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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
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on: November 05, 2014, 10:57:40 PM
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I had little too much time yesterday so I made a simple ROI calculation in excel. Anyone who wants to calculate earnings in staking and BRO investment feel free to check it out. Not perfect but it gives you an idea what to expect. Its very easy, you just have to enter 5 variables and expected costs: -Expected price of BRO in USD -Number of Bergstake -Staking days -Invested BTC -BTC price in USD Download link: https://mega.co.nz/#!YVQVBJyQ!pHBjN37JH1OelgQcLlR1pgidpEW-U0ki1LNkBBrzVrcIf you think i should add something, let me know. Hope that will come useful at least for someone.  Nice sheet. I love making spreadsheets. I changed some of the costs around to fit my personal BTC financial situation. Obviously, the hardest prediction is the value of BRO. I've been trying to think about this. I believe Full Tilt Poker at the time of the DOJ investigation had about 400mm in customer deposits and FTP was the #2 poker site in the world at the time, behind Poker Stars. I'm not sure how much Poker Stars had on deposit but it was clearly a lot more than FTP. Based on PokerScout, the average, middle of the road, crappy poker site is about 1/50th the size of Poker Stars. If I take a conservative estimate and assume Poker Stars has 400mm in deposits, I can make a very conservative estimate and predict Breakoutgaming could have about 8mm on deposit. Remember, that's just poker. I have no idea about the fantasy sports market, but I think that market is way bigger than poker. If Breakoutgaming has $8mm on deposit, that means the minimum market value of BRO will be 8mm. Not everyone holding BRO will have their coins held on the gaming platform so the market cap will probably be higher. At an 8mm market cap, the price of BRO would be about $0.41. Currently, the ICO price of BRO is about $.06. That's a 583% return not including the value of the Bergstake. The value of Bergstake is the long-term kicker here that makes the ICO even more valuable. If the price of BRO is $0.41 then each Bergstake you own will produce about $.03 worth of BRO every year. That's about 50% on your original investment every year for the life of Breakoutgaming. If we try to calculate the present value of the future Bergstake cash flows, the value of Bergstake alone is conservatively worth 5X the current ICO price. based on who is involved in the Breakoutgaming project, I think these numbers are a very, very, very conservative estimate. Disclaimer: These are my own personal estimates and this is not a recommendation to purchase BRO. Investments should be based on your own personal risk considerations and research.  interesting, thumbs up! 
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: |ANN|]BitNet-1ST Civilian DARKNET|AES+ts|Domain and Website System|VPN|Freecoin
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on: November 05, 2014, 02:30:27 AM
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better if the member moving to bitnettalk too many FUDDER in BTT
do you mean that bitnet will take place of btt? did you read my post?... moving to Bitnettalk,not to take place of btt.. more pleasant in own forum too many fudder in btt So far VPN thread has been very clean, have not seen any postings of trolls spreading FUD. Maybe its because VPN team deletes those post, I do not know. maybe not yet,..fudder always had a way I have noticed that if people just ignore fudders they quickly leave the room. Fudders love attention, so just ignore and have a laugh. what da fud did u say?
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core
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on: November 05, 2014, 02:28:31 AM
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In the meantime, while prominent VeriCoin cheerleaders, influential figures of the coin like the pant man and Isokoira are trolling in this thread without bringing anything useful to the table, the price continue to reflect the lack of transparency, integrity, honesty, dedication, development, innovation ... lack of everything really what the developers promised at the beginning.
YES YOUR RIGHT... THIS IS ALSO THE PERFECT THRED TO KEEP REPEATING YOURSELF. THIS WAY WE DONT LITTER THE REAL PLACES PEOPLE GO TO TO GET INFORMED ON VERICOIN. AT LEAST NOW WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THE TROLLS. WE SHOULD NAME THIS THREAD..ANY IDEAS? ILL START...MAYBE ....TROLLS "R" US OR ... TROLL TANK! lame
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
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on: November 05, 2014, 02:26:30 AM
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why is the sale of 5500 coins less than 2 days long? was expecting for the 5500 coin sale to last at least 4 days or so. thanks
The reason we put the coin sale at @6600 after the first change, was to give the original participants a bonus for jumping on board early. We were going to drop it to @3000 immediately, but felt the sudden drop would make it difficult for the next group to participate. For those who still want to participate, the BRO per btc is still attractive and will remain so imho even @3000 BRO per btc. i was in at 6600 and added on at 6000 
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale LIVE! |Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
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on: October 31, 2014, 12:43:41 AM
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We changed the structure of the coin sale after listening to the community and the response has been very positive. We took away the PoW mining altogether and gave more to the crowd sale participants plus there is no waiting period for Bergstake to start working its magic. Remember you can sell all your BRO if you'd like but Bergstake lasts forever and will keep signing blocks for you!
Thanks all!
this is a much much better deal. everyone agrees. thanks for putting up the ticker countdown to the next level so fast. u guys r always quick to hear us.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
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on: October 28, 2014, 07:40:21 AM
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48 hours is too short a period of time, hardly enough to get the BTC to you on time. Why the rush?
The 6000 Bro per BTC have 6000 Bergstake, right?
For Jay- How does Bergstake behaves when mining, does high number of bergstake have preference over small numbers like in the NEXT case?
Thanks!
We are only offering 6000 BRO per btc for a 48 hour period to give others a sufficient chance to buy-in at the bonus level. After that period, we will be offering 3000 BRO per btc until the "coins sale" closes or we reach a sufficient number of btc needed to complete the project. We will close the sale early once if we reach that number early, we do not want to accept any more btc than necessary to finish and showcase the products. Do you suggest a longer period than 48 hours? Given the announcement was just made, I think 5 days is more reasonable for the flash sale @6000 BRO per btc. As Barabbas said, most people get paid at the end of the month, and the 31st Oct, is still 4 days away. We are all ears, we are taking all the feedback into consideration and are leaning toward extending the bonus period to allow others time to take advantage of the extra coins being made available. -- I believe you should extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO + 6,000 bergstake until the end of the ICO. . I'm sorry Barabbas but that's not fair to early investors. . Where is the incentive to early investors if they extend the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO until the end of the ICO  . Why would I invest my BTC now, while you enjoy investing your BTC elsewhere for the next 22 days, then come back here to invest in Breakoutcoin at the last day of the ICO  . 2 to 5 days is more than enough to allow anyone to take part of the "bonus price" of 1BTC = 6,000 BRO, especially with end of month payrolls coming in 4 days. . Time to exit from your other investments if you're really serious about this one ... In my opinion the only incentive should be to get in at the ICO price before if sells out. That should be enough of an incentive. Coming in the first of the 100th should be completely irrelevant, as long as there's supply. It isn't a matter of convenience for investors, it is a matter of reaching objectives for the issuers of the ICO. i vote 5-7 days
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