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961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
"Nobody is imposing Bitcoin Cash on you. To avoid it, you need do nothing."
/Roger Ver

"If you use "Bitcoin" as part of the name of this altcoin, you're imposing it on me. That is why I'll make some bitcoins out of your altcoin."
/becoin
962  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
This is a no brainer. Hold both your BTC and BCC.  

This is true only if you value fiat more than bitcoin. If not, only important consideration is how many BTC you'll buy by selling your BCC. If BTC appreciates faster than BCC then your "hold both" strategy is losers choice.


If you can predict BCC and BTC price 6 months out you should already be a rich retired trader who does not need to hang out on crypto forums:)

I don't need to predict BTC and BCC price in 6 month. I know that in 6 months you'll need much more BCCs to buy 1 BTC than in 6 days. Thats only thing you need to know to make the right choice!
963  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 06:50:52 PM
This is a no brainer. Hold both your BTC and BCC.  

This is true only if you value fiat more than bitcoin. If not, only important consideration is how many BTC you'll buy by selling your BCC. If BTC appreciates faster than BCC then your "hold both" strategy is losers choice.


964  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 05:50:14 PM
Free bitcoins is always good.
If I sell the shitcoin right away the chance to buy cheap bitcoins is greater.
965  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 04:55:04 PM
The risk in this strategy is that BCC crashes right away and never recovers and you lose that free money, but if that happens you’ll still probably benefit from a rising BTC price.

Why should I miss that free money? BTC price will rise either way!

I'm not in favor of crashing the fork right away. I'd like to see bigblockers protractedly defend that price and burn more of their bitcoins.
966  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 04:42:28 PM
I wonder what the price of BCC + BTC combined will be when BCC comes out. Hopefully price on BTC doesn't crash too hard or goes down that much at all.

Either way is very profitable. If price of fork is higher than we expect we shall get more of Jihan's and Ver's money when we sell it. if price of bitcoin is lower than we expect we can buy more bitcoins.
967  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 03:48:49 PM
And he and Jihan have a lot of money, of course.

Good.
By selling the fork we shall legally transform their money into more bitcoins on our wallets.
968  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 12:57:11 PM
time to exit crypto for a while, i see sell off soon

Isn't that you always see? And most of the time you're wrong!
969  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 10:01:57 PM
Yes, they will be invalid. If 1 BTC is 5 BCC, and you spend 1 BCC, then you can't spend it again in the other chain. In other words, you will have 0.8 BTC.

But I hope I'm wrong and you can sell BCC for BTC and vice-versa, like any alt coin.

They would be two completely separate blockchains, where transactions of one coin can only be made on its own chain (because of two way replay protection), and cannot affect the other chain in any way.

But will they use the same bitcoin addresses? I read that, to claim BCC, you have to put your BTC address in the ABC wallet.


Never do that if you have unspent bitcoins on this address! After the fork is activated FIRST move your bitcoins to another bitcoin address and just after that put your empty BTC address in your BTCCrooked ABC wallet!
970  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 07:46:06 PM
Yes. In my math, $403 is exactly between 1% and 2% of $2759.

BTCC crooks don't have that much money to support such a price. Unless, of course, they succeed in stealing bitcoins from noobs as already explained.


they can pump chinese fiat renminbi into that freak all day long

I'd really like to ignore this as a non-event. But I can't because it isn't because somebody will pump that freak all day long.

@becoin
Greed always finds a way

That's what I'm saying. Greed will force noobs to split their wallets and try to sell the fork. Instead they'll end up selling their bitcoins for peanuts. That's the game of the crooks.

That might be the game of some of the crooks, but most of the names on that list have conviction and big bags. I think you underestimate this.

These are the same clowns that stood behind Bitcoin XT, Bitcoin Classic, Bitcoin Unlimited, Bitcoin ABC and so on. How can I take them seriously?

971  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 07:20:06 PM
Yes. In my math, $403 is exactly between 1% and 2% of $2759.

BTCC crooks don't have that much money to support such a price. Unless, of course, they succeed in stealing bitcoins from noobs as already explained.


they can pump chinese fiat renminbi into that freak all day long

I'd really like to ignore this as a non-event. But I can't because it isn't because somebody will pump that freak all day long.

@becoin
Greed always finds a way

That's what I'm saying. Greed will force noobs to split their wallets and try to sell the fork. Instead they'll end up selling their bitcoins for peanuts. That's the game of the crooks.
972  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
Yes. In my math, $403 is exactly between 1% and 2% of $2759.

BTCC crooks don't have that much money to support such a price. Unless, of course, they succeed in stealing bitcoins from noobs as already explained.


they can pump chinese fiat renminbi into that freak all day long

Renminbi is useful only for the Chinese. There is capital control in China. I need dollars or euros. Who will pump dollars or euros in BTCCrooked so that I can sell it?
973  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 07:03:17 PM
Yes. In my math, $403 is exactly between 1% and 2% of $2759.

BTCC crooks don't have that much money to support such a price. Unless, of course, they succeed in stealing bitcoins from noobs as already explained.
974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
That's why I'm just going to sit on my BTCC for a long time, and see what happens in the future.  Grin

Wouldn't it be better to dump them first, and rebuy at pennies on the dollar too?

Sure I guess. Knock yourself out.

I could care less, and won't be putting into a single nickel into that shitcoin.

Current premarket price of BTCC shows that price will be between 1% and 2% of Bitcoin value. Even daily price volatility of Bitcoin is much bigger than that. So, this fork is pretty much a non-event. It doesn't deserve the efforts to split your wallet just to sell the fork.
975  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 05:54:47 PM
please to tell, where is this BCC dump?

Those crooks that decided to fork into Bitcoin Cash know very well that this unit will be sold into oblivion and will not exist for a very long time. What they bet on is stealing bitcoins from illiterate noobs that can't correctly split their wallets. That is their game. Act with extreme care and follow split manuals only from verified sources!
976  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Some people will get burnt hard over the next few years.

This is the same "warning" I read on this forum for the last 7 years. Don't you have anything new to say?
977  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2017, 08:08:50 AM
I told ya yesterday. Shorts will get REKT.
978  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
This. This is how it works.

Everybody that shorted will be REKT. This is how Bitcoin works. Enough said.
979  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2017, 05:47:29 PM
Heard this one before. Heard it in 2014, after the market had peaked.
                             and held for two and a half years
                                /
People that bought ^  that peak now have 150% profit!
FTFY

Wut?
150% ROI for 2.5 years... and that is somethin bad?!
980  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 27, 2017, 05:09:54 PM
Heard this one before. Heard it in 2014, after the market had peaked.

People that bought that peak now have 150% profit!
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