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961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][GIO] GRAVIO - Ultimate over-UСS: AI, IoT & E-Commerce inside on: September 04, 2017, 08:50:47 AM
Hello dev! I am a little bit confused. Why would the investors participate in the ICO and buy GIO which is worth 1 BTC per 15,000 when there are already people here selling a million GIOs for a single BTC only. What is this?  Huh

Hi!
That user - olkah, has ~3m of GIO, total amount is around 290m and 90% of them is locked and controlled by our team. So, for now we do not change plans and rates still are the same.
For now difficulty is 7.9, total network hash rate is around 2 GH/s. Network is a live.
Any way - we moving forward and next stage is listing.
Thx.



He bought those GIO's from the ICO? Why would he sell those at a very low price? much lower on the ICO price.
I wonder what's he's thinking.
Also, you guys mentioned about getting listed on yobit. I hate to break it to you but that exchange is not really worth it.
It got a lot of complaints and scam accusations.
It's best not to deal with that exchange. You can try Nova Exchange o C-Cex tho.


Oh! I am also wondering why such an early investor would sell his tokens this early when the ICO is still going on and the price is also offered very cheap as compared to the cost of it when he bought them. Anyway, to each his own strategy and decision. About exchanges, I only hope that after ICO, dev will go for the top ones such poloniex or bittrex.  Wink

i tried to rent some scrypt on miningrigrental
rented 3.5 hours 470 Mh/s for BTC0.00137567 (around $6+)
already collected 22000+ GIO for past 50 minutes
why would you spend $4500 for 15000 GIO on ICO if you can spend $6 for renting rig and collecting 75000+ GIO?
 Grin

WoW great !!  if you really did this then Share some GIO at this address : 2MdndSc4U6hVbPER9rcnYVGrkuJtTauTKDF


If you really need a prove just go to mining pool and check pool statistics, you can see hashrate and coin per day estimation (i believe my rented rig still not over yet and you still can find my username there) And then check 470 MH/s scrypt rig rental price for 3 hours on miningrigrental.

but why not
Transaction ID: 3c3ee40c00b457573896e1ef70dd0e91c198362e08c47f3e9023bfde88534416
there! it worth $21 of ICO price  Wink
962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CYDER] Cyder Networking Lounge [FULL-POS][NOW REBRANDING] on: September 04, 2017, 07:18:01 AM
wow 45,732,456 (20+ btc) sell wall keep appear and disappearing again and again Cheesy
looks like someone doesnt want price go above 45 sats at a moment
963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][GIO] GRAVIO - Ultimate over-UСS: AI, IoT & E-Commerce inside on: September 04, 2017, 07:03:19 AM
Hello dev! I am a little bit confused. Why would the investors participate in the ICO and buy GIO which is worth 1 BTC per 15,000 when there are already people here selling a million GIOs for a single BTC only. What is this?  Huh

Hi!
That user - olkah, has ~3m of GIO, total amount is around 290m and 90% of them is locked and controlled by our team. So, for now we do not change plans and rates still are the same.
For now difficulty is 7.9, total network hash rate is around 2 GH/s. Network is a live.
Any way - we moving forward and next stage is listing.
Thx.



He bought those GIO's from the ICO? Why would he sell those at a very low price? much lower on the ICO price.
I wonder what's he's thinking.
Also, you guys mentioned about getting listed on yobit. I hate to break it to you but that exchange is not really worth it.
It got a lot of complaints and scam accusations.
It's best not to deal with that exchange. You can try Nova Exchange o C-Cex tho.


Oh! I am also wondering why such an early investor would sell his tokens this early when the ICO is still going on and the price is also offered very cheap as compared to the cost of it when he bought them. Anyway, to each his own strategy and decision. About exchanges, I only hope that after ICO, dev will go for the top ones such poloniex or bittrex.  Wink

i tried to rent some scrypt on miningrigrental
rented 3.5 hours 470 Mh/s for BTC0.00137567 (around $6+)
already collected 22000+ GIO for past 50 minutes
why would you spend $4500 for 15000 GIO on ICO if you can spend $6 for renting rig and collecting 75000+ GIO?
 Grin
964  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: BananaCoin BOUNTY CAMPAIGN [ Signature, Signup, Fb, Twitter, Youtube ] on: September 04, 2017, 04:07:51 AM
Sign-up
Username ( bitcointalk ) : adjiadjo
Banancoin username ( you will get your coins here ) : adjiadjo (ilmansyahap@gmail.com)

Twitter
Username ( bitcointalk ) : adjiadjo
Banancoin username ( you will get your coins here ) : adjiadjo (ilmansyahap@gmail.com)
Twitter Profile link : https://twitter.com/Ilmansyahadjie
Tweet link : https://twitter.com/Ilmansyahadjie/status/904555537848610820
Re-tweet link :  https://twitter.com/Bananacoinico/status/904095234421919746

Facebook
Username ( bitcointalk ) : adjiadjo
Banancoin username ( you will get your coins here ) : adjiadjo (ilmansyahap@gmail.com)
Facebook username ( make sure profile is public ) : https://www.facebook.com/ilmansyah.adji
965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CYDER] Cyder Networking Lounge [FULL-POS][NOW REBRANDING] on: September 03, 2017, 02:58:12 PM
Anybody know how many confirmation before chunk become mature to stake?
966  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ASK]WAKTU MINING on: September 02, 2017, 03:29:07 PM
kebetulan di kota ane cuacanya panas membara, jadi ane ada jadwal off 4 jam mulai dari jam 12 siang sampe jam 4 sore ( 4 jam sehari )
selain untuk hemat listrik juga menambah keawetan hardware

Ane di jakarta gan yg itungan nya daerah panas,
Salah satu rig ane berumur 5 bulan dipake hampir nonstop 24 jam tanpa AC cuma kipas angin biasa buat sirkulasi panas ruangan,
Ga ada masalah.

Ga ada hubungan nya sama hemat listrik kok ,
Pake 24jam pake 12jam sama 8jam cost dasar nya sama $0.1
Beda nya yg 24 jam akan lebih cepat ROI di banding 12 jam
Seandai nya 24 jam cuma butuh waktu 3 bulan buat ROI yg 12 jam butuh waktu 6 bulan.
Ketika yg 24 jam dibulan ke 4 udah bangun rig baru dan punya hashrate 2x lipat, yg 12 jam masih kejar target ROI.
Makin panjang ROI ditempuh makin tinggi difficulty nya.
967  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: MIning dengan GTX 1070 ?? on: September 02, 2017, 03:15:19 PM
kira2 ini pc bakalan dipake buat maen game lagi ga bro ? soalnya kalo udah dipake mining, bro gak bakalan bisa maen game lagi , karena load gpu udah disedot ama mining
jadi gak bisa barengan maen game ama miing

Pasti ga bisa, memory core nya di pake buat mining eth
Ga ada ruang buat game, klo ada budget ya beli 1 lg , jd yg 1 full mining yg satu stop klo pengen maen game.

Ane 5 gpu klo lg pengen main game cuma 4 yg mining, maen game beres baru 5 mining semua.
968  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ASK]WAKTU MINING on: September 02, 2017, 11:35:50 AM
permisi gan ane mau tanya nih, untuk efisiensi waktu mining dengan vga kira2 berapa jam ya? full 24 jam kah atau kurang dari 24 jam?? dan apa efeknya buat vga kalo kita mining sampai 24 jam berturut2??
Apapun kalau dipake berlebihan gak baik gan,
Jangan terlalu nafsu.
Kalau ane sih main 10:2 yaitu 10 Jam mining 2 Jam off dan minggu perawatan ( bersih2in debu dll )

ohh jadi cukup 10 jam saja gan?? kalo boleh tau mining pake berapa VGA gan? dan opit bersihnya berapa(sudah bayar listrik)?

Pendapat ngawur jangan diikutin. Semua admin server tahu, melakukan reset/restart sistem adalah pekerjaan yang paling dihindari. Harapannya sistem dapat berjalan terus-menerus. Karena itu perangkat Komputer dirancang untuk bisa bekerja nontstop. Yang harus dijaga adalah stabilitasnya, sperti tegangan listrik, temperatur dll.

Aktifitas mining hanya bisa mendapatkan hasil ketika alat mining bekerja. Kalau alat dimatikan tidak akan menghasilkan.

Jadi kenapa harus dimatikan??

+1 buat komen ini,

Saya sendiri dari sebulan alat hidup 29 hari 22 jam (hitungan 1 bulan 30 hari) , 2 jam buat bersih2 , itu pun kadang2 , karena mining rig itu terbuka alias tanpa casing jadi debu nya ga separah cpu dalam casing. Selama tegangan listrik bagus dan temp stabil arti nya ga ada yg harus di maintenance.
969  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: MIning dengan GTX 1070 ?? on: September 02, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
Setiap pembahasan mining ane selalu ingetin klo rate listik di indo itu 100% lebih murah di banding negara maju di barat , contoh di indo $0.1-0.11 di canada $0.2-0.26 , dan orang luar di rate segitu masih rajin bikin rig, knapa kita nggak?

Spec nya over spec buat mining, ram 8 giga sama procy nya mubazir, karena mungkin awal nya emang buat gaming ya ga masalah. Perbedaan nya cuma waktu tempuh ROI aja.

Kalkulasi mining ETH berdasarkan rate dan difficulty hari ini
1070 hashrate up to 30Mh/s , power consumption 120W , cost listrik $0.1
Revenue 1 hari : $2.03
Cost 1 hari : $0.29
Profit : $1.74

Kalkulasi profit coin lain nya buat spec yg sama bisa di cek disini :
https://whattomine.com/coins?utf8=✓&adapt_q_280x=0&adapt_q_380=0&adapt_q_fury=0&adapt_q_470=0&adapt_q_480=&adapt_q_570=0&adapt_q_750Ti=0&adapt_q_10606=0&adapt_q_1070=1&adapt_1070=true&adapt_q_1080=0&adapt_q_1080Ti=0&eth=true&factor%5Beth_hr%5D=30.0&factor%5Beth_p%5D=120.0&grof=true&factor%5Bgro_hr%5D=35.5&factor%5Bgro_p%5D=130.0&x11gf=true&factor%5Bx11g_hr%5D=11.5&factor%5Bx11g_p%5D=120.0&cn=true&factor%5Bcn_hr%5D=500.0&factor%5Bcn_p%5D=100.0&eq=true&factor%5Beq_hr%5D=430.0&factor%5Beq_p%5D=120.0&lre=true&factor%5Blrev2_hr%5D=35500.0&factor%5Blrev2_p%5D=130.0&ns=true&factor%5Bns_hr%5D=1050.0&factor%5Bns_p%5D=155.0&lbry=true&factor%5Blbry_hr%5D=270.0&factor%5Blbry_p%5D=120.0&bk2bf=true&factor%5Bbk2b_hr%5D=1600.0&factor%5Bbk2b_p%5D=120.0&bk14=true&factor%5Bbk14_hr%5D=2500.0&factor%5Bbk14_p%5D=125.0&pas=true&factor%5Bpas_hr%5D=940.0&factor%5Bpas_p%5D=120.0&skh=true&factor%5Bskh_hr%5D=26.5&factor%5Bskh_p%5D=120.0&factor%5Bl2z_hr%5D=420.0&factor%5Bl2z_p%5D=300.0&factor%5Bcost%5D=0.1&sort=Profitability24&volume=0&revenue=24h&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bittrex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bleutrade&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bter&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=c_cex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=cryptopia&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=poloniex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=yobit&dataset=Main&commit=Calculate


970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Power Ledger Token on: September 01, 2017, 08:23:58 AM
Does anyone know when they distribute the Bounty Coins if they will be providing us the Token address , symbol and decimal value?

Thanks

they'll announce crowdsale next week ,
crowdsale will run up to 4 weeks ,
preparation and distribution will take up to 4 weeks ,
so you'll see your token in 2 month , or may be less.
source : telegram group.
971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Prover - A long-term 19,200,000 tokens bounty campaign on: September 01, 2017, 07:57:18 AM
looking forward for this project!
joining your social media campaign  Wink
972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ❤❤❤[ANN] [ICO] JDS ICO is open (AIRDROP ❤10,000 WAVES❤) on: August 30, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
i've recieved the airdrop,
thanks team ,
success for the project.
973  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Menguntungkan mana mining dengan GPU atau Cloud Mining? on: August 30, 2017, 10:06:39 AM
Klo nama nya perbandingan harus setara gan,
Jangan kayak bandingin samsung lawan iphone tpi produk nya S8 lawan iphone 4  Grin

Klo dalam kasus ini berarti pertanyaan nya :
punya mining rig senilai 50 jt rupiah sama deposit ke cloud mining 50 jt rupiah, untungan mana?

1.gpu mining : barang nyata, hashrate nyata, profit nyata, ROI nyata
2. Cloud mining : barang dipertanyakan, hashrate dipertanyakan, profit dipernyatakan, ROI dipertanyakan

*diperntanyakan : nyata atau fiktif.
974  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: knapa sih situs minning ujung2 nya pasti scamm???.... on: August 29, 2017, 04:06:24 PM
Judul nya menyesat kan  Grin
Cloud mining harus nya ga di kategori in sebagai mining,
Orang ga ada kegiatan mining nya, cuma kontrak aja tanpa tau hardware nya nyata atau fiktif.
bagi sebagian banyak orang cloud mining termasuk dengan mining . istilahnya dia menyewa hardware yang ada di website penyedia layanan cloud mining . ya memang cloud mining adalah hal yang sia-sia , kita hanya dijanjikan sebuah hal yang tidak mungkin bisa terjadi . mereka akan membawa semua modal yang kita miliki dan walupun membayar pasti hasilnya sangatlah tidak layak .

"Sebagian banyak orang" itu indonesia aja kok
Pemahaman orang kita waktu 2014 malah lebih parah, faucet itu desebut "nambang" , bahkan masih ada aja sampe skrng pertanyaan2 bodoh di group2 "biasa nambang bitcoin di faucet apa?"

Dan cloud mining itu yg disewa bukan hardware nya tapi porsi dari hash nya dalam bentuk kontrak. Sekali lg hardware ga jelas nyata atau fiktif. Beda cerita sama miningrigrental (dan lain2) kita beneran sewa 1 alat nya penuh

Coba cek pembasan sub-forum mining international , semua bahas tehnis mining dari hardware dan software nya, cloud mining justru masuk nya di sub-forum service announcement di market place.
975  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: knapa sih situs minning ujung2 nya pasti scamm???.... on: August 29, 2017, 01:59:17 PM
Judul nya menyesat kan  Grin
Cloud mining harus nya ga di kategori in sebagai mining,
Orang ga ada kegiatan mining nya, cuma kontrak aja tanpa tau hardware nya nyata atau fiktif.
976  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Seputar Mining Dengan PC on: August 29, 2017, 06:39:37 AM
Mo tanya gan di indo khan listrik g stabil kadang ada pemadaman dr pihak pemerintah trs it berpengaruh dg pc /vga nya ga klo tiba2 mati dlm posisi mining?

Ga masalah gan,
Kan itungan cost nya itu ketika lg mining aja
Ketika padam ya arti nya cost nya jg berhenti.
Ga ada kerugian arti nya.
Mo tanya gan di indo khan listrik g stabil kadang ada pemadaman dr pihak pemerintah trs it berpengaruh dg pc /vga nya ga klo tiba2 mati dlm posisi mining?

Ga masalah gan,
Kan itungan cost nya itu ketika lg mining aja
Ketika padam ya arti nya cost nya jg berhenti.
Ga ada kerugian arti nya.
Saat mati listrik alat juga akan mati. dan kita harus setting ulang untuk memulai minning. ya kerugian kita ga dapat hasil nambang waktu mati listrik

Itu nama nya ga ada kerugian gan,
Kan jelas listrik mati alat jg mati, klo alat mati arti nya ga ada listrik yg terpakai arti nya, profit 0 rupiah and cost : 0 rupiah , gak minus kan? Klo ga ada hasil tpi tetap dibebani biaya listrik itu baru kerugian atau minus.

Dan kenapa harus setting ulang? Semua settingan kan ada di awal buat, dr buat .bat file dengan isi settingan mining, sampe bikin start up script biar tiap restart atau reboot otomatis eksekusi .bat file nya.
977  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: (NEWBIE QUESTION) Mining Altcoin on: August 28, 2017, 07:59:25 AM
Selama ini ane belum pernah mining, cuma trading aja yang ane jalanin dari 2015 sampe sekarang (itu juga dari hasil bounty). Meski profitnya kadang lumayan besar tapi ga pasti dapet setiap hari dan kadang juga rugi jadi ane ngelirik tentang mining ini. Tapi ane lebih tertarik untuk mining altcoin daripada bitcoin, karena yang ane baca2 mining bitcoin itu lebih susah dan hasilnya sedikit.

Pertanyaan ane:

*Berapa minimal biaya yang harus di persiapkan untuk mining dengan spek menegah saja (ga terlalu tinggi dan rendah)?
*Koin apa sebaiknya yang di mining, dengan hasil yg lumayan?
*Apakah ada toko atau sejenisnya yang mau datang kerumah sekalian pasang dan ajarin tutorial untuk mining? (bener2 newbie soal mining jadi perlu panduan dulu) dengan extra biaya asal ga terlalu mahal juga ga masalah.

Ini ane tanya2 dulu soalnya perlu dana ga sedikit dan persiapan tempat dan juga listriknya, (penginnya tempat mining dan listriknya misah dari rumah untuk mempermudah perhitungan biaya).

Kalo ada yang mau ngajarin tentang mining bisa inbox ane nanti kalo dana dah siap bisa ane hub balik dan ane kasih detail tentang ane, yang pasti lokasi ane saat ini di jawa tengah bagian selatan (perbatasan jogja dan pacitan jawa timur)

maaf gan numpang nanya antara trending sama mining perbedan nya gmn ya gan maaf baru masih belajar2 nie


Simulasi simple nya gini :

- Mining, agan punya modal , dibelanjain alat , alat nya dipake buat ngehasilin coin, trus coin nya dijual.

- Trading, agan punya modal , dibeliin coin , trus harga naik agan jual coin nya , pas harga turun agan beli lg , pas naik jual lg.
978  Local / Mining (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Seputar Mining Dengan PC on: August 28, 2017, 07:53:32 AM
Mo tanya gan di indo khan listrik g stabil kadang ada pemadaman dr pihak pemerintah trs it berpengaruh dg pc /vga nya ga klo tiba2 mati dlm posisi mining?

Ga masalah gan,
Kan itungan cost nya itu ketika lg mining aja
Ketika padam ya arti nya cost nya jg berhenti.
Ga ada kerugian arti nya.
979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO][PCA][BOUNTY] GROWERS INTERNATIONAL TWITTER CAMPAIGN [250 GRWI WINNER!] on: August 28, 2017, 03:52:47 AM
You guys have started counting and distributing?
Can we change our avatar and banner now?
980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FrazCoin [POW][SCRYPT] | [NovaExchange ✔] on: August 26, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
You cannot blame people who sold their coin cheaper than your rates,
just because you bought at 120sats,don't blame someone who bought  at 40sats and sell at 80sats

Profit is profit, and if you profit then you winning.

As you can see there is no real demand that support fraz, only 0.9 BTC
And also so many dust order on buy and sell sides,
Even without "major" buying or dumping the price can easily jump and fall drastically.

Dev has nothing to do with price
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