Well you obviously haven't heard the song - Biggie Smalls - Mo Money Mo Problems  
I just stated that it can be difficult liquidating some positions without crashing the currency when you own a large stake, it is a problem, but a problem that we enjoy having.

What community would you think will be more loyal to our vision?

One that makes you a fortune or one that does not? thats why we are creating this I.C.O

I remember when Ethereum was around 50 cents and the future founder of this project had said "it is so frustrating to know something for certain and people not listen" he said that regarding nobody listening to him about ethereum and previously BTC, all he was trying to do was help people, completely free of charge, he is a well known person within the community and he had literally told hundreds of people to buy ethereum they will retire and for awhile he was thought of some crazy idiot that buys into ponzi scams. Once ethereum hit $1500, i can tell you that there were a lot of depressed people in our community who would never have even known what crypto were if not for the founder, now these same people beg him for advice and try to throw money at him he has been offered several opportunities to create and run a hedgefund, he refuses and i don't blame him, they had previously laughed at him and in it purely for the greed not for what blockchain stands for.

The Point is - he is still certain he can make a lot of people extremely rich, So why should he not try? We are going to put a lot of effort into something that is not really going to be extremely beneficial to ourselves but we believe its beneficial to the crypto community because once we hit a billion dollar market cap.
We will have the power in numbers, a large loyal wealthy respected intelligent community that would have the power to effect an exchanges business, exchanges act how they please completely corrupt but imagine we could remove or add hundreds of millions from their exchange? they are going to listen to us! We can shut down scamming promotors. We will become like the law of the cryptos. I don't won't to give away too many details of what we can achieve for the greater good of cryptos but you will see.

Of course there are scammers, but not everyone is a scammer, we are that 1 in 200.

What trades would you like to see? how we made $800,000 in 9 months from $2000 or buying dash at 50 cents? Or would you like to a screenshot of my local bitcoin account from 2012? I guess you are from the UK and so are we.. lets meet up and take you out for a night and im sure any doubts you have of us needing money and trying to create any type of scam will be gone. Also in UK you would receive a large prison sentence for any scams.

P.S Your account shows you have been around since 2013 so if you are not extremely wealthy yourself(i have a feeling you are not) you must be pretty stupid or had doubts in the future of cryptocurrencies. We never once had any doubts and our reason for such great success, so i can understand if you are slightly bitter, But don't worry we are here to help you my friend one or two years from now your dreams can be achieved... The only risk to an investor is if cryptos become completely outlawed. No happening.  

80% of I.C.O are scams anyway, so putting their names down has obviously not been preventing scams. They will just slowly kill the 'revolutionising blockchain' project off to make look as if the project failed but really it was a planned scam from the start..

This is all done  by

youtube paid promoting 'experts' who got into crypto at the beginning of the bull run in 2017 by luck.

Paying already extremely rich early investors to promote or be an advisor for them.

spending millions on advertising to scam even more millions.

Inside connections with exchange owners.

We got into crypto because we believed it to be revolutionary against the controlling powers but now it just seems like the real world.. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, greed has completely changed and corrupted the community we want to change this, thats all.. If nobody is interested in making a change we will still be rich but the foundations and initial purpose of cryptos will be lost.

You are completely correct but If not for lending platforms blatant annoymous scams, we would have thought that would be impossible.

But remember BITCOIN started anonymously and thats what made it successful, the governments had nobody to blame. Most projects in the early days started with just some guys Bitcointalk account.

We have good reasons to remain anonymous..

No repercussions, we have a lot to lose once we start making a lot of people, a lot of money, somebody else is going to lose.

No lawsuits is our project even legal?

We can achieve so much more without having any repercussions for our actions.

We are extremely private people, if we would have made ourselves known to the entire community from the beginning we could have raised a lot more money and our wealth would be 10 x what is now for sure. Bitcointalk accounts from 2012. but its not about the money anymore, we have everything we could ever need. its about creating a community that works together for all of our benefit. Just as multiple small secretive groups of rich men are already doing now, so its only fair we do the same create a community that gives the average newbie a fighting chance against these entities.


But you are correct running away would be a major concern for investors and we have been thinking about finding a trusted ambassador to reveal our identities to only to be revealed if we runaway.

You must be stupid to think that we didn't already use our own money to invest. The only problem we have now, is having too much money to invest it takes awhile to get out of our positions. But yes brought as many WTC as possible around $2 and Vechain at 100/110 sats.

What you are not understanding is that its not about the money anymore its about building a loyal community that works together to create successful for each other, to be heard and helped. For example ALONE your opinions and problems in crypto are useless nobody cares, nobody will listen to you, but if you have thousands of people working together with same agenda then people will listen. We aim to remove the monopolised power of the exchanges.

We will be using our own funds to purchase all unsold coins in the I.C.O to guarantee this will be a success. So at least we know for sure all coins will be sold

Hello can you inbox me regarding coin creation as im a newbie cannot inbox you

If this I.C.O was set up on the day i made this post, we would now already be in 300% profit. If we set this up in march last year we would be in 10,000% Profit. If we set this this up in 2012 when we first tried everyone would be in hundreds of thousands percent profit. 

Its not about the money anymore, its about the community regaining back some control from the exchanges,youtubers, promoters etc, a normal individual has no voice in this community anymore but a large entity working together for a greater cause will be heard and will be prosperous, just as everything felt in the early days.

Looking for any advice, questions, volunteers or partners regarding setting up I.C.O as quick as possible

We are a group of 3 crypto multi multi millionaire investors with our founder heavily invested in Bitcoin since 2011... This I believe gives us a huge advantage and the founders track record proves this..

He has correctly predicted

BTC to $20,000 when bitcoin was around $70

Dark/Dash to $1000 at 50 cents

Ethereum around 80 cents in his words 'the only coin that can compete and come close to bitcoins market cap'.

XRP to 1$ from the beginning although he never invested in XRP..

The reason for wanting to create this I.C.O is that we feel community has become tainted, although since bitcoins existence there has always been scammers, pump an dump groups like Fontas and Wolong but the general atmosphere still seemed more community driven and generous to help each other thrive with a rebellious streak to the establishments. If anybody remembers these times please feel free to comment......Now this space seems full of youtube twitter scam artists being paid to promote scams to rip off their followers, inside trading, groups of large net individuals plotting and planning pump and dump scams, infested with I.C.O scams basically stealing billions of dollars with 60% becoming worthless within 6 months. This is extremely damaging to cryptocurrencies reputation and new investors including potential future investors.

Bitcoin is starting to become everything we were against.

We are looking to create an I.C.O to raise $3,000,000 that will be used to build a community and make them wealthy we will work together to bring prosperity to our community. We have a unique idea that will not only bring profits to coin holders we will also reduce coin supply in ways never done before and expect 50% of supply to be burned within 2 years and a lot of millionaires made... The majority of funds will be used to trade cryptocurriences and we expect our net assets to be worth around one billion dollars around this time 2021 as hard as this may be to believe we actually think its a modest timeframe as we are confident it would be a lot sooner (see below)... Most I.C.O are promises of something that doesn't exist yet. A lot of these billionaire dollar market caps had only raised tens of millions thats all they are worth. thats why so many crashed and the billions of dollars went into a select few pockets. When our market cap hits a billion dollars we will have a billion dollars in assets.

The idea has passed around by our founder previously, but as a very private and now busy person he wants to remain anonymous.. We needed to prove it can be done so in march 2017 we purchased 1 bitcoin around $1200 solely for the reason of turning it to one million dollars and around 9 months later that one bitcoin was worth over $800,000. We have all the coin purchase orders to prove this.. it has since been cashed out and given to a children's charity by the founder with no mention of bitcoin.

How it was done

trading via poloniex within one month it was around $10,000 then around $20,000 in july we then start to deposit into binance where we brought 8000 BNB coin under a dollar $20 dollars was our sale target and 5000 WTC around 60 cents with a target sale of $50 but we sold most around $35 then then TRX the quickest and biggest profits brought in at 17 sats and sold around 1500 sats...(we also traded numerous shit coins that are now worthless but all made us a profit) This can all be proved and will be put together on medium but it will take time to gather and sort through all these orders and exchanges so please be patient as this was just a last minute draft for some advice and questions as we proceed through creating this I.C.O..

our ambition is to become a large anonymous decentralised hedge with a loyal respected even secretive community that will be achieved by making them extremely prosperous as numbers are always an extreme advantage, we can achieve so much more together than alone.



I have intentionally not released many details regarding the I.C.O but open to any questions and interest from anyone that would like to be involved.... Please ignore the grammar this was a rushed last minute decision post.