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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: JBOX⚡ Token Sale NOV 8th ⚡ Video Streaming ⚡ Mining Crypto-Coin⚡ [ANN][ICO] ⚡ on: November 02, 2017, 09:54:07 AM
!!! WARNING !!!

This is a scam ICO

!!! WARNING !!!


See this thread for details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2347855

142  Economy / Scam Accusations / [ICO SCAM] JBox coin - already ran a failed ICO as an articles platform on: November 02, 2017, 09:51:52 AM

Scam ICO thread for JBOX Token sale

Currently attempting to pretend to be a video streaming project, but previously tried to run an ICO promoting 'JBOX' as a written-articles platform:

http://www.waitingmoney.com/
https://archive.is/FImz8

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LOL at the failure to even bother replacing some of the 'Lorem Ipsum' placeholder text while fraudulently claiming the likes of 'Forbes' as partners!
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Lazy scammer is lazy.

143  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: October 30, 2017, 10:55:51 AM
why criptodevil you don't talk about lux coin?? it's the same scam than signatum

Time. That's why.

There's only so much I can commit to repeatedly warning people off these scams and I have no doubt this 'lux coin' is just another pump and dump, too.


Here's what you can do:
Find a scam, find evidence it is a scam, open a scam accusation thread with the details of the operation and links to the people involved.
DM me about it so I can issue the appropriate negative trust ratings.

144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage on: October 19, 2017, 04:20:24 PM
IF a patent is granted, would it cause SIA a problem insofar as having $expenses$ to go through a dispute process to show USPTO wrongly granted ?

Retroactive patent infringement? Only if the tech they're patenting is for time-travel. How would CME even go about that discussion with a judge in order to get an injunction? - "Your honour, this group of people have been flagrantly using our 2017-patented tech since 2015!!1!1!!"

Should it be preemptively pointed out to USPTO 'prior art' already does exists and patent should be turned down ?
No, it isn't that kind of process. USPTO should be able to easily establish if CME's tech is anything like SIA's (or anybody else's) and, as I said, would then reject the application. If it isn't anything like SIA's then they wouldn't have a claim to make against them in the first place.

Prior art includes the described hypothetical, too, so having a public discussion about the theoretical design and methodology of a technology still counts. The technology doesn't have to have been used or even built in order to claim prior art, you need only find evidence of it having been discussed in open forum (i.e. not under NDA).


145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage on: October 19, 2017, 02:34:00 PM
anyone able to tell me if there is a potential problem brewing here
This patent sounds (to me) very similar to what SIA does.

No problem. Read up on 'prior art'
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Prior art is any evidence that your invention is already known.

Prior art does not need to exist physically or be commercially available. It is enough that someone, somewhere, sometime previously has described or shown or made something that contains a use of technology that is very similar to your invention.

If anything, most of these commercial blockchain-based patent applications will likely be rejected due to the fact it is extremely difficult to describe a sufficiently unique technological innovation which hasn't already been discussed at some point in recent years, probably on this forum.

146  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: October 16, 2017, 08:33:27 AM
LOL! I just spotted this little gem in my 'untrusted' received feedback from Epicyclic. Not sure if he's the creator of this bit of fakery or he's copied it from someone else but that is some grade-A dumb-fuckery:
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The thing I don't get is that it purports to be a post from THIS VERY THREAD!?!

Even more lulz at the claim of 'Administrators' being interested in this shitcoin, as though there is some sort of cabal of bitcointalk Whale Admins who employ the likes of me to help 'FUD' so they can buy cheapcoinznomnomnom!!11!1!!

147  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [RED FLAGS] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 01:40:00 PM
how much effort do you think it would take to get into a partnership with a Bank to be able to release even a normal credit card?

They are not really 'in a partnership' with a bank, they are just-another-commercial-customer of the bank who is 'reselling' branded cards in their business name. You fill out the right forms and pretty much anyone can do the same thing.

That is why they are debit cards and not credit cards, because Centra Tech Inc. doesn't have the credentials to issue branded credit cards.

148  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [RED FLAGS] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 11:17:46 AM
They released several high end cards to users before the ICO finished and those people used the cards to make purchases verified in may ways in photo and by video.

It is their own 'company' branded card and would have been funded by them with fiat to make those purchases. There is no evidence the 'CCE' module they describe converted cryptocurrency into fiat to fund those transactions. Otherwise they would have been easily able to prove it by showing the transaction taking place on the blockchain in real time. All those videos showed was a regular purchase being made by a funded card.


I am assuming it will not affect Centra in any way and it is about 3rd party like wavecrest. Centra is not using a third party instead using a bank to issue the cards.
If Centra were to be affected it would have been when VISA was restricted. Anyway, please do wait for official statement from Centra on this.

From official chat :

Our card is a Co Branded Debit Card from our issuing Bank Partner. We are not directly contracted with Visa or Mastercard.


The app was released on IOS this morning and Android follows shortly after

Ooh, a mobile wallet? How innovative. I'll wait until there's proof that their famed real-time automagically-converting crypto-to-fiat 'CCE' module is actually a thing before considering a retraction.



149  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [RED FLAGS] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 10:17:05 AM
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Couple of questions:

1. Which jurisdiction is 'Centra Tech' incorporated in?

2. You've got 'Andrey Nechesov' listed as the 'Blockchain Director'
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But his online history shows him running the above "freelancer and customer" site, changing it to a 'bitcoin exchange' earlier this year

Hello, friends!

http://PRCR.org we launched a new Bitcoin Exchange.

1) Now you can buy Bitcoins and change in rubles, dollars, euro.
  http://prcr.org/money/exchange/?currency_from=15&currency_to=1

2) You can also create real Bitcoin addresses, add existing addresses.
 http://prcr.org/btc/addresses/

3) Most importantly, you can make both group and individual transactions.
 http://prcr.org/btc/send/

4) So nice - we have a very cool Bitcoin faucet. There is no hype. Get your Satoshi every minute.
 http://prcr.org/btc/faucet/

5) For earnings, we have a partner program. Get your revenue per guest referral! With each income PRCR.
 http://prcr.org/partners/

All questions and comments to ask in this topic or page http://prcr.org/nechesov

Create a Global Bitcoin Community!

Before attempting, and failing, to launch an ICO for something he simply labelled, "First ICO platform for business"
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Finally settling on mentioning how they helped with this ICO in some way
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It doesn't really give this project much credibility to be citing somebody as 'Blockchain Director' who appears to be nothing of the sort.

150  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [RED FLAGS] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 10:16:57 AM

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151  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [RED FLAGS] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 10:16:49 AM
From my understanding, CTR tokens do two things: (1) provide network rewards to holders and (2) power the product suite of Centra. In order to use Centra, it looks like CTR tokens are required.

But they are just ERC20 tokens, how are they supposed to 'power the product suite' of Centra?

This is what I'm trying to establish, where there might be a meaningful description of actual technological methodology for this platform's 'engine' this 'CCE module'.




They have filed patents for the CCE module. I am not sure if they will disclose much information about this, the white paper needs to be cleaned up still IMO, but then again we have stupid concepts raising 30M+ so lets see what happens. The ICO is closed and a success. Time will tell all, and they are all about progress. Their blockchain which comes out next year is scheduled to be unveiled on the Blockchain Expo in Santa Clara, maybe you should go there and ask?

If they filed patents, then it should be searchable on the USPTO website.

Not for a period of time, look how frequent they update that database. I could be wrong the OP should answer this.

The OP? You're the OP.

Posting from the wrong account?


OP of moderated thread 'Dashingriddler' which was previously owned by a Unocoin rep and which suddenly stopped posting about Unocoin and began posting in altcoin threads for signature bounties until eventually shilling for Centra Tech.
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152  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [RED FLAGS] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 10:16:41 AM
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Yes, they have a plan to launch their own blockchain centrachain by the next year 2018 where CTR tokens will serve as the fuel for it.

Ok, but how does their blockchain actually function in terms of the 'CCE' module's ability to sell multicurrency cryptocurrencies and transmit liquidity in fiat to credit the client's card account at Visa/Mastercard?


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Wow, that 'whitepaper' is truly shocking.

There is something quite noticeable about much of its phrasing though:
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All of the above attempts to sound very important and legal, but is excruciating to read and, considering it was used to launch a much-hyped ICO seeking many millions of dollars in funding, is incredibly disconcerting. Seriously, almost every sentence of the above extract is wrong. The sort of incorrect use of expressions that a native English-speaker wouldn't make.

Given my experience with these things I'd say, with some confidence, that while this 'whitepaper' should have been put together very carefully and with much consideration and review prior to public release, the person responsible for writing such a peculiarly phrased and garbled attempt at English was most likely...*cough*...rushin'. <=--- Nudge, nudge. Wink.


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It is basic legalese. Probably written by a lawyer.

No. It is not. In any way.

To save on time and effort, let me just break down that first paragraph for you:
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Centra Tech has her clients at heart
'Her' clients? That is not a term employed in the West to describe the clients of a business entity. English-speakers do not ascribe gender to an incorporated business entity.

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, therefore, all computerized money that Centra Tech holds online is completely guaranteed.
'all computerized money' would never be the legal term used to describe cryptocurrency tokens because, as we all know, there are still very few jurisdictions where the statute books would even recognise cryptocurrencies as 'money', let alone the undefined notion of 'computerized money'.

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This means that, were Centra Tech to endure a break of its online storage,
'Endure a break'? Again, incorrect phrasing for Western English, let alone legalese Western English.

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any client stores lost as a result would be paid out by the insurance.
'client stores'? That doesn't even describe anything.

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The insurance policy covers any misfortunes coming about because of a break of Centra’s physical security, digital security, or employee theft.
No lawyer would EVER agree to the inclusion of the assertion that an insurance policy would cover 'any misfortune', let alone qualify it regarding 'a break of Centra's physical security' which, again, doesn't use the correct English phrasing and is absolutely undefined and too broad an expression to be meaningful.


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Let me get this right,

1.Centra Tech Inc. (Incorporation Date 7/27/2017) has signed up for a regular Visa/Mastercard branded card to issue to their customers.
2. Their customers create an account with Centra Tech's platform and are given cryptocurrency deposit addresses to fund the card.
3. Their customers receive said card and, when using it to make purchases, there is an automated back-office system which provides fiat liquidity for the card through the immediate selling of these cryptocurrencies in exchange for the required fiat currency of the transaction.

That is pretty much the nuts and bolts of this platform as far as this 'Centra Card' and its ICO is concerned. In that it is a regular fiat card which is funded through the customer's own cryptocurrency deposits.

Here's where things lose me, because I've read this 'whitepaper', and I'm using that term very loosely indeed, and asides from the usual plethora of blockchain-fairydust/ICO hype, there appears only this single paragraph concerning the methodology of how this supposed system will function:

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The grammar strikes me as a little, erm, 'off' would be the polite word to describe it but, more than that, it doesn't actually describe anything. It is just vague hand-wavy nonsense, alluding to there being 'something exchange-ey' happening.

Is there any actual detail available anywhere describing this back-office 'CCE' module? How does the 'CTR' ICO token function within this platform?


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Oh look, how surprising, more fail from people who struggle with the English language.
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This project is rapidly accumulating a wealth of red flags.




153  Economy / Scam Accusations / [FRAUD] Centra Tech - The Floyd Mayweather promoted 'Crypto debit card' ICO on: October 11, 2017, 10:16:31 AM
Ok, which ICO thread does this concern?
This 'Centra Tech' moderated ANN thread

Nutshell the ICO for me
Collecting millions of dollars in investment to create a Visa/Mastercard debit card capable of making purchases in fiat which are funded through a raft of cryptocurrency balances held by the user.

So what's the problem with this ICO, are you calling it an outright scam?

It's complicated. One man's cynical-grab-for-cash suspicious vapourware scam is another man's totally-legitimate-it-just-made-myriad-honest-mistakes project. Which is why this thread is titled 'Red Flags' rather than 'Scam' - for now. There is an awful lot to be very concerned about when it comes to this ICO and the people connected to it.

Yes, it has now been proven to be an outright scam.

But the ICO is over, why create this thread now?
It only came to my attention recently. Even if the ICO is over and the funds have already been collected there is value in ensuring information is available to both ICO participants and those considering the token on the open markets in the future. Also, the main reason for creating this thread is that I recently made a number of posts in their moderated ANN thread to raise some of these issues and seek an answer from the people running this operation, which were ignored and deleted. Which leads me to placing that as the first item on the list of red flags.

What are the red flags concerning this project?
They are, in no particular order, the following:

1. Multiple posts deleted in their moderated thread which raised serious issues of concern regarding elements of this ICO and the project purported to be underlying it.
2. The OP of their moderated thread is a bought/hacked account - evidenced by the fact they forgot they were the OP and their post history shows the typical signs of one. Previously was owned by a representative of India's Unocoin website before suddenly shilling for altcoins and eventually Centra Tech.
3. The Centra.Tech website Terms of Service appear to be a slightly modified direct copy of those issued by Bitpay, namely, they concern Merchant services only and are not representative of the business model Centra Tech Inc. purports to be operating under when promoting their operation in ICO marketing material.
4. For a business based in the US, founded by American English speakers, their marketing and promotional material has numerous grammatical errors and phrases entirely inconsistent with Western business English, e.g. referring to their company as 'her'.
5. Their 'whitepaper' is nothing of the sort and consists almost entirely of ICO-based hype and largely irrelevant vagaries and advice on how to buy their ICO token 'CTR'. The core 'engine' of this platform is referred to as the Currency Conversion Exchange module (CCE), yet garners a single small paragraph of, again, garbled-English statements which fail to even describe what the 'CCE' is or how it functions within the technological platform proposed by the ICO.
6. Some of the team members are listed as being responsible for roles inconsistent with their online history, e.g. their 'Blockchain Director' being someone who set up a very poorly-constructed 'freelancer' website, which he then changed to a poorly-constructed 'Bitcoin Exchange', before attempting, and failing, to launch his own vaguely-worded ICO earlier in the year.
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154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Centra Tech ICO | Multi-Blockchain Worldwide Debit Card & Insured Wallet on: October 06, 2017, 09:41:33 AM
From my understanding, CTR tokens do two things: (1) provide network rewards to holders and (2) power the product suite of Centra. In order to use Centra, it looks like CTR tokens are required.

But they are just ERC20 tokens, how are they supposed to 'power the product suite' of Centra?

This is what I'm trying to establish, where there might be a meaningful description of actual technological methodology for this platform's 'engine' this 'CCE module'.




They have filed patents for the CCE module. I am not sure if they will disclose much information about this, the white paper needs to be cleaned up still IMO, but then again we have stupid concepts raising 30M+ so lets see what happens. The ICO is closed and a success. Time will tell all, and they are all about progress. Their blockchain which comes out next year is scheduled to be unveiled on the Blockchain Expo in Santa Clara, maybe you should go there and ask?

If they filed patents, then it should be searchable on the USPTO website.

Not for a period of time, look how frequent they update that database. I could be wrong the OP should answer this.

The OP? You're the OP.

Posting from the wrong account?

155  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: October 05, 2017, 01:33:18 PM
Crowetic and crptodevil are the same person
I have no idea who this 'Crowetic' is you speak of. I believe he was somebody who originally was involved with this project, yes? If that is the case then he is probably just as guilty as the rest of the 'developers' behind this pump and dump scam.

Of all the scams you have posted in this forum Cryptodevil only attacks signatum.

I call bullshit on that claim by virtue of my post history proving otherwise.

156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: October 05, 2017, 12:42:50 PM
BCT has its own thread for this here; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Now now, the actual scam accusation thread for the Signatum clonecoin pump and dump is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2198496.0

157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Centra Tech ICO | Multi-Blockchain Worldwide Debit Card & Insured Wallet on: October 05, 2017, 08:48:32 AM
From my understanding, CTR tokens do two things: (1) provide network rewards to holders and (2) power the product suite of Centra. In order to use Centra, it looks like CTR tokens are required.

But they are just ERC20 tokens, how are they supposed to 'power the product suite' of Centra?

This is what I'm trying to establish, where there might be a meaningful description of actual technological methodology for this platform's 'engine' this 'CCE module'.

158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: October 04, 2017, 02:17:31 PM
I have landed here after reading about Magnatum, after the comments which decor that particular thread, many have reason to believe that Magnatum is merely a copy and paste, of this particular coin Signatum.  I also here rumors of an unofficial fork named Signatum classic, however, I am unable to currently trace it.

Oh have you now? LOL. Your faux-intellectualism is painful to read, kiddo. You also can't spell like a grown-up.

I have yet more reading to undertake before concluding what is actually going on here, I have suspicions over the authenticity of cryptodevils claims, as I fail to see he/she's presence among other blatant 'rip-offs'.  After reading through some of the pages here, it is clear @mprep role as moderator should be questioned, maybe look to seek a self moderated thread at the very least.  I understand there is a lot to moderate and yet on the other hand, it should not be allowed to reach such a magnitude of exchange in slurs before it is addressed.

For now, I remain unbiased over all opinions.

That is so cute.

What was your point though?

159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]🚀 BIT-X - Decentralized trading platform Crypto-Currency🚀 on: October 04, 2017, 02:08:02 PM
We are creators from Japan, we plan to create a decentralized trading platform and own currency !! Ovat area work trading platform the whole world!
 Smiley🚀

If you're 'creators from Japan' why is your website just a Russian landing-page site?

What does, "BIT-x has its own platform based on the block-box with an unlimited number of coins. " actually mean and, finally, where is a link to this exchange seeing as the Bit-X.io domain is simply for shilling your ICO.



160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BOUNTY][ICO] Kitex Coin - A Decentralized eCommerce Platform on: October 04, 2017, 01:29:45 PM
Ok people, nothing to see here, move along, Kitex is just another ICO scam with fake team profiles.

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