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601  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] JT Mining Enterprises (JTME) [~3 ghash] NOT A BOND! on: July 08, 2012, 07:32:25 PM

I don't see the price per share as having any effect on the risk, lol Wink.


I didn't say the price has an effect on the risk.  

I'm saying the price is, to me, not worth the risk.  And the market agrees.  Over a full day after your IPO and only 50 BTC have been invested and those were all from the same person.  Also the buy side is 10 at .1 = no demand.

Just sayin'
602  Economy / Securities / Re: Multiple Orders and Availablity and GLBSE on: July 08, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
It's a great idea because all of the bid side liquidity will be increased. It's so hard to move out of a position quickly. Also, more transaction volume means more fees for glbse.

Precisely, it's a win for everyone including GLBSE.

Also, thanks for the answers guys.  It'd still be nice if Nefario could give us a time frame.

Cheers!

Edit: Also if you have ideas for good changes for GLBSE please feel free to hijack this thread.
603  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: July 08, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
Does it have to be a exact number?
I might want to pick up some more shares later on Wink.
So should I just take the amount I am currently holding?
//DeaDTerra

I put how much I plan on having when this happens.  I'm acquiring more as we speak. Smiley
604  Economy / Securities / Re: [FEEDBACK REQUSTED] Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Paths on: July 08, 2012, 05:28:47 PM
BFL singles cost about $15295 and can do 25 Gh, ao 1 Gh = 611 USD
This equipment, bond holders have paid for, is going to be replaced ASIC SC and $29,899 cranks out 1000 Gh - 29 USD per Gh.
Right. The difference in $ per Gh is 21 times.  
What confuses me little bit is this upgrade that replaces my 5 Mh turd with 25 Mh turd (1:1) when I do  not pay you additional 0.25BTC (25% from "IPO?")
Lets say all bond holders pay you 0.25 BTC per bond = outstanding shares 40000 x 0.25 BTC aka you get additional 10 000 BTC for absolutely nothing. (https://glbse.com/api/quantity_trading/GIGAMINING )

I came up with a new cost of $152.09 per GH using your math. That would make it just over 4x. He is offering 5x for the free upgrade path......

using your $611 per GH x 200 = $122,200 + $29,899 = $152,099 / 1000 = $152.09 per GH

$611 / $152.09 = 4.017x

5MH to 25MH is 5x

Sounds like a pretty, damn good deal to me. Unless we are expected to believe that a company owner has 0 right to profit then this is a fine offering imho.


edit; and jsut beacuse I know it will be asked. Even considering the .25BTC upgrade option, if every bond holder utilizes  it, which would then take the upgrade cost to 7x. You are then receiving 20x MH.....  If you need me to I can show the math there as well.

I guess I just don't understand how people who invest don't understand basic math.  Nice explanation for the dumb investors.

Anyway you look at it, it's a good deal.  You win whether you choose to pay or not.  Period.

Also for those who choose not to upgrade for .25 BTC will those shares be paid out to everyone else instead?

605  Economy / Securities / Re: [FEEDBACK REQUSTED] Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Paths on: July 08, 2012, 07:06:13 AM
So even though your upgrade path has already been bought and paid for by your original investors you use this as an opportunity to put even more of these peoples money into your pocket, what a scamming piece of shit.

For the intellectually challenged out there the second offering of 100gh/s in the gigaminning venture has already gave him twice as much as was needed to pay for the upgrade to the th/s boxes. In other words you are paying twice for an upgrade offer to what should be your 100mh/s you would have when those already bought and paid for with your money th/s boxes arrive.

Oh and BTW just where did those four mini-rigs that were supposed to be bought with that second round of funding go?

How am I paying twice to get a free upgrade to 5X per share?

Also, paying .25 (depending on price of BTC at time) is a great deal for 3 more shares at 5X.

So, by not doing anything at all your bond will appreciate to 6.25 BTC from current market value of 1.25 BTC.

But by paying .25 BTC you've increased your stake 4 fold to a 25 BTC per gigamining share valuation from current market value of 1.25 BTC.

It's what's called a win-win.

606  Economy / Securities / Multiple Orders and Availablity and GLBSE on: July 08, 2012, 03:34:43 AM
I'd like to be able to make more orders than what is available to me and just let what gets filled first use up my balance.  Is that something that could be implemented?  I think more trades would happen as a result of this change.

Also, what about being able to cancel an open order from the asset page?  Can this be implemented?  It would make for more competitive bidding.  Like right now I have this guy that keeps putting his bid a satoshi higher than me.  I have to keep going from the asset page to my portfolio back to the asset page.  It would be a real time saver.

Sincerely,

A new GLBSE user.

Nefario?
607  Economy / Securities / Re: [FEEDBACK REQUSTED] Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Paths on: July 08, 2012, 02:12:14 AM
I see the price is rising Grin

This is a good reason to BUY gigamining! The only way you're getting teramining.

BTW, I'm not selling. Little mad I didn't buy more at 0.95

Better get your bids in.  The buy side isn't moving.
608  Economy / Securities / Re: [FEEDBACK REQUSTED] Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Paths on: July 08, 2012, 02:00:25 AM
This is a good reason to BUY gigamining! The only way you're getting teramining.

The only question now remains will giga still be king?  Or can other mining companies match or beat his offer?
609  Economy / Securities / Re: BTCSYN reports a $12k (1,852 BTC) theft on: July 08, 2012, 01:40:14 AM
"I won't be back."

Didn't see that.  Wow.  Pretty obvious what happened here now.
610  Economy / Securities / Re: BTCSYN reports a $12k (1,852 BTC) theft on: July 08, 2012, 01:05:38 AM
they were a very far cry from being grossly negligent.


Yes they are negligent.

Also, if you've done nothing wrong then allow trading to resume and let people "cash out".

611  Economy / Securities / Re: [FEEDBACK REQUSTED] Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Paths on: July 07, 2012, 09:15:52 PM
GigaVPS is the only miner with whom I am familiar (hur hur) who is making a significant capital and operational investment in commercial-grade infrastructure.

BITBOND is another quality mining infrastructure and a larger scale than Gigavps's. If I recall Gigavps even has some equipment in one of BITBOND's facilities.

The problem I have with BITBOND is they have no intention or ability to upgrade when ASIC come.  It's a losing bet now.
612  Economy / Securities / Re: BTCSYN reports a $12k (1,852 BTC) theft on: July 07, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
How convenient! This has been pulled far too many times in this community.

Feel the same.  If you don't protect/change your passwords and don't have a 2 step auth in place.  I'm not investing with you.  You aren't responsible enough to have my bitcoin.  Period.

The only surprising thing for me is that their bond price hasn't tanked.
613  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] JT Mining Enterprises (JTME) [~3 ghash] NOT A BOND! on: July 07, 2012, 08:27:47 PM
Funds will be held in Pirate pass thrus drawing interest until purchases of ASIC's are made.

And this is where you lost me.  If I wanted to "hold" my funds in pirate I would.

So basically I'm at two HUGE risk factors?  Pirate and "getting lucky" with ASIC?

You don't see 1 BTC as a little high for taking the risk we're taking?
614  Economy / Services / Re: Gigamining / Teramining on: July 07, 2012, 06:17:09 PM
me likey!
615  Economy / Securities / Re: [FEEDBACK REQUSTED] Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Paths on: July 07, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
I have to say I was skeptical about the upgrade process but I like what I've read so far.

Cheers.

Quote from: dishwara
I bought some Gigamining bonds at the rate of 1.5 BTC. Now it seems i have to pay another 0.25 BTC/per bond to get Teramining bonds.........

Someone knows something which I don't.

You obviously didn't read the whole first post.  Or didn't understand it.
616  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Not afraid of a little risk? Get up to 1% daily! - OBSI.HRPT on: July 05, 2012, 03:41:39 PM
Then I thought about the fact that this would only work by being secretive about my "business", (Nefario doesn't allow open ponzis on his exchange) and I wouldn't be happy with people loosing money in the end while trusting only me. Even if I tell I "only pass through" it's somehow my reputation.

It's interesting to see now not just pass throughs to a "business" (pirate) where nobody really know what it's about but a pass through to a "business" that's even completely undisclosed.

Seriously, I'm getting sick of all this secrecy.  All of this, "Invest in my shit and you'll make X% a day/week/month.  Though, I'm not telling you what "this" or "they" actually are" needs to end now.

Fuck this, are we investing or are we a bunch of idiots walking around throwing bitcoin out to whoever pays the highest %?

Disclose who and what we are investing in, or take a hike.

As a person new to the GLBSE I'm getting more turned off by the DAY!
617  Economy / Securities / Re: I know what Pirate's doing on: July 05, 2012, 07:11:02 AM
Not trying to figure it out because I would do it, but just because these attacks seem to have become strangely programmatic and motivated in the last couple of days.

You know what I find amazing.  Asking him flat out what he's doing and having him flat out say he won't say.  And people are okay with this? 


For the millioneth time, what business is it of yours what other people do with their own money?

You think people are crazy for investing, well whoopdedoo.  Remind me why I should give a shit.

Are you serious?  I just explained why.


Oh, you explained why you're qualified to speak for everyone else and decide for them how they should invest their own cash? 

Again, I couldn't care less what you do with your money, please extend the same courtesy to everyone else.    I don't care what you or anyone else thinks.

No, I didn't do that either. 

You need to take some meds or up the dosage or something.

Later
618  Economy / Securities / Re: I know what Pirate's doing on: July 05, 2012, 07:04:03 AM
Not trying to figure it out because I would do it, but just because these attacks seem to have become strangely programmatic and motivated in the last couple of days.

You know what I find amazing.  Asking him flat out what he's doing and having him flat out say he won't say.  And people are okay with this? 


For the millioneth time, what business is it of yours what other people do with their own money?

You think people are crazy for investing, well whoopdedoo.  Remind me why I should give a shit.

Are you serious?  I just explained why.
619  Economy / Securities / Re: I know what Pirate's doing on: July 05, 2012, 06:55:00 AM
Not trying to figure it out because I would do it, but just because these attacks seem to have become strangely programmatic and motivated in the last couple of days.

You know what I find amazing.  Asking him flat out what he's doing and having him flat out say he won't say.  And people are okay with this?  I see some of the biggest names on the GLBSE backing him like he's a god.  I'm seriously thinking of pulling all my bitcoin out of the GLBSE.  I just got started here and I don't think I want to be a part of this.  Whatever "this" is.

This is just from someone that has stumbled across the GLBSE within the last couple months.  A person with capital to invest but has a serious issue with how the people he invests with invests their money.

Have you all done lost your minds?
620  Economy / Securities / Re: BS&T -- Are you staying or leaving? on: July 05, 2012, 01:08:06 AM
You don't have a shred of evidence or even an idea of what I do.

Um, I think this is the problem.

So stay away, don't trust me.  There is nothing else I can tell you.

Exactly.  All you whingers who don't want to invest.  Don't.

It's really as simple as that.

Yes, don't ask questions.  Just take your cut!  Hurry now, time is limited.

lol.  wow.
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