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It is quite clear that I was pointing out the hypocrisy of your stance on free speech. "Truth" and "free speech" are not synonymous. That being said, devthedev actually wrote the truth by your own admission and you're bitching about it. You might change your sig to "I'm a hypocrite and I'm proud of it".
I either don't understand you or we live in different dimensions. "False" accusations are free speech too, then. So if I leave a negative feedback to an "innocent" user claiming it's a scammer, it is "truth". So it might be in the future. |
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Glad that the devs sorted the things out. Now back to the moon!
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Recently I was left a negative feedback by devthedev based on his personal dislike toward me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696031.msg17388605#msg17388605This forum has always attracted me with free speech - it is one of the places where it's possible freely discuss different things/issues which other "free speech" forums do not tolerate. Well, maybe I'm a bigot and racist but it's not a reason to leave negative feedback for it because it's supposed to be used to show one's trust, not political/religious views or personal dislikes. What if I leave someone a negative feedback for being a feminist just because I don't like feminists? I conciser this movement harmful. Would it be fair?
What do you thank about such "feedback"? Any comment from mods/admins? "Something you don't like doesn't mean bad." Sure, why not? Leave negative feedback for anyone who has ever used the letter "z" in any of their posts if you want. If you are on default trust, you will probably quickly be removed, otherwise, you are completely entitled to your opinions. If someone shares the same opinion and doesn't find you trustworthy because you have used the letter "z" in your posts, then they will value that feedback. Else, they will disregard it. I refuse to believe that feedback has a numerical score. If someone want to judge someone's trustworthiness based on the letters they use in their posts, their gender, or any offensive comments they make, that is completely on them. I don't typically think someone's personal beliefs are a good indicator of trustworthiness, but sometimes it can play a factor. There are very few rules when it comes to feedback. People can interpret it however they way. So you are ok with me leaving random people negative fb? A reason for it can be like "a shitty person; don't trade with it" and it would be fair to leave such a feedback if I don't like that person. It's a trust system - not necessarily related to trading activity. Trust paths matter (or should matter..). You can show what you think about persons trust ratings in your own rating towards the person.
Actually it's totally related to it! "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" - do you see that? I can't be traded with because I'm racist! Also, the thread was moved to "Trading Discussion > Reputation". There are three ways to get your feedback back to neutral: - Have a counter rating put on your account.
A counter rating will be a positive trust rating from another DT member that trusts you. This will counter the negative and should (I think) revert your feedback to 0. This probably isn't the best though, as the negative would still be there. - Ask the user to remove it.
No one else removes trust ratings other than the person that put them there originally. - Have the person that included the user in the DT network remove them.
In this case, it would be Blazed. If you can persuade them (or two other DT1 members) to remove/exclude the user from the DT network. This will automatically remove your feedback from being seen by default.
Other than that, there is little you can do. Sorry. Thanks. Might try that. Edit: I'm wondering what if a trusted member leaves a negative fb for a member whose account is suspected to be hacked and later the user proves it's not hacked. But the trusted member dies/leaves the forum. What's that user supposed to do? Recently I was left a negative feedback by devthedev based on his personal dislike toward me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696031.msg17388605#msg17388605This forum has always attracted me with free speech - it is one of the places where it's possible freely discuss different things/issues which other "free speech" forums do not tolerate. Well, maybe I'm a bigot and racist but it's not a reason to leave negative feedback for it because it's supposed to be used to show one's trust, not political/religious views or personal dislikes. What if I leave someone a negative feedback for being a feminist just because I don't like feminists? I conciser this movement harmful. Would it be fair? What do you thank about such "feedback"? Any comment from mods/admins? "Something you don't like doesn't mean bad." This reads to me as though you want to have your free speech while simultaneously censoring another's. "Smells like leftist butthurt" - GreedCensoring what truth? I ain't removing any messages - you can easily find out that I'm racist and bigot by searching my posts. Well, I can even leave a note in my sig like "I'm a racist and I'm proud of it". |
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I like to think that it's up to whoever reviews the feedback left to validate it.
For instance, not trusting someone because of their sex is a ridiculous claim to me. I will disregard the negative rating.
The same goes for someone leaving positive feedback to someone else because they are "anti-racist".
It's unfortunate that your trust blatantly shows red because a single person on default trust left a negative.
I wish something would change about that.
That is right because the feedback exactly is "Racist and bigot. See reference". It has NOTHING to do with trading. Being a racist/anti-feminist/gay/Muslim doesn't make any sense when it comes to trading (exchanging , buying, etc). And this "trust" is supposed to be a system you can lean on when you trade with a member. If someone needs to find out if I'm a racist and bigot or something he/she can find my messages and make a decision whether deal with me or not. This feedback should be removed. @ -Greed- I read your comments about that topic & oppss that's something derogatory. Anyway, that's your opinion & I have nothing to do with that. And if someone is leaving you a negative feedback, then, it's their own judgment call.
And it has been stated that there are no rules on leaving such feedback, only guidelines. So I think it is his prerogative to do such act (maybe he has reasons to do that).
I'm glad to hear that you have nothing to with my views no matter how bad they are in your eyes. Well, if there are no rules on the system it can be easily abused and needs to be fixed. |
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First of all, the feedback I got was completely based on one's subjective opinion ("We are all just different shades of brown, we are one race") and personal dislike ("I don't like him I will leave him a negative feedback"). That's what I'm trying to say.
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I added a trust system to the marketplace sections. When you're logged in, you'll now see something like this next to Marketplace posts: Trust: 1: -0 / +12(3) The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts. These scores are taken from your trust network. They are not global scores. You can edit your trust network here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trustIf your trust depth is set to 2 (the default), you will trust feedback by people you trust, people they trust, and people they trust. I might change the default in the future; we'll see how this works. Your trust list is public. On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines: - List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score. - Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts. - Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it. - "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting. - It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade. - If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating. If your trust list is totally empty, you trust "DefaultTrust", which includes some trustworthy people that I'll select. But if you add anyone to your trust list, even if they don't trust anyone, DefaultTrust will no longer be considered part of your trust list. In the near future I'll add these same ratings to PMs. Tell me if you see any bugs. I didn't test this much yet. Or more specifically It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
I would actually have a harder time trusting someone that makes comments similar to yours. In that sense, I'm okay with someone pointing it out with the trust system. In other words, a racist can't be trusted meanwhile let's say an anti-racist should be trusted by default. Am I getting right your words? You cannot trade with a racist thinking that he/she is tend to be scammer and no suspicion to a normal user. What does it have to do with reality? Update: About the person in general? How in general? Let's say a user is a woman. Women tend to lie. Should I leave a negative feedback like "don't trust this member; might be a liar". |
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Recently I was left a negative feedback by devthedev based on his personal dislike toward me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696031.msg17388605#msg17388605This forum has always attracted me with free speech - it is one of the places where it's possible freely discuss different things/issues which other "free speech" forums do not tolerate. Well, maybe I'm a bigot and racist but it's not a reason to leave negative feedback for it because it's supposed to be used to show one's trust, not political/religious views or personal dislikes. What if I leave someone a negative feedback for being a feminist just because I don't like feminists? I conciser this movement harmful. Would it be fair? What do you thank about such "feedback"? Any comment from mods/admins? "Something you don't like doesn't mean bad." |
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По 1500$, по 10000$ и даже по ляму долларов за биток будет! Вот-вот, скоро-скоро!.. Раз так в СМИ говорят, значит обвал не за горами. Альткоины, которые пампали, уже полетели... Сейчас манипуляторы рынка соберут битки с альтов и начнут лить биток.
Ну альты обычно летят вниз на фоне подъёма битка, а вот ежели курс устаканится то посмотрим. А так, вроде бы динамики не видно даже на 1000 в ближайшее время, а по идее после нового года обычно коррекция наступает. Эфир вот уже как минимум пару месяцев летит в пропасть, а за ним и остальные альты (раньше за лайткоином налюдалась такаядинамика, ныне его заменил эфириум). И падение это началось еще в сентябре, когда биткоин был относительно стабилен. Лично я считаю (и не только я, по графиками это вполне очевидно) что эфир пампали, также как и биткоин. Ясен песь, это не может продолжаться вечно, манипуляторам надо как-то получить прибыль. Так вот, сейчас череда эфира. Слив его, и, соответственно, получив бтц, следует начать лить его по завышенной цене. |
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I hope you devs sort out the things because I used this great opportunity to buy more tokens.
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По 1500$, по 10000$ и даже по ляму долларов за биток будет! Вот-вот, скоро-скоро!.. Раз так в СМИ говорят, значит обвал не за горами. Альткоины, которые пампали, уже полетели... Сейчас манипуляторы рынка соберут битки с альтов и начнут лить биток.
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Why are you basing a whole race on the basis of pigments in the skin? The reason that they may be the least intelligent is because of them being labelled daily by the media. They will see that black people are stereotyped be aggressive, be in gangs and follow a self fulfilling prophecy
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Researches show that blacks in other countries have even lower IQ (85 in the US vs. 70 in Africa). |
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You are not right to say something like this.
If you want to compare people, they must have the same basis, it means the same life, education, experience etc.
If not, it's natural that person who is more educate, experienced etc. will have better results in any research about such subject.
If you replace white and black child, and white child send to Africa, and black to America, who will be smarter than?
What do you think?
If you give them equal opportunity, you will find out that blacks are intelligent and smart as any white man.
Daniel, what can you say about birth control for black people in Israel? I think it's a terrible crime! It is worse than Holocaust! This is beyond racism. Genocide. Pure fascism. Israel needs to be more tolerant and fight racism; break the wall and let the respected asylum seekers in. Refugees welcome! I wish your children playing with black migrant children. |
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I would rather fuck a goat than this "woman".
WOW, this is Why You are publishing this topic? In that way Crypto Goat Fuc#ers are hidden behind ritoric about Skin Color. The White/Yellow skin Mutants have the origin in Africa, this is a scentific fact. But Goat Fuc#ing will conduct to new skin colour, are You just working on this issue? http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/table_of_malcontents/images/antismoking.jpgDo You have some impression about Black Goats? Obviously I was sarcastic. That's what I'm taking about. The Singaporean positive eugenics experience should be spread across the world before it's too late. The point of it is to stimulate people with high IQ/good edu make more children and limit ones with low IQ/bad education. Unfortunately nowadays this is absolutely not acceptable for the Western world as it's considered "totally discriminative, racist and bigot".
There is only one solution for this. The low IQ people must be sterilized after just one birth per couple. They should not be allowed to make dozens of children each. Very radical but I like it! You late ass motherfucker with your racist dribble. I am white but know many very intelligent black people. You sir give the human race in general a bad look, what a dirt bag. MODS DELETE THIS SHIT THREAD AND BAN THIS SHIT CUNT.
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Well, I'm just tired of hearing the equality shit. Actually I feel sorry for them and wish they could be smart. With more intelligent people we could reach the singularity much quicker. Instead of it we may never reach it because of white population being in decline meanwhile low-level shit like niggers, sand niggers and other scum are taking over. The educated people are having less children. As the IQ increases, the birth rate decreases almost proportionally. The groups with the highest IQ (such as East Asians and Germans) are having the least number of children. On the other hand, the groups with the least IQ (Arabs, Africans.etc) are having the maximum number of children. That's what I'm taking about. The Singaporean positive eugenics experience should be spread across the world before it's too late. The point of it is to stimulate people with high IQ/good edu make more children and limit ones with low IQ/bad education. Unfortunately nowadays this is absolutely not acceptable for the Western world as it's considered "totally discriminative, racist and bigot". |
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All I can say on the subject is that English blacks are behaving differently then USA blacks or French blacks. USA blacks are the stupidest imho. there are several reasons for that.
1. American culture is stupyfing - A culture argument.
2. They close themselfs in ghettos taking away learning curve opportunities - Genotype contra Fenotype argument
3. They were decendants of slaves that village elders sold to slave masters. In other words they were the stupidest of the stupidest. - Demographics argument.
4. You can say that blackness of skin is somehow related to cognitive difficulties - Hardcore genotype argument.
Im more inclined into a demographic argument. You can see the process of migrating the needy, motivated part of population. and leaving behind unneedy and unmotivated parts of population. Mostly you can see a difference between capital and near capital cities.
If you can see the disparity in living in various part of EU or Africa it doesnt mean nothing else but of exploitation. Not only a resources but human resources as well, that goes into the rich cities.
There are a lot more explanations then just saying blacks are stupid. You need to be more specific. If you unjustifiably generalise its not a good sign of IQ you seem to be proud being white. Or maybe you are not proud of it and you need to find someone that is worse than you. You can always find those is you want, so its not that hard to achieve.
Well, I'm just tired of hearing the equality shit. Actually I feel sorry for them and wish they could be smart. With more intelligent people we could reach the singularity much quicker. Instead of it we may never reach it because of white population being in decline meanwhile low-level shit like niggers, sand niggers and other scum are taking over. President for 8 years in america was a black man.
Lets say you are right, what do you care? are the one feeding them and providing their lives?
If yes then please stop.
A single fly contributes more than you for this earth.
Obama is obviously a puppet owned by white masters/bosses from Wall St. and likely is the worst American president. They [bosses] were managed to fool people this time now they lost the battle. Trump arrived... You mean the God Emperor Trump? I don't think Barrack Osama was influenced that much from the external forces like Hillary is by Soros, still there might be some jew in the background. Trump is the only American hope. There's a good move about Mr. Obama that you should watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLwIt's just a conspiracy but anyway I highly recommend to watch. How disgusting this creature is! I would rather fuck a goat than this "woman". |
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President for 8 years in america was a black man.
Lets say you are right, what do you care? are the one feeding them and providing their lives?
If yes then please stop.
A single fly contributes more than you for this earth.
Obama is obviously a puppet owned by white masters/bosses from Wall St. and likely is the worst American president. They [bosses] were managed to fool people this time now they lost the battle. Trump arrived... |
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If you say that Blacks are the least intelligent people I would want to know on which basis? Definitely not on the basis of pictures you posted there because everywhere in the world there are slums and there are cities. But I also want you to also separate and also be more specific. Are you referring to "BLACKS" in Africa or "BLACKS" anywhere in the world because those pictures are definitely in Africa.
And what will you say about the Blacks that have helped build the systems of the world or the ones that have fought on the side of the Whites or the one that is leading the "FREE WORLD" now etc...
In every climes there are smart people and dull people finally "STUPIDITY AND FOOLISHNESS IS NOT MONOPOLY TO ANYONE"
Based on IQ testing. Most known research is The bell curve.  |
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All these buildings were built by black slaves ruled by white masters. Without hated white enslavers these niggers live in an never-ending crisis and poverty. If You check at Ukraine
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...and I stopped reading at this point. Niggers who bought laptops for oil money created by whites and(or) east asians. Lol, the guy marking the presentation is actually white. Even comparing niggers' best vs. Europeans' worst make us look better. There are no such thing as the least intelligent race but per se there should be a least intelligent individual. Different colors and different races has somebody who are highly intelligent and of course highly dumb individual. But for me its not about how much you learn its about how you choose to live your life. You may be intellectual but your life choices are wrong then you maybe dumb for a reason.
~ Heya everyone. Today I want to discuss with you an unpleasant subject. The subject is racial differences in intelligence. Let's be honest - black people are the dumbest race on this planet. Some time ago (I swear to God it was good times!) they were classified as animals. How can YOU think we are equal? Race Differences in Intelligencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJNVb0GnPI Oh man, you can't be serious! The intelligence has nothing to do with race and I think you know this. Your post reminded me of my favourite scene in the film I love, In Bruges (2008). So thanks for that, I laughed, and now I'm going to watch that movie again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4REO0pucYY8You should watch the video. The observation of living on people with high IQ have give them no economic advantages in various countries around the globe.
They have no capacity to use this "High IQ" to make money.
Here is a picture battle, on the base of how are living Sub Saharian Africans.
I hope, that pictures, in this topic are showing clearly, that Sub Saharian Africans have in some cases better living than in some European Countries.
Of course it does. |
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