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181  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: September 29, 2017, 09:19:31 AM
i predict the future...
now price is 830 after 3 days go to 970 1100 beacouse a good news of wallet or maket place..

Actually there is little reason to believe the scammers would now risk the bitcoin needed to artificially lift the market that high again. Their scheme has been exposed and apart from a few fanbois they might be able to con into believing it is still legit, they've run out of free space to operate unchallenged.

This means they would have to be willing to risk buying back in to the market with bitcoin that might just be dumped on in a panic sell by those still left holding worthless bags of coin.

I don't think there's much time left before they exit the scam with something like, "Due to all the FUD we've decided to quit this project because we can't be expected to work under these conditions...etc." before firing up one of the other coins they've been keeping on ice during this period and promoting it under new forum accounts as the next big 'innovative' load of bollocks.

182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 29, 2017, 09:07:54 AM
Announcement

Please can the community refrain from visiting this site  signatumprice.com

It has been highlighted as a scam, and has no affiliation/association with any of the official Signatum team.

I would also kindly ask that both @borderline and @cryptodevil remove/disable the links from their posts, as not to draw attention and allow newbies, or any other member of the community, to fall victim by allowing them to

to click on it as a link.

Thank-you.

'Borderline' did not post this link. 'Papi92' did and it was subsequently quoted by me and a couple of others.
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 29, 2017, 08:49:23 AM
I'll leave you with this:
Cryptodevil claimed SIGT is a clone-coin. When asked what coin it's a clone of he finally looks at the code and sees it's derived from Blakecoin. He had no idea before then. Being a "clone-coin" is a meaningless standard for claiming SIGT is a scam since EVERY coin is derived from BTC or a derivative of BTC. Every coin is a "clone-coin". Nobody is going to rewrite the blockchain code from scratch. That would be idiotic.

He claims the exchange is being manipulated by bots and that this is evidence that SIGT is a scam. Even if it was being manipulated that is not evidence the devs are manipulating it. It's not evidence of scam. Almost every coin's price gets manipulated by bots or whales at various times.

He claims that a new algorithm is not "innovative" because SIGT has a short PoW timeframe. A new algorithm IS innovative regardless of the length of time it's used. Regardless, lack of innovation would not be evidence of a scam.

He claims anyone that questions his "evidence" is somehow in on the scam he has no evidence of.

EDIT: And of course I just got negative trust ratings. LOL This forum is a joke when people like Cryptodevil get to run around unchecked. He should be banned.


Any particular reason you think that post is worthy of repeating?

You start out by claiming I had no idea which coin Signatum was cloned from, albeit I was not wrong that it was a clonecoin and my subsequent reading of both the address format leading 'B' suspicion of it being Blackcoin was, indeed, confirmed as correct when I looked at the source code.

I don't see what point you think you are making with that.

You then complain about me pointing out that selecting a new set of algorithms to use for the brief PoW period is not innovative and then assert that it is innovative without actually explaining what was so innovative about it.
"Do you want you wallet skinned in grey or blue?"
"Blue"
"Wow, how innovative!!!1!1!"

Then you weakly claim that lack of innovation wouldn't make this coin project a scam, something I have already clearly explained is false, given that this coin was entirely predicated on being revolutionary and innovative. It is neither.

The rest of your post is just whining about being tagged as the obvious shill account that your post history proves you to be.

Your parting words lack anything of substance.

184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 29, 2017, 07:47:23 AM
Hello guys!

This site mining with your computer's CPU: hxxp://signatumprice.com/

It has this script in source code: <script src="hxxps://coin-hive.com/lib/coinhive.min.js"></script>

picture:


Holy shit! I didn't realise things were getting quite so underhanded.

Good find and something we need to be on the lookout for.


That is nothing bad IF there is note about it somewhere on www.

My sites use coinhive miner too, but I warn about it in site footer.


No that is pretty fucking sketchy to try and excuse it by saying there's a note in your site's footer.

185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 29, 2017, 07:42:18 AM
As I pointed out in an older post a new brand of shirt or pants is not a "new product" by your definition. There are simply minor differences in styling, color and fabric. That doesn't make them scam pants or scam shirts.

Again with the false equivalence. Trousers and shirts have the trends of 'fashion' with which to be promoted. Nobody buys a cryptocurrency because of how it looks, they buy it because it supposedly has qualities which make it more useful or more commercially viable than existing cryptocurrencies in the market. Attributes Signatum is entirely lacking in.

Your reasoning justifying this coin's existence boils down to, "Buy this coin because the more people who do so will result in its market price increasing!!11!!1!"

186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 29, 2017, 07:27:18 AM

Not being successful is also not evidence of a scam.

Not being successful while representing the project truthfully is not evidence of scam. Not being successful while dishonestly promoting the project as something it absolutely is not, is.

EVERY new product claims it's somehow different from others of its kind.

False equivalence. This is not a new product. It is a lazy copy of other people's code with a few settings changed. Those changes do not equate to a 'new product' any more than Heinz baked beans being sold in a store-brand tin equates to a 'revolutionary' new product.

You want to believe that all this coin needs is marketing in order to be successful? That is, at best, magical thinking and, in actuality, more a plea for the 'devs' to try and find a bunch of greater fools to pay more for your coins than you did, than a viable model with which to assert value. There is no reason for anybody to want to buy SIGT but plenty of reasons for them to steer well clear of it.



187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 29, 2017, 06:35:01 AM
lack of innovation would not be evidence of a scam.

Which part of claiming re-skinned white-label 'Marketplace' and 'Web-Wallet' browser code as being 'Our Technology' suggests innovation?
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Let alone 'Revolutionary' innovation:
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If the sole claim of innovation is that the 'dev' selected a different bunch of algorithms for the brief PoW period, which you believe equates to a viable economic platform of value for this coin to build on, I suggest you reconsider putting quite so much stock in your deeply-held beliefs, as they are clearly akin to becoming religious in nature at this point.

So, in that this entire project has been touted as being revolutionary and innovative, in order to pump the market-price while the 'dev team' profited from selling their mined bags to naive newbies, the absence of anything revolutionary or innovative is, indeed, evidence of scam.

188  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: September 29, 2017, 06:21:33 AM

Avoid at all costs and, more importantly, learn to spot the signs of these scams, they aren't exactly subtle but newbie FOMO and inexperience means that these scumbags are often able to fool many into parting with their bitcoin to buy or mine-and-hold these useless coins.


I invested so much into SIGT, Look how low it is still, 900 Satoshi? Why didn't you tell me it was a SCAM sooner cryptodevil? The only ones that got richer is the DEV's.

I responded to a DM somebody sent me alerting to the fact that this clonecoin had been fleecing ill-informed newbies, by investigating and posting my findings immediately in order to warn them. There are so many scam operations running in this industry that it is nigh-on impossible to know of them all and, as you can see in the Signatum thread, and most other scams I have posted warnings in, the response from the fanboi and scammer shill accounts is usually an aggressive attempt to keep burying these warnings as quickly as possible, requiring even more of my time and attention maintaining a persistent presence for these advisory posts in order to ensure the majority of victims are alerted to the facts.

Scammers are highly motivated to discredit and demean any threat to their ability to continue defrauding their victims. Add to that the mix of newbie fanbois who convince themselves it cannot be a scam because they've invested so much money into it already, and the chorus of 'shoot the messenger' is supported even further, adding to the difficulty in promoting the truth within such threads.

This is why there is little point in trying to tag all scams, because there would only be time to post the occasional warning in each, which would be swiftly buried.

Everybody wants to believe they can get in on the ground floor of a coin which will 'moon' to stratospheric values so they can get rich without having to do anything more than click on a few exchange trades. If the coin has no unique and innovative tech which serves to provide a new way to solve an existing problem, or doesn't have a viable commercial platform and economic model, it has no value whatsoever and is being traded solely on speculative hype and lies, constantly looking for 'greater fools' to sell on to.

As i said, learn to spot the signs, they aren't difficult to see. You just have to take off your FOMO-tinted spectacles.
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 28, 2017, 03:37:58 PM
..ad hominem..
A: He may of been agreeing with sarcasm

FFS, it is not "may of" it is "may have".

Ignoramus.
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 28, 2017, 03:17:37 PM
i mean one signatum dev use a cartoon image
one other use a image of a unknow persone ...
for me ad i belived of signatum if you make a coin of 1 milion dollar valure you need to put your face in...
so good luck guys... it's impossible to me to say but criptodevil was right...
So what, he scammed, how does that makes a shitcoin that we all made money from worse? Not sure why is that people expect anything else, there is no purpose of the coin other than selling it for profit on the exchange, PoS doesn'tguarantee it will be more expensive...

If you haven't sold yours, why blame the dev? No matter how he sneaked (if!) some coins to the exchange, your coins were worth the same as his. And your mining was more profitable than mining almost anything else.

Care to prove your premise it's a scam? I haven't seen any convincing evidence yet.

Well, for starters, skankhunt42 appears to actually be attempting to claim he is James Hinton, the guy in his avatar, by answering to borderline's question in the affirmative. Sure, he'll now claim that he just meant he just happens to sing and play guitar and piano and that, of course, he didn't really mean to imply that he is the guy in his avatar etc. etc. but it is just more lies on top of lies about this 'innovative' coin project.

i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?



yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...



now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people Huh?

sorry for my english

LOL, it looks like he is actually pretending to be James Hinton by answering you that he also plays piano and guitar.

The actual musician @therangejames is not 'skankhunt42'.



 Grin Grin Grin and yes i suppose Doc is Locke the superman because of his picture, your arguments and logic are pathetic.

You need to either grow up, or get laid, either way find something better to do with your spare time than look for invisible monsters.

it is grossly sad.

Your dishonesty is blatant when it comes to these things, with your first port of call the reductio ad absurdum in order to desperately distract from the proven fact.

'skankhunt42' clearly attempted to imply he was the singer that 'borderline' was asking about, and he chose to qualify that with a reference to playing both the guitar and piano. He knew damn well that he was being asked if he is James Hinton.

The fact is you're either incredibly dumb, or you are one of the scammers if you keep insisting on answering to these issues with dishonest argument and logical fallacies.

191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 28, 2017, 02:49:34 PM
i mean one signatum dev use a cartoon image
one other use a image of a unknow persone ...
for me ad i belived of signatum if you make a coin of 1 milion dollar valure you need to put your face in...
so good luck guys... it's impossible to me to say but criptodevil was right...
So what, he scammed, how does that makes a shitcoin that we all made money from worse? Not sure why is that people expect anything else, there is no purpose of the coin other than selling it for profit on the exchange, PoS doesn'tguarantee it will be more expensive...

If you haven't sold yours, why blame the dev? No matter how he sneaked (if!) some coins to the exchange, your coins were worth the same as his. And your mining was more profitable than mining almost anything else.

Care to prove your premise it's a scam? I haven't seen any convincing evidence yet.

Well, for starters, skankhunt42 appears to actually be attempting to claim he is James Hinton, the guy in his avatar, by answering to borderline's question in the affirmative. Sure, he'll now claim that he just meant he just happens to sing and play guitar and piano and that, of course, he didn't really mean to imply that he is the guy in his avatar etc. etc. but it is just more lies on top of lies about this 'innovative' coin project.

i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?



yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...



now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people Huh?

sorry for my english

LOL, it looks like he is actually pretending to be James Hinton by answering you that he also plays piano and guitar.

The actual musician @therangejames is not 'skankhunt42'.


192  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: September 28, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?



yes this imgae is used by dev on discord and telegram...



now i'm banned just for ask.. and that guy is  a dev and my question is: why use a image of unknow people Huh?

sorry for my english

LOL, it looks like he is actually pretending to be James Hinton by answering you that he also plays piano and guitar.

The actual musician @therangejames is not 'skankhunt42'.

193  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [PUMP AND DUMP] Signatum is just another clonecoin scam targeting naive noobs on: September 28, 2017, 12:21:13 PM
i defend signatum but now im out.. look this
this is the signatum dev
http://www.npr.org/2016/01/26/464305069/songs-we-love-the-range-florida

Are you saying this picture is used by the Signatum dev on a fake profile?

Do you have a link for it?

194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 27, 2017, 03:11:47 PM
Got in a bit late on this one but holding as much as I can.

I'd like to ask why? What makes you think this coin is worth holding on to, given that it is just another clonecoin with no innovation, just plenty of hype and market-manipulation.

Sock-puppet or naive newbie?

Seriously, what possible reasoning are you using to justify buying and holding this coin? I'm genuinely astonished that people are still falling for these scams.

Because you should know that there is a good reason why you get quick answers in this thread, and that is due to it being actively shilled by fanbois and scammer accounts routinely making utterly false claims towards 'inside info' about how the industry 'whales' are secretly wanting to buy in to this coin.
yup, that's why there's a lot going on with sigt. Right now, whales are trying to pull down the price of the coin.
Except that claim is a complete lie because, as I said, Signatum is nothing more than a copy-paste clone of another coin with a few of the usual settings changed to make it sound like it is 'different'. It is not, it is simply a Blackcoin clone and they couldn't be bothered to change the leading address character from 'B' to 'S' to even try and make it look like they were a competent crew.

Sloppy pump-and-dump is sloppy.

If you are a genuine noob and not a sock-puppet, give yourself a minute to think about the reality of the situation and ignore that FOMO causing you to buy in to these scams because you will lose your bitcoin in the end. That's why these scammers set these things up, to con you into buying their bags of useless 'Signatum' in exchange for your BTC. For a few months of social-engineering and promoting copied code as their innovative 'tech' they can steal ever more from you and those like you, who believe this to be a legit project, until there's no more marks to trick and then they shut it down and move on to their next 'innovative' hyped clonecoin. Rinse-and-repeat.

That is all this is.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 26, 2017, 03:31:26 PM
proven scam threads like bitzure or vegacoin...

As I said before, pointing out other suspect coins is not a rebuttal. I've only so much time available to investigate these things, albeit I have no reason to believe that the vast majority of altcoins and ICOs are anything more than cynical cash-grabs promoted as legit projects to people who have little understanding of either the tech or the industry.

This project, however, appears to be a revival of the typical pump-and-dump clonecoin scam perpetrated long before ICOs were in fashion and there is every reason to believe it is not the only clonecoin project under the control of the scammer 'dev team', as a number of fanbois and sock-puppet accounts appear to share very similar interests.

BTW, that wallet address I previously mentioned at the top of the rich list appears to be routinely divesting itself of large portions of coins these past days. It has gone from 13.5 million a day or so ago to 11 million. Just something to take into account when considering how much attention you should be paying to market activity.

196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 26, 2017, 02:59:38 PM
Yobit seems working for me just ok, but still signatum on more exchanges would be great. Those scam accusation are somewhat worrying me.

If you have a look through the post history of those making the accusations, you will not be worried.

They are perpetual FUDers, with little, to zero credibility on Bitcoin Talk.  Wink

Pro-tip, when invited to look through the post history or to google a forum user, please do so as it is frequently found that the lying scammer sock-puppet accounts who try to so blithely dismiss those who expose their fraud, rely on people simply accepting their word and not actually checking for themselves.

When they do check, however, they can quickly see that the person making the claim is clearly lying. They then need to ask themselves why that person was so compelled to lie.


197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 26, 2017, 08:58:31 AM
we all know switching to pos don't influence the prize becaouse the price it's determinate by market rules.

There is no market value, that is the problem. You have a 'dev team' who are miners and have managed to hype the supposed 'innovative' nature of this coin in order to sell it to a bunch of newbies who think it is a legitimate claim and that the coin has valuable technology which the cryptocurrency industry will want to buy in to and it absolutely does not.

You are being fooled into buying in to a coin where the devs have lied to you about it being innovative and the lie they used wasn't even that credible in the first place because, as I have already pointed out, setting the choice of algo to use in a clonecoin is just another minor option change.

Going back to what I said about it likely being a clone of Blackcoin, due to the dev team's failure to even bother with changing the leading 'B' on the address, I thought I'd actually take a look and it turns out I am right:

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As i said before, if you want people to listen to you, it must be done in a calm and dignified manner, with real evidence, not doctored or massaged truths to suit you agenda.


Which part of the previous posts whereby I have presented objective reasoning and evidence in a calm and dignified manner offends you?

Which part of the real evidence I have presented do you claim to be 'doctored'? Please present evidence of this or withdraw the accusation. You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue.

198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 26, 2017, 08:32:19 AM
So where are the Devs lying ? can you provide quotes / source.

Pretty much every time they say this:
What we can do however is to make sure the roadmap is achieved and Signatum gets real life usage. We will continue and try to innovate and update.

There is no innovation in this coin whatsoever. It is a clonecoin, pure and simple.

That is, and has been, the lie from the very beginning. Fuelled by a plethora of sock-puppet forum accounts frequently posting fanbois cheerleading or false news of 'inside info' that big players in the cryptocurrency industry are interested in this coin, when there is absolutely nothing for them to be interested in at all.

They haven't taken the Blackcoin code and improved on it, they've taken the Blackcoin code and simply chosen a few different attributes regarding which PoW algo to use and things like the coin supply, blocktime, reward etc and then renamed it 'Signatum'. The exact same routine all the clonecoins are created by.

Forgetting to change the leading 'B' in the address format, though, that was truly sloppy.

199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 26, 2017, 07:27:36 AM
we all know switching to pos don't influence the prize becaouse the price it's determinate by market rules.

There is no market value, that is the problem. You have a 'dev team' who are miners and have managed to hype the supposed 'innovative' nature of this coin in order to sell it to a bunch of newbies who think it is a legitimate claim and that the coin has valuable technology which the cryptocurrency industry will want to buy in to and it absolutely does not.

You are being fooled into buying in to a coin where the devs have lied to you about it being innovative and the lie they used wasn't even that credible in the first place because, as I have already pointed out, setting the choice of algo to use in a clonecoin is just another minor option change.

Going back to what I said about it likely being a clone of Blackcoin, due to the dev team's failure to even bother with changing the leading 'B' on the address, I thought I'd actually take a look and it turns out I am right:

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200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine on: September 26, 2017, 07:09:35 AM
so all video games are scam becouse use a directx proprety of microsoft?
all program they use vbcredist are scam?
 i don't understund the point.


The point is that the community is not being given anything innovative at all and that is the ENTIRE basis for the fake hype used to promote this coin.

Switching to PoS isn't going to magically make the price increase, btw, but it is a way for the scammers to try and convince people to buy and hold these useless coins in the meantime, while they sell off their bags.

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