4x 5970 with current difficulty is slightly above 30BTC per day.

That's your opinion. Excuse me, but I'm tired by explaining same things again for the same people who don't understand simple graphs.


How is invalid share related to score system? And why are you 'hitting stop and start as fast as humanly fucking possible'? Sorry, I had to miss something here.


Are you talking about block validations? Block is checked after next 90 blocks. If block is invalid, it's marked on stats page. Otherwise the reward is distributed after 100 confirmations.

Looks like bug, but I never see it before. Now I'm not at home so I marked the block as invalid manually. From blockexplorer it looks like the block is ours, but I have to search logs and see what exactly happen. If block is really ours, I'll mark it as valid and distribute the reward for it, of course.

It requires much complicated gui also for people not interested in monitoring each workers separately. I also though about this but rejected the idea of 'subaccounts'. But you can register multiple accounts with same email, so feel free to create more separate registrations for each worker...

Monitoring on stats page is realtime (calculated from block number and current block height), but rewards are calculated once per hour, so there is some latency.

You mean that estimated reward is going down? I have simple advice - don't turn off your mining machine

To be serious - it's of course expected, as fast the estimated reward is going down when you disconnect, as fast it is climbing up when you connnect, so no difference here. Of course you can be unlucky and disconnect few minutes before block is found; but - come on - there is a block every half of hour, you don't lose such big money .

I must agree, "mining" isn't good term at all. Miners are not mining anything, they do the hashing and they accept bitcoins from the network for this job. Every time I explained it using "mining" term, I failed because it really sounds like game. I'm using "signing transactions", it sound more "enterprise" and gives me higher success rate .

Afaik bitpenny was around 70Ghash, some people mentioned that on forum (but I don't know original source, maybe bitpenny's IRC channel?).

Hard to believe that there is one of us trying to hurt bitcoin economy; sabotage can be (effectively) performed only with large mining rig. The motivation can be pretty clear - by killing pools, you'll have lower difficulty in the future...

xenon, thanks for the answer . Text on homepage need some update, as it describes share based system and not score based .But it will makes things harder to explain and the description of share based system still +/- fits.

OneFixt, I'm pretty unhappy that you are in red numbers, because your pool was very fair competitor. Did you do some analysis why the pool performed under 10% of teoretic income? It can be very long period of bad luck, but I feel that you were target of sabotage (of course it's just my feeling, I don't have hard data). There are people trying to hurt pools; almost every pool was DDoSed and I saw many tries of hacking. This experience was the reason why I rejected PPS model on my pool, so I'm curious if I was right...

That happen? Pool added you a reward and then removed it?

Today I had similar problems as mndrix had; bitcoind freezed during payouts. It was second time in pool history, but firstly with sendmany command.

mndrix, did you succesfully tested jgarzik's patch?

Yes

You win, I processed it now (damn my compulsive disorder). So everything is fixed, payments are automatic again.

To monitoring: Do you really think that sms wake up ME? Definitely not . I have some monitoring on the pool (including http status of site), but I'm usually unawakeable.

Looks like you never sleep, right?

Bitcoind crashed hour after I went to bed, sorry for the troubles. It looks like similar problems as mndrix reported; bitcoind freezed during payouts (again). The freeze didn't affect mining, only web server and it is up again.

Unfortunately it freezed during payouts, so I had to stop automatic payments and have to process payments later manually. It will be done tomorrow, as my today's plan is quite different than pairing hundreds of transactions.

Please be clear. Do you reject my 3ghash rig from your pool? How can I mine for you and don't help to solve blocks? I also don't understand how it is different if the hopper will be somebody else than me.

I changed your password in database, page should work now. Sorry for troubles, I'll repair profile page to support full utf8 during weekend.

Excuse me, but this is not correct. You're also 'penalized' (well, I don't think it is penalty, but call it for now) when you're connecting in share-based pool in middle of the round; your round reward will be always significantly lower in those rounds. Did you realized that after connecting in the middle of score-based pool, your round reward is going up (to expected value as for all-time mining) very fast?

You probably don't understand - I cannot test pool hoping on my own pool, because it is mostly resistant against this type of attack. But as you don't believe that this attack is possible, you should be fine that I'll contribute my 2-3ghash to your pool, right? I want to be absolutely clear; I'm asking because I don't want to be accused later that I'm attackng your pool.

You have two possibilities:
a) Be fine with my test, because you are sure that pool switching attack is nonsense
b) Ban me (I'll use my public credentials, no hiding), but disclose that you're affraid of switching users

And I'm doing all this because YOU don't believe Raulo's math and YOU are asking for real-world proof. (And it will brings me few bitcoins as a bonus.)