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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Opportunistic mining in effect for the following pools
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on: July 24, 2011, 04:04:30 PM
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I don't see how pool hopping helps very much. But I'm curious to know if/how it might.
Also, how do you tell your miners when to hop? Based on what?
Personally, I've been very happy with my BTC mining results AND the stability of the pool(s) I've been dealing with. So I'm cautious to rock the boat.
IE., Not long ago, I think I was losing about 30% to DDoS attacks and other connectivity issues at various pools.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What is your mining speed?
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on: July 24, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
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THe problem is that the risk is not so high for some of us.
Little Dude busys cards in a shop, pays sales tax on everything, has a cooling problem and a problem when things dont work out. Selling stuff on ebay he bought expensive.
MiningCorp has industrial electricity - I possibly undercut 75% of the people here by more than 30% on their their electric price nce I go online. He also has buys stuff in bulk, and does not pay sales tax on the stuff he buys. On top, if thigns go out he has enough stuff to make it a used sale of some dimension (so it is worthwhile putting the stuff up nicely) and writes off the loss anyway from taxes.
But profits from mining are supposed to be declared if this is in fact a business. The IRS may not be able to track the BTC sales, but they sure can track the $ transfers into a bank account. And if you have a net income of $100,000 or more and write it all off ... they sure will.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / 7Gh/s ... NMC or BTC ... or BTC pool hopping?
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on: July 24, 2011, 03:50:28 PM
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Have read some of the threads regarding NMC mining > BTC mining. Is that still true or did the difficulty factor skyrocket and end the party?
Have also read about BTC pool hopping. Not clear on how that nets you any gain. If you leave a pool you have fewer shares for the round and hence make less. Is there a loophole in how shares are calculated that would let you benefit from having few shares in many pools = more than all your shares from one?
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: are they making more 5830's?
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on: July 24, 2011, 02:31:05 AM
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With demand for the 58xx series cards so high, you'd think AMD would restart production. I find it hard to believe they've stopped though.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: why would it help to lower memory speeds?
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on: July 24, 2011, 12:10:40 AM
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I'm using Sapphire's Trixx on Win7 to do that. It's running hot because I've got a 5850 warming the air under it Not sure what platform you're on but if you're on Linux, you might be restricted to what AMD's official drivers allow, 900Mhz is max for the core on my Catalyst as well. I don't think being cooler by that few C is the issue because I could lower the fan speed and still get the same performance. 939 / 313 / 55% / 86C / 423.4 MH/s I suspect it's some memory latency and timing issues but testing at a "mismatched" 939/300 also produces similar MHash to 939/313 so I'm not quite sure what is causing this. Yup, I'm a linux shop over here. Wonder if I boot into Win7 and muck with the clocks if they'd save the settings. Or ... if the ATI linux drivers would even let me go there. I think you're right about matched and mismatched clocks. Some alignments of speed work better than others. Even running "in the zone" I find sweet spots.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: why would it help to lower memory speeds?
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on: July 23, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
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For comparison, on my 5870
939 / 313 / 1.125V / 70% / 81C / 424.5 MH/s / 435~439W
939 / 1200 / 1.125V / 70% / 87C / 408.8 MH/s / 466W~471W
939 / 600 / 1.125V / 70% / 83C / 411.6 MH/s / 450~453W
ironically, it seems on mine that lower memory clocks makes it faster!
How are you getting your 5870s to go above (and below) the configurable ranges? My core clocks max out at 900. Memory at 1200. I have one card that was reflashed by the previous owner that goes to 1000 (core) and 1400 (mem). But it locks up when I go above the normal configurable ranges of 900/1200. Nor does that reflash let me go below the configurable memory clock range. I'll guess your card is running a tick faster at 313 mem clock because the chip itself is running a bit cooler? 80+ C seems pretty hot to me regardless.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: why would it help to lower memory speeds?
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on: July 23, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
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Perhaps it's largely card specific:
* Current settings (5870)
Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series Core (MHz) Memory (MHz) Current Clocks : 884 1287 Current Peak : 884 1287 Configurable Peak Range : [600-900] [900-1300] GPU load : 99%
Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series Sensor 0: Temperature - 70.50 C Fan speed query: Query Index: 0, Speed in percent Result: Fan Speed: 74%
mhash 374.0/362.9 | accept: 68287 | reject: 721 | hw error: 127
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* Memory clock dropped to 900mhz
Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series Core (MHz) Memory (MHz) Current Clocks : 884 900 Current Peak : 884 900 Configurable Peak Range : [600-900] [900-1300] GPU load : 0%
Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series Sensor 0: Temperature - 69.50 C Fan speed query: Query Index: 0, Speed in percent Result: Fan Speed: 71%
mhash 366.0/362.9 | accept: 68305 | reject: 721 | hw error: 127
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: why would it help to lower memory speeds?
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on: July 23, 2011, 04:48:48 AM
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I've found (and you can too) that bumping memory clock most certainly boosts performance. Just try it.
But ...
Bumping core clock gives you more bang for the buck, and costs less in terms of heat. So the algorithm you want is:
First: bump core speed to as high as possibly stable Then: bump memory speed to as high as you're comfortable with temperature wise (as well as stable)
Now that being said, some people tweak cards by pumping core clocks beyond the normal ranges. In most of those cases, you need to keep the memory clocks low or you'll overheat.
But in the ideal case (eg., if you were running your machines in a basement somewhere in Antarctica) you'd crank everything to eleven.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Transaction made on 7/14 (am) still not showing up?
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on: July 15, 2011, 08:10:57 PM
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It eventually came through. The thing I'm wondering is ... seems like I need to leave my client running for a while until a transaction has at least 1 confirmation?
Would be nice if they added a feature to set "donation" each time you made a transaction. IE., in the same window.
With a somewhat variable level of donation it might even help generate profit for the mining / transaction network. People could opt to pay more for quicker processing.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Transaction made on 7/14 (am) still not showing up?
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on: July 15, 2011, 02:03:56 PM
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I. I sent 1 btc to my TradeHill account yesterday morning (7/14) and a) it's not showing at TH most likely because b) it's still showing 0/confirmed in my BTC client.
II. I sent 3 btc to my MtGox account at the same time. They're there. They show 10 confirmations.
Why did II happen and not I?
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Why has the network jumper to 14 terahashes?
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on: July 14, 2011, 01:00:24 AM
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I doubt many of us who are already "in" will be getting "out" anytime soon.
I'm hoping the little guys like us can weather the storm at any difficulty. I know I'd probably mine for BTC at a loss to "be a part of something" that I am excited about. The question is, when will the big farms close up shop? Now that's a refreshing spirit up in here. +1
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950: Under-rated?
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on: July 13, 2011, 11:54:21 PM
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I'm getting 440 mh/s on my ref unlocked shader card. Its doing 990 mhz 1.25v on core and only at 71c. My non ref frozr II with locked shaders is only doing 350 mh/s 875 mhz 1.1v on core and is around 81c. I don't know why temps seem strange but thats what they are.
All the other GPUs I have running all run fine at close to 99% of max core AND memory clocks. They also all run at or below 72C. I guess that's the main reason I find these cards so annoying. They really do require you to drop the memory clock as low as you can while still keeping as high a core clock as possible. Lot's of monkeying. Other cards are much more "plug and play" so to speak. I'll have to try to unlock shaders on one of the cards and see how that works. I run mostly Linux boxes for everything. But I'm sure I have a HD with XP around somewhere. Seems like you can't unlock shaders w/o various XP apps. ;-( Well, the thing about these cards that I find annoying
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Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6950: Under-rated?
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on: July 13, 2011, 10:36:47 PM
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What 6950s do you have? I have 2 x ASUS EAH6950 DCII/2DI4S/1GD5 that get 380MH/s at 72c. Here are my settings if it helps you: 930MHz clock 625mhz clock memory 65% fan manual set poclbm through guiminer with -v -w128 -f10 Mine were running high temps with an older driver. Make sure that you use the newest 11.6 available from ati/amd.
Is there a way to set the card up with those clocks under Linux? Aticonfig won't let me go outside the defined ranges of 500-840 and 1250-1325 for core and memory respectively. I can see where cranking the clock that high would get more Mh/s. Similarly, lowering the memory speed would allow the chip to run a bit cooler. I'm still trying to figure out the optimal settings for core and memory. Dropping either one lowers speed and heat. Seems like core has a bigger impact on speed and memory a bigger impact on heat, but I'm basing that on what I'm reading in forums like this, not from any empirical testing.
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