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61  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 11, 2011, 07:24:18 AM
Ok so I have the temps back to where they should be. What a relief!

It seems that the heatsinks do not sit flush on the dies - and I had to use twice the normal amount of ceramique to get proper thermal conduction. It's still not where I want it to be, but maybe the MX4 will change that.

Thanks for all the help, anyone recommend lapping the HS?
62  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 10, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
I just finished re-doing the thermal paste with ceramique - this time using the tint and bead method. Surprisingly, the temps now idle at the same 51C - so it is clear to me that this is definitely a thermal conductivity issue.

The problem is that now both cards are above 80C at full load. I'll wait 24 hours to see if this improves, but I went ahead and ordered the MX4 to see if that helps. Likewise, I will keep this thread updated for anyone down the road experiencing similar issues.

I'm considering going down the watercooling route - as this might be cost-effective in the long run (if I end up with 4 6990s, so I don't need a box fan 24/7).

I was looking at the mcw60 block, I can get two of them for around $30 each. Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative to these blocks? Or a resource for watercooling GPUs?

Thanks for all the help guys, I was freaking out that card #1 was somehow damaged - and it looks like that's not the case.


Also, is mineral oil submersion an option?
63  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 10, 2011, 04:26:22 AM
You have years of experience applying the wrong way apparently. As was said before, the dot method is the proper way. Keep in mind a gpu is not the same as a cpu.

I've taking note of these new practices - and will try "tinting" and just applying a pea. Thank you for the reminder.

Although, I wouldn't call it "the wrong way" if it's what worked 15 years ago, they have just improved upon an old practice... and I was unaware of this improvement.

What do you mean when you say that a GPU is not the same as a CPU? Are there according methods for application of the thermal paste?
64  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 09, 2011, 06:04:55 PM
i had the same problem with Arctic Silver Ceramique... my only solution was to use Arctic Cooling MX-4... just a drop on the core

On graphics cards? Which card? 6950's? This is so frustrating =(

I have to tone back my hash rate on the hot card from 362 to 165.  Undecided
65  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 09, 2011, 06:00:16 AM
just plain unscrewing the heatsink and reseating it may help- as mentioned above, bubbles can form and the paste may for one reason or another end up on only part of the chip you're cooling. i've had two occasions with GPU's similar to this one with the paste not being properly distributed and the other is i missed a screw on the main bracket that mounts the cooler to the GPU- then i've also forgotten to re-plugin the fan a couple times but i assume you've checked that sort of noobishness......

I tried reseating 3-4 times with no luck. If it doesn't improve by this time tomorrow I may consider getting that better thermal grease that Jack is talking about.

I still don't see how the paste could be the problem though - maybe I should try sanding the heatsink to get it to conduct better? Anyone know of any other mods to get the heatsink to sit better on the die?
66  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 09, 2011, 04:42:28 AM
That sounds reasonable - but doesn't explain why one card is running so much hotter than the other - their idle temps are 10C apart...
67  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / 6950s running hotter after thermal paste...wtf? on: July 09, 2011, 04:24:01 AM
I have two Sapphire 1GB 6950s, I have been running them for about a month - and getting the following consistent stats:

Card #1
Core Voltage: 1120mV
Core Clock: 920mhz
Memory Clock: 520mhz
Fan: 100%
Temperature: 78-79C

Card #2
Core Voltage: 1120mV
Core Clock: 920mhz
Memory Clock: 520mhz
Fan: 100%
Temperature: 76-77C

and getting 725 megahash total.

So I thought it would be a good idea to open up the cards and replace the thermal paste. In my experience, this normally lowers temperatures. Much to my dismay, card #1 is running 84C and card #2 I have been shutting off (stop mining) after it hits 86C - which takes 10 seconds to get there.

All of my stats and the specs are the same (except the temps/Mhash), I have checked them in both GPU-Z and MSI afterburner (what I use to OC).

I was suggested in IRC to try using zip ties because the heatsink does not sit well in these cards - I was shown this photo: http://imgur.com/TWF7Z

I tried that, but it hasn't changed anything.

The thermal paste I used is Artic Silver, and I have many years experience applying it evenly and in a thin coating. I have reapplied the paste 2 times (cleaning with alcohol wipes) to card #2 with no avail.

Any help would be really appreciated - this makes no sense to me!

Thanks!
68  Economy / Economics / Re: What can we expect the price to decline/raise to? on: July 05, 2011, 02:15:03 AM
Can you cite that economist?

What happens when your prediction is wrong? I bet you will stop replying to this thread...
69  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Sapphire 6950s / catalyst 11.6 - computer freezes when I watch video on: June 27, 2011, 05:40:35 PM
The -f flags do nothing - but disabling hardware acceleration on the flash menu seems to have worked. I also disabled all of the options on the video section in catalyst - maybe that helped too.

Thanks guys! Now I can watch my youtubes
70  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sent 17 BTC to MTGox minutes before they shut down on: June 27, 2011, 06:38:41 AM
Why don't you look up your transaction, so that it can be confirmed that you actually sent the btc?
71  Bitcoin / Mining support / Sapphire 6950s / catalyst 11.6 - computer freezes when I watch video on: June 25, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
I have this problem where my computer freezes when I watch a video. It only happens when I am mining on both of my Sapphire 6950s. I have tried re-installing all of the drivers / catalyst - and I used driver sweeper.

I have tried resetting my cards to their default clock settings - doesn't fix it.

If I am mining on both cards, and click on a video (on youtube or whatever) - the computer instantly freezes, and I have to restart it.

Anyone else have this problem, or know how to fix it?
72  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: June 25, 2011, 10:44:59 AM
Hi, I would like to post on the mining forums to ask questions about a mining problem I am having. As for my cred, I have been running 980mh/s for the past week and a half. I split it between slush's pool and double c's namecoin pool.

I use guiminer with poclbm, but have tried phoenix. I overclock my cards, and pull 750mh/s out of my two 6950s with locked shaders.

I'm a regular in IRC - under the same name as my forum account.

Just trying to ask a few questions about the 6950s, and catalyst 11.6 in the appropriate forums.
73  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: June 25, 2011, 10:40:40 AM
Hi!
74  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Unclock memory on 4870HD on: June 25, 2011, 06:45:12 AM
that did it! thanks, lol
75  Bitcoin / Mining / Unclock memory on 4870HD on: June 09, 2011, 05:01:26 PM
I have tried downloading Afterburner 2.2.0, editing the conf file - and still I cannot decrease my memory clock to below 450 mhz on windows 7.

Does anyone else know how I could decrease the clock past 450mhz - aka remove the under limit? Angry

Any help would be appreciated, I have spent over 2 hours trying to figure it out!
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else considering mining Namecoin? on: June 09, 2011, 01:09:47 PM
I've been reading up on namecoin, and I figured I might move a couple of my workers over to it to diversify my mining production. Is anyone else considering/has already done this?

I'm considering it, but have no idea how to run a bitcoin miner and namcoin simultaneously on windows. I have a separate machine I could mine namecoins on, but i don't want to waste time on it if lamecoins don't have a viable future...
77  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - now with Phoenix/phatk and ufasoft on: June 09, 2011, 10:06:08 AM
I keep getting the error: Problems communicating with bitcoin RPC

My poclbm.ini reads correctly when I view it:

{
    "profiles": [
        {
            "username": "myusernamel",
            "balance_auth_token": "",
            "name": "thurjun72011",
            "hostname": "localhost",
            "external_path": "",
            "flags": "-w 256 -f 1",
            "autostart": false,
            "device": 0,
            "password": "mypass",
            "port": "8332"
        }
    ],
    "bitcoin_executable": "E:\\coinage\\Bitcoin\\bitcoin.exe",
    "show_opencl_warning": true,
    "show_summary": true,
    "show_console": true
}

Anyone know of a solution to this? I realize that it is not connecting to my bitcoin.exe correctly, but I don't understand how to fix it!

Thanks for the awesome GUI, and solid community.
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