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1  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] OKCoin Passes Proof of Solvency Audit on: August 26, 2014, 02:59:30 AM
Great news, as last few weeks there are rumors in China that some trading platform don't have engough bitcoin, that infect bitcoin price a bit i think. now we could see it as a great step to make bitcoin trade more transparent and health.
2  Economy / Economics / Re: [Flash Report] Bitcoin Challenges and What It Needs on: August 15, 2014, 04:04:30 AM
btc price is always up and down, just like sun, but it will always up at he morning.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Participate interview study about Bitcoin in Rutgers University on: August 15, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
Nice try, people in this forum are all intersted in bitcoin or at least most,

If get more sample who dont know bitcoin much to make the research might be better, more easy for common people know and use it is quite important for bitcoin community

4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Bitcoin Could Change How We Interact With Sports on: August 15, 2014, 03:49:07 AM
I think it mostly depends on payment tools like coinbase,bitpay,paypal(bitcoin), if they are doing well, and we could use it buy everything relevent to sports.
5  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [2T group buy] 2399$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 14, 2014, 03:52:48 AM
Ok..... thens

1. When did you sells one of these last? // We sale every servearl days, last time is today.
2. When will your price be fairs compared to other miners out there? // it depends on chips price mostly, maybe 1 week, maybe 2.
3. Why donts you just close up shop with your overpriceds 2 psu ugly miner?  //We will keep our product quality increased, and would keep going



1. Please posts bitcoin address to proves? i think this is false. // if you ever sale miners you would know mostly miner sale in China use RMB directly, very few use btc, even they got btc, they would wait for btc price rise.
2. Do yous admit it is to highs compared to other options? //it is not admit, it is actually high, but if you read my post, you would know what i meant, we are good at build higher hashrate in 1 miner.
3. Whats of its is your product?  You are just a reseller of others corrects?  You=salesman! I thinks // of course i am a salesman, and we got our own OEM miner facotry here.
Adevertise: If anyone would buy big batch, we are welcome to let you visit our facotry.

As you keep asking and i think if i don't answer it is a little rude, but it may influerence other people, so if you want to ask any others, welcome to PM me, i will answer ASAP, and you could post what i answer to here again. thanks for cooperation.
6  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [2T group buy] 2399$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 14, 2014, 03:29:17 AM
Ok..... thens

1. When did you sells one of these last? // We sale every servearl days, last time is today.
2. When will your price be fairs compared to other miners out there? // it depends on chips price mostly, maybe 1 week, maybe 2.
3. Why donts you just close up shop with your overpriceds 2 psu ugly miner?  //We will keep our product quality increased, and would keep going

7  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [2T group buy] 2399$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 14, 2014, 01:37:45 AM
it seems turned to be S3 VS A1 battle, not i meant to, Shocked

S3 is good at some point like power efficient, and our 2T is good at higher hashrate in 1 miner. that's all:)


I got a personals pm from him. After reading it .... still priced to highs!

When is last times you sold one of these?// We sale and produce this kind of 2T miner after we got big orders in China, or we won't even develop this kind of miner, until now, we sale more than 800pcs.

The answer to this questions should show price to high.  Your machine is like two A1 1T's made loves and made a ugly even more bulky miner.  I means it even takes two power supply in same machine even. // You may think it is too big, but if you ever use other 1T miner, you will find our 2T is only 25% bigger than old 1T, and power usage for old 1T is actually 1100-1200W, but new 2T is about 2000W. for this you can ask people who bought 1T miner before to confirm.

You lose ignore logics.  Price per T is higher then other options.  Uses more power then other options.  Gives me lower price or stop fighting it's better without justs saying it's one unit!//   Some people may think we keep very high profit like all the profit was earned by the miner producer, if you really know this business, like i said 70% cost is in the chips, the other cost is include shipping fee, psu,cases,board.., do you think how many profit we could have, and why i can't reduce that price. as we really want to sale it at 1000 if we could, we here all miss last year like avalon A3255 and s1 BM1380 chips, at that time, chips price is reasonable and all miner can earn the money back in 1 month.

Over time S3 save electricity moneys and is cheaper.  You customer loses by going with your pricing in long and short terms!  
// S3 is good at save electricity bills, but you may not know some place in the world, their electricity is very cheap and some even free, they may not that care or less care about electricity fee, and we are keep asking chips price to let it down, so keep eye on us, we will try to get the price down and let end user satisfied.
 

//Why i pm you is that  i don't meant to argue any people for anything, as i know it is impossible to change other's thought, but as you keep asking, i may answer it here. if it is not that correct, thanks for point it out.
8  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [2T group buy] 2399$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 12, 2014, 08:08:25 AM
it seems turned to be S3 VS A1 battle, not i meant to, Shocked

S3 is good at some point like power efficient, and our 2T is good at higher hashrate in 1 miner. that's all:)



9  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [2T group buy] 2399$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 12, 2014, 01:17:30 AM
okay simple math I buy 5 s-3's cost = 3.3 btc or 1930 usd I buy 2 evga 1300 psu cost = 340 usd

I am at 2270 usd  for 5 x 440 = 2200 gh   I burn 5 x 340 watts = 1700 watts

So 2270 usd 2200 gh 1700 watts  = s-3

or 2399 usd 2000 gh  2000 watts = you

the power difference of 300 watts is about 21 usd a month if your power is 10 cents a k-watt.


So lets make your gear perfect.  Lets make you honest.  Lets make it ship fast and not broken.


you need to lower the price to compete with bitmaintech.

Your gear should be 1899 to 1999.  That makes it priced about the exact same as bitmains s-3 once you figure the power in.

   Ok, first, thanks for your advice, very appreciate on it. here is something i want to express, may not that correct, just share about it.
   A1 chips is very stable during the last half year, and users can only use 1 miner to get 2T and don't need 5 miners, if customer ever buy 5 pcs miner to mining, 5*440 may not that correct, there will be hashrate lost during these 5units mining,as it depends on internet and miner a bit, and for international delivery, 5pcs got more risk to broke than 1pcs.
   And our miner is more easy to mining as customer don't need buy power supply again, as it is included, just need connect internet cable and fill in pool address to start mining, it save a bit time and more easy for some new users.
   For S3, sometimes, customer need to wait several days, but we have miners in stock, in mining market, the first month would be the most important for mining income. so, even just 1 week means a lot to end customers.
   And if customer buy 3 pcs, the price is 2299$ include shipping. the price is more close to S3 miner.
   Anyway, S3 is a good miner too, but we have diffrent advantages in it i think

   As miner seller, we eager for price down as it could incease the selling very much, but the price is depend on the chips price about 70%, the other 30% is almost stable like PSU, miner case, delivery fee,... if chips price wont' down, we don't have that much space to down too.
  
10  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [2T group buy] 2399$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 11, 2014, 06:49:48 AM
As we use 64 pcs bitmine A1 chips for each 2T miner, if you know how much A1 chips cost now, you will know it is hard to get to 2000$ include shipping for worldwide customers. as for this 25KG miner to like USA, cost about 170$ with DHL, that means 1830$ we actucally sale, you can check how much A1 chips cost at bitmine website, will know we just got less profit in this group buy now.
11  Bitcoin / Group buys / [2T group buy] 2099$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT in 1 day on: August 08, 2014, 09:58:07 AM
2099$ for 2T bitcoin miners, free shipping with DHL/TNT

This group buy is only for 2T bitcoin miner, you could place an order at our website by asking for Coupon code(=600$),  or you could just place an order to our email: support@best-miner.com, or through this forum.
Price update: 23/Aug
1-2pcs is 2099$, more than 3 pcs is 1999$, btc= 2099/bitstamp price.
If you are a reseller, pls contact us and we do dropship too.
This 2T miner is include PSU, you could mining with it quickly after you get it, just link the internet, fill in the pool address, then start.
If you want to buy 1T or 34M LTC miner, pls ask for other coupon code through email.
Free shipping with DHL or TNT, mostly takes about 5 working days to worldwide.
Free shipping to most countries include Europe/USA/Canada/Australia/India/most Asia countriesÖ
Some countries is not free shipping as delivery fee is double or triple than the others, pls ask before order whether your country may need add some fee.

1:Miner in office

2:Miner in office

3:Miner in mining factory

4:Miner speed in console

5: Miner speed in pools



2T bicoin miner information.
Features:
Color: Black
Power consumption: 2000W
Power supply: 2000W
Hashrate: 2000 GH/s
Chips: Bitmine 28NM, 4 modules, each with 16 chips
Size: 50*37.5*23
Weight: 25kg (package weight)
Temperature: Less than 50℃
embedded CGminer (can run stand alone)
Noise less than 52DB

Payment:
We accept Bitcoin payment/Western union/Wire transfer.
BTC address: 1ALxbp9mt37JmjHhhigVG1VQGXC4HtaRFH
Western union: Name: Jingqun Chen   Country: China
Wiretransfer: Swift code: ICBKCNBJGDG
Bene bank name: The industrial and commercial bank of China, Guangdong provincial branch
Bene bank add: 8/F NO.123 YAN JIANG XI RD GUANGZHOU, GUANGDONG PROV
Bene Bank city: Guangzhou Guangdong Prov. China.
Account name: Chen jing qun
Account number: 9558823602007139963
Contact:
Email:support@best-miner.com
Skype:support@best-miner.com
ē   Phone:+86 18925129649(Whatsapp)
http://www.best-miner.com/contact.php

How to buy:
1:First register, then open 2T miner link
http://best-miner.com/product.php?id=6

2:Choose the quantity you want to buy。

3:Fill in Coupon code in the ordering page, 2Tbitcoin-8, Coupon code=600$
 

4:Pay the way you chose, there are three ways, BTC, Western union, Wire transfer.

5:Login  to check the order information, and watch the miner status, there are three staus, Unpaid, Wait for deliver, shipped.

Warranty
  We give free warranty for 1 months after you get the miner, and 1 year paid warranty for only repair cost.

FAQ:
   1: How we can trust you.
    We got some customers in this forum, some of them even visit us before or sale our miners, As for privacy problem, if you want to confirm, text me, and I will let some good reputation member confirm for me.
    And our Guangzhou office is always welcome for customers visit and take the miner directly, If you watch us before, you could find that we have sold bitcoin miners for about 1 year.
      
   2: What if the order delay.
   All miners are in stock, we donít doing preorder, and will deliver in 1-2 days after payment confirmed, if we delay for more than 3 days, we will pay back 110% money customer paid.

Additional Services
1. Tech Support via TeamViewer is provided by Jason from best-miner
2. Tech Support via port forwarded SSH & http is provided by Jason from best-miner
3. Tech Support via e-mail is provided by Jason from best-miner
4. Tech Support via one-way Skype & telephone are provided by Jason from best-miner
5. Extended Hours of Support is provided!
12  Economy / Economics / Re: Does China exactly ban bitcoin? on: August 08, 2014, 03:00:28 AM
Until now, Chinese goverment is not banned bitcoin extrange website, like okcoin and huobi and btcchina and chinabtc.

All these website is working well, and i think is more convenient than btc-e and bitstamp. people here in China could buy bitcoin in 1 minute and sell bitcoin in 1 minute and get the Really mony in about 24 hours(mostly in 2-3 hours).

As Chinese stock market is week since 2008, so some geeks investage BTC, its convinent make here became the largest bitcoin extrange market in the World.

We hate bad news from Chinese goverment too, but at least news since this year not destroy the market here, even make people more confident as the most bad news seems gone, then what we need to afraid.
13  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Step-by Step to start Bitcoin Mining on: August 08, 2014, 02:16:37 AM
Now use miner mining is very easy, most miner have a friendly console, and almost everyone could know how to set it, as it is only need fill in pool address.
14  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining Community And CryptoCause Come Together To Help A Fellow Miner on: August 08, 2014, 02:03:33 AM
Hope the buddy could back to healthy quick, God bless him.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin for open-source contracts, charity on: August 08, 2014, 01:57:12 AM
Seems you want to a kickstarter use bitcoin?
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia to ban bitcoin, again... on: August 08, 2014, 01:47:05 AM
China used to want ban bitcoin extrange, but acctully it still works very well here, here we could sell and buy bitcoin in minute, so i think Chinese goverment is more friend to bitcoin compare to other countries at least now.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Alex Jones is pro-BTC, says his store will begin to accept as payment... on: August 08, 2014, 01:42:21 AM
As for online merchant, bitcoin is quicker and low fee, the only problem is less people use it now, finally it will became the best way or at least one way like credit card works
18  Economy / Speculation / Why does bitcoin increase by 64% since April ? on: May 30, 2014, 09:04:55 AM

Recently ,bitcoin price increases again .
Coindesk shows that bitcoin price increases from 360dollars on 10th April to 590dollars on 27th May .

The trend changes
We can see the picture that bitcoin is first over the average line of 50 days .
Investors can see bitcoin price changes between different average lines ,and the price gradually stabilizes .
Turnover change

The turnover is about 16000dollars every day since 18th May .But from 19th May to 26th May ,the turnover is about 41000trunk bitcoin .
Why ?
Compared with the price trend before,less relative news affect bitcoin price recently .Maybe the demand and use of commercial bitcoin impels its price increasing .
However ,its commercial amount keeps stable recently as follows :

Recently ,board of directors of Ebay is confidence in bitcoin future ,and it will attach bitcoin to Paypal .
Though Chinese payment attacks bitcoin ,Chinese trading places are still running reluctantly .In fact ,the trading amount of BTC China is increasing .
Moreover ,the trading amount of a bitcoin payment company called bitpay is about 100,0000 dollars every day .


Remaks: Due to language difference, sometimes people out of China canít know what happened in China quickly. so we are here to make effort to change little, we will translate 3-4 bitcoin news in China to English everyday to help people out of China know what happened and what people thinks about bitcoin in China, If somewhere translate not that good, pls PM us so that we can  correct it.
Source http://tech.163.com/14/0529/17/9TE9N0R400094ODU.html
19  Other / Beginners & Help / Twenty amazing secrets about bitcoin on: May 30, 2014, 08:55:31 AM

1.interesting programming money



Bitcoin wallet is like individual credit card ,you can set and save your bitcoin .Some new wallet version can programme it .
You can set some functions like GPS on your mobile phone .If your children leave the city ,it can lead the wallet not to close .
You also can set ďtreasure hunting Ēprocedure .If you use in correct places and time ,the coin will release suddenly .
You can set a date to use bitcoin Ėthe bitcoin must be used until their 18-year-old birthday or Christmas .

2.using bitcoin to buy physical goods first



Bitcoin price is not set by any committees or governments .
The citizen Laszo Hanyez from florida may be famous for buying the most expensive pizza .He also creates the history to buy physical goods by bitcoin first .
He bought 2 pizzas (about 30dollars )from Papa Johnís Pizzas
By 10000trunk bitcoin on June ,2010.The price is about 5 million dollars today .
At that time ,one bitcoin is about 0.33 dollars .
3.Bitcoin creates billionaires .



Bitcoin price increased from 13dollars to 1000dollars in 2013.
According to the speed ,today, people who own 1 bitcoin will be a millionaire within 2 years .
4.Bitcoin is not alone .



Since bitcoin is popular ,people have created millions of other digital currency .Litecoin ,dotcoin ,dogcoin and others .  
Millions of people buy replacing currency ,expecting bitcoin miracle will appear in other currency again .
5.The fastest mega computer in the world .



Recently ,the calculating ability to protect bitcoin network is 6000 times stronger than the group of mega computers from Fortune Global 500.


6.Bitcoin wallet is amazing .


Before buying bitcoin ,you can set your individual bitcoin wallet .Its ID amount is the same as atomicity .
So you can set endless wallets and they are free .New wallets can be used two or more passwords to protect .
7.Bitcoin on the mobile phone



Recently ,25-dollar mobile phones are developed .
Itís estimated that mobile phones on the world is more than humans .
Many poor countries use mobile phones rather than cable telephones .
Without electric supply ,they use solar energy to charge every day .
Most people from developing countries donít go to banks ,but banks can send them bitcoin and mobile phones .
Sending digital currency has been proved to help villages move off poorness .It also expands their world .
8.Bitcoin trading places



Gathering Online EXchangeĒ。
The first online bitcoin trading place is Mt.Gox .Its name is ďMagic The Gathering Online Exchange Ē.
Its trading amount is high .When bitcoin value is less than 1 dollars ,it has been founded .
However ,when prople found that bitcoin can make more money than cards ,the company is over burthen .
More than half trading places have closed .
In America ,large financial companies are building up their trading places ,which may be supervised and protected .
9.give up bitcoin but not bit .



Recently ,one bitcoin is divided into 8 decimals .
Bitcoin community chooses to divide bitcc into 6 decimals ,its unit is bit .
Bit is a part of bitcoin .You should spend 1 million bit in buying one bitcoin .
Today ,100 dollars can buy 0.2 bitcoin or 200,000bit .The amount is the same ,but which may let you feel much richer ?
10.your account is on a dot .
In the future ,bitcoin billionaires will save their bitcoin in a dot .
When you use internet ,you can input your account and password .
Your account will be saved on public account book .You can read it through internet .
11.Forget money laundering ,otherwise ,your behavior will be recorded



Any trade will be recorded by the public account book and will be shared .It can not be changed .
After bitcoin trade ,the record will be saved forever .You can open or close your wallet information and control its confidential degree freely .
Once bitcoin is transferred to some public wallet address ,the trade will be kept track secretly .
12.most trade is born in gambling .



The gambling website ďatoshidice Ēhas gained about half trading amount of bitcoin .
Provably Fair is a website ,which can verify the times clients gamble by an independent probabilistic system ,Moreover ,it has been proved to be fair through mathematics .
13.Who trade with paper money ?



Flat leak shows in time that who is using legal currency to buy or sell bitcoin in the world .
14.bitcoin may be legal currency in some poor countries



Bitcoin total value is over the value of 100 kinds of legal currency from 160 countries .Some people inquire whether someday its legal currency will be replaced by bitcoin .
15.Bitcoin is more important than internet .



Large companies invest several hundred million dollars to small bitcoin companies in 2014.。
Experts and scientists often talk about whether bitcoin and internet can change the world ,and which is more important .
Marc Andreessen,
Marc Andreessen,one of the experts talking about bitcoin , has developed the first WEB browser Mosaic.He often recalls how his friend and he changes internet .
As reference ,most Americans use internet after 7 years .
16.Pay more attention to bitcoin network growth .



As time goes by ,bitcoin network builds up and grows up all over the world gradually .Its development is similar to the internet .
17.Stealing money may not happen in the future .



New digital wallet need at least two passwords ,or more .
It includes the marauding from government to public because many countries can gain peopleís bank accounts easily .
Individuals can add more passwords .
18.prevent Stealing



Bitcoin payment is equivalent to cash ,so retailers donít need bank accounts .
If they use bitcoin payment , hackers attack (Neiman marcus and Michael)will not happen .
Bitcoin payment is not payment promise ,itís full payment .
19.No authorization



Many people donít have bank accounts all over the world ,so they can not borrow money .
Bitcoin donít need any bank accounts or trust guarantee .They can buy or sell anything on any market by bitcoin .They donít need the authorization from the court .
You are your bank ,you donít need any authorization .
20.As currency ,bitcoin starts just now .



Bitcoin network and chain have the functions ,including recording owners ,headline ,copyright ,trademark ,family and cars and so on .Itís notary .
All records are dispersed .Node information are shared and copied to computers by the whole bitcoin network .Individual work is to transfer fund from one account to another ,It need learning because the process can be automatic.


Remaks: Due to language difference, sometimes people out of China canít know what happened in China quickly. so we are here to make effort to change little, we will translate 3-4 bitcoin news in China to English everyday to help people out of China know what happened and what people thinks about bitcoin in China, If somewhere translate not that good, pls PM us so that we can  correct it.
Source http://www.yibite.com/article-3522-1.html
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin VS Gold :who is the winner ? on: May 29, 2014, 09:13:51 AM

With many common characteristics ,Bitcoin is called ďGold 2.0Ē.So maybe we should hold a competition between gold 1.0 and gold 2.0.
There are the judging Standard ĖSix attribute of currency :
Durability
Convenience
Separation
Replacement
Limited supply
Acceptance
Durability
Gold is one of the most durable material on the global .Itís really rare goods .
Bitcoin may be destroyed when mining ,but the condition hasnít happened .However ,if the hard disk with secret key is buried in the refuse landfill ,the unit of Bitcoin may be gone forever .Each unit of Bitcoin are written in the public record .We can predict what will happen in the future ,but until now ,Bitcoin running is great .However ,Bitcoin is only an experience ,so gold gains one point .

Winner :gold
 Convenience
A 0.2 million dollars house need 12 pound gold .Moreover ,its quality is also a problem .Then safety and insurance are the important problems .If you want to transfer a large amount of gold transnationally ,first you must estimate the fee and safety .So if your house is located on other countries ,you should pay 2 more pound gold for other fee .
 However ,you can use Internet transfer Bitcoin through the world .It is so fast with no insurance or fee .

Winner :Bitcoin
 Separation
Gold can be divided into small pieces ,but it may cost high cost .Moreover ,not everybody can divide gold exact .In technology ,using science and expensive equipment to divide gold is possible .But in fact ,itís difficult to do .
 However ,everybody can divide Bitcoin into 8 decimal points .Moreover ,you can create endless free wallet to save your Bitcoin value if you want .

 Winner :Bitcoin
 Replacement
 The exactness and value of an unit and another unit should be very similar .However ,gold can be undiluted .And gold may be casted with other metal.
But Bitcoin will not .If you donít have several millions dollars investment ,you cant falsify Bitcoin .And the profit may be short .Moreover ,add sum up all Bitcoin value is 100%.

 Winner :Bitcoin
 Limited supply
Gold supply is limited .In the history ,gold can be filled with a tennis court .So itís more difficult to seek gold .Whatís more ,if there is a enormous discovery ,gold price will be low.
 Bitcoin supply has serious rule and it may be published ended in 2140.We write up the contract according to issuance amount .So Bitcoin supply is more limited than gold .

 Winner :Bitcoin
Acceptance
 Gold can be exchanged into other precious metal ,but actually little commercial activity accepts gold as payment .Because its identification is very difficult .Moreover ,gold is difficult to change .
 However ,many areas accept bitcoin .Moreover ,bitcoin trading places are everywhere ,and you can be connected with banks directly .Bitcoin trend is that more companies will join in its group .With more confidence in bitcoin value ,its acceptance is increasing .As the investors from Wall Street pay more attention to bitcoin ,more and more people care about it .

 Winner :Bitcoin
Summary
  
5:1,bitcoin is the winner absolutely .


Remaks: Due to language difference, sometimes people out of China canít know what happened in China quickly. so we are here to make effort to change little, we will translate 3-4 bitcoin news in China to English everyday to help people out of China know what happened and what people thinks about bitcoin in China, If somewhere translate not that good, pls PM us so that we can  correct it.
Source http://www.yibite.com/article-3514-1.html
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