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1581  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Suretly - het eerste crowdvouching platform ★ICO 11 Juli ★ on: July 09, 2017, 02:04:34 PM
De ICO start aanstaande dinsdagochtend om 08.00u toch? Dan zorg ik dat ik de wekker zet :-)

dinsdag wekker om 08:00  , man dan ben ik allang onderweg naar mijn werk Smiley( yup crypto millionairs hebben andere leven : )) , ik denk dat ik de powerhour ga missen Sad ,maar ik zag dat ik toevallig ook meegedaan heb met PreIco , das mooi meegenomen Smiley



1582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] [ICO] EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 09, 2017, 01:39:49 PM
i just realised that i received the bounty coins. this is a really huge bounty i think. 11591,63985 ETTs. at the current rate of 3000sats this 0.34 btc. just for the sig. you would have to invest about 0.5 BTC to receive this much coins.

and realise if you hodl for this coin and let say in the future ( sooner than you think) 1 ett= $1,-  then your  bounty will be suddenly more than $ 10k  Roll Eyes
1583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] -- VGINA - Windows Wallet with Multisend ----- Bounties Available on: July 09, 2017, 01:36:36 PM
hey Dev ,

any news about this coin ??

1584  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 09, 2017, 01:08:19 PM

this is really so waste of my time...
i do now get why you guys think this way, you only see what YOU wanna see, read what you wanna read.....
what i am telling are being ignored, not read it

again what does the book says and what does the human do , where does the book says you MUST lie

What you are saying is being ignored because we know better. We know there are many diverse opinions among Muslims, and that Fatwas often are contradictory in interpretation. You are just one more religious person that thinks only he and his tribe have the "right way of God."

It's a waste of time if you think people on the Internet are going to believe in your religion, because they will not.

darn ,  i didnt know it was THAT hard to read and understand.......


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What you are saying is being ignored because we know better.

what an bullshit , you dont know anything , you assume you know something and even thats is a lie....

like this , i ask you guys what this verse say about taqiya , and this is the only verse its talking about taqiya in the Quran but no mister does it know better even dodging my question and try to redicoul my question...

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We know there are many diverse opinions among Muslims, and that Fatwas often are contradictory in interpretation. You are just one more religious person that thinks only he and his tribe have the "right way of God."

you know what funny is also , i bet in your eyes i am no real Muslim , cause i reject all second rules ( aka hadiths rules) like the ISIS......

and yet i follow the Quran ......


who can give me honest answer to my next question .....

If the Quran ( you know the SOURCE OF MUSLIM) forbid something and some Muslims doing this forbidding thing also , so who is to blame ....
the Book or the Human Huh??


lets check what kind reply i get ......





1585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 09, 2017, 09:28:34 AM
When will you sent a buy wall for us? I wanna get my investment back. Please add it asap, thanks.

Want to hear the answer too, please tell us, OP. I want to cash out.   Sad Sad

Dated July 5 2017:

"As promised by our CEO Roman, we will set a buy-wall of 200k Waves (~1m$ at this moment) between Waves DEX and Tidex ETH ETT market. Investors who want to sell their tokens will able do so at the static ICO price (0.00004700 BTC). This buy-wall will be active for 2 weeks, or until it is depleted, whichever happens first. This should be happening sometime in the middle of the next week. We will notify all one day before that date".

https://medium.com/@encryptotel/weekly-update-b45e530082e5


This is the reason why I'm buying at low price I think after this buy wall it get stable around 5k easily and we can make easy profit in very short time of period so let's see how this go. This project has good chance to grow more strong.

i think your right, you know what they say :

what aint kill you , makes you stronger Smiley

ett had some starting issue , but when this is over, you get nice solid system ... i beleave in this project
1586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 09, 2017, 08:51:39 AM
When will you sent a buy wall for us? I wanna get my investment back. Please add it asap, thanks.

Want to hear the answer too, please tell us, OP. I want to cash out.   Sad Sad

Dated July 5 2017:

"As promised by our CEO Roman, we will set a buy-wall of 200k Waves (~1m$ at this moment) between Waves DEX and Tidex ETH ETT market. Investors who want to sell their tokens will able do so at the static ICO price (0.00004700 BTC). This buy-wall will be active for 2 weeks, or until it is depleted, whichever happens first. This should be happening sometime in the middle of the next week. We will notify all one day before that date".

https://medium.com/@encryptotel/weekly-update-b45e530082e5


not fudding orso, but is this not littlebit to late ? i mean the bounties are released and if the wall still there , is it not thinkable that the bounty hunters gonna dump at that wall ??
1587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 09, 2017, 08:31:26 AM
....
if you know /knew the Quran from your own research you can see that you are wrong.. the fault you all are making is , you see man-act as religion...

but hey i have no intense to convert you  to anything , if you are happy with your thought so be it , but i hate (as you do ) LIARS and rumorsspreadders. what i oftenly see here ....


...So you hate the practice of Takiyya?

Lying when it benefits Islam? Because there certainly is a lot of that on this thread.

Don't you have to love lying in this circumstance?

Smiley

Maybe it's the truth that others say that you hate. Maybe what you hate is they don't let you get away with all the Takiyya.

really , is it that hard to understand me Huh


what says Quran about taqiyya:
"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for protectors rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully [quran 3:28]

done.... doesnt matter what others say or other books say.. this says the holy Quran .... and is this evil  YES or NO Huh and dont come to me with man-act stories...

So you don't hate Takiyya but consider it holy.

Got it. Holy lying.

By the way, a more complete discussion is here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

A brief excerpt.

In 2004, Lebanese Druze scholar Sami Makarem published the monograph Al Taqiyya Fi Al Islam ("Dissimulation in Islam"), arguing that the concept should be considered "mainstream" and ubiquitous in modern Islamic politics,

    "Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream...Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era." (p. 7, trans. Raymond Ibrahim).


this is really so waste of my time...
i do now get why you guys think this way, you only see what YOU wanna see, read what you wanna read.....
what i am telling are being ignored, not read it

again what does the book says and what does the human do , where does the book says you MUST lie

1588  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 09, 2017, 08:22:50 AM
if you're hating because of terrorism just put in mind that france killed a Million innocent citizen in Algeria in the 50's , USA killed lots of innocent people in her war with Iraq trying to  seize  their oil . Every nation and religion have extremists individuals that you can't control them, so don't let the actions of few hundreds of people makes you hate one Billion muslim around the wrold.

France killed those Algerians because they were fighting against its colonial regime. USA also invaded Iraq to get hold of the oil and natural resources. But the case with Muslims is different. They are killing non-Muslims because they believe in a different religion.

yes spread your lies , go .....

France did genocide... hey but they are not Muslims , so is not bad

USA also invaded Iraq to get hold of the oil and natural resources. But the case with Muslims is different. They are killing non-Muslims because they believe in a different religion. ..... what a lame reaction.... because its America they may do what they want....... making whole country unstable , but they can do it because they not Muslims......

Rwandese genocide is happened whole fucking world looked the other way .......

Bosnian genocide ---> they butchered MUSLIMS but hey it was in the past ( 1995)

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They are killing non-Muslims 
what an dom reply they are killing everyone especially muslim ... but hey doesnt matter who they killing ...their MUSLIM and killing people ......

for the 1000000 time , its the greed of the human kind, its the act of an humankind its an emotinal act of an humankind ......it not the (true)religion who is doing this....

wake up and see the truth ......



1589  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 08, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
....
if you know /knew the Quran from your own research you can see that you are wrong.. the fault you all are making is , you see man-act as religion...

but hey i have no intense to convert you  to anything , if you are happy with your thought so be it , but i hate (as you do ) LIARS and rumorsspreadders. what i oftenly see here ....


...So you hate the practice of Takiyya?

Lying when it benefits Islam? Because there certainly is a lot of that on this thread.

Don't you have to love lying in this circumstance?

Smiley

Maybe it's the truth that others say that you hate. Maybe what you hate is they don't let you get away with all the Takiyya.

really , is it that hard to understand me Huh


what says Quran about taqiyya:
"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for protectors rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully [quran 3:28]

done.... doesnt matter what others say or other books say.. this says the holy Quran .... and is this evil  YES or NO Huh and dont come to me with man-act stories...



1590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] [ICO] EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 08, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
Hi, i finally got my bounty reward for signature campaign. It was a great pleasure to advert so promising project. Hope the price will go to the moon very soon.

great pleasure Smiley, i did wear theire signature less then few weeks .... they sold it the ico very quick.

and i waited from may till now for the bounties Smiley, longest payment ever.... BUT i did get my bounties so it was worth to wait Smiley

thx team for your gift, and let it rise to the moon Smiley
1591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Is there already or will there be in future any sort of "blockexplorer" for tracking waves-generated tokens, ie to see which wallets contain how many of which tokens?
If a dev releases let's say 100 million tokens and sells them in ICO, how would people know what the dev is doing with his unsold tokens, ie if he is dumping them or moving them around or whatever?

There are currently two Waves block explorers you can use to track address activity and transfers:

http://www.wavesgo.com

https://gravit.ws

wow didnt know the https://gravit.ws very nice site....

thx for sharing
1592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 08, 2017, 10:45:26 AM
i hope i will not irritate again, so i am gonna try

i like real debate, but i dont like being insult personally ..OK sorry  Wink..
Your religion still needs to change or be gone ..Grin..[/qoute]

no , people must change, i see nothing bad in my religion

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See you have skipped the bad bit lets debate then and if you cannot debate with real answers then i will probably insult you again ..I will try not to though because you get awfully upset ..

But lets debate..Are these verses in the KORAN yes or no ?..
Now i hate liars and that's why maybe i insulted you  BUT i wont this time..

Is this verse in the KORAN ..YES or NO?[/qoute]

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.[/qoute]

this is not the complete message YES of NO ??


This is a quotation out of context. For the context if you read the first few verse of Surah Tawbah (Chapter 9), they speak about a peace treaty between the Muslims and Mushriks (non-believer) of Makkah. Now this peace treaty was broken by mushriks of Makkah. By the time Allah reaches verse number 5 he gives them ultimatum to the mushriks and tells them put things straight in four months time other wise a declaration of war and in the battle field, Allah says (to the Muslims) when the enemies come to attack you, you kill the enemies.
So this verse is revealed in the battle field that When the enemies come to attack you don't get scared , fight them. But nature any army general today to boost up the morale of his soldiers will say that when the enemies come kill them.

i couldnt better form this.

i wanna bet if i check your countries law book i am gonna find , text like killing - murdering- rape

YES of NO ??


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The Koran's 164 Jihad Verses Excerpt K 2:178-179 Set 1, Count 1+2 ... And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they ... Contact Prayers (Salat) are decreed for the believers at specific times. .... [8.73] Yusuf Ali: The Unbelievers are protectors, one of another:


The Koran's 164 Jihad Verses
1   2:178   26   3:156   51   4:103   76   8:57   101   09:029   126   29:69   151   59:05
2   2:179   27   3:157   52   4:104   77   8:58   102   09:036   127   33:15   152   59:06
3   2:190   28   3:158   53   4:141   78   8:59   103   09:038   128   33:18   153   59:07
4   2:191   29   3:165   54   5:033   79   8:60   104   09:039   129   33:20   154   59:08
5   2:193   30   3:166   55   5:035   80   8:65   105   09:041   130   33:23   155   59:14
6   2:194   31   3:167   56   5:082   81   8:66   106   09:044   131   33:25   156   60:09
7   2:216   32   3:169   57   8:001   82   8:67   107   09:052   132   33:26   157   61:04
8   2:217   33   3:172   58   8:005   83   8:68   108   09:073   133   33:27   158   61:11
9   2:218   34   3:173   59   8:007   84   8:69   109   09:081   134   33:50   159   61:13
10   2:244   35   3:195   60   8:009   85   8:70   110   09:083   135   42:39   160   63:04
11   3:121   36   4:071   61   8:010   86   8:71   111   09:086   136   47:04   161   64:14
12   3:122   37   4:072   62   8:012   87   8:72   112   09:088   137   47:20   162   66:09
13   3:123   38   4:074   63   8:015   88   8:73   113   09:092   138   47:35   163   73:20
14   3:124   39   4:075   64   8:016   89   8:74   114   09:111   139   48:15   164   76:08
15   3:125   40   4:076   65   8:017   90   8:75   115   09:120   140   48:16
16   3:126   41   4:077   66   8:039   91   9:05   116   09:122   141   48:17
17   3:140   42   4:084   67   8:040   92   9:12   117   09:123   142   48:18
18   3:141   43   4:089   68   8:041   93   9:13   118   16:110   143   48:19
19   3:142   44   4:090   69   8:042   94   9:14   119   22:039   144   48:20
20   3:143   45   4:091   70   8:043   95   9:16   120   22:058   145   48:21
21   3:146   46   4:094   71   8:044   96   9:19   121   22:078   146   48:22
22   3:152   47   4:095   72   8:045   97   9:20   122   24:053   147   48:23
23   3:153   48   4:100   73   8:046   98   9:24   123   24:055   148   48:24
24   3:154   49   4:101   74   8:047   99   9:25   124   25:052   149   49:15
25   3:155   50   4:102   75   8:048   100   9:26   125   29:006   150   59:02


Are they in the KORAN..YES or NO..[qoute]

do you know really the meaning of JIHAD ? YES or NO..

The Arabic word "jihad" is often translated as "holy war," but in a purely linguistic sense, the word " jihad" means struggling or striving.and it can refer to internal as well as external efforts to be a good Muslims or believe

but hey this dont fit in your hate campaingne does it ??


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Simple answer that's all you need to say ..

Now if you say the BIBLE has bad stuff in it ok ban that too.. Wink
I don't care it's all fairy tales 21st century and i need proof ..


God said you must give me your BITCOINS ..No you wouldn't believe would you only when it suits you..

No but he did say give popcorn1 all your crypto so you can go to heaven .. Grin

And i will feed the poor      YES i am poor so i will feed myself..

Oh simple YES or NO will be fine..
Yes Koran has good bits in it BUT it has many many bad bits in it too so because it's all fairy tales
what's the point ..


BAD BOOK of stupid lies ..Bible is the same    they all are bullshit..

Now forget your religion and wake up Wink..
You can be nice without preaching BULLSHIT you know..
if you know /knew the Quran from your own research you can see that you are wrong.. the fault you all are making is , you see man-act as religion...

but hey i have no intense to convert you  to anything , if you are happy with your thought so be it , but i hate (as you do ) LIARS and rumorsspreadders. what i oftenly see here ....

1593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 07, 2017, 01:29:45 PM
There are literally 6 ETT tokens on the Waves Lite Client Exchange, which one is the real ETT ??

1: the one with an green mark
2: the real one is
Issuer:   3P33FS5SuJHWXg5QJkDABci1iaFQSa9qsDx
Identifier:   8ofu3VpEaVCFjRqLLqzTMNs5URKUUQMrPp3k6oFmiCc6
Name:   EncryptoTel
Details:   Official token of the Encrypto Telecom company. See www.EncryptoTel.com.
Total tokens:   77663987.00000000
Reissuable:   No
Issue date:   06/06/2017 16:14:01

1594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 07, 2017, 01:28:14 PM
What a Waves Massacre

Always out and in to trade Waves on the wrong moments.

Sold at 50k and the price goes to 280k

Bought at 220k and the price goes to 150k

What the fuck, Waves hate´s me.  Undecided

LOL , you made me laugh while i exactly know what you mean , did happened  to me also,dont sell it again Smiley put it on lease let it work .....

1595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Upcoming Alpha Release on: July 07, 2017, 01:24:30 PM
yesterday I saw a pump from 7500 to 10500 but it couldn't stay over 10k and it afraids people. With alpha release hopefully it wil go up to over 15k again.

when  alpha is succesfull i think its gonna much higher .....

we will see it in few days ( i hope)
1596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 07, 2017, 01:22:08 PM
Oh, I understand what you are trying to tell me quite well. I just know that you have one little set of beliefs in your head about Islam, and other Islamicst have other little sets of beliefs in their heads. Together you are one big unhappy family, fighting and killing each other quite commonly.

Please don't lecture me about your old books, I have read them and may well know more than you do about them. It's very common for devout believers in a religion to know far less about it than an objective athiest.

Facts are unimportant to the believer, and quoting the Koran does not prove anything except to the believer that already believes it. Please don't lecture about the minute differences between people believing in hadiths versus the koran. Here's an interesting group of articles entitled "Games Muslims Play." These cover the arguments you have made in "defending Islam."

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/games/index.aspx

Meanwhile, in June alone, here's your religion's Allah Akbar count.

Attacks    163
Killed    1175
Injured    1382
Suicide Blasts    34
Countries    30



NO you DONT,



i did wrote whole text , to explain it again , and i thought suddenly Huh whyy do i have to repeat my self when they dont wanna listen....


so i removed ......

i am done with this......

go spread your lies and deceptions........



i am reading now this translation of the Quran ..

who really wants to know what Quran says can read this :

https://www.quranite.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Quran-%E2%80%93-A-Complete-Revelation-5i.pdf

1597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 07, 2017, 11:44:58 AM
....

like the reply of spendulus.:
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I'm afraid you don't quite get it, so let me explain. You are only having the chance to discuss "your beautiful religion" because the door to that discussion was opened by....the Islamic terrorist Manchester bomber.

these kind people dont see different between human act and written commands....  i tried to explain, but their brain is so small or damaged they could not understand it , so what does people do when they understand it ..... they being affraid, affraid of not understanding. you guys are so simple ......

Affraid feeling comes most of the time because of the feeling unknow(ing ).....

I think you're the one that's afraid, you are afraid of being rightfully put into a concept of Islam that includes these bombers.  And you don't like the idea that the only reason you're on the Internet talking about Islam is because a suicide bomber opened the door for you.

That's the facts, that's the way it really is, dude. I don't care about your little messages of Allah Ackbar. I'd refuse to listen to them whether or not you were only here because of the bomber.

indeed its your right to listen or not what i have to say ....

i am not affraid, again i see misconceptions ......

again there is not one single vers in Quran about terrorisme ( bombers) allowed in religion.. 


but i see it now , or you guys playing deaf-dump-not seeing or you iq capacity is really that low that you guys dont understand what i try to tell....

you dont even know what a fact is........




1598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 07, 2017, 11:33:32 AM
When will buywall set on tidex? Date and time Please

are you guys that anger , that you even could wait to dump these coins Huh
1599  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 07, 2017, 11:07:46 AM
I don't understand why do we need to hate muslim's? Is it because of their religion or kind of their lifestyle? For me i like them Some muslim's are good,they are kind , and also they are people like us ,so don't hate them. Especially if they do not do anything wrong with you.

because ,

liers and haters like popcorn1 and Spendulus are causing hateric feelings by people .... they dont want peace, they wants just what suits them.

If you don't like popcorn and Spendulus, then debate against them using civil language. Name calling and showering insults is not going to work here. First you need to realize that nothing is above criticism, including Islam and Prophet Mohammed. The best thing to do would be to listen to the criticism and then reform your beliefs.  

you dont knw me at all, yet you think to know what i know or feel .....
i have explained you before the way i am thinking about my religion, but who cares  ....

the way here how it gone is :

i may get insult but i may not insult others ..... so this is the way of debate or discuss here .....


popcorn1:
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insulting others so you will get better feeling..And it looks like it's working Wink..

QUOTE is still mocking , but who cares.. NOW YOUR LEARNING

i like real debate, but i dont like being insult personally ....

i forgot you also to mention also.....

but if i dont get taken serious because i am a beleaver , is this the way to debate / discuss . to mock with your oponent....

i know ( my thinking) my religion beeing hijacked, but the Quran is still untouched .... the message is still there,  its still readable if you know your SOURCE ....

i am telling this to Muslims Also , dont take hadiths as part of the Quran , it isint .


the most error you guys do is looking individual actions....

again the qustions is :

If the books tells me go right and i turn left whoms action is it ......??

thats what you guys do, look and check the people who commit crimes and saying the religion (Quran) says it .......

the problem you guys dont understand is :

Islam is more then 1400 years active, if it were that evil , that thirsth for world domination , why is this not happened???
Ottoman empire rule more then 600 years , Ottomans were Muslims , the counterend countries ,  they could choose, to convert or not ... if not you did pay extra money ect.. but THEY didnt have to give up their language, religion , rituals....  

if its was world domination it would happened a long time ago , but it didnt......
the last 50 years , this whole islam-terrorist has arisen from "islam" before that it were just terrorist... like IRA

i live in a country with free speech, i am happy  to live in this country , cause with this knowledge of mine , i would not live my life in freedom or i would be killed if i prenounce this though in Arab country, but AGAIN this is not part of the religion what Arab countries does do with human rights :

you know what funny is :


check which countries lives according Islam meant....



1600  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 07, 2017, 09:34:04 AM
I don't understand why do we need to hate muslim's? Is it because of their religion or kind of their lifestyle? For me i like them Some muslim's are good,they are kind , and also they are people like us ,so don't hate them. Especially if they do not do anything wrong with you.

because ,

liers and haters like popcorn1 and Spendulus are causing hateric feelings by people .... they dont want peace, they wants just what suits them.

they will lie and mock or insult beleavers or different thinkers....

these men(or womans)  are real evil ones and trying to project their hatred feeling to others.....

they sees man-act as an proof what religion telling.... but their wrong and they now that 2 but its funnier to angry people......

like the reply of spendulus.:
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I'm afraid you don't quite get it, so let me explain. You are only having the chance to discuss "your beautiful religion" because the door to that discussion was opened by....the Islamic terrorist Manchester bomber.

these kind people dont see different between human act and written commands....  i tried to explain, but their brain is so small or damaged they could not understand it , so what does people do when they understand it ..... they being affraid, affraid of not understanding. you guys are so simple ......

Affraid feeling comes most of the time because of the feeling unknow(ing ).....




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