it is no different - market PAYS for open-source first mover advantage, always everywhere. the shitcoins can clone as much as they want, they will never reach the originals implementation - in my opinion dark makes two significant errors: it concentrates too little on ring signature with the promise of adding something better + keeping it closed sourced.

I am not trolling but I could start singing a farewell - not for short term, but for mid and long term

I gave my vote and will probably even donate if this is the normal business behaviour and helps the project to succeed - I just was somewhat surprised that this is "normal" for adding a currency to a bigger exchange, thanks for clarification keyboard-mash.

Higher liquidity would be helpful and also the argument of not being a closed group with a small exchange is good. if it is consensus to get it on mintpal I am with the community.

wow - they receive payments for adding coins? just wow - I see the advantage of additional liquidity and the critique is not against the community. it is against the behaviour of mintpal to receive money for adding coins.

maybe I am naive but I believe in cryptocurrencies future and especially in projects which offer something which is worth investing. why does mintpal does not chose the coins traded on their exchange by themselves?

boolberry is moving in the right direction - good to see

funny that there is so little liquidity in the markets

is this bs really neccessary? - I mean seriously how do all these sh..coins get so many votes?

maybe monero should wait until mintpal adds them by themselves

I also think it is not neccessary to get this in the title

good to see that the dev is working on a gui - this project is somewhat to small for the expected utility.

picked that in the darkcoin thread, cannot say if right or wrong. - for a non-computer scientist: this is the crux of cryptonotes isn't it? that there is no tx? Please correct me if I am wrong.

paypal would be one of the biggest things ever

finally we move this thread back to a quality discussion - thanks for the input. regarding moneros short term inflation - it is a ethical question which in my opionon is impossible to answer with good or bad: it depends on the objectives.

I do not disrespect evans approach to make a coin (artificially) scarce for a high market cap. despite the positive side effect that your investment gets worth more there is also the effect that it secures the project by a huge hashing power. the third point is that there is not much use for an altcoin besides trading, so his idea of masternodes was very good.

but I can also follow the logic of the distribution of monero - it is probably not in short term giving huge reward (it is arguable if that is good or bad), but it is helping to get a wide user base - additionally they are STAYING to their social contract, which is in altcoins also remarkable. if you follow the development of their hashing power, you also see an exponential rise.

from an investors perspective it does not matter that much long term which project succeeds. I suspect the anonymous coin(s) winning that race to have a market cap around 10-25% of bitcoin.

let us see where this ship is going. I made my decision which project will probably succeed but I am open to different opinions.

exactly, nothing new here - just the usual pump and dump 

do not want to hate here or anything - I still have quite a few darks which I bought early.

The big competitor for dark is NOT existing coins adding coin mixtures, the big competitors are cryptonotes who really offer trustless anonymity.

For me it was a huge turn down when evan said that he is not implementing ring signature - I see his reasoning (it basically makes the economic model of masternodes useless), but still think it is a failure not to add it.

bcnext or whatever the name of the initial distributor was is as unknown as satoshi - I doubt this will be an issue in the future.

anyway I think that Proof of Stake is great for blockchain application other than currency - I'm not a friend of Daniel Larimer but his argument not to overpay security and his approach to make blockchain technology profitable is worth mentioning.

for currencies it is more useful if there is another way to get them as to buy them - we can argue if that is or is not the case for bitcoin

love to see a post on r/bitcoin for the upcoming fifa world championships: use the bitcoin blockchain for trustless/decentralized betting.

great that you guys managed to get it started before the world championships

the reasoning given by alex is probably not the worst one  

I made a statement regarding counterparty a billion times in this forum: it is without a doubt one of the best projects regarding, capability, fairness, openess, innovation, driven by excellent and intelligent developers. until now it lacked marketing, but I think they now have the right guy for that.

I do not think this needs to become an advertisment thread, the underlying currency xcp is UNTIL NOW only in small use, this is given by the developers dogma what can be done with bitcoins, will be done with bitcoins. xcp can be taken in escrow and until now it was not neccessary - hopefully this will change once decentralized betting starts.

so far it is a promising project with high ethics - let's see where their underlying currency will go.

I hold it ultra long term so I basically do not care for short term pricing.

I think I have never seen more FUD against a coin than against darkcoin.

And I was there when NXT launched

If the project succeeds and Evan manages to get it all well implemented - it will be around ltcs market cap.

If he fails this will be where aurora is now.

it is not exactly a clone - bought the same amount of bool pre exchange as I did with monero.

the developer is given credit by the monero developers.

in case two ring signature projects succeed, for me it is likely that it is monero and boolberry.

you guys are aware that this is a baby coin and it is the second day on an exchange?

the developer has so far shown a great effort in improving the cryptonight code - even the mro guys are showing him respect in this thread, the whitepaper of van saberhagen is probably the greatest improvement so far in cryptocurrencies since satoshis whitepaper.

the attitude to rate (!) projects after less than 4 weeks because they are not pumped and promoted like shit is just terrible.

bbr has a marketcap of around 150(!) btc - do your own conclusion if this is time to buy or sell

as long as zoidberg does not reject his project nothing is wrong

is there ANY rationale reason that it is only traded on a small exchange, which only trades msc and maidsafe?

are you guys capable of reading?

it is UBER profitable to mine at current prices - some people have different objectives. i bought a few preexchange and obviously paid quite a high price - but it is with mro the most promising project in ring signature projects