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701  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Zarfund Official Discount offer on: September 12, 2016, 07:27:23 AM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
702  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 10, 2016, 12:42:41 PM
Didn't he think homero could buy a bank or something back in the xpy days for investment..

Oh yeah, a small outfit called Western Union.

He told Homero he should buy it.

Funny thing is, as many have already said long long ago, with a direct link to the very people who could make things like that actually happen for real, he still chose to screw everybody over with a crappy hyper-staking shitcoin and promises of major commercial interest that were just flat-out lies.

703  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: September 10, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
Changing the terms of the crowdsale while it is running is tantamount to fraud itself. They initially created such a steep and rapid decline in exchange rate being offered that it only made sense to invest in that first week before it started dropping like a stone by half each week.

They had a rush of interest in that first week from people wanting to catch the 1000 per bitcoin deal and then were clearly afraid that the drop off would cause people to think they'd missed the boat, so instead changed the terms of the sale and extended the one week limit to two.

That's unfair to those who bought in that first week thinking they'd get a good deal when suddenly there was a load of PR touting about the success of that first stage and, lo and behold, we now find there's another week at the same rate!

Absolutely criminal. No, seriously, it is actually criminal.

My theory is that they're going to throw some money at Dengo Systems to get them to stitch together some open source projects and rebrand them so they can claim delivery and leave the rest of the work to the fucking 'DeOS Foundation'. They already said weeks back that the not-an-ICO-but-a-crowdsale was going to be used to pay developers to 'improve' this DeOS before releasing it. Funny how he had already claimed in January of last year that they had 27,000 users actively using it though. You'd think it was, you know, in a usable condition then, what with him crowing about a not-insignificant number of members of the public USING it 20 months ago, so why isn't accessible to the public now?

Still, they've broken that many UK financial laws in their quest to collect investment funds (Jawad, your token fails the Howey Test big time, so it is a security no matter how much you wanted to insist you were just selling software) I can't see them getting a completely free ride out of this fraud. Give it time.

Jawad was asked in one of the interviews where the money for this 'Five Million-Euro Blockchain Bank' was coming from and was directly asked if it was being funded by the money from this ICO and he squirmed and fluffed his words as he pretended like the money was going to come from their own resources.

http://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/16/09/p8434566/razormind-to-open-blockchain-headquarters-in-belfast-12-bitcoin-jobs
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Global computing firm Razormind has chosen to locate their European Headquarters in Belfast creating 12 jobs, 20 paid internships, a new blockchain lab, and installing 10 BitCoin ATMs over the next 12 months. The offices will be located in The Scottish Provident Building, next to City Hall. Razormind currently has European sites in London, Paris, and Munich for which the Belfast HQ will take a leading role.

Razormind doesn't have the money for this, their DeOS ICO, however, has several thousand bitcoin.

I wonder if the people who fell for this con would be happy to learn that the several thousand Bitcoin they invested aren't actually committed to the development of this DeOS software.

BTW a leading 3 in the wallet address denotes multisig, so it is possible somebody with an ounce of understanding of the seriousness of this fraud will stop the whole process until the actual facts, rather than Jawad and Phil's fevered imagination, can be established. There is still time to let the investors learn of the true state of Razormind, DeOS and how this ICO was fraudulently staged, so they can choose whether they wish to have a refund.

704  Economy / Services / Re: [Open] BIT.AC :: Signature and Avatar Campaign on: September 09, 2016, 02:23:08 PM
DT member cyptodevil withdrawn his warning ?

Does it mean we are allowed to wear this signatures again?

Yeah, somebody alerted me to this but had got their facts wrong on that 50% referral. As it is coming from the transaction fee it is not an unrealistic amount.

Although the caveat about using wallets made by third-parties still stands. Unless they are open-source and vetted as being legit you should always assume the default position that it is unsafe to use.

705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 💰 (LIR) 💰 LetItRide Gambling Suite 💰 Gamble with LIR Soon! on: September 08, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
He's been running a bot deleting posts, that's all that activity timestamp was showing.

706  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 07, 2016, 04:11:07 PM
"...I'll take 'what is under the apron' for 5 million Alex..." - Homero "Elon" Garza, Oct. 2016

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

:golf clap:

You just won the internet for the day.

707  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: coince.com scam or true on: September 07, 2016, 09:54:14 AM
Coince is a scam.. This guy helped me recover my funds.. hastingstag@gmail.com..

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Scam

The same fraudulent "We can recover your money"
scams were seen following the HashOcean
collapse.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
708  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ★★★ Instant Bitcoin Doubler ★★★ on: September 07, 2016, 08:02:07 AM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just a double-spend scam
involving fake transactions which
will never confirm.
Do Not Invest!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
709  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: No need of any task and dost worry about ur downline---we will take care of that on: September 07, 2016, 08:00:14 AM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
710  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: what if the R:R ratio is excellent in a program where i have joined on: September 07, 2016, 07:59:34 AM
Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
711  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: September 06, 2016, 12:34:33 PM
Anyone aware of the DAO token page? Hehe  Cool Cool Cool


http://www.razormind.co.uk/dao/

Doesn't surprise me at all. Jawad has been desperately trying to sell this DeOS as an Ethereum competitor, so the idea of them claiming to be setting up their own DAOs on it is just more of the same.

BTW, if anyone reading this thread has actually purchased tokens in this ICO, can you vouch for having seen whether DeOS even exists as an actual platform? Outside of Jawad and Phil's imagination that is.



712  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: September 06, 2016, 11:29:33 AM
What I'd like to know is when the OMNI Foundation, who are supposed to be supervising this, approved of this change in the exchange-rate schedule for the ICO
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CoinTelegraph: So when does the crowdsale go live Mr Yaqub?

Jawad Yaqub: The crowdsale starts on July 15th, 12:00 PM GMT. The DeOS crowdsale is supervised by the Omni Foundation. They have access to all transactional information, with their executives serving in the role of trustees for the DeOS tokens. Razormind has no access to these funds without their approval.  We are taking great care to secure and safeguard all funds for this crowdsale.

Because people would have been influenced as to the decision to invest quickly before that first week rate expired, only to subsequently discover that the rapid reduction in the rate each week wasn't going to happen.

That is uber-shady behaviour and the execs at Omni sure as shit shouldn't have approved it.

That is if this sale is even being supervised by the Omni Foundation. We are, after all, talking about a claim made by Jawad Yaqub, who has an internet history of half-truths, lies and complete fabrication.

713  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: September 06, 2016, 10:30:55 AM
Looks like their "crowdsale" will end in 3 days. The price is 250 DeOS / 1 BTC (i.e. 0.004 BTC/token or ~$2.42/token) and they claim that so far they raised 29,600 BTC ($17,956,840). WOW! Cheesy

Your calculation didn't take into account the staged nature of the ICO.

But, here's funny for you, when I went just now to double-check the details for the ICO I found that they originally were quoting a completely different stepped-structure ICO.

Here's what they have been saying for the past several weeks:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-shower-for-razormind-3000-btc-after-one-week-of-crowdsale
28th July 2016
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The price of DEOS will be 1,000 per one Bitcoin (BTC) until Friday July 29, after which it will be 500 DEOS per BTC until the final valuation change of 250 DEOS per BTC on Aug. 12.

Which means you can't properly calculate how many btc they are claiming to have raised even though they state that as of last Friday they had sold 7.4 million of them, because you don't know how many were sold at what rate.

What is amusing and ever-so representative of this entire process of lies, fabrication and simply fucking winging it is this, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, set of numbers they were originally stating at the start of the ICO:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/razormind-targets-ethereum-by-crowdfunding-deos-blockchain-on-july-15
12th July 2016 <=-- 3 days before the ICO begins
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16th July Week 1: 1000 EOS () per Bitcoin, 22nd July Week 2: 500 per Bitcoin, 29th July Week 3: 250 per Bitcoin, 5th August Week 4: 125 per Bitcoin, 12th August Week 5: 50 per Bitcoin and 19th August Week 6: 25 per Bitcoin.

714  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: September 06, 2016, 08:58:42 AM
You dont have any clues these "numbers" are real or not real, and plastic recycle are real or not real,

I don't need to think if the numbers on the screen are real or not real when the claimed business underlying them cannot possibly be making the amount of profit needed to offer their 'investors' the high returns they do.

Plastics recycling across the world is struggling to survive due to the slump in oil prices. None of them are making anything like the sort of income from it that Recyclix would have to be making.

Therefore the *only* way for them to be structured and offer the claimed returns that they do, is as a ponzi scheme.


715  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: September 06, 2016, 07:11:25 AM
It's all smoke and mirrors. You only 'profit' if you keep doing more 'cycles', i.e. by keeping your money in the system. It is a way to seem like you are earning higher rates of profit, as the numbers on your screen increase, but it is just so the ponzi scam only has to pay out a tiny fraction of the money they receive from new 'investors'.
So, what forbids me money to store in this system, not in the bank?

That is not the point I was raising at all.

The point is to do with the 'system' of investment being acutely setup to ensure the minimal number of withdrawals and the maximum amount of fund retention, otherwise the ponzi *will* collapse.

Remember, they are not actually making any money, they are a ponzi scam. For all that 'profit' on the screen their users see after having deposited their own payment to Recyclix as the initial 'investment' and run through multiple 'cycles', it is crucial that only a tiny fraction of it is ever taken out of the system. Certainly it needs to be less going out than new deposits coming in, hence the push into new countries to con the poor and credulous out of their hard-earned money on the promise of insane returns.

They also count on newbies misunderstanding the process by way of their convoluted scheme involving the supposed handling of this waste and conversion into plastic granules, with many believing they will make a profit after the first five-week cycle, to find that the 'profit' only actually occurs by 'compounding', through restarting the cycle many times.

As people see the numbers on the screen reach larger and larger amounts they become more motivated to 'compound' that supposed profit, over and over again, thereby ensuring that their initial investment remains in the system.

For every user who does cash out more than they invested the 'profit' is simply money which other people deposited, who are going through their own repeat cycles and who haven't cashed out more than their initial investment and are equally hypnotized by the numbers on the screen.

But the whole system comes crashing down rapidly if they do not get more new deposits and, even then, as the number of 'investors' increases there is the fact that a larger amount of withdrawal requests will be being made, requiring EVEN MORE new investors be found to make deposits.

Then math comes along and blows the whole house of cards down.

When it goes it goes down real fast and the moment you start to hear of withdrawal requests not being processed is the moment it is too late because your subsequent withdrawal request isn't going to be processed, either.

716  Economy / Securities / Re: 1% Weekly payout - Long Term Investment - Legends of Tomorrow - up to 12%/month on: September 05, 2016, 03:53:02 PM
we have proved over 50btc each in several wallets.

What's the point of all those proofs of hundreds of bitcoin at your disposal if you aren't actually going to use them for the very thing you claimed you would?

Quote from: LegendsofTomorrow
like all of our services we provide, we will issue payouts, withdrawals and investments using our own funds.

So if you receive 50 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 50 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 50 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

Likewise, if you receive 1.8 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 1.8 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 1.8 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

The only roadblock I have hit is your dishonesty and weasel-words.

The negative rating will remain as you are patently untrustworthy and a proven liar.

Feel free to open up a butt-hurt thread to whine loudly about the perceived injustice of being held accountable for your actions.






717  Economy / Securities / Re: 1% Weekly payout - Long Term Investment - Legends of Tomorrow - up to 12%/month on: September 05, 2016, 02:34:18 PM
we consider it our investors best interest not trading.

It was your in your investors best interests to trade btc to USD and back again.

But you were supposed to do it with your 1.8 btc on their behalf, not their 1.8 btc which was supposedly never going to be touched for any of your services according to you.

So, with regards to your negative rating which is currently serving to alert people to your demonstrably untrustworthy actions, if you wish it removed you have to edit out all claims to how you will use your own funds for your services and leave theirs untouched. Because it isn't true.

Or you could open a complaint thread about your rating in a futile attempt to continue deflecting from your lies.

The choice is yours.

718  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: September 05, 2016, 08:32:27 AM
Oh, FWIW:

Quote

Razormind's LinkedIn page used to be the one for Phil Sturgeon's 'SFX Coin'

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Domain Name: SFXCOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1860958169_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.meshdigital.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domainbox.com
Updated Date: 2014-05-31T00:00:00Z
Creation Date: 2014-05-31T00:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-05-31T00:00:00Z
Registrar: WEBFUSION LIMITED
Registrar IANA ID: 1515
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: support@domainbox.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8779770099
Reseller: 123Reg/Webfusion
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Phil Sturgeon
Registrant Organization: (SFX)Coin
Registrant Street: Flat 23
Registrant City: Edgware
Registrant State/Province: Edgware
Registrant Postal Code: HA8 5FB
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.7717791000
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: philjsturgeon@gmail.com
719  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! on: September 05, 2016, 08:00:29 AM
Seems like Jawad and/or Phil are keeping up with this thread's routine exposure of their long history of lies and misrepresentation.

Razormind.co.uk/Team just went from this:

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Which, as I mentioned previously, shows people who actually work for Dengo Systems in the Ukraine.

To now being removed entirely:

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720  Economy / Securities / Re: 1% Weekly payout - Long Term Investment - Legends of Tomorrow - up to 12%/month on: September 04, 2016, 03:25:11 PM
Of course you prefer to leave it as it is, the whole point of your platform's supposedly 'unique' claim towards proving legitimacy was by way of stating you wouldn't use investor deposits for anything and that they would remain untouched for everyone to see at all times.

But that claim is not true.

So by electing to keep it you are lying to everybody who reads it, including potential new investors.

That is the act of seeking investment funds through false misrepresentation, otherwise known as the crime of fraud.

You need to remove all statements which assert you will not use investor funds, because it is not true.


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