into the UK, if they are legal in the country where they're hosted. The key here under UK law is "where the bet is struck". The bet is considered to be struck where the server is. Since the UK abides by international trade laws (which the US refuses to sign onto), they have to allow their citizens to strike bets in another country so long as those bets are legal under that country's law.

Now here's where it gets interesting. There is no jurisdiction on earth where it's legal to host an online gambling site without a government-issued license, except for Costa Rica. Costa Rica requires something called a "data-processing license" but it is not strictly a license (more a way of incorporating) and is not subject to gambling regulation as such. The reason for this is that, for historical reasons and thanks to a byzantine Napoleonic legal structure, Costa Rica contradicts the rest of the world (except, interestingly, the United States) and considers the bet to be struck on the user's computer, not where the servers are. So they see nothing wrong with hosting a casino there. What you're not allowed to do in Costa Rica, if you host there, is take Costa Rican players. Because then you'd be breaking their law by running an on-shore casino. Funky, right?

It is certainly illegal to host a gaming site in Ireland without an Irish gaming license (this came into force several years ago; before that Ireland had no specific legislation on it and it wasn't prosecuted).

However, the vagaries of where a bet is "struck" leave open a number of interesting loopholes for the clever site operator. For example, some countries which require a license to host gambling have various amnesties in their laws to attract business, which allow back-office operations to be run there, even downloads to be served there, so long as the bet isn't struck there. Some will consider the location of the RNG to be where the bet is struck, and others consider it to be where the player connects to the game server (assuming those are two different machines). Hosting in Costa Rica is enormously expensive, the bandwidth is terrible and the service is nonexistent. So many companies host their primary website there and serve the games elsewhere.

The ONLY way you can be sure that what you're doing in a particular country is legal is to hire a gambling attorney in that country to advise you and, if possible, put an opinion on it in writing. The safest route for a casino not willing to pay for a governmental license is to get incorporated in Costa Rica for $1000 or so and serve the games and RNG from there; and then put your non-gambling stuff like videos, graphics, sounds, etc. on faster servers wherever you want. I like http://nohostsland.com for finding servers in odd parts of the world. But DO NOT consider sticking gambling services on one of these VPS's, or on a server anywhere in the EU without a proper license from the country you're serving from.

If you have the money, some countries which offer packaged license/hosting/banking arrangements are: Malta, Curacao, the Isle of Man, Kahnawake (First Nations, Canada), Belize, Antigua; and on the top shelf, the UK, Australia, France and Italy (primarily for domestic markets).

Also be aware that the UK classifies two types of offshore casinos: Those licensed in the EU or with a country whose gaming regime is recognized by the EU (e.g. Curacao), and those not recognized (e.g. Costa Rica). While it is not illegal for a Costa Rica casino to take UK players, it is illegal in the UK for Costa Rica based casinos to advertise in print, on radio or television. Again, lots of rules, so the best advice? Lawyer up and don't take advice that could land you in jail from anonymous people on the internet.
30  Economy / Services / Re: Coinomat.com - Signature Campaign! [STARTED] on: June 15, 2015, 11:06:12 AM
I've been away for a few days but have a bit more time to post now. The new signatures look quite nice. I just updated mine today. I entered my UID into the system and everything seems to be working well from here. Smiley
31  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Video: Exponential Technologies | Peter H. Diamandis on: June 01, 2015, 07:05:26 PM
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In 2010 the average computer was calculating at 100 billion calculations per second, which is more computational power than we had in the entire US Space programme in the 60's and 70's. In 2023, eight years from now, the average thousand dollar computer that you will go down to the store and purchase is calculating at 10 to the 16 cycles per second. That's just a number unless you speak to a neurophysiologist who tells you it's the rate at which your visual and auditory cortex does pattern recognition. So what happens when a thousand bucks buys you the computational power of the human brain? 25 years later a thousand dollar computer will buy you the computational power of the whole human race.

Speaking as a long-term transhumanist, it's unknown whether or not progress in computing (i.e. Moore's law) will follow the same trend after 5-10 years from now. We are rapidly approaching the limits of conventional silicon-based technologies which have formed the basis of our exponential trend since the 1950's. Kurzweil argues that once we reach this wall, another paradigm will simply take over in the same way ICs replaced transistors which replaced discrete transistors which in turn replaced vacuum tubes but the alternatives that we've got so far seem to be far away from commercialization.

That isn't to say that it will never be achievable. I'm sure it will happen eventually. The very existence of our brain is proof that the barriers won't be insurmountable.



Why would a transhumanist trust technologies others humans make with closed codes and patented inventions to be part of the living fabric of their existence? Have you heard of Deere and their patented farming machines?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1034731.0


You will become someone else's product eventually if transhumanists don't bet on open sourced future tech-enhanced life widgets, gadgets and services...




Interesting article. I'm all for open source in fact. Cryptocurrencies and security software are open source for a very good reason and I'd expect any enhancement technologies which significantly impact our way of life would follow the same principles as well.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Why don't more coins release lightweight wallets? on: June 01, 2015, 04:22:32 PM
...and which coins currently have lightweight wallets such as Electrum and MultiBit for them?

Part of the reason why people keep their altcoins on exchanges is because it can be a huge hassle to download clients and blockchains for every single coin. Some coins like the CryptoNote coins also have very large blockchains because of the way they're designed.

I know Litecoin has Electrum-LTC and Dogecoin has MultiDoge and Electrum Doge. I think NXT and FIMKrypto also have a lightweight wallet built for them (Mofowallet?). Are there any other examples out there?
33  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT, you dont have to choose NOW. Dont bother with the poll.... on: June 01, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
Moving to the new fork does this mean the 21 million coins are raised?

No the 21 million coins limit stays exactly the same whatever happens. Nothing's going to change that limit.

Actually, the 21 million coin limit can be raised at any time, and most probably will be in the future.

That would be a instant nail in the coffin for Gavincoin.
Look, I think we need to do something about the blocksize, and maybe unless someone comes up with something better, we'll need to modify the blocksize, but forking it to 20MB does shit nothing, we'll meet the same dead end in the future. What we need is doing something scalable. A fork for 20MB is not scalable. Staying 1MB is equally stupid.
But the total supply will always be 21, unless you want an instant dump of epic proportions.

I agree that a variable block size limit which scales according to the needs of the network would be preferable to one that is fixed since the latter is only really a temporary fix, as you said. Problem is, that's easier said than done and the proposals that we've seen so far have been shown to be far from perfect and tend to come with a host of problems of their own (e.g. miner collusion).

Gavin also touched briefly on this subject in one of his blog posts:

Quote from: Gavin Andresen
Dynamic limits

One very popular idea is to implement a dynamic limit, based on historical block sizes.

The details vary: how often should the maximum size be adjusted? Every block? Every difficulty adjustment? How much of an increase should be allowed? 50% bigger? Double?

If the block size limit is just a denial-of-service prevention measure (preventing a big, evil miner from producing an 11 gigabyte block that the rest of the network is forced to validate), then any of these proposals will work. Engineers could bike-shed the parameter choice to death, but I like the idea of a simple dynamic limit on the maximum allowed size.

There are more complicated proposals for a dynamic block size limit that (for example) involve proof-of-stake voting or linking the maximum block size to the mining reward and/or the amount of fees in a block. I like them less than a simple solution, because consensus-critical code must be absolutely correct, and every additional line of code is another opportunity for a chain-splitting bug to slip through code review and testing...

Link: http://gavinandresen.ninja/bigger-blocks-another-way
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT, you dont have to choose NOW. Dont bother with the poll.... on: June 01, 2015, 02:41:24 PM
If Bitcoin XT is launched it will become the dominant one.

No pool, no exchange, no business or no person will keep any substantial amount of coins in any wallet which is outdated.

Further more as soon as the XT client is released, there will be an immediate fear of accepting any coin that was generated "post split".


If any one large pool and I suspect most will switch, the domino effect will be fast and furious.

This argument is over as a large majority will switch to any new client that is an update and endorsed by Gavin.



~BCX~



This. The distribution of Bitcoin nodes doesn't really reflect the distribution of the Bitcoin community since many (most?) users don't run full nodes nowadays and major exchanges and mining pools would hold most of the power in the event of a hard fork anyway.

Moving to the new fork does this mean the 21 million coins are raised?

No the 21 million coins limit stays exactly the same whatever happens. Nothing's going to change that limit.

Actually, the 21 million coin limit can be raised at any time, and most probably will be in the future.

It's not really a fair comparison, although I understand what you're saying.

Virtually nobody would support a fork that increases the total number of coins. On the other hand, increasing the maximum block size isn't a question of "if" but "when". According to Satoshi, if Bitcoin is to ever reach the transaction volume that is expected of a major currency and scale as a payment system that can rival the current alternatives out there then it will need to accommodate a blockchain expansion rate that is much greater than today (the other alternative would be to increase dependence on centralized off-chain payment processing methods for smaller transactions which brings about a whole new set of problems):

Quote from: satoshi
Long before the network gets anywhere near as large as that, it would be safe for users to use Simplified Payment Verification (section eight) to check for double spending, which only requires having the chain of block headers, or about 12KB per day.  Only people trying to create new coins would need to run network nodes.  At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to specialists with server farms of specialized hardware.  A server farm would only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with that one node.

The bandwidth might not be as prohibitive as you think.  A typical transaction would be about 400 bytes (ECC is nicely compact).  Each transaction has to be broadcast twice, so lets say 1KB per transaction.  Visa processed 37 billion transactions in FY2008, or an average of 100 million transactions per day.  That many transactions would take 100GB of bandwidth, or the size of 12 DVD or 2 HD quality movies, or about $18 worth of bandwidth at current prices.

If the network were to get that big, it would take several years, and by then, sending 2 HD movies over the Internet would probably not seem like a big deal.

Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PMC] Premine Coin | Rare | Mining Transaction Fee Proof of Concept on: June 01, 2015, 12:46:57 PM
Is this coin dead, or what's the status?

The coin is pretty much dead since it has been replaced by PMP. There was an opportunity to swap your old PMC coins to PMP coins but that opportunity is no longer available. Unfortunately, PMP's market cap isn't looking to healthy either according to the latest figures from CMC (link). Sad

Their new thread is here:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673760
36  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is Blockchain.info the only online wallet where you have control over your keys? on: June 01, 2015, 11:05:01 AM
https://www.coinbase.com/multisig

No other online wallets AFAIK.

Ah, thanks for that link. I completely forgot about Coinbase. I was never really into them that much since they were always more geared towards US-based customers and I've heard stories of them suspending accounts because they were associated with gambling. Sad
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top Cryptocurrencies (Based on Funding) with Charts. Do Your Research. Make Informed Decisions on: June 01, 2015, 08:25:10 AM
out of all those coins. it seems nxt had the least funding at 21 btc. why is it that certain coins even with alot of funding doesn't even come close to what nxt has so far? im really curious to why this is.... is it really not the funding that plays a factor? so what is it? i mean all those coins have talented devs too.

The NXT IPO happened during a completely different time vs. the IPOs which came after it so they're not really comparable. NXT was the first IPO coin in existence and the success of the NXT IPO for its initial investors is the main reason why IPOs since then have been so huge in the first place.

NXT was also pretty much the first 2.0 platform as well which gave it a massive head start back when there were very few other competitors around and those that did exist were still under development (eMunie anyone?). Back then, most coins were just scrypt and SHA-256 clones based on Litecoin/Bitcoin with a logo stamped on top. NXT succeeded because BCNext created an innovative product with innovative features but few people took notice of it or believed its claims when it was first announced.

Lastly, there is also jl777. He's not a core dev but instead, he develops services that exist on top of the core protocol. jl777's assets have popularized the asset exchange and in turn developed it into NXT's greatest strength. Without him, NXT probably wouldn't be as successful as it is today.
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: In 2012, bitcoin remained at roughly $5 for four months on: June 01, 2015, 07:57:35 AM
This period of remarkable stability was known as "$5 forever"

yeah but it was in the same range for many other month, basically from late 2011 to all the 2012 until the halving, so something much worse than now, compared to that time the current price stagnancy is still a joke

The period of price stagnancy that immediately followed the June 2011 crash lasted for about 1.5 years from a low of $2-3 in October 2011 to $5 in the beginning of 2012 and $13 by the end of 2012. After 2013, the price started increasing fairly quickly and reached $265 in April 2013. The range ($2 to $13) is comparable to the range between November 2013 and today ($1,300 to $200) so volatility-wise, things back then weren't that much different compared with today.
39  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Silk Road Operator Ross Ulbricht to Be Sentenced Today on: June 01, 2015, 07:49:10 AM
Imagine this : an illiterate druglord from Harlem/Brooklyn pleads guilty and gets 20-30 years in prison and an educated guy who tries to fight the system (even though he was guilty in my opinion) gets life in prison without the possibility of parole...

who is more useful to society ?

the illiterate/retarded/ drug dealer from Harlem who in 20 years would be just as retarded as before with slim chances of rehabilitation, or an educated guy who in 20 years from now might have something to give back to society : such as advices to young men following in his footsteps...he could lead some really interesting seminaries and help a lot of people along the way to learn from his mistakes but as it turns out he will never have a second chance


The prison system in the US is just wrong...locking people up is not the solution, re-educating them should be a main priority....life in prison for Ross is unfair to say the least...the 20 years prison sentence would've been more appropriate but the US judiciary system has no interest in rehabilitation...

It's not really a question of who is more useful to society though. Governments and those in positions of power have far greater reason to fear the latter type vs. the former.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If you have 30'000$ Cash on: June 01, 2015, 07:26:15 AM
Are the people mentioning Litecoin insane or just bagholders? I could not think of a worse investment (unless you're shorting).

Stick to BTC and if you have to choose an alt, go with NXT. Amazing development and community.

Historically speaking, Litecoin has tended to follow Bitcoin's price trajectory but in a much more exaggerated manner (actually this is true for most altcoins). When Bitcoin went from $13 to $1,200 in 2013 (i.e. a 100x difference), Litecoin went from $0.07 to $48 in the same period (i.e. a 700x difference). When Bitcoin went from $900 to $300 in 2014 (i.e. a 66% drop in value), Litecoin went from $20 to $2 (i.e. a 90% drop in value).

Of course, there is no guarantee that history will repeat itself, and it's possible that LTC prices will continue to fall despite a rising BTC price (certainly the altcoin market is a lot more competitive now compared with 2011-2013 and the development of scrypt ASICs has also eliminated one of Litecoin's main benefits over Bitcoin).
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