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2941  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 06:34:01 PM
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Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation

That would be disaster...

Investomer: Verisilicon, does Black Arrow have a contract with you all?
Verisilicon 1: Hey, Mack, is this email guy asking about their first order or subsequent orders?
Verisilicon 2: Just reply with a yes.
2942  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 06:26:29 PM
MENSA status, DZ, really put a lot of thought into forming his co-op, considering he espouses how he's doing all that shit for free.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_cooperative#Why_farmers_form_cooperatives

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Cooperatives as a form of business organization are distinct from the more common investor-owned firms (IOFs).[1][4] Both are organized as corporations, but IOFs pursue profit maximization objectives, whereas cooperatives strive to maximize the benefits they generate for their members (which usually involves zero-profit operation).

Ergo, IOFs = I Often Forget shit! Hell, if you drop the hyphen, it's not that big a leap to envision the vetted foxes guarding the chicken coop.
2943  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 06:21:15 PM
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"Romania also legalized the smoking of a certain plant" That is great, if that is true, maybe the best news in this thread!

Last week Romania became the 10th European Union nation to legalize medical marijuana. The country’s drug law was amended to allow certain cannabis derivatives to be used for specific afflictions, such as epilepsy and multiple sclerosis, along with augmenting a bitcoin mining operation.
2944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ebay ceo slips up and spills the beans on: February 19, 2014, 06:17:57 PM
ebay CEO spills the beans *by mistake* thak paypal will soon have a digital wallet that can hold multiple currencies!

THIS IS HUGE!!!!!!

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ebay-paypal-most-successful-together-donahoe-says-M8oKQ3F5Q3SBdIrbWSnzcw.html

starts talking about bitcoin just after 3 mins..

I watched the video and he didn't say anything of the sort.

He did but he could mean fiat which PayPal already does, I have like 20 currencies

Is that you, Vern?  Grin
2945  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
You guys wanna see another amazing graph?: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijbtPQ

Besides the wallet in question having received 10,981.801666 BTC to date, DZ's co-op has been paid 1 BTC no less than three times stemming from it. So much for the I've-been-doing-shit-for-free guy. I predict that soon DZ's co-op will be referred to as DZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzMCnot-square.
2946  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 04:35:22 PM
So they are mining at around 15TH/s as we speak. What are they using to mine? Bitfurries? And why isn't that mining power being allocated to their customers?

wouldn't surprise me at all.   I asked early on in this debacle if they were mining for themselves and got the BA cricket choir response.   they manufacture mining equipment, so it seems pretty logical that there's something hashing away.

if it is true and this this is going straight into their pockets while their customers are sinking fast I wouldn't be shocked one bit.  based on their actions to date I have little little doubt that they do not give a damn about their customers.


they're still showing bitfuries as in stock:  https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/40ghash-16x-bitfury-hashing-board.html


see this topic on their forum, started Jan 17, where a customer is asking why his delivery date has been changed to May:

http://ecointalk.net/topic/422-my-order-delivery-date-has-changed-to-may-why/


BA didn't actually announce this delay until when, the 29th I think, when they sent out that official e-mail.  when did they really know there was going to be a delay, I have to wonder.  They were still booking orders right through that Jan 29 date, as far as I know, without letting prospective customers know of any potential issues whatsoever, which, unless that thread above was just some odd coincidence, they absolutely knew about while still feeding their customers and prospective customers the BS song and dance.

we're on track, or a little ahead, last I heard.  blah, blah, blah.  we're still taking orders for batch 2.  blah, blah, blah.  look, here's a new rendering.  blah, blah, blah.  we're in this for the long term.  blah, blah, blah.    we care about our customers.  blah, blah, blah.   


and to this day still no clear statement on refunds.  blah, blah, blech.

But, give credit where credit is due, for they have recognizing a troll when they see one down to a science, deleting every one of my posts in this thread, albeit they're a tad behind, probably waiting till their last Bucharestica is the Bestica hookah session wears off. (full disclosure: while seeking humor for the latter part of that sentence, I just learnt that Romania also legalized the smoking of a certain plant, whereupon Matt, when he reads this, will go, "Wait, what! Hehehe!")
2947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can somebody explain what's happening here?: 1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijb on: February 19, 2014, 09:33:48 AM
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I had a bunch of those too...

They disappear in time... they are fake transactions that eventually get rejected by the network...

I assume, they are either trying to flood the network with crap transactions to slow it down...
That, or they are attempting to exploit another site that had the same issue as silk-road 2 and MtGox just had...

They will never confirm.

They look like they're confirmed to me, ISAWHIM.
2948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can somebody explain what's happening here?: 1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijb on: February 19, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
https://blockchain.info/address/1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijbtPQ

For some reason I smell, what I'll Dub, a Rat.

~TMIBTCITW

Phinnaeus, can you elaborate more? Smiley

I have reason to believe it's Black Arrow's wallet having had funds come from DZ MC. I'm still researching it.

https://blockchain.info/tx/24f77d63b5a5233a1a20861a29ba26e497d7b8936041396922e547de1d906701
2949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Can somebody explain what's happening here?: 1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijb on: February 19, 2014, 09:19:03 AM
https://blockchain.info/address/1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijbtPQ

For some reason I smell, what I'll Dub, a Rat.

~TMIBTCITW
2950  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 09:09:32 AM
I wish I could move 1 BTC at a time for the past 5 days: https://blockchain.info/address/1HC3dc4DubRat1P39YBBkwVRbph3ijbtPQ
2951  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 08:34:54 AM
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Welcome back Phin   Grin Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3MFBzMH2o  Grin
2952  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
I don't know whether to post this, sorry if it seems rude, but I feel I must say it as a potential customer...

Why can't you use your talents to develop something using the ASIC platform? I for one am waiting for the dust to settle and will be looking to buy into ASIC technology once there are units on warehouse shelves. I am not particularly interested in massive profits, just a little profit plus the satisfaction of mining for the resilience of the network. I am under the impression that the Avalon's custom ASIC chips are/will be available in bulk to people such as yourselves, and the developers specifically want this technology to be distributed.

The issue of electricity cost vs. mining revenue will be making new investment into FPGAs too risky for me, sorry Sad

We are looking into developing an ASIC but we won't sell them until we have a working product.

Power consumption is not such a big issue for FPGA. They use only a little bit more than ASIC.


As many times as I've read similar, Roger Ver should erect a billboard depicting such verbiage.

You guys want to see an amazing graph?: https://blockchain.info/charts/received-per-day?address=1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7

It stems from one of Black Arrow's wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7 They better hope that that's not their only wallet, otherwise they're in a heap of trouble.

This is how I found it: http://web.archive.org/web/20130428000608/http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/lancelot.html

First deposit was on Oct. 19, 2012, and currently has $78,472.50 USD in it for anybody seeking a refund from Black Arrow. And, if that's not enough, you'll soon learn once you visit the address above that Black Arrow is garnering 5 BTC every two days via mining income while its investomers are in a holding pattern till May. Doing some quick math, that'll be 5 X 30 X 600 = ~$90,000 USD he'll receive during the next 60 days, while his investomers will only be earning (more quick math, so please check my work) 0 X 0 X 600 X (# of rigs ordered) = 0 during the same timeframe.

Now, I'm no MENSA dude, but to me the investomer's ROI is not looking too good at this penning, while Black Arrow is swimming in bitcoins, all the while checking his margins to see if he could honor any refunds. Perhaps, it's just some Romanian thing, and I'm simply a fuckin' idiot wasting my life away on this here laptop living in my dead mother's van down by the up-the-creek-sans-a-paddle.

~TMIBTCITW
2953  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 07:26:32 AM
^^^Good news, Keith: http://my-dog-jetta.blogspot.com/2014/01/black-arrow-prospero-x-3-delay.html

Funds are currently available for you to receive your full refund sans waiting a month... or longer.

Glad I could help... FOR FUCKIN' FREE, see there DZ?
2954  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
I don't know whether to post this, sorry if it seems rude, but I feel I must say it as a potential customer...

Why can't you use your talents to develop something using the ASIC platform? I for one am waiting for the dust to settle and will be looking to buy into ASIC technology once there are units on warehouse shelves. I am not particularly interested in massive profits, just a little profit plus the satisfaction of mining for the resilience of the network. I am under the impression that the Avalon's custom ASIC chips are/will be available in bulk to people such as yourselves, and the developers specifically want this technology to be distributed.

The issue of electricity cost vs. mining revenue will be making new investment into FPGAs too risky for me, sorry Sad

We are looking into developing an ASIC but we won't sell them until we have a working product.

Power consumption is not such a big issue for FPGA. They use only a little bit more than ASIC.


As many times as I've read similar, Roger Ver should erect a billboard depicting such verbiage.

You guys want to see an amazing graph?: https://blockchain.info/charts/received-per-day?address=1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7

It stems from one of Black Arrow's wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7 They better hope that that's not their only wallet, otherwise they're in a heap of trouble.

This is how I found it: http://web.archive.org/web/20130428000608/http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/lancelot.html

First deposit was on Oct. 19, 2012, and currently has $78,472.50 USD in it for anybody seeking a refund from Black Arrow. And, if that's not enough, you'll soon learn once you visit the address above that Black Arrow is garnering 5 BTC every two days via mining income while its investomers are in a holding pattern till May. Doing some quick math, that'll be 5 X 30 X 600 = ~$90,000 USD he'll receive during the next 60 days, while his investomers will only be earning (more quick math, so please check my work) 0 X 0 X 600 X (# of rigs ordered) = 0 during the same timeframe.

Now, I'm no MENSA dude, but to me the investomer's ROI is not looking too good at this penning, while Black Arrow is swimming in bitcoins, all the while checking his margins to see if he could honor any refunds. Perhaps, it's just some Romanian thing, and I'm simply a fuckin' idiot wasting my life away on this here laptop living in my dead mother's van down by the up-the-creek-sans-a-paddle.

~TMIBTCITW
2955  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 06:34:14 AM
This really reminds me of the Kid who is a fry cook at McDonalds and on his Resume puts HEAD CHEF

I have a nephew like that. His last job was dishwasher, but bragged about how the chef asked him for advice. Two weeks later when he got his first check, he smoked it up, then quit, just like he did with every single job he's ever had for the past six years. Once, he held onto a job for almost two months, but I later learnt it was only because one of his fellow co-workers supplied him, along with them both ripping off the joint. The son of a bitch even once ripped off his own mother, taking a hundred dollars outta her purse, then denied it, although he was the only other person in the other room at the time.

Does that mean the bitch deserved it?  Roll Eyes

Just kidding.

I'll accept your first post as humor and won't take offense, bud.
2956  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: February 19, 2014, 04:44:23 AM
I suspect the DZMC people are good at what they do, however customer service and public relations is not what they do.
clearly... when you push back with questions, the thread becomes ghost town again...
To one of your other posts, I don't see where I am coming off as defensive I simply answered you the best I could by quoting a post that was made 2 days earlier that quoted how to request and when you could expect the refund to appear.

We all have day jobs which prevents us from being heavily active on the forums during the day, I don't believe anyone is expecting an answer to a question right as its posted. You continue to ask the same question and every time receive the same answer refunds can take up to 1.5 weeks.

We being DZ, Tom, Matt... Okay, maybe not Matt. Come to think of it, DEFINITELY NOT MATT. Overseeing his Colorado farm with his partner and them six now qualified new employees is Matt's full time job, otherwise he wouldn't have employees, as he has referred them six as.

And to think that this is only R17. I have a funny feeling that there ain't going be too many more R's in the making, in spite of this DZMC enterprise being supported by an Oil Tycoon and that Sandwich Podcast Guy.
2957  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: February 19, 2014, 03:48:15 AM

Not yet, dude, but I'm giving it all I got, but these stupid women keep interrupting my play. To date, I don't have this issue in the goat realm.

2958  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SAD NEWS Mikhail Sindeyev (thecoder) has Died Suddenly on: February 18, 2014, 11:46:32 PM
I wish I had the pleasure of knowing Mikhail, for he seems to have been an alright guy.
2959  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 18, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
This really reminds me of the Kid who is a fry cook at McDonalds and on his Resume puts HEAD CHEF

I have a nephew like that. His last job was dishwasher, but bragged about how the chef asked him for advice. Two weeks later when he got his first check, he smoked it up, then quit, just like he did with every single job he's ever had for the past six years. Once, he held onto a job for almost two months, but I later learnt it was only because one of his fellow co-workers supplied him, along with them both ripping off the joint. The son of a bitch even once ripped off his own mother, taking a hundred dollars outta her purse, then denied it, although he was the only other person in the other room at the time.
2960  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 18, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
I would also like an update on where we are at with hiring that dedicated PR person?  Almost every question I have asked has been ignored in the last couple of weeks, so I pose the refund question again...

Nostradamus (ya really!) has predicted that the reply (if there ever is one) is one of the following:

a) The PR guy has taken sick and/or declined the job offer
b) The PR guy is away celebrating the Schamayan New Year
c) The PR guy has been hired and is in training, which will take a few daeeks (great stalling option)
d) The PR guy is actually a PR girl

Please note that the option that a PR person has or will not be hired is not available.



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