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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 26, 2016, 01:37:05 AM
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. What do you mean? frapdoc is totally legit! *cough* Hashfast *cough* Friend, just in case you're young & naive: Nnothing and no one here "is totally legit." Welcome to Bitcoin. What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree. this is interesting what scam did cypherdoc pull off? |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do people around you think about Bitcoin ?
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on: March 26, 2016, 12:55:03 AM
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My family and friends always want me to turn 10$ usd into huge money in days...ughhh if not they loose interest.
LOL i know this has happened to me a few times. poeple simply dont understand that 20% in a year is a very very nice return. they seen to many "turn 100$ into 10,000$ in just 60seconds" options trading ads on the net. they figure if bitcoin can't beat that its not worth looking into i promised a dude 100% return in 1 year, hes like " why would i want to lock up my money for 1year " and then he goes to buy lotto tickets....... some poeple just dont get it. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Classic or Core? Which one is better?
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on: March 26, 2016, 12:42:27 AM
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Basically, this. Developers overwhelmingly support the Core roadmap. Wallet developers and library maintainers are overwhelmingly supportive of Segwit, despite this misinformation on this forum that "omg, too many lines of code, such complex!" Bitfury/Alex Petrov, who produce compelling whitepapers on the system from mathematical/statistical perspective and understand the limitations of p2p infrastructure, are highly supportive of Core.
its would be nice if this could be clear, i mean devs outside of blockstream coming out and saying they like segwit over 2MB. I'm not sure there's as much support as you paint, but i really dont have much clue. lets ask the guys that are building "iguana" https://bitco.in/forum/forums/iguana.23/or maybe the programer of the bitfinex wallet. or idk everyone else outside of core, ofcourse core devs think core devs are right.... what does the Ether kid think? |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Classic or Core? Which one is better?
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on: March 26, 2016, 12:36:04 AM
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It is better not do this kind of project because all the space project are very centralized, where programmers have no decision making right Bitcoin -- like any engineering project -- requires very careful planning and execution. god forbid we K.I.S.S ( keep it simple stupid) |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you holding your bitcoin for a price increase?
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on: March 26, 2016, 12:32:04 AM
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I'm holding 4 BTC and I think btc can go 600 in next few months  wow you sure once. if true you got $2,400 but if I were you I would sell half and hold the other half. meh its only 2K just leave it there a few years and hope bitcoin somehow keeps growing even with the core roadblock i mean roadmap. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 26, 2016, 12:22:43 AM
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. lol... its not like they planted these idea in my head, have i been known to ever have any other idea? for like 1 day i was in the small block camp. I like the other forum, the like button is cool. https://bitco.in/forum/you know me, simple little things and am i'm all like WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you have yourself a good night you fucking asshole. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 11:46:05 PM
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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? It's not up to me and quite the opposite I'm increasingly comfortable leaving the block size alone for the near future absent some undeniable consensus on how to move forward. Segwit, payment channels are coming, lightning later on. Bitcoin is thriving why the fuck would you want to mess with it. you get segwit means ~2X more bandwidth requirements on nodes right? you're comfortable with that? For the nodes who care to upgrade sure why not. You can also opt to stay behind. glad to see your onboard for segwit. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 11:36:54 PM
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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? It's not up to me and quite the opposite I'm increasingly comfortable leaving the block size alone for the near future absent some undeniable consensus on how to move forward. Segwit, payment channels are coming, lightning later on. Bitcoin is thriving why the fuck would you want to mess with it. you get segwit means ~2X more bandwidth requirements on nodes right? you're comfortable with that? |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 11:27:09 PM
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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coinbase CEO: Core Team is a "Systemic Threat"
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on: March 25, 2016, 11:00:47 PM
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This Coinbase guy, Armstrong is becoming a real pain in the ass & a genuine threat to the future of bitcoin.
which future? Decentralized future, the future of proper devs at Core & Blockstream. Armstrong can't be trusted, he is in bed with government officials & doesn't give a shit about the fundamentals of bitcoin. dont worry Armstrong is just 1 person, he can kick and scream all he wants as long as the majority disagree with him its going to be fine. it must suck having to comply with US law. not sure obeying the law to the letter = in bed with government officials... probably means he doesn't want to get fucked by government officials. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 07:53:34 PM
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are views as to what constitutes a decentralized system differs to much...
Run by various government/institutions/corporations != decentralized coin. That's a "Capital Coin". If you want such a coin, just fork off with the existing support that you have already. Don't try turning Bitcoin into something that it isn't. in my view its my duty as a bitcoiner to discuss my views on its future. this doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with the status quo. ( if we all just TRUST 1 group of devs to have our best interest in mind, WTF is the point??? ) also... Run by various government/institutions/corporations Can == decentralized IF there is no central authorityso the peers are tend to be a level above individual poeple. Meh.... beside no one is stopping individuals to invest in a 10,000$ node and participate in this network i am suggesting. That's a pretty big IF. Most governments, institutions and corporations are fundamentally centralized. Hence why they each can be regulated. the canadian government is not subject to the USA government in a centralized manner. in a sense the systems of governance around the world are decentralized, each operating independently from each other working toward a common goal ( making pencils! ) when the governments meet at the united nations are they there to hear the wishes of a commander and chief and carry out his orders. or do they each act as individuals working ( trying to work ) toward a common goal, each with there own agenda. So long as there are competing interest who are dependent on a consistent blockchain Bitcoin will remain decentralized. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 07:39:35 PM
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blockstream fanboys word of the months
january: doomsday
Um, XT/Classic fanboys been saying doomsday since a year ago. When is the apocalypse of "fee event" coming? this is a case of racism i mean implementationism  just because some poeple that supported classic or XT said things doesn't mean all the supports said or continue to say the same thing. it was a silly pressure tactic to win poeple over to XT, we all saw right through it. sooner or later we will see if bitcoin implodes once blocks are 2MB in size.... |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 07:18:23 PM
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are views as to what constitutes a decentralized system differs to much...
Run by various government/institutions/corporations != decentralized coin. That's a "Capital Coin". If you want such a coin, just fork off with the existing support that you have already. Don't try turning Bitcoin into something that it isn't. in my view its my duty as a bitcoiner to discuss my views on its future. this doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with the status quo. ( if we all just TRUST 1 group of devs to have our best interest in mind, WTF is the point??? ) also... Run by various government/institutions/corporations Can == decentralized IF there is no central authority so the peers are tend to be a level above individual poeple. Meh.... beside no one is stopping individuals to invest in a 10,000$ node and participate in this network i am suggesting. |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT
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on: March 25, 2016, 07:11:58 PM
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hard to believe that Core implementing the necessary "fixes" for Blockstream to work ( a for profit company ) isn't guilty of the same thing...
They aren't adding any "fixes" solely for Blockstream. If you think that the Lightning Network is Blockstream's product, then you're wrong. and 2MB is hardly a rushed impl. the rushed impl was rejected ( 20MB )...
It is being rushed (28 days grace period). you make it sound so evil... I want Sybil attack to be harder to pull off. and I believe corporations/government/rich will also value decentralization and run their nodes from their own HQ. I see nothing wrong with the cost of running a full node rise so long as nodes remain distributed. I believe the nodes can be representative of end users as well, if it does end up costing 10,000$/ year to run a node i believe bitcoin will be 100-1000X more popular than today, and in that case, its OK for 1000's of people to "group buy" full nodes.
This seems similar to the nonsense that Veritas was spreading. I have no proper words to describe how stupid this is. Bitcoin was always about individual sovereignty, sovereignty which will be lost if you have a system where a node costs $10k. Bitcoin will only remain decentralized as long as running a node costs as little as possible. are views as to what constitutes a decentralized system differs to much... |
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2MB Pros and Cons
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on: March 25, 2016, 06:50:58 PM
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ok exstasie you need to explain to us, the means by which you believe bitcoin can change its protocol rules Overwhelming community consensus. See 2013 hard fork for reference. Much of the community clearly rejects these attempts to change the consensus rules at the present time. i was told 51% of hashing power was all that was really NEEDED.
That's all that is needed for a majority miner attack. That's all that's needed for miners to add restrictions to the protocol (soft fork) -- with or without community input (ie we have no power over that). But 51% hashing power has nothing to do with forcing node operators to uninstall their software and install some incompatible software. If you remove consensus rules, that is what must happen. Otherwise those nodes will ignore the new network. i think this is not what the white paper seemed to indicate. ( " bitcoin is whatever the longest chain happens to be " or somthing to that effect ) altho i must agree with your assessment as a better description of what it takes to change the rules. i simply believe >75% hashing power = Overwhelming community consensus ( clearly node count isn't a good gauge as we see with classic nodes its more representative of economy marjory then anything else ) and its not fair to say that pools command to much hashing power they are known to let their user base vote individuality ( altho they do seem to reserve the right to vote on the behalf of non-voters ) i think a lot of the problem comes from the idea that individuals have a say, they dont. if we have 10 loud poeple on bitcointalk.org pushing for 1MB blocks forever, this should have no bearing on gauging " community consensus ", this is mearly political white noise. |
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