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1081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution on: February 25, 2014, 01:14:13 AM
Listen to David Berlinski, he basically knocks evolution down to "nothing more than an anecdote."  If you still believe in the THEORY of evolution after listening to him, you are crazy.

Never heard of that guy, watched him talking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5r5cRlctLM

Pure nonsense, it's hilarious!  Cheesy

I just noticed the all-caps "THEORY" in the post you quoted and it reminded myself of how it is amusing that these people never seem to understand what the word 'theory' means in a modern scientific context. Then using it as damning "evidence" that because that word which they don't understand has been used to describe evolution, therefor evolution must be incorrect.

From wikipedia just in case the cognition to seek out the definition is also missing:

Quote
In modern science, the term "theory" refers to scientific theories, a well-confirmed type of explanation of nature, made in a way consistent with scientific method, and fulfilling the criteria required by modern science. Such theories are described in such a way that any scientist in the field is in a position to understand and either provide empirical support ("verify") or empirically contradict ("falsify") it. Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge,[2] in contrast to more common uses of the word "theory" that imply that something is unproven or speculative (which is better defined by the word 'hypothesis').[3] Scientific theories are distinguished from hypotheses, which are individual empirically testable conjectures, and scientific laws, which are descriptive accounts of how nature will behave under certain conditions.[4]

I've never quite understood how evolution is testable so as to be considered a scientific theory.
1082  Other / Off-topic / Re: If 1 BTC = $10,000 in 2014..... I will treat you guys to something . on: February 25, 2014, 12:04:45 AM
I'm in.
1083  Other / Off-topic / A question about genetic data compression on: February 25, 2014, 12:00:30 AM
I'm aware that lossless genetic data compression technology exists and is improving.  However, I'm curious to know:

1) Can the entirety of data comprising an individual's genetic makeup be accurately compressed such that it meets the following criteria?:

        a)  All compressed markers (e.g. a marker might be information describing a nucleotide insertion, a genotype of a cell, etc.) must correspond to only one individual and no other.

        b)  Furthermore, these markers must provably correspond to the same individual over infinite time.

        c)  The markers themselves must be able to be encrypted, compressed, or altered in some way such that there would be a set of *new* markers, and these new markers must also provably correspond to one individual over infinite time, but cannot be (at least easily) traced back to the original markers.

2) If this can't be done for the entirety of data comprising an individual's genetic makeup (e.g. changes to an individual's genome over time make it impossible to provably link him to old markers), is there some specific set of genetic data that would work?
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: dogecoin LIED and created the illusion of popularity when no-one liked it on: February 24, 2014, 10:58:47 PM
I agree with OP, its not like DOGE had any real backing like NYAN has millions of followers or FLAP has gazillion lovers who pay $1000 for a mini ipad with the game installed on it. I mean that kind of support would be a reason for DOGE to go up that high.

iPhone 5 sold for $3,500 just for flappy game:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iphone-5-16-gig-unlocked-FLAPPY-game-BIRD-24-HOUR-AUCTION-/291086658750?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43c61decbe

What does DOGE have to how for? Meme?

Bitcoin could learn from Dpge What TiVo learned the hard way -- nobody cares about a brilliant idea or revolutionary technology if it's marketed in a way that doesn't appeal.  

Linux and Android advocates need to understand that this is why Windows and iOs can and will continue to dominate consumer space.
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: dogecoin LIED and created the illusion of popularity when no-one liked it on: February 24, 2014, 04:16:06 PM
The same principle would also apply to the super high transaction volume they boast. Its like they are just throwing coins through a blockchain tor-type system.

If you have enough coins to pay transaction fees for long time, you can make any cryptocoin almost stall due to transaction volume, just use
auto-sender to move coins within your own wallet and set it to very high rate. The same goes for exchange volume, set trade BOTs on two or
more accounts to trade between themselves. You'll pay 0.2% or so trade fees to exchange but if your goal is to create an illusion of high volume
(to attract big players) and you invested a lot into coin that should not be a big problem.

Factually, the growth in popularity, alluded to by indicators like transaction volume and network hash rate

There is hashrate pointed at DOGE only if it's profitability is artificially increased to point where miners won't go mine some other scrypt coin.
Contrary to that, most people were and will be mining Bitcoin (especially that one), Litecoin and other major coins no matter what so your story
about DOGE having high hashrate due to popularity is provably wrong.

Stop pumping DOGE price and let me know how many miners will stay
mine it after one or few difficulty retargets, once profitability drops way bellow other scrypt coins.

1) What?  Artificial profit?  It's been very real far as I can tell.

2) "Not I," said the fly.

3) I've been mining DOGE due to my perception of its popularity, so in my case that's self-evidently right.

4) I'm mining it right now.
1086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution on: February 23, 2014, 11:25:25 PM
Listen to David Berlinski, he basically knocks evolution down to "nothing more than an anecdote."  If you still believe in the THEORY of evolution after listening to him, you are crazy.

What's the less crazy alternative?

Involution.
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: dogecoin LIED and created the illusion of popularity when no-one liked it on: February 23, 2014, 11:18:50 PM
Speculatively, Doge's meme marketing strategy reminds me of the Quizno's spongemonkey commercials (which were wildly popular and affiliated with a serious company).

Factually, the growth in popularity, alluded to by indicators like transaction volume and network hash rate, suggest that Doge is arguably the second strongest market to Bitcoin.
1088  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What would you do with ~$10,000? on: February 23, 2014, 11:08:04 PM
I built my 6x R9 270 Last week for $1762.91 exactly. And its pushing 2.68 MH/s
I also picked up 4x ASUS 280x @ $320/ea for my new rig to keep at work. If you are patient you can find the deals. I just have to wait another 2 weeks before they arrive.

When they are in stock 270(non-X) go for $190-210. That's only $1200 for a 420-460 KH/s card.. Just sayin...

I'm sure you're right, that there are better deals out there if you're patient and persistent.  Just keep in mind that time is money, or about $15-20 USD/day currently.

Edit: I also doubt you have the same warranty benefits.  The Tiger Direct square trade warranty is a miner's wet dream.  My rig is a true zero-risk investment.
1089  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What would you do with ~$10,000? on: February 23, 2014, 08:09:11 PM
Either buy a KNC miner or build a scrypt mining rig. With 10 grand you probably can build a good one.

Thanks. Yes we decided to build a scrypt mining rig. Parts ordered and should arrive soon.

To get started our first rig will cost about 1,100 ($1,800). That'll  get us to about 2.7Mh/s and energy usage of about 990watts.
Hope to do a 2 week test and then invest the rest into more rigs. (farm)

Out of interest what sort of /$/btc/ltc per day per Mh/s would you aim for?

So far I am seeing references to about 5.5USD per day per Mh/s but hoping to hit about 8.

$1800 USD for 2.7 mh/s at 990W?

Please direct me to your supplier!

Your talking 2k in gpus alone? I want your supplier too! Only way to get close to this would be 3 heavily OC'd R9 290x's. It will use closer to 1300 watts and you still have to buy the rest of the components to build the rig.

Exactly.  I priced out a 2.9 mh/s scrypt rig with a 4-year square trade warranty through Tiger Direct (IMO, this warranty is absolutely essential for minimizing risk) for $3600, though this includes installation costs which I could save on by building it myself.  This is one of the most cost-efficient solutions I know of.  And, I repeat, that warranty is essential!!
1090  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What would you do with ~$10,000? on: February 23, 2014, 02:31:52 AM
Either buy a KNC miner or build a scrypt mining rig. With 10 grand you probably can build a good one.

Thanks. Yes we decided to build a scrypt mining rig. Parts ordered and should arrive soon.

To get started our first rig will cost about 1,100 ($1,800). That'll  get us to about 2.7Mh/s and energy usage of about 990watts.
Hope to do a 2 week test and then invest the rest into more rigs. (farm)

Out of interest what sort of /$/btc/ltc per day per Mh/s would you aim for?

So far I am seeing references to about 5.5USD per day per Mh/s but hoping to hit about 8.

$1800 USD for 2.7 mh/s at 990W?

Please direct me to your supplier!
1091  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What would you do with ~$10,000? on: February 22, 2014, 11:33:06 PM
Scrypt farm. Go from there

+1

If you have $10,000 to invest and can afford to sacrifice the liquidity, scrypt rigs are, in my opinion, one of the safest ways to invest in digital currency right now.  The components act as a solid hedge on your investment, and ROI times are ridiculously appealing at present.  Basically, as long as the current value of scrypt coins remains relatively stable for 1-2+ months, you should be able to meet 100% ROI when taking into account the resale value of your hardware.  If prices remain stable for ~4-6 months, you'll have recouped your investment solely through mining profits and would have the option to continue mining and potentially scale-up your mining operation, or sell your hardware for profit.

1092  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MTGOX recovery imminent! on: February 17, 2014, 06:08:04 AM

I gave you a good reason why it's impossible.  Gox is reported to owe as many as 68,000 BTC, and your proposed solution does nothing to erase that debt.  You can't just set a withdrawal limit when a withdrawal of any amount is already owed to someone else.  What Gox needs is a solution to pull them out of debt, not just to get people who will never be able to withdraw their deposit trading again.

Thanks Mr.TheJoint Smiley
I think you are making some false assumptions here.  Seems GOX has a pretty high level of operational latitude here.  Going on the stated circumstances... So at some point they determined that there was a problem that required them to hault withdrawals.  Reportedly there are withdrawal orders that were placed at this time that have not yet been fulfilled.  Seems right. Sure. I would expect as much.

So they're basically just late on fullfilling those. Under the claimed circumstances I don't know that has any other impact or implications on the situation legal or otherwise.  I think they have the right to take the time they need to solve the problem without additional cost to them.  Don't they?  So:
- it's possible they will actually fulfill said withdrawals first prior to newer withdrawal orders.
- it also seems possible that, under the circumstances they could void withdrawal orders that occurred at that time, claiming that they were part of the problem, and under newly set withdrawal limits, ask those people to kindly reorder their withdrawals.

Either way, I'm not sure why any of that would make my originally posted theory impossible. My scenario could still play out.

What's my false assumption?  The 68,000 BTC owed to customers was a figure put out by media outlets.

What do you mean this doesn't have an impact?  This is the primary reason that withdrawals are halted.  Gox didn't halt withdrawals because they have a "right" to do so, but rather because playing catch-up is, at present, an impossibility.

Your proposal is impossible (well, absurdly unrealistic) because you're making the false assumption that trading will accelerate when withdrawals come back online, but you're not accounting for the fact that withdrawals can't resume if there is nothing to withdraw, and Gox won't see either increased deposits or accelerated trading if people know that nothing comes out the other side.

Edit: When you're ready, I've got my BTC address waiting.
1093  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MTGOX recovery imminent! on: February 16, 2014, 10:59:22 PM
Longterm trust is going to be an ongoing issue yes.  When GOX's prices and services are reasonably close in value to other exchanges why would you stay with them when peace of mind has been so lacking in the past? Well you probably won't.  But people don't need trust if they gain something. People who don't trust non organic food growers, but they still buy their food.  People who don't trust the oil industry could ride a bike, but they still buy gas.  Sooo...

In the short term, after you've withdrawn your limit and are waiting to withdraw more, people will realize there is working "buy low GOX/sell high elsewhere" scenario happening. then...

> When people buy the price will rise.
> When the price is high, due to trust issues, people will sell & the price will drop.
> When their price drops people will buy & the cycle will repeat.


Just ideas and opinions so far.  Of course these don't make my theory impossible. Successful people build their careers on proving ideas and opinions wrong Smiley Give me something solid that's not open for debate. Such as, its actually illegal, or mathematically impossible, etc. 

I gave you a good reason why it's impossible.  Gox is reported to owe as many as 68,000 BTC, and your proposed solution does nothing to erase that debt.  You can't just set a withdrawal limit when a withdrawal of any amount is already owed to someone else.  What Gox needs is a solution to pull them out of debt, not just to get people who will never be able to withdraw their deposit trading again.
1094  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MTGOX recovery imminent! on: February 16, 2014, 09:15:28 PM
What you suggest isn't possible, at least for a "full recovery" as you stated, because this does nothing to solve the problem of owing their customers as much as 68,000 BTC by some estimates.  Setting low withdrawal limits doesn't do much good if any number of coins requested for withdrawal are owed to others first.  As long as Gox owes ridiculous sums of money, there will always be jammed-up withdrawal requests.
1095  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Gox Incentive on: February 14, 2014, 04:25:30 AM
Bumped for awareness...

...though I'm not definitively suggesting that this is happening.
1096  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: R.I.P. Gox 13/02/2014 on: February 14, 2014, 04:18:54 AM
Depends on what if Mark have the same R.I.P definition as you do....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464465.0 I'm sure he doesnt mind being R.I.P


It's funny you mention this, because I started this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=459059.msg5066383#msg5066383

Edit: Does anyone know how feasible it would be to determine if coins are being sent to exchanges from addresses known to be owned primarily by Mt. Gox?   
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin trouble is pushing Dogecoin up on: February 14, 2014, 03:42:21 AM
Block reward for DOGE halved tonight.
1098  Economy / Service Discussion / R.I.P. Gox 13/02/2014 on: February 14, 2014, 03:41:52 AM
I'm calling it.  

Tonight/today (depending on where you are), Gox earns its tombstone.

It reads:

"Mt. Gox - Exchanging Magic for Mountains of S*** since 2010"

R.I.P.  you filthy animal.
1099  Economy / Speculation / Re: MTGOX @ USD $365 What happen ? on: February 14, 2014, 03:26:39 AM
Stop being morons.

Seriously.

Gox price = fictitious and the exchange needs to die.

Good riddance.
1100  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: The Monarch 600 GH/s Power 350W Price $1950 on: February 13, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
I'd volunteer to provide escrow services for free for this transaction, OP.

Your move.

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