А на бирже они будут торговаться тоже через три месяца только? Кто нибудь в курсе? Я данных по этому поводу не встретил, или пропустил.

How much damage would VISA have suffered if they'd hit a transaction limit for 6+ months during their growth period?

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/historical/1w-f-txs_per_tot-01071

Why it was completely irresponsible not to increase the block size limit before implementing other solutions:

It's pretty much all explained in the original bounty and the winner announcement

It's a calculaton I made during the time I ordered the units, and I have to say that I'm very satisfied with the 22 SP10s.  The 2 week headstart might make a big difference.  That said, you are partially right on ordering those 220.  I used the group buy to get another bunch of units (which was discounted for existing customers), so my average is lower.

Would you send money or bitcoins to MtGox when it re-opens?

It will take several days before we get the reply apparently.. courts are terribly slow

We need this poll to deliver the sentiment of the people to the Japanese court

It's a good idea, but I don't think people will give their username/password to just anyone.  There is a possibility gox might re-open in the future.  If we can somehow do this without having a third party involved it would be awesome.

Yes


We could run this on a website instead of having people run it locally, but how do you know that you can trust the website to not save your password?

Hey Everyone,

I'm working on several projects that will benefit MtGox creditors.  However, the 1 remaining issue is that we have to find a way to independently verify that their balances are what they say they are (and link them to an email address).  To this end, I have the following solution in mind.  I'm looking for volunteers who can help write this software.  Also feel free to comment if this is viable or not.

- We create open source software which you can run on your computer
- The software logs in to MtGox through https, and intercepts/saves everything but discards the password.  This results in you getting an https session signed by mtgox, with your username and balance inside of it.
- You submit the https session data to a public database, together with the decryption key, and an email address. 
- The username and email address should be submitted in hashed format (together as one hash), so noone knows what it is (prevent spam and guessing).  Only the websites you give your username and email to will be able to confirm your balance is correct.

Any thoughts?

Please join us in #projectgox on freenode to discuss this.  Make sure to say in the channel that you are there because of the forum post / this project

How many did you sell?  I was the last one in with 22 orders

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/better-together-sp10-sp30-march

if you click technical specifications and you scroll down to SP10 dawson - you see 'goldstrike I ASIC', whats up with that?

https://i.imgur.com/7PlnAkK.png

Hi Everyone,
 
This is our first update since we started the website.  The response has been overwhelming.  Our site http://www.mtgoxrecovery.com now represents over 20% of all MtGox claims and is still growing rapidly.  This is great for several reasons, but  first I would like to share some more information about who is behind this site. 
 
My name is Olivier Janssens, I recently received some press by taking the first flight paid for with bitcoins(*)  I have been an early miner since 2010, and (still) believe Bitcoin is the greatest invention since the Internet.  This is the currency of the People, and will allow us to regain much freedom, and enhance our way of doing business together in ways that we have never seen before.  Unfortunately, as part of the growth process, some of the rotten apples have to be weeded out.  In this case the apple was quite big. 
   
I personally lost over $5 million USD in this debacle, due to Mark Karpeles stating to me personally that large amounts of Bitcoins could be sold on his exchange without any issues. After 3 months of trying to (unsuccessfully) extract my money, I started preparing a lawsuit.  This was about three weeks ago, and around the time the first protestor arrived at their office because MtGox had stopped sending Bitcoins under the excuse of the malleability bug. 
 
Mark knew I was a major stake holder in the Bitcoin community, and we discussed solutions for 3 hours to try to resolve this.  At that time he kept telling me he could only send me a very limited amount per month, due to anti money laundering issues.  Obviously, this was a lie.
 
MtGox was already insolvent at that time and likely was long before then.  Mark had lured me (and many others) into sending over millions worth of Bitcoins so he could continue whatever scam or scheme he was running.  However, I decided that I would not take MtGox down with my lawsuit (I was ready to have their bank account blocked and start criminal charges against Karpeles personally). 
 
The reason why I didn’t proceed with that course of action was because I wanted to protect the community from being harmed by taking down its oldest exchange.  So I decided to take Mark’s word that he really had anti money laundering issues, and bought back in.  In the end I walked away with a mere 20% of my original investment (bitcoinbuilder).
     
This was a huge loss, but I still have Bitcoins left.  There are many people who have lost their entire life savings due to Mark Karpeles’s criminal behaviour.  Personally, I do not believe that the coins were leaked through a bug.  I believe this scheme has been going for much longer.  Mark will be investigated for his potential crimes.  He is in Japan and the legal team I have on this case have assured me that he is unable to leave the country due the chapter 11 filing.
 
This brings us to our progress so far.  In the last days we have been working hard on assembling evidence from people who have been ripped-off by Mark in one way or another.  Not just by depositing coins on the exchange, but by false promises made by him personally.  If you have any such story where you communicated to him personally and where he gave you guarantees, please forward it to contact@mtgoxrecovery.com.  Any additional evidence which might help prove that Mark is behind this is very welcome.  If you have other evidence that would show something different, please send it to us also.  We are making a timeline of events, and a very clear document, and will be communicating this together with any other info we gather to the police. 
 
Meanwhile, we have also started some initiatives like http://www.projectgox.com - an idea that will start a community based bitcoin exchange, where all the people that lost money in MtGox become shareholders and take part in the profits.  We think that the Bitcoin community is extremely strong and resilient, and that we look out for each other.  This is what makes us strong. 
 
So far I have been funding this whole lawsuit personally, and I do not want to take donations because I think everyone has lost enough.  I believe Bitcoin is too important to have something like MtGox kill this valuable community. 
 
We will grow from this and become much stronger than before.  Together, we will try to make right what was done wrong, and start initiatives to make people whole again.  We will soon reach over 50% of the Plaintiffs, and this will allow us to take control of the former MtGox.
 
I welcome any ideas on how to monetize this again so we can start making back what we lost.  In the next days I will bring forward the best ideas we have received, and then we can all vote on how we wish to move ahead.  I do not have much hope on recovering any ‘stolen’ bitcoins, but we will do our very best to investigate this to the fullest extent of the law, to find out exactly what happened, and to bring those responsible to justice. 
 
Regards,
Olivier Janssens

 
(*)  http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-millionaire-olivier-janssens-private-jet-privatefly/

Almost 1000

What's that?

The MtGox tragedy affected many people.  We do believe however, that the Bitcoin community is immensely strong and resilient, and that a true free market will help each other at all times.  Therefore we hereby launch Project Gox.  The goal is to make this a community owned exchange, where all MtGox debt holders become shareholders.  If we can reach similar volumes to MtGox, we estimate that people can have their money returned to them within 1 to 2 years time, and hopefully sooner.  We commit to keeping all software open source.  We will also remain completely transparant in regards to our operations, which includes bitcoin and fiat balance verifications.  Additionally we want to keep the bitcoins which were deposited to trade, always in the hands of the persons who sent or acquired them.  The Fiat bank accounts will be under strict company foundation guidelines and financial compliance and regulations.  This might as well be the first attempt at a fully autonomous company.  We are open to discuss the best ways to do this.  If you want to join this initiative, please go to #projectgox on freenode IRC.

Project Gox

http://www.projectgox.com

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z6qws/open_letter_to_mark_karpeles_and_the_bitcoin/

contact@projectgox.com

Note: People will remain shareholder forever and take part in profits from the beginning. We do intend to make the shares tradable. That means people could get their balance back even quicker if the company gets valued highly enough.