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on: August 19, 2015, 12:32:36 AM
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...JWinterm, we need a moderated thread.
I really lean towards keeping things unmoderated. I think stoat's posts (here and in other threads) make it clear that he/she isn't interested in civil discourse and rational discussion. I almost think that stoat is deliberately being obnoxious to drive people away from Ethereum because its supporters are so obnoxious...almost. Anyway, I'll try and make some of the suggested updates and possibly a few more later tonight. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 18, 2015, 07:58:36 PM
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I like how there were links posted. I think more claims on this chart need to be backed up with links. Actually, every single square should have a link I guess.
I totally agree re:links in every box. Any reasonable links provided will be added, |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 18, 2015, 03:18:08 PM
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Hey all, please add Syscoin to this list: current/total supply: 485million/2 billion initial distribution: proof-of-work inflationary/deflationary: Inflationary until 2Billion is reached Consensus mechanism: proof-of-work block target time: 60 seconds recommended time for confirmation: 6 blocks transaction load: ? transaction fee costs: varies based on transaction type founders: Sebastian Schepis, Dan Wasyluk, Jonny Heald, Sebastien DiMichele, Soeren Pedersen, Mike Wheeler development team: http://syscoin.org/teamautomated (turing complete): Currently in development Atomic (cross-chain): X Asset creation: Currently in development Asset exchange: X via Supernet (in development) Market pegged assets: Currently in development Encrypted messaging: Yes; All QT wallets allow encrypted messaging. Blockchain Multisig: currently in development Marketplace: Yes (designed directly on the blockchain, can currently use via wallet console) Voting system: currently in development Privacy features: Like NXT, Syscoin is a superNET coin which will leverage this from the superNET Decentralized applications: YES: blockmarket, Turing complete will leverage many more. Centralized Apps: n/a but possible Plugin / (D)App Store: in development Unique features: Commands all currently implemented on the blockchain: Marketplace, Aliases, Data store, certificate issuance. Thanks for the run-down. I'll consider it. Another one I saw was NXT Horizon(s?), not sure if it's still in active development though... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 18, 2015, 03:17:11 PM
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That article seems to be big on press releases and very light on detail. I think the network effect of Ethereum and the Ethereum DAPP ecosystem will render BTC and current Altcoins redundant.
You don't NEED SIDECHAINS in Ethereum so that counterparty press release appears to be complete bollocks.
I think some would argue that sidechains are a better solution, as then the mainchain doesn't have to be so humongous, allowing more people to run nodes and increase decentralization. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 18, 2015, 01:35:07 PM
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Sebastien256, good idea. I'll try to add that this evening. Buratino...maybe. I'll try and play with the colors some more tonight. stoat, I added a disclaimer at the bottom of OP saying which coins I own. I have Ethereum probably the least filled out because I know the least about it, but I do own some, and am not trying to discredit it in anyway. If you actually know anything about it, please share, otherwise feel free to keep bumping the thread  |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation
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on: August 18, 2015, 02:53:46 AM
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Lamest Cryptsy pump ever?
I guess it seems like Polo is moving into #1 altcoin market now. Seemed like Bittrex was gonna takeover for a bit, but I guess they put their hand in the scam ICO cookie jar one too many times, and Bter still lacking in credibility. Seems like with the Ether volume domination, Poloniex is really the boss now.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 17, 2015, 11:28:22 PM
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Few corrections with regard to counterparty:
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Thanks for the info. I really appreciate the links. I'll update the chart later this evening probably. Does counterparty currently have any operational market Pierre assets atm, or is it just hypothetical for now? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 17, 2015, 08:19:46 PM
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Maybe a category for public developer?
In the current political and legal environment... I agree with much of what you said, but if a public developer/founder is a possibly influential and objective aspect of a project, then why not include a row about the founder and current development team? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 17, 2015, 01:25:16 PM
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Thanks for ideas and input Sebastien256, SBOSS, Irontiga, and Brangdon. Also, thanks for message Irontiga I actually have one wikipedia article to my name already, so this would be #2 if I try to set it up there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cecil_JaffeI'll try and update some more this evening or tomorrow...I want to try to figure out how to incorporate Ether's Gas concept versus just paying tx fees for other coins/platforms, but I need to read a bit more about it myself first. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 16, 2015, 06:43:17 PM
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OK, updated rockethead and rwfreshmore. I'd love to get some more examples of actual decentralized applications that are running, in wallet or especially that are accessible by website? Also, I need to look into NEM a bit more. What market pegged assets are the using and what is the mechanism for the peg? I'm also needing to read more about this stuff: Asset backed by another crypto asset - Yes
mutable quantity assets - yes
Time to live assets (with expiration) - yes and maybe add some rows for them. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 16, 2015, 06:00:25 PM
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Updated again. Would like to put examples of what decentralized apps exist (as well as examples of the exchanges, asset creation, etc.), so if you know of them, and especially if you links, please share  Could you change "Anonymous transaction" to "Privacy Features" ? I think it reflects more what they offer (Coinjoin / Stealth Addresses) I hope to see Shadow meeting the requirements soon Good idea. I will update in my spreadsheet now, so next time I upload it will reflect, probably later tonight. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 16, 2015, 05:49:14 PM
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I'm not a fan of shadowcoin, and not sure about whether the market is really decentralized. I believe it is in wallet, but is it just run on a server somewhere?
If you want to call eth a scam, I'd say shadow distribution was more of a scam. I'd rather see an ICO followed by PoW than ninja mine all coins in a few days and then go to PoS, but this thread isn't about casting judgment on distribution methods, just comparing coins.
Maid seems like vaporware to me. I'll be happy to add it if it ever comes off test network.
I agree re: nxt, but it was really the first 2.0, so should definitely be in the table.
Sorry it's Shadow, and the "coin" is ShadowCash . (see https://github.com/ShadowProject) The market will be decentralized, it will run on ShadowChat (decentralized encrypted messaging system), and will use the anonymous features of ShadowCash to do payments & escrow. nb : about the distribution I'm also more into ico distribution than pow ... (and it would have helped a lot to fund the development ...) I prefer PoW, just not when all of the coins are mined within a few days of launch. Anyway, SDC is based on BTC codebase (Blackcoin, apparently), right? I know they've added ring signatures, but I have a hard time calling it a 2.0 when it's forked (in)directly from 1.0, and it doesn't (yet) offer decentralized markets/apps/exchanges/etc. If I add SDC on the basis of anonymity and messaging, then I should add Digital/Dark/Ducknote as well, right? Anyway, I'll consider it after I get a chance to look into the market feature I bit more. I'm leaning towards removing NuShares, so maybe I'll replace it with Shadow. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The 2.0 throwdown thread
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on: August 16, 2015, 05:27:02 PM
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You should remove scam coins and add fair launch coins.
imo btc 2.0 consists of the following:
aeon - mobile friendly version of xmr lightweight as hell cryptonite pow which would be good for iot chips and low power embedded devices. I am buying this all day long right now and have been since smooth took over.
sdc - sdt conversion erasing history an important step in obfuscation along with ring sig and other goodies; the market will create a real world use for it and boom goes the dynamite. ShadowGo is out of control neato as well. I buy this regularly
maybe eth if they actually create a better miner and wallet... but since it only costs 18c to mine right now and they sell for 1.50... that should show you that no one wants to mine it because it is a pain in the ass to mine and move. but as more eth hits the market the saturation will be too tempting for the wallets holding millions and people will dump. the curse of an ICO that even printed 12 million late in the game. I was hoping for a revolution and got a rotten vagina instead. bought it at .002 because i saw a pump coming and dumped at .007. This coin has big money in it so riding the fomo/whale waves isn't horrible if you are safe about it. ride the momentum.
xcp - the burn is concerning. not exactly sure that burning btc really does anything for anyone but I think that if genesis actually drops and the card game blows up and some other stuff happens it could be absolutely nuts. people will build on eth because it is easier but people will build on xcp because it wasn't a scam from the get like eth. But maybe eth was just rushed to launch because they ran out of money.
maid - I want maid to work so bad just for the rollback/refund/safety abilities of this coin and they have some dm plans? this one is one to watch but not buy yet.
also i dont think nxt is ever going to gain any real traction.
I like aeon, but there is at the moment no use of the limited scripting capabilities of cryptonote afaik. By 2.0 I mean capable of decentralized exchanges, markets, applications, etc. I'm not a fan of shadowcoin, and not sure about whether the market is really decentralized. I believe it is in wallet, but is it just run on a server somewhere? If you want to call eth a scam, I'd say shadow distribution was more of a scam. I'd rather see an ICO followed by PoW than ninja mine all coins in a few days and then go to PoS, but this thread isn't about casting judgment on distribution methods, just comparing coins. Maid seems like vaporware to me. I'll be happy to add it if it ever comes off test network. I agree re: nxt, but it was really the first 2.0, so should definitely be in the table. |
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