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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: March 26, 2019, 07:55:50 PM
Some people ask us about the design philosophy of PoC, here is a brief introduction:

Consensus entropy and PoC consensus mechanism


Basic idea: Use entropy concept from physics in block chain, thus, we introduce the concept of  consensus entropy.

1. The concept of consensus entropy
In a distributed system, by default, the reliability of every node  is unstable; maybe there are many false nodes (created by script nodes). Under such a situation, we can say the system is in chaos. In other words, "consensus entropy" is very high. The computation used in PoW of bitcoin is to eliminate false nodes; in the meantime, to punish false/dishonest nodes in order to ensure the consensus in the end. From physics point of view, those extra computing power from computer is the work of a high entropy distributed system. Thus, it reduces the entropy of the system in order to build consensus in the end. As a result, it can complete the basic function of block chain. 


2. Is it necessary to elimination of entropy endlessly?
PoW is currently the most reliable consensus mechanism (calculation). But, the short coming is obvious as well, because it needs to work constantly to maintain low entropy status unanimously. Thus, it wastes a lots of energy. It will generate 1.3 ton carbon dioxide and costs thousands dollar to produce one bitcoin. Is that really necessary?

The two main functions of PoW are 1) eliminating the false node, 2) punishing the false node.

2.1. Eliminating the false node:

In the every round of PoW calculation, it is contentious on every node in order to do the block chain mining. The false node does not have computing power. Therefore, it will be eliminated. In this process, all the real nodes will do a massive computation for the system and it will reduce the consensus entropy to reach the consensus in the end. But from the next block, all the nodes will start eliminating entropy all over again. Therefore, the huge resources are being wasted. We kind of know this is unnecessary, because the system is in low entropy status. The very next round consensus should start from the "low entropy" status, not to start from the very beginning, forgetting about its "low entropy" status. The short coming of PoW is the design flaw, without ability to maintain its own "low entropy" status. Thus, the whole system is to eliminate entropy endlessly.

2.2. Punish the false/dishonest node: Besides the punishment for computing power, there are some other punishment method such as using "token." So, it is not a must to punish false/dishonest node in PoW.

In summary, if we can design a system to maintain its low entropy after the previous elimination of entropy; in conjunction with other punishment measures, we can create a new consensus mechanism method without PoW.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: March 01, 2019, 01:00:13 AM
Are you using low frequency multicore architecture as part of your design to increase scalability and are these components part of the design of your router?
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Yes, this is what our AtomOS adapted. AtomOS uses HIPE to take advantage of multicore architecture.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: March 01, 2019, 12:58:57 AM
How many nodes are you aiming to distribute around the world for your network to be considered secure and stable? Approximately how much will this equipment cost?

1K nodes are enough.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 10, 2019, 06:05:09 AM
Beta test in progress

We are beta-testing our Deeper Connect devices!
Deeper Connect (the 2 images below) is a solution for all the internet security problems and an innovative way of sharing!




The distribution of Deeper Connect nodes that are under testing is illustrated in the following image.

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 07, 2019, 06:43:30 AM
Could you create a Medium article explaining your tunneling technologies (AtomOS) to the man on the street? I kind of understand that you have designed them to circumvent censorship and to ensure the high performance and scalability of the system. But I still havenít connected all the dots. I guess most people interested in privacy would like to know how they will be better than VP technologies which are always open to exploitation.

In short, unlike VPN vendors, Deeper doesn't provide service, all Deeper Connect users can use trident protocol of AtomOS to connect each other to make a free and secure network.

You can refer this article to get a brief view of Deeper:
https://medium.com/@deeper.network/deeper-connect-private-and-secure-internet-for-the-people-4fb9ccbab07c
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 07, 2019, 06:33:58 AM
Very interesting project. I hope this project will bring some real use cases for crypto tokens. I see that unlike most of the hyped-up projects in the days of ICO fever, you have a working product. The market has been so bad lately and there has been so much capital destruction. People have lost hope in ICOs and crypto in general. We need to reinvent the market and stop paying attention to the projects with rockstars that deliver nothing. Some of those projects are at the top 10 in market cap. We need to pay attention to real projects with an ethical and hardworking crew.

I agree. Product first is Deeper's style. If anyone who want to get a free or buy a  Deeper Connect, please join our telegram channel.
You will see how our product to provide a free and secure Internet connection to our users.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 07, 2019, 06:28:24 AM
Is this a mesh network project?

Yes, it will be. AtomOS 2.0 will introduce peer routing to create a mesh network.
AtomOS 1.x only provide end to end secure connection to customers.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 02, 2019, 12:03:04 AM
I am very excited about this project, but my main concern regarding this private Internet connection is the exit node. We know that exit nodes are always areas of vulnerability for privacy. Considering that some users will have to use hardware to keep your private network active, I am wondering to what extent this might be a risk for them. 
This is a very good question. We already have the solution to eliminate the risk for users.
In AtomOS, we do NAT for every connection, for the connections from other users, AtomOS will assign them a specified range source port such as ( 60000~65534). This can help user to clarify the bad traffic is from others instead of himself.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 21, 2018, 11:55:11 PM
I am applying to try out your equipment. Freedom of speech in our country is a very extravagant thing. When we talk about some political things on the Internet, you must beware of the surveillance of the secret police. It seems that DEEPER NETWORK will help me,if I can become a core user, then I will recommend your products to others around me.

Yes, DeeperConnect is the best solution for you. I hope you can join us together to make a better Internet happen.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 21, 2018, 11:40:20 PM
Sorry, couldn't find any team info on your site. Was just trying to check in on the team's background and capability to deliver based on previous experience. No dice with the WP too. Is there any other source or upcoming update?

the above question was ask and i see the admin takes time to answer every other question but not the above, knowing the team behind this project is very important and since it was not readily provided in your website which i can not understand why, with such innovative project it wont hurt to know the brains behind it Wink

We've put tons of effort into developing our software/hardware. We are excited about this project as it is the first blockchain project (as far as we know) that aims for real-world use case and massive adoption of the blockchain technology via hardware deployment. You can always reach us in our Telegram channel. Feel free to communicate and it does not matter if we stay anonymous or not.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 21, 2018, 08:38:39 AM
hi -

this team seems to aim high; as i understand it,  the device uses a blockchain to verify informations

not sure how it connects ...   mesh?

anyway i've tried a few times to give my info @telegram sticky, but my internet is slow and the google docs won't take my form, ... is there another way to contact? thanks

1, Deeper connect use block chain to do node discovery, node negotiation and micro payment
2, Deeper connect can constitute a next generation public chain : e^2 chain
3, Yes, Deeper Connect will connected together to be a mesh network.
4, If you want to participate in our core member recruitment, please PM me Smiley

Thanks!
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 21, 2018, 08:33:16 AM
I am very interested in this project. I would like to know more about PoC.

Please refer the white paper PoC part:
https://deeper.network/assets/pdf/whitepaper/Deeper-WP-EN-1130.pdf
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 19, 2018, 06:06:07 AM
Very good product. Can I try it?

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.

I joined the channel, strive to be one of 100 core users.

And how can I become one of the 100 core users?


We need you to fill a form first to make sure you are really interested in our project. You will know the details from channel later.

what's the form's url? I fill it.

We are recruiting Global Ambassadors & Core Users:

http://bit.ly/2EpTn69

Free devices and tons of tokens will be distributed to our core users. There is a chance to change your life!

We will go through the first phase of member selection, but more promotions are coming! Keep an eye on the channel!

14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 19, 2018, 06:03:44 AM
We are recruiting Global Ambassadors & Core Users:

http://bit.ly/2EpTn69

We will go through the first phase of member selection, but more promotions are coming! Keep an eye on the channel!

15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 19, 2018, 06:01:20 AM
Hi, Deeper:

Is it easy to use your device to start mining, privacy protection or even censorship circumvention?



Deeper Connect is plug and play device. It is very easy to use!
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 18, 2018, 05:43:12 PM
Very good product. Can I try it?

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.

I joined the channel, strive to be one of 100 core users.

And how can I become one of the 100 core users?


We need you to fill a form first to make sure you are really interested in our project. You will know the details from channel later.

We are working on the form, will let you know when it is done.
what's the form's url? I fill it.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 17, 2018, 06:25:01 AM
I love this network system and tension free SSS.

Thank you, please join our telegram channel to get more information about SSS.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 17, 2018, 06:24:05 AM
Very good product. Can I try it?

Please join our telegram channel:
Telegram:  https://t.me/DeeperNetwork

We are recruiting our first 100 core users.

I joined the channel, strive to be one of 100 core users.

And how can I become one of the 100 core users?


We need you to fill a form first to make sure you are really interested in our project. You will know the details from channel later.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 16, 2018, 01:26:56 AM
Sorry, couldn't find any team info on your site. Was just trying to check in on the team's background and capability to deliver based on previous experience. No dice with the WP too. Is there any other source or upcoming update?

Our product is ready to ship, we are recruiting the first 100 core users to test it. The first 100 core users can get free devices and tons of our tokens.
You can join our channel to see the update.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: December 15, 2018, 09:37:24 PM
has public testing for Atom Os for 100 core users ended or has reached its limit? interesting because some of your products will be released before ico starts and I'm excited about that.

No, please join us to get a powerful free device:
https://t.me/DeeperNetwork


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