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1041  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 03:32:02 PM
You misunderstand my intent when I say "value". I don't mean monetary value.
No I didn't misunderstand your intent, I know you used the word 'value' to describe the learning experience, but you are still ignoring the content of my objections to you even doing this.

Unless you are going to declare that the only thing in your HYIP section is going to be this cautionary tale of exactly what happens when people send money to these things, you are implying that the rainbow-unicorn HYIP might still be found.

Are you going to be putting up more HYIPs?

If its a no then I'll concede and remove the rating. Otherwise if you are going to be listing more HYIPs in time then you're simply encouraging other people to risk participating in them, whether you say you profit or not. (Let's not forget what I said about where any 'profit' would be coming from, either. Any tacit support you show for HYIPs translates as it being ok with you to make money from theft)

1042  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
I get your hatred for HYIPs. I get why you think they are scams.
I don't *think* they are scams, they ARE scams. Every. Single. One.

I will not remove the HYIP section from my site as I think the reviews are valuable as they document an actual investor's (me) experience.
Damn, we're so close to resolving this amicably, too.

Mistake 1 - You refer to your HYIP section as having value, as though there *might* be one which you, and also your reader, *might* be able to profit from. So you post of one which dicks you around and pulls the usual, "send more money to us so you can withdraw yours" bullshit move. Which means your HYIP section will need another scam to review as being *possibly* an operation you could 'profit' with, yes?

Mistake 2 - In continuing to add to your HYIP section you imply that there may be a rainbow-unicorn HYIP out there which you might be able to withdraw more than you put in, yes?

Mistake 3 - Whether you do find this rainbow-unicorn HYIP or not, the damage is already done, namely, your readership is given the impression that HYIPs could be worth considering as a 'high risk' gamble, yes?

All of this done without ever mentioning the fact that if you were to walk away from a HYIP with more money than you put in, the profit you made didn't come from legitimate business operation/trading, it was just taken from some other poor sod's deposit. Perhaps the deposit made by someone who chose to participate in it after reading about HYIPs from your website, even.

Go on, do the right thing and either pull your HYIP section entirely or simply mark it as being the participation in an ongoing theft and, therefore, supporting such is wrong and only helps the operators of the scam survive longer before its inevitable collapse.




1043  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 02:45:44 PM
Also, while we're on the subject of honesty. You might want to modify your negative review of me to actually be ACCURATE.

Contrary to your claims, I have not profited one whit from that referral link - not one single satoshi.

A screenshot of my egregious referral earnings:

http://imgur.com/N5krook

I won't ask you to remove the negative review because I know you won't. I do ask that you at least tell the truth.

Whether you are yet to profit is utterly irrelevant. Please read again the reasoning why your willing participation in these scams is particularly egregious and perhaps you might reconsider the knee-jerkery you are currently displaying and, upon doing so, admit that hosting articles on 'investing' in HYIPs is tantamount to supporting scams and encouraging people to participate in them.

Your last sentence, by the way, is evidence that you are not actually paying proper attention to my posts seeing as I have already explained what steps you could take which would result in the removal of that rating. I nearly always remove negative ratings from people who, upon reflection, understand the nature of their actions, how it affects other people, particularly newbies to this industry and who choose to erase the previously posted support for a ponzi scam.

I'm not a totally unreasonable asshole.


1044  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 02:37:35 PM
How is my review not unbiased?
Yeah, I'm gonna have to refer to that rhetorical question again.

Here's how it works, you claim to be unbiased, this means you have nothing to gain or lose from the article you are posting. This is untrue, you embed referral links in your article in order to profit from them. This invalidates your claim towards being unbiased.

Still with me?

So if I want to put a little bit of my own money on the line to provide an honest accounting of what happens, why is it any skin off your nose?

It isn't, you can lose all the money you wish to. I could not give two shits about your losses. I do, however, care that senior and influential members of this forum community appear to be suggesting there is potential money to be made from these schemes, even though any money which would be made is only ever that which is taken from other people.

Your influential status both implies there is nothing wrong with trying to make money from participating in organised fraudulent misrepresentation and theft, as well as suggesting that you are able to provide sufficient information for other people to better evaluate which of these criminal operations they might wish to participate in. All the while you deign to only label them as scams after they have exited stage left with everybody's money.

Anyone who participates in a ponzi is helping the scammers run the operation in return for a share of the funds which are stolen from other people when it inevitably collapses, which they ALL do because of math.

Does ANY of the above sound to you like the sort of behaviour somebody in your position should be espousing?

1045  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 02:17:00 PM
ORLY? You missed one in your hurry to try and prove me wrong after I raised the issue.


I missed nothing. There is no ref link in that artlcle anymore.

Are you dumb or just lying? Don't worry, it's a rhetorical question, I already know the answer.

Quote
Iíve been seeing ads for BTCTrust pop up
hxxps://www.btctrust.biz/?ref=bitcoinmafia

If you want that negative rating removed then don't post misleading threads here claiming to be offering 'unbiased' reviews and, secondly, don't have a 'HYIP review' section on your website unless it basically states that all HYIPs are obviously scams because otherwise they'd be selling stock on Wall St instead of advertising on sketchy cryptocurrency sites for 'investors'.
1046  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 02:03:45 PM
ORLY? You missed one in your hurry to try and prove me wrong after I raised the issue.
1047  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Unbiased Review of BTC Trust HYIP on: July 08, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
I recently decided to see for myself if BTC Trust was even remotely legit or not

Oh fuck off with that bullshit claim of 'if', you know damn well ANY operation supposedly offering the kind of returns they advertise is a scam.

So, considering your 'unbiased' review contains your referral link to this scam (which immediately implies bias) I'm going to assume that you fully intend to pique the interest of other people enough for them to also consider sending a 'small amount' in, you know, just to test it, right? After all, maybe they'll be able to withdraw some of that amazing 600% profit, right? Or maybe they, too, will think it worth conning other people to use their reflink as well?

Quote
Iíve been seeing ads for BTCTrust pop up
hxxps://www.btctrust.biz/?ref=bitcoinmafia
Quote
To Sign Up: Click here to create your account and get started.
hxxps://www.btctrust.biz/?ref=bitcoinmafia

Are you going to remove your reflinks from that article?

1048  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [New] BTCOxygen - BEST Bitcoin doubler [Paying] on: July 08, 2016, 01:46:55 PM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
1049  Other / Meta / Re: Message to DT members. Stop abusing your powers. (And regular members) on: July 08, 2016, 10:15:17 AM
i would have thought that most accounts purchased are for the buyer to try profit a little bitcoin from being part of a sig campaign

:facepalm:

Which part of pretending you are someone else in order to make other people believe that the service you are advertising in your signature is more legitimate than they otherwise would, makes you an honest and trustworthy person?

1050  Other / Meta / Re: Message to DT members. Stop abusing your powers. (And regular members) on: July 08, 2016, 10:05:20 AM
Probably most importantly, the negative trust being left by some users is diluting the effect of negative trust on actual scammers, which has resulted in multiple instances of scammers being able to scam

Oh QS, the already-proven scammer, constantly pulls this bullshit claim out of his ass.

Let's see which sounds more likely:

1) A forum member is considering the post content made by another member and notices they have red text under their user name. They click through to the trust and read why this member is not trusted. They decide for themselves how the rating may, or may not, be applicable to the evaluation they are making of that member's post.
OR
2) A forum member is considering the post content made by another member and notices they have red text under their user name. They decide to ignore it and just trust the content of the post and/or the legitimacy of the link in their signature because they have seen other members with red text under their user name so, you know, it doesn't mean anything, right?

[EDIT]
The existence of trust score is undermining the importance of actually reading those trust feedbacks.
Actually this is far more likely to be a genuine issue than QS's nonsense claim.

1051  Other / Meta / Re: Message to DT members. Stop abusing your powers. (And regular members) on: July 08, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Whatever helps you sleep at night, my friend. Where are you from?
Maybe you could teach me how to be a dicksucker and get on the DT list.

Awesome comeback there, kiddo, you sure showed me.

Thanks for drawing my attention to your account sale business, btw. Appreciated.

P.s.
Here is a negative left by cryptodevil to a legitimate member who has been dealing with accounts for a super long time and has never done anything wrong.
Yeah, making a thread to complain about a negative left for another member who buys and sells accounts pretty much points to you being a sock-puppet of that same member. Just a little pro-tip for you.


1052  Other / Meta / Re: Trust system is abused. on: July 08, 2016, 09:36:48 AM
If I was hoping to scam, I could . . .

Ah, yes, the ol' "Hey I'm innocent because if I was going to scam I'd [insert irrelevant straw-man here]" excuse.

It isn't complicated, people who buy and sell bitcointalk accounts provide the means for scammers to scam, much as in the way people who participate in ponzi/pyramid/hyips provide the means for the operators to steal money. There isn't an honest reason for people to need to buy an account. Signature campaigns pay more for senior-level accounts because their post content, and the signature they wear, are more likely to be seen as legitimate over that of newbie accounts. So buying one and misrepresenting yourself as being that user for the purpose of earning money from a signature campaign is fraudulent, ergo, dishonest.

It's almost as if you're claiming to be incapable of understanding such a basic premise.

1053  Other / Meta / Re: Message to DT members. Stop abusing your powers. (And regular members) on: July 08, 2016, 09:17:37 AM
Oh man I am on a ROLL ! Two bitch-fest threads in my honour in quick succession! #blessed

....Waaaa!Waaaa!WaaaAAAaaaAAAAaaAAAaaAAaaaaa!

....I'm a long-time-proven scammer....I have a major fucking hard-on for Dooglus and jump at the opportunity to crowbar in ANY complaint and allegation I can at ANY opportunity....

Here's the thing, this forum has rules, those rules are for everybody and are, on the whole, pretty relaxed. The community is trusted to not be completely selfish assholes hell-bent on grabbing bitcoins from wherever and whomever they can. Unfortunately many people suffer from inherent neurological dysfunction as a result of a combination of nature/nurture and have become human beings who mistakenly believe that their autonomy, and only their autonomy, is sacrosanct and must never be challenged or inhibited. This leads to them not only being dishonest and untrustworthy but actively believing that their dishonest and untrustworthy behaviour is also sacrosanct and must never be challenged or inhibited.

They also appear to mistake a community action which merely serves to inform the wider populace of their untrustworthy nature as one which unfairly prevents them from conducting themselves as they please. This is simply untrue, although, seeing as dishonesty is the basis for much of their personae it isn't surprising that they are frequently driven to create threads solely for the purpose of whining about being publicly held to account by the community for the fact they are shitty human beings and not to be trusted.

tl;dr: Negative ratings don't actually prevent you from doing anything. They aren't for you, they are for everybody else to be informed as to the type of person you have proven yourself to be on this forum. What other users choose to do with that information is their decision but if it serves to help reduce the likelihood of people in this community being fucked over then your complaints about it are irrelevant and simply more self-serving dishonesty.

1054  Other / Archival / Re: double bitcoin 70 hours on: July 08, 2016, 07:37:28 AM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
1055  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: BlockInvest - An Artificially Intelligent Trading System | HTTPS | [Now Syncing] on: July 07, 2016, 02:33:03 PM
Enough with the statements, it's risky - that's the final statement

Then you need to remove all those claims about it being risk-free from your website otherwise you're simply lying and guilty of criminally fraudulent misrepresentation. Although, seeing as you are running a ponzi script and pretending it is a super-duper-special Artificial-Intellence-controlled legitimate trading platform, you're already guilty of that I guess.

Still, now you've contradicted your own website you do need to change the 'no risk' wording otherwise you'll look a total cunt.

Can't have that, now, can we?

1056  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: I can make you a Millionaire in 30 Days on: July 07, 2016, 02:25:21 PM
 But then I would get negative trust from cryptodevil.   Tongue

Damn straight you would, you boob-licking freak!

1057  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: BlockInvest - An Artificially Intelligent Trading System | HTTPS | [Now Syncing] on: July 07, 2016, 02:21:37 PM
It is hard question due to severe flux (see - better use of flux) - you could say on good days - on a $100 investment,  I would make $23.7 or on crap days $-14.1

Well you claim a "risk-free profit of at least 12%", do you not? This means you could rapidly turn your $100 into millions within a short space of time, so why do you need other people's money?

"Powered by a tried and tested sustainable system, there is no risk"

Risk-free yet you also claim
Quote
it's risky
which is why you need other people's money.

So which is it?





Sports betting sites say that anyone can win when statistically almost 90% cannot win.
People say that colonoscopy is risk free when you can still die from that.


So you again avoid responding to the actual question. Quite the dishonest little fucker, aren't you?

Your site makes explicit assertions stating "THERE IS NO RISK"

You state in this thread you need other people's money because, and I'm going to use your own words here, "it's risky".

Which of those two statements is correct? Because they can't both be true.

1058  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: BlockInvest - An Artificially Intelligent Trading System | HTTPS | [Now Syncing] on: July 07, 2016, 01:02:17 PM
It is hard question due to severe flux (see - better use of flux) - you could say on good days - on a $100 investment,  I would make $23.7 or on crap days $-14.1

Well you claim a "risk-free profit of at least 12%", do you not? This means you could rapidly turn your $100 into millions within a short space of time, so why do you need other people's money?

"Powered by a tried and tested sustainable system, there is no risk"

Risk-free yet you also claim
Quote
it's risky
which is why you need other people's money.

So which is it?



1059  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: BlockInvest - An Artificially Intelligent Trading System | HTTPS | [Now Syncing] on: July 07, 2016, 12:41:09 PM
You haven't tried it..... but still - you've done this in general and you're almost anyways right so I can see this as your reflex.
That's not an answer to the fact you're running a ponzi scam as though it were a legitimate investment platform. No, that's simply an attempted deflection from the fact you're running a ponzi scam as though it were a legitimate investment platform.

CryptoDevil, Kindly note where does flux capacitors come into place
It comes into place as being just more high-tech-sounding nonsense, you know, to match the crap you're already claiming about your super-duper neural network machine-learning pattern analysis: http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Flux_capacitor
1060  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Script HYIP Double 100Hours on: July 07, 2016, 12:35:12 PM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another scumbag promoting
a tool to help people steal money.

Those who choose to post of their interest,
support or encouragement for this script will
be tagged with negative trust.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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