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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
Ad hominem. Again.
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 04:48:04 PM


Thumbs up zing...  threecats can't read...
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Sad thing. You both ignore the question at hand: the seriousness of making a claim about a flaw affecting other coins, but then failing to demonstrate or clarify that claim. Instead you resort to ad hominem attacks against me for posing this question - and reposing the question, since no one is answering it.
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Not once did I resort to ad hominem attacks.  The issue is that you feel you're owed an explanation when you're not.  They can explain the flaw if and when they feel like it.  If they do, I'm sure they'll issue a statement and update.  I'd like to know what it is also, but I'm not pestering this board for an answer nor am I speculating that this unknown is or will contribute to a downfall in price.  That's the "U" in FUD.
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Actually the uncertainty is clearly contributing to a downfall in price, that is quite obvious. My questions have nothing to with this price fall, nor are they FUD.

Where we differ is this: I believe that when one coin makes an assertion serious as this - that there may be a flaw affecting other coins - an clear and coherent explanation is owed. Not to me personally but to the communities affected by this assertion, the communities of all coins involved.

This is a simple matter of ethics, of reasonable ethical conduct.




223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 04:17:24 PM

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I hear what you're saying. I would advise to wait 24-48 hours before making a decision based solely on this patch. My belief, a mixture of conjecture and communication with parties involved, is that the devs are busting their butts to get all the features up and running and will reaccess the situation when they have completed. Not saying they will/won't answer your question, but I believe it will be addressed when they have finished. I know it doesn't give you the answer now, but that's all I got for you. If I can answer anything else, let me know.
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Thanks. I appreciate your response.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 04:11:57 PM
And as to your repeated statements about 'drama', give it a rest. Unresolved information about a flaw, upcoming hardfork, delayed release heading into a weekend - these are solid elements in any trader's evaluation.

Difference is most aren't trading Cloak...  You're already late to the party if you are trying to "trade" Cloak.

Volume says otherwise. Quite a healthy trade these last hours.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 04:09:51 PM
Implicit in that original statement was that information about the flaw would be made clear at the time of patch release. This has not happened. It is a big thing to a big claim about a flaw affecting other coins, and then not communicate at the specified time.

What did my last sentence say???

"It might be inferred now that the patch has released they may divulge information about it, but that was never explicitly stated."

You can infer all you want, but no one ever said this would be made public.

Thumbs up zing...  threecats can't read...

Sad thing. You both ignore the question at hand: the seriousness of making a claim about a flaw affecting other coins, but then failing to demonstrate or clarify that claim. Instead you resort to ad hominem attacks against me for posing this question - and reposing the question, since no one is answering it.
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 03:30:40 PM
And as to your repeated statements about 'drama', give it a rest. Unresolved information about a flaw, upcoming hardfork, delayed release heading into a weekend - these are solid elements in any trader's evaluation.
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 03:28:27 PM
Implicit in that original statement was that information about the flaw would be made clear at the time of patch release. This has not happened. It is a big thing to a big claim about a flaw affecting other coins, and then not communicate at the specified time.
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 03:15:24 PM
There is a good argument for a lower prices in the next days. Delayed release, upcoming hardfork, no clear communication on exactly what the POS weakness is. Heading into the weekend. All this creates market uncertainty.
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 02:21:05 PM
Still waiting for someone who can say say exactly what the "flaw" is in "all" POS coins that this patch has fixed. A civil answer to a civil question would be appreciated.
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
I am not completely clear on the POS "flaw" that the devs discovered. Is this the blockchain bloat they mentioned in the last update? Or is there something more not yet released?
something more. there is a bug with staking. it will be fixed after hard fork on block 59860 in version 1.9.6.0.

and this staking bug affects all POS coins?
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 11, 2014, 10:48:30 AM
I am not completely clear on the POS "flaw" that the devs discovered. Is this the blockchain bloat they mentioned in the last update? Or is there something more not yet released?
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 10, 2014, 09:15:58 PM
Honestly Dagger, can you please give mod powers to someone who can mod this thread. What is happening here is pathetic.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 10, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
could some one please please moderate this thread.
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 10, 2014, 07:08:39 PM
Intermediate builds incoming for PoS patch 1.9.6.0

then

Few hours after that

PoSA

Can you comment on the nature of the PoS flaw that is discovered / patched?
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 10, 2014, 06:34:19 PM
can't some one please please please moderate this thread  ....
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 10, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
Hey Dagger. why don't you handover mod power on this thread to one of the stakeholders who is always here, that way this fud crap could be deleted as fast as these cockroaches breed ...  just my 2 sat ...
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 09, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
Why would people sell now? It defies logic.
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 09, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
Check out the depth charts...literally no one buying vs RED WALL OF CHINA.

It's a decent pump, nonetheless. To buy now would be suicide though, as I have said before to you noobs when you bought at 95k peak and DIDNT LISTEN TO ME when I told you to sell and buy back cheaper.


wow, some desperate fud here. too bad what your saying completely disregards the price action.
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 09, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
nice to see,a near total absence of dumping ...
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: July 09, 2014, 03:49:57 PM
wow.so impressed. now i can conveniently pay high fees.
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