I'll get the leftover tickets. Wow 360 between post and post that is kinda unconvenient, I will have a look at those copper memberships.
Let me know how much eth should I send you, I have eth and swap min amount doesn't let me get it into clam... Or btc, but I have faith you will buy clams with it and invest and degen it .

How are lif's supposed to stake when they are a token? Are you trying to say we are moving to our own chain and stop making eth so heavy?  

Edit: I'm thinking perhaps excluding those two partners from the thread name would be nicer, you cannot fit more and looks a bit strange to have two of all those partners up there.
Also, it is a bit annoying for newbies to not be able to send pm's to the team accounts.

The whole crypto market is down, bitcoin still has a decent price considering the instant swing it had to its ath so we can expect btc to stabilize and altcoins to start recovering and face bitcoin again.

Interesting project and very nice and steady going on.

Edit: I strongly recommend to try listing LIF on bleutrade, is a lovely exchange I follow since long while and really like.

What are they made of?

Any feedback?

They can use methods I dislike provided by enough services that dump the recieved coins on sight and recieves FIAT. Volatility ain't really an issue, if you look at charts price has an ever going upward trend even if it has it's stays and downs, think of it's limited supply, price is bound to go higher and higher, which could be a problem for fees if we don't add decimals, with price at 20k I started having the feeling the need of a 0 added .

One can try but it comes up to two general problems.
1- There is no consumer base right now. Adoption missing.
2- People is still very closed about it.

It really makes me boil when I hear the words "real money".

People don't see bitcoin's usefulness as we do then we need to make it usefull and attractive to their mortal point of view.

I believe it's funny people mention it, price went to nearly 20k and prices are still very high compared to ever.

Roger ver just went apeshit and craigh wright became crypto famous by bullshitting, the only positive thing I see about bch is that bitcoin is a bit easier to mine, interesting to see what a few whale bags can do.

Also, the fear about a hash bigger than bitcoin's current is there since always, fear used to be towards government's, now we have a bitcoin clone attempting to steal it's hashpower. The probability of someone investing so much money into hashpower to just disrupt the network for a certain amount of time is small since working for the network would probably make them more profits at long term, I think the nodes can reject a miner by mac or ip? might be wrong I has no idea about it.

So when we will have our first not money driven terrorists? .

Thing is that using a sidechain would request to pay a fee on the bitcoin chain aswell and I dont think it's fair to pay for each single movement, which drives me to believe that it's not efficient to use the same chain for information/data storage, sort and inmutability needed and provided by bitcoin as the chain used by bitcoin which is mostly economic data storage.

For example, a project I liked from it's beginning is bitcrystals, you combine gaming and crypto economy in one thing, but I don't see a single chain (Bitcoin's) to host all that information as viable in long term future. This has been proven by ethereum.
Year's ago I read a post in this forum about researching better compression rates for everything stored on a blockchain but I don't think anything has come up.

I kinda forgot how sidechains work tho.

Another of Bitcoin probable increasing problem will be fees for transactions, I see bitcoin as a coin that will be used mostly by giant's to move big amounts of money and that day by day consumers will have a different option, not sure if lightning was supposed to help with that.
I guess that if bitcoin ever is adopted users will need to adopt a kind of financial identity to link with their wallets. For legal purposes hehe.

There must be a reasonable way to promote it's use.

ICO's are mostly scammy business, the creators tend to buy in their own so the mount of coin and investors seems larger, people keeps falling for them and chance of getting out with profit are low. One should focus on checking that code is being done and that it has a real purpose that cannot be easily and with better efficiency recreated by the ETH smart contracts.
As long as you preach your profit's with ICO's people will feel curious, on the other hand we cannot ignore serious business initial crowdfund just because 98% of the new shitcoins are made to make money off their community.