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1  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: June 27, 2017, 07:26:03 PM
I just realized that in the time this thread has been around, I've performed 3,000+ hours of clinically supervised work, tested for and received a clinical license, started private practice work, and (hopefully) changed dozens of lives for the better.

Meanwhile...flat-earth contributions?

Me thinks time is better spent on other things.
2  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 13, 2016, 09:21:09 PM
Why so many words. Just put a plain and simple statement. I've been successfully indoctrinated by the religion of monkey man science to believe it.

Blinded by that science bonus material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmCE8GhTi-M

EDIT: In a fairy tale of course you can prove spinning ball earth with that science, no doubt. But point is that flat earth reality destroys it and you should wake up.
What is it with flat earthers calling everyone monkeys? or monkey man science? you sound brainwashed when you talk like that. like how scientologists sound.

But anyway.
can you prove Flat earth with logic? NO
Can you perform tests/experiments to support your claims? NO
Is their sound reasoning behind your claims? NO
Do you try to counter argue to expand your knowledge? NO

But i can prove my beliefs with logic, tests, sound reasoning, and valid arguments.

your belief was popular with Socrates but then it was completely disproved by Aristotle. ever since then the debate was closed. there is no point in trying to make up reasons to believe in it with fringe reasoning.

The best you can do is say that it is your belief, and YOUR reality. and that you cant prove it but you believe it. then turn it into a religion. because that it what those are for.

I wouldn't worry about it too much.  Among most conspiracy theorists, providing evidence contrary to their beliefs will only make their beliefs stronger, and this is usually proportional to how good the counter-evidence is.  If it doesn't make them think the first time, it likely never will.

That being said, they're already paying for their mindset in real life, and how much they pay is proportional to both the time spent and how public they are with it (e.g. are they just sharing their beliefs anonymously, or are they sharing them with friends, family, coworkers, etc.?).  The more they dive into the conspiracy, the more it will take a toll on their social success, financial success, and overall life satisfaction.
3  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 05, 2016, 07:32:17 PM

Well  I'm not impressed.

You do distinguish between science and technology do you? Try better next time or is it the joint the cause  Cheesy



Computers and the Internet are a product of scientific research.  Please don't insinuate that I smoke pot.  I don't.
4  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 05, 2016, 07:07:15 PM

Oh, yet another monkey man science fairy tale believer. Welcome to flat earth reality where your spinning ball earth indoctrination will be shattered.

Seeing a curvature when hiking?  Grin

Put your time for best use researching flat earth instead.





   

Says the guy typing on his monkey-man science computer connected to the monkey-man science Internet, researching flat Earth on YouTube (owned and operated by the evil Google corporation with a value estimated at over 20 times the annual budget alloted to the satanic NASA conspirators).

Quit repeating yourself, please.  We heard you the first several dozen times.
5  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 05, 2016, 03:31:56 PM
jesus christ, even in the old ages its a myth people thought it was flat.  people had the same mental capacity as now pretty much, Smiley

How do you know, where you there?

well for example, Eratosthenes in about 200BC calculated the size of the earth, the tilt axis of the earth, etc.  

Don't forget to mention Errortosthenes' calculations also work for a flat stationary Earth with a small Sun orbiting 3,000 miles above!

Not if you introduce a third location, genius.
6  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 05, 2016, 01:57:31 AM
jesus christ, even in the old ages its a myth people thought it was flat.  people had the same mental capacity as now pretty much, Smiley

Capacity?  Probably.  Though now we see the Flynn Effect, i.e. an increase of about 15 IQ points in the general population in the past century or so corresponding with a rise in technology; tech is complex and forces us to think about things in complex ways and engage in more complex tasks.

Still, there's an upper limit to how well we can deconstruct and analyze complex situations, and most conspiracy theorists vastly overestimate how good they are at doing this (because they vastly underestimate complexity).
7  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: October 04, 2016, 05:28:38 PM
I was explaining how to levitate small objects with an electric field using a balloon. While atmospheric pressure is the force pushing an object up or down depending on its density, ultimately up and down is defined by the electric field in-between the dome and the ground.

...Dependent upon weight, not density.  We already know and can and have tested that all objects 'float' equally in weightless environments despite having varying densities.  How many times are you going to ignore this? Just watch a video of the inside of a vomit comet.  People wouldn't float around in the cabin during a zero-g maneuver if your idea was true because the air is less dense than people; it's a closed, pressurized cabin.  If you have the cash, take a ride yourself and bring a helium balloon with you; it, too, will float just like everything else in the cabin.
8  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 30, 2016, 03:19:54 PM
Urgent call to ALL Globots, explanation needed: 360 light issue on the globe model

Bonus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqwWDZta37k

For kicks on my lunch break, I watched 30 seconds of the first video.

I'm assuming the video is something about why it isn't dark at noon after 1/2 year, which is explained by the difference between sidereal and solar days which are (for simplicity) ~4 minutes apart.  Because ~4 minutes multiplied by (for simplicity) ~180 days = 12 hours, there's your explanation.

Next.

So why after 6 months you will be looking in the opposite direction at night but still see the same stars?

Some stars you see will be the same, but some won't, and how many stars are the same depends upon where you are.  The earth revolves around the sun and rotates on its (tilted) axis with a slight wobble. The earth isn't spinning on multiple axes, so some parts of the sky will always remain visible at night, particularly if you're closer to the poles.  At the poles, the night sky won't change much at all from season to season. Generally speaking, as you move farther away from the poles, the more variation there will be from season to season.
9  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 29, 2016, 06:51:59 PM
Urgent call to ALL Globots, explanation needed: 360 light issue on the globe model

Bonus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqwWDZta37k

For kicks on my lunch break, I watched 30 seconds of the first video.

I'm assuming the video is something about why it isn't dark at noon after 1/2 year, which is explained by the difference between sidereal and solar days which are (for simplicity) ~4 minutes apart.  Because ~4 minutes multiplied by (for simplicity) ~180 days = 12 hours, there's your explanation.

Next.
10  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 09, 2016, 05:17:17 PM
According to the school curriculum, and Wikipedia, the Earth has the shape of an oblate ellipsoid. Many perceive this information as an indisputable fact, and do not even try to check it in practice. Nevertheless, common skepticism still alive on our planet

If a person tries to argue on rational grounds that it is reasonable to be skeptical of an oblately-spherical Earth because they don't "check it in practice," then in order to be consistent he needs to be skeptical of a litany of other facts he hasn't personally verified. 

Some examples may include: the existence of any country they haven't been to; molecules and atoms; bacteria; photons; his own mortality; any image/photo/video of any event they didn't personally witness; etc.

It's easy to see how consistent application of such extreme skepticism would be detrimental to him.
11  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
Plan a flight route that always flys the same directions on your compass. For example East. Then keep flying in that direction until you end up at your starting point.

The Earth is a flat disk (like the pizza pie) and the compass needle always points to the center (north). This being so, if you travel east or west you will eventually travel in a circle.

And again, here we have the claim that, despite all of the cutting edge technology available to us, not a single person has ever figured out how to travel in a straight line.
12  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 03, 2016, 06:43:54 PM
Random quote from YouTube:


Quote
The Trickie Dickie Show 1 month ago
It blows my mind for the past 15 months, I've been unable to convince even one person that I know, personally, that the earth is not a globe. I know some very smart people but they still can't understand any flat earth proof I show them. I've told everyone I know about the flat earth and I have been laughed at, I've been told that I need to see a shrink (several times) and my mother told me that it was a good thing my father is dead, so he can't see how his son turned out.
I even paid my 20 year old son and my sister to watch many hours of the best flat earth videos and I've shown anyone who would look at it, videos that I took with my own telescopic camera that clearly shows there is no curvature 11 miles across Tampa Bay. But still, I have never, in my entire life, spoken to even one person face to face, who believes  the earth is flat.
My girlfriend of 10 years can't accept that the earth is flat. She hasn't dumped me over this but we had to agree to disagree on this subject. She's a Christian and she's very smart. When I told her that the earth was flat, she read all of the Biblical scriptures that talk about the Firmament and the pillars of the earth, etc.and watched some flat earth videos but she still couldn't see it.
This HAS to be MORE than just cognitive dissonance. It must be a satanic spell. No other explanation makes any sense. I've never felt so alone in my whole life. I pray every day that God will allow someone I know see the truth, as he let me see it. But so far that hasn't happened. 
I won't give up though. God woke me up so I would teach the truth to others. God bless anyone who's reading this comment and who still believes that the earth is a globe. God can work miracles. Just a few years ago, I didn't believe in the Bible and I believed that the earth was a ball.
-Mike U.

"No other explanation makes sense."

 Surely being wrong isn't an explanation.

*Sigh*

"I've never felt so alone in my whole life."

Hopefully, this will teach him that there are consequences for having the arrogance to simultaneously think he is smarter than virtually everyone, and that the collective of humanity should discount the billions of man hours spent on scientific endeavors to satisfy his own personal lunacy created from all the hard "work" he did watching YouTube videos.  Indeed, look at what the "truth" has done for him.
13  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 29, 2016, 06:44:09 PM
Flat Earth theory as faulty with anomalies, and incorrect. As you mentioned with the 'hallway' things get smaller with distance. With Flat Earth theory the Sun (and Moon) should get smaller and smaller till it vanishes in the distance. The Sun doesn't; it disappears below the horizon at the same size it was when directly overhead. That's only possible with a spherical Earth. And, if the Moon and "Sun were the same size the Moon would appear much larger than the Sun during a solar eclipse and would block out the solar corona; that doesn't happen because the Sun is tremendously larger than the Moon and tremendously farther from Earth than the moon and only appears the same size due to perspective. Try to objectively analyze real data and concrete scientific and mathematical evidence for a spherical Earth at some point and you might learn something.


That's straight bullshit, sometimes it's much larger at sunset than when it's overhead. The atmosphere magnifies the Sun and Moon near the horizon.


Also perspective proves the earth is flat, you can see the Sun shrinking before disappearing past the vanishing point if you're at a high enough altitude to minimize atmospheric distortion and significantly increase the distance to the horizon.



The sun isn't actually larger at the horizon.  It's angular size doesn't change, your brain just thinks it does because it's near the horizon instead of overhead.  Taking measurements of the sun's angular size will confirm that the angular size is the same on the horizon vs. overhead, despite that it "looks" bigger when it's near the horizon.  Atmosphere doesn't have anything to do with this.  Ironically, this means it's a trick of perspective. Go figure.
14  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 24, 2016, 12:53:21 AM


Look at my disappointed face, oh Sensitive One. 
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 23, 2016, 02:21:37 PM
If the earth was flat, wouldn't the sun set and rise at the same time for everyone?! You guys are fucking morons.

Do your own fucking research. Your ignorance is curable. Don't be a BADecker.



How the 4 seasons work on the Flat Earth model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R52_PdZlSq8





LMAO! that is hilarious, are you a flat head? or joking? funny as a joke but if you're going around telling that, that is incredibly sad and you need to go back to primary school. Also where is the Antarctic and south pole?

Pull your head out of your ass and do your own research, you fucking goof.

Start here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg15966870#msg15966870

Don't ask me any more questions. Research what I post or go fuck yourself.


PS; tell us where it is that SEA LEVEL becomes SEA CURVE so water can form a BALL. You can't, so fuck off.

You have so many sources on this shit, like you devote you life to it. You should really research the other end of the spectrum, because your head is so far up your own arse with this shit it's unbelievable. I recommend you take a break and travel or something and then you will realize how insignificant proving the earth is flat actually is. I mean why even lie about a flat earth?!?!

It's going to be rough for him.  He's already invested so much time in this belief that he stands to lose a lot (psychologically) if he admits he's wrong. It's one thing to admit you were fooled by intelligent, powerful people, and quite another to admit you were fooled by a bunch of idiots on YouTube.  One of the links he posted references a guy who drinks his own piss because of the "health benefits" and who calls himself "Allegedly Dave" because, well, how can he really know that he's Dave?  Oh boy.

Hopefully he keeps this to himself and doesn't go off in the real word telling his friends, family, and employers where he will stand to lose even more.
16  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 11, 2016, 04:01:34 PM

Lol uh, top right image clearly shows curvature.  Some meme you got there.
17  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 08, 2016, 09:14:44 PM

...clip...

I live near Chicago and have been to the Michigan shores several times.  If you attempt to view Chicago's skyline from Michigan's shores, sometimes you won't see the skyline at all and sometimes you will see it to varying degrees.  The apparent height of the skyline changes with atmospheric conditions.  People have taken photos of the skyline from identical locations and the apparent height of the skyline changes, hence this is a result of atmospheric refraction.


Nice try but it's refraction that prevents one from seeing Chicago sometimes.



First it was a mirage and now it's atmospheric refraction. What's next, are you guys going to claim it was space aliens from outer-space with their holographic projector?

Mirages are caused by atmospheric refraction.  They're not different explanations.  You probably shouldn't comment about either one if you don't understand their relation.  You might want to ask questions instead of making untrue claims that you know you don't know and don't understand (like the claim about refraction obscuring the skyline that you pulled out of your rear).  Temperature gradients help determine the degree of refraction. Can you tell me the conditions by which refraction over a body of water would obfuscate the skyline?
18  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: August 08, 2016, 03:50:37 PM
How as an individual can I know if the Earth is a sphere or a flat disc? What experiment can I do that doesn't involve trusting information from a 3rd party that would prove what the geometry really is?





If, as we are taught in school, that earth is a ball that is 25,000 miles in circumference at the equator, then the spherical trigonometry to calculate the curvature of said ball is 8 inches per mile, times the mileage squared.

So...

1 mile = 8 x 1 = 8 inches of curvature
2 miles = 8 x 4 (2x2) = 32
3 miles = 8 x 9 (3x3) = 72
4 miles = 8 x 16 (4x4) = 128
5 miles = 8 x 25 (5x5) = 200

10 miles = 8 x 100 (10x10) = 800
20 miles = 8 x 400 (20x20) = 3200
30 miles = 8 x 900 (30x30) = 7200
40 miles = 8 x 1600 (40x40) = 12800
50 miles = 8 x 2500 (50x50) = 20000
60 miles = 8 x 3600 (60x60) = 28800

At 60 miles, the earth's curvature is supposed to be 28,800 inches, or 2400 feet.

The Statue of Isis (oops, I mean Liberty) in Jew York City is 305 feet tall, and yet it can be seen from sea at a distance of 60 miles.

The Statue of Liberty should be well over 2000 feet below the supposed curvature, yet it can still be seen from 60 miles away.

How is that possible?

Because there IS NO CURVATURE, that's how. THE EARTH IS FLAT.

It's called "SEA LEVEL", and not "SEA CURVE" for a reason  Wink



They have TV on ships. You can see the Statue of Liberty on TV from anywhere in the world. But you can't see it directly from 60 miles. If this happened even one time, it was simply atmospheric aberration because of some strange atmospheric condition. At 60 miles, besides the Statue being such a tiny speck that you would need a telescope, it is entirely below the horizon. You can't see it.

Fuck you and your ship's TV.

And fuck your parroting of the bullshit "mirage" excuse.



Oh right, that's why you can see the entire Chicago skyline from Michigan, 60 miles away. It's a MIRAGE.

Ya, fuck right off. Keep believing the bullshit, pal.

From http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/north-america/united-states/new-york/articles/Statue-of-Liberty-50-fascinating-facts/:
Quote
38. The statue functioned as a lighthouse for 16 years (1886-1902), lighting a distance of up to 24 miles away.

And so it serving as a lighthouse for 16 years means what? Lighting a distance from 24 miles away means what?

Nothing.

Thanks for your lame input.

Now run along and go watch your ship's TV. Maybe Sesame Street is on.

PS; when you have a minute, maybe you can tell us when it is that sea level stops being sea level, and changes to sea curve? Thanks, we'll wait.




I live near Chicago and have been to the Michigan shores several times.  If you attempt to view Chicago's skyline from Michigan's shores, sometimes you won't see the skyline at all and sometimes you will see it to varying degrees.  The apparent height of the skyline changes with atmospheric conditions.  People have taken photos of the skyline from identical locations and the apparent height of the skyline changes, hence this is a result of atmospheric refraction.
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 09, 2016, 05:50:41 PM

[...clip...]

Yay, voodoo physics.

WTF is "point source yellow?"


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_source#Light

You seem to have read the definition and still don't know the definition.


You're just being a total idiot now, a point source light is basically self explanatory; light emitted from a point. In the case of the Sun it's yellowish light.

1) The sun isn't a point source of light.

2)  You could say light emanates from multiple points across the sun's surface, but it doesn't seem you were saying this given your lightbulb analogy.

3)  "Point source yellow" is phrased so strangely and reflects the fact you are trying to use fancy technical terminology to make it sound like your idea has some scientific merit when really it's just being used out of context.
20  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: July 09, 2016, 04:24:58 AM

[...clip...]

Yay, voodoo physics.

WTF is "point source yellow?"


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_source#Light

You seem to have read the definition and still don't know the definition.
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