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461  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 07:55:45 PM
CYPER

kindly STFU and leave this thread to people that actually mine here

thank you

Dear jojo69,

you can use my previous post as a response to your insulting comment.

thank you.
462  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 07:28:37 PM
No, I wish to stand outside the restaurant saying that the restaurant and the food are good in general, but can be improved.
What is so bad with adding luck per user selectable length of time to the already good selection of statistics?
How is that against the interest of pool users?
Wouldn't you like it if you could see what the luck was for the past 7 days for example?

I've said this before, but I'll repeat myself.  Why does it matter?  Luck is luck.  Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.  You have no control over it.  If you're considering going to a pool because it has "good luck", make sure you throw salt over your shoulder first.

M

If it doesn't matter then why every single major pool including BTCGuild display luck?
You are making a point that luck does not matter, yet the reality shows it does: people use it to feel good about their choices, regardless of being completely random.

Considering 25+% of the BTC mining population is on BTCGuild, apparently a large number also don't care.

M

Don't confuse not caring, with not knowing.
I am absolutely certain that if the admin was to put a poll on the website along these lines - "Would you like me to add an option where you can check pool luck for any period you want" more than 50% would vote YES. Realistically even more than 75% would vote YES, but it has no negative effect on their mining experience, but quite the opposite - the more statistics there are, the better. People like fancy graphics and stats. It also would have a negligible effect on the performance of the website as the data is already there - it just have to be presented in a different way.
So it's a win-win situation.
463  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 06:35:17 PM
No, I wish to stand outside the restaurant saying that the restaurant and the food are good in general, but can be improved.
What is so bad with adding luck per user selectable length of time to the already good selection of statistics?
How is that against the interest of pool users?
Wouldn't you like it if you could see what the luck was for the past 7 days for example?

I've said this before, but I'll repeat myself.  Why does it matter?  Luck is luck.  Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.  You have no control over it.  If you're considering going to a pool because it has "good luck", make sure you throw salt over your shoulder first.

M

If it doesn't matter then why every single major pool including BTCGuild display luck?
You are making a point that luck does not matter, yet the reality shows it does: people use it to feel good about their choices, regardless of being completely random.
464  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
...
Ah! So you wish to stand outside the restaurant saying that the food is crap.

No, I wish to stand outside the restaurant saying that the restaurant and the food are good in general, but can be improved.
What is so bad with adding luck per user selectable length of time to the already good selection of statistics?
How is that against the interest of pool users?
Wouldn't you like it if you could see what the luck was for the past 7 days for example?

My apologies to all the other members on the forum, I did not realise that it was trolling for comment. Hopefully it will either mature or find another interest such a the opposite sex.

For a moment there I believed that you might have the capacity to answer some of the questions raised, but seeing your homophobic comment I think I expected too much from you.
It seems that you are not interested in making anything better, because you don't know what better is Smiley
465  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 05:25:23 PM
I think that the benevolent and clearly illustrious cyper should create a pool. Average pool luck will be 7000%. Pool fees will be -10%. Reports will be limitless thanks to a data warehouse, provided free of charge of course.

100% support from me cyper. But while you're beavering away on this, just STFU and GTHO. Idiot.

Oh more insults. I feel so hurt  Roll Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM

Would it be too much trouble to add a nmc table to the payout & withdrawals section? just askin'.

The admin has selective reading and replying, so don't hold your breath for any changes.

Really, he made the change I asked for in 10 minutes.



You must be an existing client  Grin

I haven't paid any fees, so I don't get the same attention as you  Cheesy

Ah! So you wish to stand outside the restaurant saying that the food is crap.

No, I wish to stand outside the restaurant saying that the restaurant and the food are good in general, but can be improved.
What is so bad with adding luck per user selectable length of time to the already good selection of statistics?
How is that against the interest of pool users?
Wouldn't you like it if you could see what the luck was for the past 7 days for example?
466  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: January 05, 2014, 04:09:47 PM
Well, is quite sure that prices at cex.io are in real bubble:
I used mining calculator at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ with buying 100GHS at current price from cex.io for 4BTC (1GHS=0.04BTC), and I couldn't break even with higher monthly increase of difficulty than 32% per month, see http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/7908fc0daa
If used more appropriate increase in difficulty of 100% per month, I can break even after 6 months when I buy 100GHS for 2BTC (1GHS=0.02BTC) and after next 6 month the profit will be 0.04 BTC, see http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/2be83da502

I guess that market participants at cex. io dont use math. Any comments?


Fixed percentage difficulty increase month over month over month.
Maybe in 2020 the total surface area of Earth would not be enough for all the asic chips, needed to sustain that difficulty.

difficulty is adjusted and can decrease... what happens nowadays is that minining power keeps increasing so new difficulty is always higher. i believe it should break someday

People who use the Genesis block calculator do not realise that. They blindly believe that difficulty will increase to infinity by the same fixed monthly percentage.

Don't get me wrong, I know the difficulty will level at some point in the future. Thing is that if it won't level in 3-4 months, current prices for GHS are too high (they are great for operators to resell uneconomical hardware to suckers and speculators on suckers). And since we don't see deceleration on the side of hardware yet, it is wrong to suppose that the difficulty will adjust any time soon: new more powerfull and relatively cheaper products are announced already throughout the 2014.

What I expected in answer is somebody, who show me numbers: I bought GHS/BTC at this price and after 6 months I broke even (no referals counted) in terms of bitcoin and now I am getting positive cash flow only - you see it was real investment and I am not a sucker.

I completely agree that GHS prices are too high and one can't ROI.
My gripe was mainly with the Genesis Block calculator.
A better calculator is http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php
467  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: January 05, 2014, 04:08:19 PM
i was looking my account an saw this
Quote
C A U T I O N:
If you lose access to your smartphone, or uninstall the app - you will not be able to login to your CEX.IO account.
BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR 2FA CODE IN CASE YOU LOSE ACCESS TO YOUR SMARTPHONE OR THE APP.

How do i make a 2FA backup? no one knows when i could lose my iphone and that would be enought of bad luck.. :/

You can also generate back up 2FA codes from your Google account I believe.

Google Account has nothing to do with CEX.io, so you believe wrong.

You're missing the point. My 2FA program or app is Authy. Authy attaches each 2FA to an account, one of the options is my google account. I can backup my Authy App and it will restore when I get my new phone after I verify who I am. The one catch is that I think you have to have the same phone number(i could be wrong). ie after I bought my new phone I still had the same phone number so I just restored per the Authy apps directions. There may be other apps for 2FA

That is different from "You can also generate back up 2FA codes from your Google account I believe."
The codes generated from your Google account are only valid for your Google account and other and Google associated services, that are protected by 2FA.
468  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 04:02:11 PM
I think that the benevolent and clearly illustrious cyper should create a pool. Average pool luck will be 7000%. Pool fees will be -10%. Reports will be limitless thanks to a data warehouse, provided free of charge of course.

100% support from me cyper. But while you're beavering away on this, just STFU and GTHO. Idiot.

Oh more insults. I feel so hurt  Roll Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM

Would it be too much trouble to add a nmc table to the payout & withdrawals section? just askin'.

The admin has selective reading and replying, so don't hold your breath for any changes.

Really, he made the change I asked for in 10 minutes.



You must be an existing client  Grin

I haven't paid any fees, so I don't get the same attention as you  Cheesy
469  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 03:59:28 PM
I am yet to hear a valid reason for why pool luck cannot be verified + pool does not provide luck statistics for a user selectable length of time even if it is in a form of rough data, that can be easily copied into a spreadsheet. It doesn't even have to be extra work for the server. It is already there in the luck graph. A simple table with the values will suffice.


Then, can you not just scrape the page source?

Quote

series: [{
               name: 'Pool Luck',
               turboThreshold: 100,
               data: [
                  [Date.UTC(2013,9,05,01,17),117.8300],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,01,56),105.3600],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,02,35),99.2500],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,03,14),105.4600],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,03,53),86.7500],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,04,32),105.4200],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,05,11),99.1800],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,05,50),111.6800],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,06,29),111.7300],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,07,09),105.4000],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,07,48),111.6200],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,08,27),99.1800],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,09,06),92.8800],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,09,45),99.1100],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,10,25),92.8800],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,11,04),80.4200],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,11,44),92.8900],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,12,23),86.5900],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,13,03),92.7300],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,13,42),92.7400],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,14,21),86.5300],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,15,00),86.5300],[Date.UTC(2013,9,05,15,40),92.7300],
.
.


Thank you kind sir. That is actually a worthy post.
Do you have any idea how to insert specific parts of this code into excel into appropriate columns?
I assume that is in some specific format - csv, json?
470  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: January 05, 2014, 04:39:07 AM
Well, is quite sure that prices at cex.io are in real bubble:
I used mining calculator at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ with buying 100GHS at current price from cex.io for 4BTC (1GHS=0.04BTC), and I couldn't break even with higher monthly increase of difficulty than 32% per month, see http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/7908fc0daa
If used more appropriate increase in difficulty of 100% per month, I can break even after 6 months when I buy 100GHS for 2BTC (1GHS=0.02BTC) and after next 6 month the profit will be 0.04 BTC, see http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/2be83da502

I guess that market participants at cex. io dont use math. Any comments?


Fixed percentage difficulty increase month over month over month.
Maybe in 2020 the total surface area of Earth would not be enough for all the asic chips, needed to sustain that difficulty.

difficulty is adjusted and can decrease... what happens nowadays is that minining power keeps increasing so new difficulty is always higher. i believe it should break someday

People who use the Genesis block calculator do not realise that. They blindly believe that difficulty will increase to infinity by the same fixed monthly percentage.
471  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 04:37:16 AM
Making a new thread with that 'self moderation' feature that was added about a year ago is looking better and better.  Even ignore doesn't stop people from quoting the troll.

I would imagine that if I mined in BTCGuild for the past 2 months and paid 2.5BTC in fees instead of somewhere else I wouldn't be labelled a troll for asking valid questions.
Pool admins tend to be very well mannered and patient with existing clients Smiley

I am yet to hear a valid reason for why pool luck cannot be verified + pool does not provide luck statistics for a user selectable length of time even if it is in a form of rough data, that can be easily copied into a spreadsheet. It doesn't even have to be extra work for the server. It is already there in the luck graph. A simple table with the values will suffice.
472  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2600 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 04:05:22 AM
It is so nice to be a member of a forum, where one can express his opinion without fear of being silenced, so fuck you too and everyone else who decided that using insults towards me will somehow magically make me disappear from this thread.

Let's test the selective reading of the admin again: don't you think that your users might actually enjoy seeing what the luck was for the past 1 week or 10 days or 1 month?
I do enjoy it, cause it's already there. The pool luck graph is working and goes back two months. It is enough to let you know what happened. Between that and the 24 hour earnings total you can get an understanding of your position on earnings. If something greater is needed, wait for the weekly update from organofcorti's Neighbourhood Pool Watch http://organofcorti.blogspot.com He's got all kinds of reports and CDF stats going back over a year.


There are only luck values for each closed shift, which makes it very difficult to calculate luck for a specific period of time.
I spoke with organofcorti and he also confirmed this and I quote:

Quote
I think though that you're missing the fact that my personal gripe with BTCGuild is actually the same as yours - a non standard data presentation means I have no easy way to know for sure that the "luck" jibes with those from other pools.


473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 05, 2014, 03:35:26 AM
I'm surprised no one's wished Bitcoin a happy 5th birthday today, and raised a glass to Satoshi! Wink

Genesis block: 2009-01-03 18:15:05
http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f

Wasn't it 2 days ago?
474  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: January 05, 2014, 03:33:05 AM
Well, is quite sure that prices at cex.io are in real bubble:
I used mining calculator at http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ with buying 100GHS at current price from cex.io for 4BTC (1GHS=0.04BTC), and I couldn't break even with higher monthly increase of difficulty than 32% per month, see http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/7908fc0daa
If used more appropriate increase in difficulty of 100% per month, I can break even after 6 months when I buy 100GHS for 2BTC (1GHS=0.02BTC) and after next 6 month the profit will be 0.04 BTC, see http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/2be83da502

I guess that market participants at cex. io dont use math. Any comments?


Fixed percentage difficulty increase month over month over month.
Maybe in 2020 the total surface area of Earth would not be enough for all the asic chips, needed to sustain that difficulty.
475  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2600 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 05, 2014, 03:30:36 AM
CYPER, you are a fascinating combination of phenomenally-high maintenance and self-centeredness. There's a heaping spoonful of entitlement mixed in, too. It really boggles my mind to read what you consider to be appropriate comments.

+1

I'm sick of reading posts by that asshole. Go and fuck off back into whatever hole you came from Cyper.

Your mother should be really proud of you. Retards are usually quite in nature, but you are quite outspoken.

A number of people have endeavoured to satisfy your incessant requests for information masked as denigrations of the pool and pool operator. You couldn't have tried harder to criticise the existing payment and operational structures of the pool, even going as far to infer that pool users were somehow captive to what you consider to be an excessive fee. Not only has your conduct been rude, selfish, arrogant and dismissive of any attempts to respond to your supposed concerns or present alternative points of view, you've been deliberately resistant and wilfully obtuse as it's clear that your recent posts have only been about you, what you think is important and what you think other people in the pool and the pool operator should do.

You either couldn't or deliberately refused to 'take the hint', so with the subtleties of language being wasted on you with your repeated posts continuing to infer that only you were right while everyone else was wrong, I opted for the blunt instrument and said what many others have been thinking - you need to fuck off with your combative attitude, a pool by its very nature is collective and if you don't like it you can take your hashing and disappear.

The only retardation on display is your own social retardation, how many pages must readers listen you your acute selfishness and barely-concealed aggression toward the pool, the pool users and the pool operator before an equal and opposite reaction is triggered?

You've passed that point, it's now time for you to be quite quiet.

-----





"And now, back to your regular programming... "

Smiley





It is so nice to be a member of a forum, where one can express his opinion without fear of being silenced, so fuck you too and everyone else who decided that using insults towards me will somehow magically make me disappear from this thread.

Let's test the selective reading of the admin again: don't you think that your users might actually enjoy seeing what the luck was for the past 1 week or 10 days or 1 month?
476  Economy / Exchanges / Re: ***CEX.IO Cloud mining official page*** on: January 04, 2014, 11:44:00 PM
i was looking my account an saw this
Quote
C A U T I O N:
If you lose access to your smartphone, or uninstall the app - you will not be able to login to your CEX.IO account.
BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR 2FA CODE IN CASE YOU LOSE ACCESS TO YOUR SMARTPHONE OR THE APP.

How do i make a 2FA backup? no one knows when i could lose my iphone and that would be enought of bad luck.. :/

You can also generate back up 2FA codes from your Google account I believe.

Google Account has nothing to do with CEX.io, so you believe wrong.
477  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2600 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 04, 2014, 11:40:29 PM
Would it be too much trouble to add a nmc table to the payout & withdrawals section? just askin'.

The admin has selective reading and replying, so don't hold your breath for any changes.
478  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2600 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: January 04, 2014, 11:39:40 PM
CYPER, you are a fascinating combination of phenomenally-high maintenance and self-centeredness. There's a heaping spoonful of entitlement mixed in, too. It really boggles my mind to read what you consider to be appropriate comments.

+1

I'm sick of reading posts by that asshole. Go and fuck off back into whatever hole you came from Cyper.

Your mother should be really proud of you. Retards are usually quite in nature, but you are quite outspoken.
479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: January 04, 2014, 04:17:06 PM
Guys, I do not want to go and look at all these pages, but can someone explain to me why there is a Jupiter that hashes at +650GH/s and the other one only 500GH/s ? is it overclocking ? or the hardware is not the same ?

and what do you think a fear price would be if I can get hold of one now (in BTC terms )?

The FEAR price. Be afraid, be very afraid  Grin
480  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s on: January 04, 2014, 05:24:45 AM
My bad looks like pics are cointerra.  Where is cointerra located?

Here is what the seller says
"
They are in Texas where my brother works. He works for Cointerra. I'm flying there this weekend to pick them up in time for the auctions to close and then shipping them to winning bidders.

- butterfliesandthings
"
When you see butterflies....run...as fast as you can!

In the opposite direction and NOT towards them obviously  Cheesy
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