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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: September 18, 2018, 10:55:59 AM
I'm wondering how does those crossings are having an effect on the cryptocurrency price when stock market guys is paying attention to the crypto market which is strange for me.
I really do not see anything strange about it. Most stock market traders are seeing a good opportunity in this market and who really would not love that? As far as I can tell, the volatility of this market on its own makes it a very good and enticing space for traders to make a lot of profit from this market in the long run.

A lot has been said about how this market is going to be the future stocks market eventually. We are getting close to those moments and for freedom as well, it shows a good way to go.
This actually brings out the point the more. Although the site is under maintenance and could not see the article written. However it is a good thing to know that we have some crypto fx brokers that are trying to bring an alt to the differences to the whole market which includes crypto, stock and fx.
Also, I still will like to see more reviews on some of these brokers anyway to know if those who have been using their services have some reviews to share within this forum.


Must be their scheduled downtime or an error but the link is live again. You can read through it. And yes I agree fx crypto brokers are bringing healthy competition allowing better conditions to flow in. I really like what coinexx offers and they say their digital contracts allow them to provide such conditions.
2  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 28, 2018, 09:47:51 AM
And to make my point further clear, some crypto fx brokers are actually trying to overcome these differences between crypto market and fx or stock market. 
https://www.financemagnates.com/thought-leadership/coinexx-bridging-fx-and-crypto-industry-with-digital-contracts/
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 28, 2018, 09:31:43 AM
I'm wondering how does those crossings are having an effect on the cryptocurrency price when stock market guys is paying attention to the crypto market which is strange for me.

I believe they are not crossing they are building bridges by introducing these hybrid brokers for stockies and crypto traders to trade together. i think the lure of crypto being fast, efficient, anonymous, decentralized etc etc make it an ideal choice for stock traders to jump in. some want to embrace it for good and some just want to capitalize on it. but whatever the case maybe, its the next reincarnation for stock markets. there are lot of reasons for stock guys to jump in using these hybrid brokers.. to evade regulation, trade on leveraged products, ease of deposit, 24/7 trading and more for freedom  Smiley
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 22, 2018, 06:03:14 AM
hi. That's quite a hard work you put here. Do you know about turnkey forex as I saw them in your list. I recently came across tis broker and trying to find more about them to be sure before I go live. It will be helpful if someone can share some views.


thanks mate. well I don’t have a exp. with turnkey yet, opened a demo account for the list but their trading conditions look good. Even the spreads are commendable I must say. But withdrawals I haven’t done any as not live with them. Even I welcome more opinions on them.
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 21, 2018, 01:22:50 PM
wait what! This broker you are talking of is actually allowing any crypto to be transferred in any wallet without conversions? That’s huge. I want to see it myself. Can you come again with url. I am getting little confused typing Coinexx on google. There seems to be two of them.

yes @PetersonPaul. They allow that. And at no extra costs.  The one I am talking about is https://coinexx.com/ the other one you see is Coinexx.org. that’s fake.
6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 21, 2018, 12:24:51 PM
Thanks for taking the time to put together this list. Another one that offers crypto is ICMarkets, and they've been reasonable in terms of pricing so far. They're also true ECN, which means they compile their prices from their liquidity providers to give the retailer the best one, instead of most brokers who are market makers and take on losing trades for their own gain.

Another consideration is ease of withdrawal. Some brokers make it near impossible for you to cash out once making a profit. That's hard to know for sure so its something you've gotta test in small amounts before committing.

Wise suggestion but I IC makets does not accept  trader from US and Canada… don’t know about their stance on ESMA at the moment will they will eventually hv to comply with that also.. the main focus of the list is to pen down brokers that are trustworthy and take us Canada and EU clients being offshore/unregulated. 

Ah really, I wasn't aware of that. I thought that they did accept Canadian clients but must have been mistaken. I don't know what they are regulated under in Australia, but I would assume it falls under similar parameters?

The problem I have with brokers that are regulated under US/Canadian standards is their huge margin requirements. IC has significantly lower requirements for crypto and forex (I can't remember how much), and standard requirements for other assets.

Has anyone had successful withdrawals from these brokers listed above that they would like to share?



Like I see IC markets have some fan following out there, but ya @adlcrows is right. They don’t offer services in US and Canada and my list criteria include this point too. So I wish I can but I cannot add them in this list right now. That is why I bypass regulations by picking crypto fx brokers who are not restrained by CFTC and other controlling institutions to operate at will. These regulations are doing no good to the trading industry and its time traders should realize that regulations or no regulations don’t matter. Free trading through crypto is the new trend in market.

And talking of withdrawal exp. , well I am with Coinexx and evolve also lately. Opened an account with them while working on this list. Also tried every feature. Both of them offers almost instant withdrawals. I withdrew my first profits from Coinexx in 2 hours and in evolve too it took less than 4 hours. One extra benefit with Coinexx I felt was any to any transfer. I withdrew my BTC into coinbase LTC wallet directly. That was like awesome!
7  Other / Off-topic / Re: good movie with motivation ? on: August 10, 2018, 06:04:19 AM
Hacksaw ridge

I watched Facing the Giants and I was highly motivated. No matter the level of who you are competing with, you just need to believe in yourself and know that there are conquering and winning potentials in you.

I prefer inspirational movies like God's not dead. It will help you to increase you faith to God.


Love those movies guys. <3 How about Courageous? Being Father and Husband are not an easy task but the biggest roles in our life.

movies with motivation is the real tale films. first rate hero films are exquisite but it doesn't provide a motivation thou.

I understand, but Hacksaw Ridge is the real based unbelievable hero story. Shouldn't miss it.
8  Other / Off-topic / Re: Secret of Happiness on: August 10, 2018, 05:51:02 AM
Either you love someone (permanent happiness), or you make money (temporary happiness), there should be no problem.
But if you mix both, "Lover of money", there got to be a RED ALERT.
"Lover of money is the root of all evil."
9  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 08, 2018, 11:35:01 AM
Nice list Robert and ty.. I see more option. Might try them in future.  Good to see whaleclub on your list. I have an account with them for past sometime, they have reasonable trading conditions. I hv a turbo trading ac with them. they offer good leverage but don’t like the interest charges on it.  Another one m looking to try is Fx Choice.
Im planning to withdraw out btc from my whaleclub account hv been reading really scary things online, though my last withdrawal was fine but its been quite some time now since I withdrew funds.

@dauntlessguy well if you like everything about whaleclub, what exacty made you think of leaving them? Just the scary things online or any other specific reason? I have them on my list so little curious to know.
and if interest on leverage is your pbm. There are many brokers listed in the thread with with good conditions & high leverages. You can go for them. FX choice is one good choice Wink it goes without saying don’t forget to do ur research
10  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 08, 2018, 11:33:36 AM
And guys if you have suggestion for me or any experience with the listed brokers, please share and if anyone wants to add any other broker that fits in this list and is credible, i'll be happy to add! Cheers Cool



I know of this off shore broker- finprotrading. Been with them for quite a while. And Yes they recently started accepting cryptos for fund transfer. Good move I would say. Tried the deposits through BTC. And as crypto features, it was more or less instant. Plus the transaction cost is gone. So win- win. Looking at your list, will also try demo on evolve and Coinexx. Let’s see how it goes. Will let you know.


@rage_trader30 Thanks for sharing your experience. Can you tell me more about FinPro trading. I just opened an account with them recently looking at their trading conditions, while working on this list. Will welcome more reviews about them. And yes sure, waiting your exp. about evolve and Coinexx. I have accounts with both of them. Their spreads and execution are pretty well. Just the difference -Coinexx offers more Cryptos to transfer and they have one unique feature of any- to any. Rest I operate trough both.

Anytime @RobertCollins. Yes finpro trading has been pretty good atleast for me. No change in the conditions so far neither hv I sensed anything fishy. And I like their friendly support guys so they are worth a try.


Well if you say so. I added them in my list coz I liked the spreads and other trading conditions. Playing on demo still to see if are actually worth a try. 
11  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 08, 2018, 06:34:12 AM
Thanks for taking the time to put together this list. Another one that offers crypto is ICMarkets, and they've been reasonable in terms of pricing so far. They're also true ECN, which means they compile their prices from their liquidity providers to give the retailer the best one, instead of most brokers who are market makers and take on losing trades for their own gain.

Another consideration is ease of withdrawal. Some brokers make it near impossible for you to cash out once making a profit. That's hard to know for sure so its something you've gotta test in small amounts before committing.

Wise suggestion but I IC makets does not accept  trader from US and Canada… don’t know about their stance on ESMA at the moment will they will eventually hv to comply with that also.. the main focus of the list is to pen down brokers that are trustworthy and take us Canada and EU clients being offshore/unregulated. 
12  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 07, 2018, 08:04:49 AM
Good list will test your brokers and come back.

Hey. Glad you’ll be testing them. Will wait for you to come back.
  Thanx again. BTW what is the diff bet coinexx.com and coinexx.org??

The broker I am talking about in the list is Coinexx.COM. Coinexx.org is a ponzi scheme. Yes people get confused between the two due to similar names but the latter one is a fraud. Use Coinexx.COM for testing.
13  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 02, 2018, 05:22:15 AM
Good list will test your brokers and come back.

Hey. Glad you’ll be testing them. Will wait for you to come back.
14  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: August 01, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
And guys if you have suggestion for me or any experience with the listed brokers, please share and if anyone wants to add any other broker that fits in this list and is credible, i'll be happy to add! Cheers Cool



I know of this off shore broker- finprotrading. Been with them for quite a while. And Yes they recently started accepting cryptos for fund transfer. Good move I would say. Tried the deposits through BTC. And as crypto features, it was more or less instant. Plus the transaction cost is gone. So win- win. Looking at your list, will also try demo on evolve and Coinexx. Let’s see how it goes. Will let you know.


@rage_trader30 Thanks for sharing your experience. Can you tell me more about FinPro trading. I just opened an account with them recently looking at their trading conditions, while working on this list. Will welcome more reviews about them. And yes sure, waiting your exp. about evolve and Coinexx. I have accounts with both of them. Their spreads and execution are pretty well. Just the difference -Coinexx offers more Cryptos to transfer and they have one unique feature of any- to any. Rest I operate trough both.
15  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: July 23, 2018, 01:41:44 PM
And guys if you have suggestion for me or any experience with the listed brokers, please share and if anyone wants to add any other broker that fits in this list and is credible, i'll be happy to add! Cheers Cool




16  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: July 23, 2018, 01:06:38 PM
Thanks for sharing the list here,
I appreciate your efforts, as I am more interested in crypto forex brokers, surely would like to test one of them. Would you please like to mention that on what parameters you have added these brokers in your list, as there are many other crypto brokers as well?  
Just want to be sure about them before going with anyone.


thanks guys.. @F$m@nia well basically i have taken this information from a thread i have been following in this other forum and that thread's pretty well researched cos the community there has tried and tested these brokers. so averaging the review these guys are the ones the fitted the bill. the idea is to list crypto friendly broker as well as the ones that onboard US, Canada and EU guys post CFTC, IIROC and ESMA.  And i have also personally referred to review around these brokers and have found them to be pretty legit. Since i have started using bitcointalk.org more than the other forum, i that i'll pull this list up here for reference and hope it helps the community here. & since they are pro cryptos it made more sense to have this thread here Smiley

FYI @Vic108_btc all of them are negative balance protection brokers.
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / List of Offshore Forex Crypto Brokers ( US & Canada Clients Friendly; Non ESMA) on: July 21, 2018, 11:33:33 AM
Reading through the blog I did not find any list specific to what I was looking. Was really keen on a fx crypto broker list that list down names of brokers that are credible and friendly to clients from US, Canada and now joining the gang Europe guys. So I found this list on another forum and its well researched and tested. Thought will post it here as well so that it helps the community on this forum.

The list has two sections – FX Crypto brokers, who offer crypto denominated account and accept on cryptos as payments and Normal FX Brokers that take fiat payments and also accept BTC and other cryptos as payment methods. 

All these brokers are onboard US, Canadian and Europe guys and have good feedback on forums about them. If the community here feels otherwise or have suggestions, please share. The list is in alphabetical order, not rating or preference wise.
 

FX Crypto Brokers Group: Brokers the offer Crypto Denominated Accounts & Only allow Deposit and Withdrawals In Crypto Currencies
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1broker -
Type: CFD & Social Trading

•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients - Yes
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: BTC, ETH, BCC, LTC, DASH & 15 more
•   Average EURUSD Spread: 0.1 (no proof, its written on their website. No demo available to validate this)
•   Leverage between 20 to 200X & no commissions . Social trading: 2% deducted as a percentage of profit
•   Fees: withdrawal charges: 0.00001586 BTC
•   Platform: Inhouse simple web based platform. No demo offered
•   How to Contact : Email –  support[at]1Broker.com ; Tele No ; Live Chat No
•   Account Opening: No documents required, just open a live account with name and email.   
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Coinexx-
Type: ECN; Offerings:  Forex, Commodities, Indices & Crypto pairs trading offered

•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients - Yes
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: BTC, ETH, BCC, LTC, DASH & 15 more
•   Average EURUSD Spread: 0 -  0.1 pips ; refer to their website for live spreads on homepage
•   Leverage upto 500X  & Commission equivalent to $2/lot
•   Fees: No deposit & withdrawal charges
•   Platform: MT5 – Desktop, Web & Mobile
•   How to Contact : Email – contactus[at]coinexx.com ; Tele: Can call them via their chat app; on request call back ; Live Chat
•   Account Opening: No documents required, just open a live account with name and email. 
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-Evolve Markets:
Type: ECN; Offerings:  Forex, Commodities, Indices & Crypto pairs trading offered

•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients - Yes
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: BTC & LTC
•   Average EURUSD Spread: 0.2 pips; refer to their website for live spreads on homepage
•   Leverage upto 500X  & Commission equivalent to  3,000 bit per lot
•   Fees: No deposit & withdrawal charges
•   Platform: MT5 – Desktop, Web & Mobile
•   How to Contact : Email – support[at]evolve.markets ; Tele: No ; Live Chat – No
•   Account Opening: No documents required, just open a live account with name and email. 
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-whaleclub:
Type: Forex, Stocks, Indices, Commodities and Cryptos (limited instruments)

•   Accepts US clients – No
•   Accepts Canadian & EU clients - Yes
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: BTC, ETH, LTC & Dash
•   Average EURUSD Spread: 14 (0.22%); refer to their website markets page for live spreads
•   Leverage upto 200X  & No Commission. Whaleclub charges spreads only
•   Fees: 0.001BTC for BTC withdrawals, 0.005 for ETH withdrawals, 0.01LTC for LTC withdrawals, and 0.01DASH for DASH withdrawals.
•   Platform: Inhouse simple web based platform
•   How to Contact : Fill a support form to contact. Email – No ; Tele: No ; Live Chat – No
•   Account Opening: No documents required, just open a live account with name and email. 
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“FX Brokers” offering Crypto Trading and/or Crypto Deposit & Withdrawals

Finpro Trading -

•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients - Yes
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: Bank & BTC
•   Average EURUSD Spread: 0.1
•   Leverage:  upto 400X
•   Commission: Standard: $4 per 100k & VIP $2 per 100 RT
•   Fees: no deposit or withdrawal charges; reimburse bank transfer fees for funds over $1000
•   Platform: MT4 - Desktop & Mobile
•   How to Contact : Email – contactus[at]finprotrading.com; Tele:  +44 20 3289 3467; Live Chat 24/5
•   Account Opening Documents : Personal Photo ID and Proof of Address
•   HQ - London, UK
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FX Choice -


•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients - Yes
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: Various options including Cards, wire transfer, BTC, neteller, skrill, etc.
•   EURUSD Spread: 0.5-1.5 pips
•   Leverage: 200:1
•   Commission: $7 per Lot (Pro Account)
•   Fees: Bank ($25) & fees vary .05% to 1% depending  upon the with withdrawal method
•   Platform: MT4 (Desktop, mobile, Web) and MT5 (Desktop & Mobile)
•   How to Contact : Email – info[at]myfxchoice.com; Tele:  +5012272732; Live Chat 24/5
•   Account Opening Documents : Color copy of the front and back of government-issued document.
•   HQ – Belize
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LMFX-

•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: Various options including Cards, wire transfer, BTC, neteller, skrill, etc.
•   Average EURUSD Spread: Premium ( 1 pip); Fixed (1.7 pip) & Zero ( 0 pip)
•   Leverage:  1000:1 (Premium Account); 400:1 ( Fixed); 1:250 (Zero)
•   Commission: premium ( $0); Fixed ($0) & Zero ($4/Lot)
•   Fees: no fees on deposit or withdrawal
•   Platform: MT4, WebTrader
•   How to Contact : Email – support[at]lmfx.com; Tele:  +44 20 3519 2105; Live chat 24/5
•   Account Opening Documents : A Proof of Legal Existence (PLE) and a Proof of Address (POA). The PLE can be a valid Passport, ID card or Driver's License & POA can be utility bill or bank statement
•   HQ – Macedonia
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Turnkey Forex -
 
•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients -
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: Bankwire & BTC
•   EURUSD Spread: Starting from 0.1 pip
•   Leverage:  can upto 400X (negotiable), otherwise 200:1
•   Commission: $2 per $100k
•   Fees: No deposit/withdrawal fees and reimburse bank transfer charges
•   Platform: MT4 Desktop & Mobile
•   How to Contact : Email – contactus[at]turnkeyforex.com; Tele:  +44 20 3287 6032 ; Live Chat 24/5
•   Account Opening Documents : Personal Photo ID and Proof of Address
•   HQ - London, UK
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Trader's Way -

•   Accepts US, Canadian & EU clients - No US
•   Deposit/Withdrawal: Various options including Cards, wire transfer, BTC, neteller, skrill, etc.
•   Average EURUSD Spread: 2 pips
•   Leverage:  1000:1
•   Commission: $2 per $100k
•   Fees: Transaction fees on bank withdrawals and upto 1% on other funding methods
•   Platform: MT4, MT5 and cTrader
•   How to Contact : Email – sales@tradersway.com; Tele:  +18499370815 ; ; Live Chat 24/5
•   Account Opening Documents : Personal Photo ID and Proof of Address
•   HQ – Dominica

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Hope it helps !!!
18  Other / Off-topic / Re: I hate parents who give small kids smartphones to hands on: July 19, 2018, 12:46:34 PM
If we look at this present generation, it's not really okay for kids to use smartphone alone, even when kids don't do such stuffs but advertisement are found everywhere or small interest can take you somewhere wrong.

When you hate parents just because you don't touch smartphone, not only fault goes to your parents but you as well. Parents should have a good relationship with you so that you will never hate them, no matter what. And you, you should listen to your parents because they know well enough how worst it is for such small age.
When you hate your parents, that means you love things and hate humans which is obviously not good for your future. You never want that. Appreciate how they raise you, and be wise enough to choose good friends in school.
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will religion save you? on: July 19, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
(Figuratively) The first letter "R" is perfect and correct, but people can't wait and hurriedly make it religion.
That's what happened in Moses' time when He didn't come back for 40 days, people made golden calf as religion (the very first religion I can say). We know what happened next. [any correction is welcomed]

But in bigger picture, what Moses did was having a personal RELATIONSHIP with God. Not religion. Following laws or practice laws cannot save you when we have Jesus who paid for us, but why it can't save us anymore? Because He sees your heart, not your outward pretending acts. He paid for your sins, and longs to connect with you by your repentance and have a personal relationship with Him. Yet people still find it very hard to follow His first preaching word "repent and be baptized".
That's how majority of Christians bang each other, confused themselves and say it's okay to do this and that because He understands us and wants us to believe in ourselves. The truth is (not from me but the very Bible) that you're not saved.  YET!

Love!
20  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is Your favorite book? on: July 07, 2018, 08:09:24 AM
Killing Kryptonite.

Otherwise for trading, The Intelligent Investor!
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