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1081  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 17, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
On the face of it, I disagree that "the thread of salvation through the Messiah runs throughout the whole" of the Bible. I found that the Dead Sea Scrolls support my position:

The messiah, according to Jewish [and early Christian] belief, was not a God that would deliver his people by clearing their way to heaven. The messiah was to be an empowered King who would destroy the enemies of the Jews and regain their Holy Land.

Yet the Messiah was for everyone who believed. So how would an earthly kingship be available to those who had passed already? People want it now. So, they misinterpret a lot.

The Revelation in the Bible sets it out rather plainly in some ways. The book of Hebrews is another that helps. St. Paul's writings suggest that we don't know what form we are going to take in Heaven.

Smiley

You know, you base everything off a book that was written when people knew squat about science.  Don't you understand that?  Your house is built on a foundation of cards.

You know? The Bosnian pyramids show that the people of Atlantis knew a whole lot more about science than we give them credit for. And some of their knowledge was so different from ours that we are just beginning to relearn it.

Smiley

Doesn't change the point I just made.  Everything you believe, and all your arguments, are based off a book that was written when people thought the sun raced across the sky on a chariot.  Those wrong beliefs and ideals are the bible.

I'd have more respect for you people if you had any kind of new evidence in the last 2,000 years.

 Undecided

Ironically, the scientific method is based upon assumptions that are a priori invalid, and the knowledge of the invalidity of these assumptions was known before the existence of the scientific method.   One such assumption is the assertion of a Positivistic Universe.   This assumption has been known to be provably wrong for thousands of years. 
1082  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 17, 2014, 05:41:43 PM
Supernatural is a term used to explain what the science still can not explain. Only closed minded people think science can explain everything and can not think outside the box.

Science can explain everything.  Look at all that was unknown when god was first invented.  Soon, science will explain everything.

Smiley

Unfortunately, this is impossible.  The problem of inductive reasoning is very real and will always set a limit of knowledge beyond which the scientific method is forever unable to explore.
1083  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 17, 2014, 03:35:49 AM
Scientific proof that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists?

Say after me:

I AM

The sound is the proof you need. What more needs said?

The FSM hypothesis is not powerful enough to explain the evidence for survival:

Here is one example of high-quality evidence of the survival of the personality:

Quote
Dr. James Hyslop, professor of Logic and Ethics at Columbia University, and one of the most distinguished American psychical researchers, reported the following incident.

[...]

As Sir Wiliam Barrett concluded in his review of the case: "The simplest and most reasonable solution is that the information was derived from the mind of the deceased person."

2 page PDF:
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/Cases_51-75/case56_soule-soul.pdf

Is FSM going to give us any information at all? I challenge you to explain the evidence using the FSM thesis.

The whole Flying Spaghetti Monster comparison is a priori invalid.  Its characterization is similar to a polytheistic god and not a monotheistic one.  In short, it's a miserable failure of an attack against the existence of God.
1084  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 14, 2014, 07:34:34 PM

Wow giga off-topic.
I didn't mention anything about infinity. And even the monkey page doesn't talk about infinity.

The point is that there are (1000 billions)^2 = 100000000000000000000000000 stars in the universe. The probability of having the conditions applied in the 70s in at least one of planet around one of them is rather high IMO.

Sorry. Me bad for assuming that you were, in part, talking about infinity when you mentioned a webpage - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem - that has as one of its basic premises the idea of an infinite amount of time. And, in real life, it seems that you almost have to have eternity for an infinite amount of time to exist. Sorry.

Smiley

I have to ask. Do you know what the theory of evolution is? It almost sounds like you think its some kind of random pick from the tree of life.
Or that guy. ( dont remember his name) that was worried about going around for millions of years waiting to evolve a mouth so he could eat.
Thre is nothing random about evolution.
You dont have to go thru every single configuration to get to your goal like that monkey in the link

Edit: Sorry I rememberd wrong. It wasnt a mouth. It was going to the toilet. Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Lt5ClxG5Q


If the idea of evolution has to do with randomness, then, because of the difficulty involved along with probability, evolution is impossible.

If the idea of evolution has to do with cause and effect, then, because of the difficulty involved, the proof for God has to do with universe/machine > machine Maker = no evolution.

If it has to do with a combination of the two (randomness at times), or with something else entirely, then we don't have a clue, and evolution theory is entirely pointless.

Smiley

In other words you dont know what it is. Please read up on the subject. Is easyer to have a debate when both sides knows the facts

Unfortunately, reading up on evolution facts doesn't provide any facts. It only provides conjecture.  Smiley

So you havent even read up on it. How can you say it is impossible if you dont know what it is?

The problem I have with the theory of evolution is that the evidence supporting the theory of evolution can also be used to support other equally-valid theories.  This relates to the problem of "mathematical uncertainty" which is a notoriously difficult obstacle for scientists.  Given two or more equally-valid theories, which one is correct?  For example, the same evidence supporting evolution can also be used to equally support a theory in which evolution in conscious states leads to an evolution of physical states, and not vice versa as modern evolutionary theory implies.
1085  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Bitcointalk Status is Now Legendary on: September 14, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
I want be Legendary too...
I must post every day haha

Just posts 10 x's a day for 365 days and there you go lol  Grin

That is not enough Smiley That would not even bring a newbee to hero level.
You will need about 2 years of posting.

Edit: Bowing deep for the highness Cheesy

2 years of posting for what?
To become highness?
LOL I don't consider this forum ranks so important in my life and don't think so much about this.
Many other things are more serious and important Smiley

No, to make money.  Nice to make ~$10k/yr. extra just because of some unimportant forum rank...

Why would he make 10k$/year because he is legendary??

Signature campaigns, escrow possibilities, easier to transact in the marketplace section, greater exposure to exclusive opportunities (e.g. receiving free mining devices for testing, etc.), giveaways, opportunity to sell the account for multiple BTCs, etc.

Hero and Legendary accounts are pretty valuable...
1086  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The day mining become unprofitable! on: September 12, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
My Question is simple as far as i know miners get reward for blocks and the blocks include the transactions what will happen when mining stops? How will then transactions made?

Your question as phrased has a simple answer -- when mining stops, no transactions can be confirmed.

For miners to stop mining, they need a good reason to.  Unprofitable mining may be one of those reasons. 

The posters before me are correct Bitcoin is self-regulating in this regard.  If mining is unprofitable, miners will drop out and difficulty will drop as well until mining once again provides an incentive to process transactions.

After all coins are mined, miners will be rewarded with the transaction fees contained in each solved block.  It is assumed that if Bitcoin still exists at this time, it will have a very large user base and therefore the sum of all transaction fees in each block will be significant .
1087  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 0,00011227 BTC is how many bitcoins? on: September 10, 2014, 01:49:00 PM
My thought is someone who needs to ask this question, or has trouble understanding metric prefixes, is probably best served staying far far away from bitcoin.

So much for mass adoption.  That rules out like 80% of the global population.
1088  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-09-10] Pay for Uber in Bitcoin . . . Coming Soon on: September 10, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
This is awesome! I just picked up my (3rd) job as an Uber driver.   I'd love to see some BTC fares Smiley
1089  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visited my first Bitcoin ATM in Chicago today on: September 07, 2014, 08:51:57 PM
Usually there's a huge "spread" of buy to sell on these things, which has rendered the entire Bitcoin ATM ecosystem a complete useless joke.  Maybe that's what happened.  When he finally got in there, surprise, the markup was fucking $21 just to purchase.  Greedy ATM owners have singlehandedly made this innovation pointless. Sad

-B-

I agree.  This review has singlehandedly prevented me from checking out the ATM for myself.  I live in the Chicago area. 
1090  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visited my first Bitcoin ATM in Chicago today on: September 07, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
To be honest... I was very nervous not knowing what to expect.
It was easy as could be.

When I walked up the machine I clicked start.
You enter your mobile phone number and get an SMS code.
Enter that code, and you continue.

You are asked if you want to buy or sell.... in my case, I tried a sales today to 1 BTC.

I click on 'Sell Bitcoin'
Next it asked me to enter a dollar amount --- so I typed in $500.

Next I was presented with a QR code on the screen -- saying I have 5 minutes to send BTC to that address.
I opened my mobile wallet, scanned the QR code and clicked send.

Within seconds the screen confirmed a transaction had been started.

I was told I need to wait for 1 confirm (up to 10 minutes) for the transaction.
I would receive another SMS when the transaction was ready.

About 10 minutes later I was sent an SMS with a Redeem Code.
I returned to the machine.


Same process.. enter phone number, then confirm the SMS code.
Now I click on 'Redeem Code'  and typed in my code.

After I typed it in...the machine proceeded to dispense $500 in cash!
As easy as could be!!






This sounds like ANYthing but convenient. 

Let me get this straight...you had to return to the machine AFTER waiting 10 minutes for the first confirmation?

Yeah, no thanks.  Might be nice once in a while when you have an afternoon to kill and nowhere to be. 
1091  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Bitcointalk Status is Now Legendary on: September 07, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
I want be Legendary too...
I must post every day haha

Just posts 10 x's a day for 365 days and there you go lol  Grin

That is not enough Smiley That would not even bring a newbee to hero level.
You will need about 2 years of posting.

Edit: Bowing deep for the highness Cheesy

2 years of posting for what?
To become highness?
LOL I don't consider this forum ranks so important in my life and don't think so much about this.
Many other things are more serious and important Smiley

No, to make money.  Nice to make ~$10k/yr. extra just because of some unimportant forum rank...
1092  Economy / Economics / Re: Does bitcoin suffer from Gresham's law? on: September 07, 2014, 04:48:22 AM
Personally, if I have the option of paying with either LTC or BTC, I spend LTC.  Psychologically, it feels as though I'm parting with something less valuable an that is easier to recoup.  I'll also usually spend fiat before either BTC or LTC for the reasons.  So, I would say "yes" to answer the OP's question, but to what degree I don't know.  It seems that businesses like Overstock are seeing consistent purchases made with BTC.
I would disagree with your rational behind this. If you are given the choice between spending LTC and BTC you should pick the one that gives you the better rate. It is very easy to convert BTC to LTC (or LTC to BTC) on almost any exchange. If you can get a better deal paying in bitcoin then you should spend your bitcoin and if applicable sell your LTC to buy the BTC you just spent.

I think given a choice, people will spend the currency that gives them the best deal. If the price is the same across two currencies then they will spend what is easiest to acquire.

Oh, trust me, I disagree with my rationale behind this, too!   I'm just explaining how I'm influenced by psychological factors, particularly when the difference in currency rates is negligible.  

The reason I mention this is because this may carry over to the difference in rates/fees between using cryptocurrencies and more traditional forms of payment like credit cards.  A lot of people will still likely use credit cards despite the possibility they may spend as much as 1-3% less by using cryptocurrencies (e.g. if merchant's provide a discount for crypto purchases).  Although irrational from a purely economic perspective, it's a valid point.  I'm evidence of it.
When I am looking for a credit card, I will always look for the best deal. If a credit card company can give me 3% cash back at grocery stores, and 1% cash back everywhere else, and another credit card can give me 2% cash back everywhere, guess which one I will use at the grocery story and guess which one I will use everywhere else. I don't need to give you an answer to know. It should be obvious.

When new egg was offering ~20% on purchases with bitcoin, guess how I paid or my new egg purchase that I accelerated by a few months? Again, it should be obvious. I still have the same amount of bitcoin that I did before my purchase, I simply bought more.

But many people don't think like that, or at least not all the time even if they know it's a financially smarter decision.

It's financially smarter to go to the gas station across the street because its 4 cents cheaper per gallon.  But, that left turn is really, really annoying.  Too annoying.

To me, time, and feeling in control, are very valuable to me.  If it costs me a dollar to decide that I don't want to cut through 4 lanes of traffic within 50 feet of an intersection to get to the left turn lane just to get gas that's a bit cheaper, so be it.  I think sometimes I even psychologically turn down better deals simply because I'm stubborn and I like to feel that I wasn't pushed or pressured into a decision.  Of course I don't think like this all the time in every situation, but depending on my mood or the day I'm having, it happens.

People are weird.  Psychology matters.
1093  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 0,00011227 BTC is how many bitcoins? on: September 06, 2014, 11:54:54 PM
You know, on a side note, you should REALLY be careful with your use of commas and periods when sending BTC from your client...

...though I'm guessing that you don't own enough BTC for this to be a concern.
1094  Economy / Lending / Re: Am about to go homeless, could use some help on: September 06, 2014, 11:12:44 PM
I don't take money from people.  Squall was an isolated incident where I was scammed for 500 dollars subsequently by two vendors and did not have the resources to repay loan so I gave him all I could, 22 BTC.

LIAR.

You said you have $8,000 in possessions you can sell, including a bike you can't even ride.  First post in this thread!

You do take money from people.

That's a good robotic programmed human.  Keep whoring off your word for your imaginary money.

You do realize its been two years since squall lent me that money?

You do realize that I didn't have a motorcycle in 2012, right?

You do realize 'could' means past tense?  Right, like in the past?  Like two years ago?

So your saying you have no intention on trying to pay back his money at all?  Yes you COULD sell your bike and give the proceeds to squall....... A real person who claims to want people to love the world/each other blah blah would likely sell their possessions to pay back somebody who helped them out.  Frankly if your not even trying to pay him back anymore your not going to pay anybody else back either OBVIOUSLY.  However if you were to sell some of your belongings to attempt to continue to payback your loan then PERHAPS others might not assume your some drugged out loser who refuses to work a job, pay his debts and thinks hes going to be rich by a big concert (which happens all the time, big concerts).  Not Right tune is gonna sync the world were not close, never were.  Drugs screwed your brain, move along and flip burgers.

I could be earning maybe a thousand dollars a month if I worked 40 hours a week at a low paying job while completely turning against everything I believe in, or, I could get some land and earn 2-3 thousand a month by growing people real food that is not contaminated with poisons, while staying true to my values and my word.

Yeah, I'll pass.  You may not see it now, but squall will get his money several times faster than if I got in line to work for someone else.

Yup, cannabis which has killed 0 people ever is bad, LSD which has killed maybe 3 people ever is bad, but those burgers at McDonalds (the ones that are 85% ammonia and contain ingredients from silly putty) are GREAT!  Fuck yea!  Cardiovascular disease for everybody!  Like half a million deaths a year isn't enough?!

You see what kind of world we live in?

Dank, as I've mentioned to you before, there is absolutely nothing about having a job that implies you must turn against everything you believe in.  Getting a job does not equal supporting the government.  Getting a job does not equal giving up on love and spirituality.  

Moreover, your plan of getting land and growing real food means that you support and depend on those that do have jobs.  If they didn't, you wouldn't have any tools to buy, no vehicles to purchase to ship that food, no fertilizers to help your food grow, etc.

Hell, I work for the government and I don't even like (certain aspects of) the government!  I didn't sell my soul.

Edit:  I'm also ignoring the fact that you've said multiple times that you believe "we are all one," in which case you would be one with the government and the 'machine.'  Please be consistent.
1095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are bitcoins still safe even on computers disconnected from the Internet? on: September 06, 2014, 10:54:06 PM
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/nsa-hacked-100-000-computers-radio-signals-article-1.1580254

This is fairly old news, and I'm also not familiar with what kind of threat this might pose.  Hopefully someone more knowledgable can share their input.

Since it's now no secret that the NSA has the capacity to hack into computers via radio waves (though apparently only on computers constructed with the proper hardware), what does this mean for things like Armory's offline transactions?  Do you believe that this poses a viable threat, particularly if companies increasingly integrate backdoor radio transceivers into household computers and mobile devices?

Moreover, has this issue been considered by the core devs?
I don't think it would be an issue. The possibility of this happening is still only theoretical and has not been proven. There are also ways to shield your computer from radio waves relatively  easily.

Also if you have your offline wallet secured with a sufficiently strong password this will not be as much as an issue because even if they got the wallet file they would need to crack your password in order to do anything with it.

Referring to bolded section, I considered this but quickly dismissed it as it would certainly not be an issue to upload a keylogger and wait.
1096  Economy / Economics / Re: Does bitcoin suffer from Gresham's law? on: September 06, 2014, 10:50:55 PM
Personally, if I have the option of paying with either LTC or BTC, I spend LTC.  Psychologically, it feels as though I'm parting with something less valuable an that is easier to recoup.  I'll also usually spend fiat before either BTC or LTC for the reasons.  So, I would say "yes" to answer the OP's question, but to what degree I don't know.  It seems that businesses like Overstock are seeing consistent purchases made with BTC.
I would disagree with your rational behind this. If you are given the choice between spending LTC and BTC you should pick the one that gives you the better rate. It is very easy to convert BTC to LTC (or LTC to BTC) on almost any exchange. If you can get a better deal paying in bitcoin then you should spend your bitcoin and if applicable sell your LTC to buy the BTC you just spent.

I think given a choice, people will spend the currency that gives them the best deal. If the price is the same across two currencies then they will spend what is easiest to acquire.

Oh, trust me, I disagree with my rationale behind this, too!   I'm just explaining how I'm influenced by psychological factors, particularly when the difference in currency rates is negligible. 

The reason I mention this is because this may carry over to the difference in rates/fees between using cryptocurrencies and more traditional forms of payment like credit cards.  A lot of people will still likely use credit cards despite the possibility they may spend as much as 1-3% less by using cryptocurrencies (e.g. if merchant's provide a discount for crypto purchases).  Although irrational from a purely economic perspective, it's a valid point.  I'm evidence of it.
1097  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 0,00011227 BTC is how many bitcoins? on: September 06, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Can anyone please help me, i`m a newbie and struggle to understand this things. how do i calculate one bitcoin.

joshmak2

0.00011227 BTC is 0.00011227 bitcoins.
1098  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Bitcointalk Status is Now Legendary on: September 06, 2014, 08:37:02 PM
Well done you have a 5btc worth account, now aim for the next rank status that they will introduce in the future.

How did you get the number?

The maximum value I've seen for an account was 2.9 BTC, above 1000 activity + positive trust.

And I'm not sure if was a legit or a fake deal to build trust.

Thats a pretty huge amount for an account lol.

It's really not that much.  With the ability to join sig campaigns that can net you at least 0.5 BTC per month, this alone makes legendary accounts valuable.   From a scammers point of view, legendary accounts with positive trust may be even more appealing.  I've received offers as high as 20 BTC for control of my account.

I had no idea. Make sense though but 20 BTC? my god ha ... btw: where does one sign up for a sig campaigns ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.msg6815569#msg6815569
1099  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Bitcointalk Status is Now Legendary on: September 06, 2014, 08:31:57 PM
Well done you have a 5btc worth account, now aim for the next rank status that they will introduce in the future.

How did you get the number?

The maximum value I've seen for an account was 2.9 BTC, above 1000 activity + positive trust.

And I'm not sure if was a legit or a fake deal to build trust.

Thats a pretty huge amount for an account lol.

It's really not that much.  With the ability to join sig campaigns that can net you at least 0.5 BTC per month, this alone makes legendary accounts valuable.   From a scammers point of view, legendary accounts with positive trust may be even more appealing.  I've received offers as high as 20 BTC for control of my account.
1100  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are bitcoins still safe even on computers disconnected from the Internet? on: September 06, 2014, 08:34:27 AM
blah blah blah boring topic.

the real question is

Is using paypal safe on computers connected from the Internet?
Is using debit/credit cards safe on computers connected from the Internet?

No, actually the real questions are exactly those I asked in the OP.  Why?  Because it's my thread, and because I don't know much about this technology and was hoping to get reasoned responses from those more knowledgeable than I.

Notice that every response prior to yours actually addressed the OP whereas 60% of posts after yours (excluding this one) do not.  Hence, to me, your post is boring.

But I'm genuinely curious to know why the topic isn't worth your consideration.  It seems to imply that you must know something about the topic if you can conclude it's boring or unworthy of consideration as a realistic threat.
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