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2941  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 08:34:54 AM
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2942  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 19, 2014, 07:51:38 AM
I don't know whether to post this, sorry if it seems rude, but I feel I must say it as a potential customer...

Why can't you use your talents to develop something using the ASIC platform? I for one am waiting for the dust to settle and will be looking to buy into ASIC technology once there are units on warehouse shelves. I am not particularly interested in massive profits, just a little profit plus the satisfaction of mining for the resilience of the network. I am under the impression that the Avalon's custom ASIC chips are/will be available in bulk to people such as yourselves, and the developers specifically want this technology to be distributed.

The issue of electricity cost vs. mining revenue will be making new investment into FPGAs too risky for me, sorry Sad

We are looking into developing an ASIC but we won't sell them until we have a working product.

Power consumption is not such a big issue for FPGA. They use only a little bit more than ASIC.


As many times as I've read similar, Roger Ver should erect a billboard depicting such verbiage.

You guys want to see an amazing graph?: https://blockchain.info/charts/received-per-day?address=1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7

It stems from one of Black Arrow's wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7 They better hope that that's not their only wallet, otherwise they're in a heap of trouble.

This is how I found it: http://web.archive.org/web/20130428000608/http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/lancelot.html

First deposit was on Oct. 19, 2012, and currently has $78,472.50 USD in it for anybody seeking a refund from Black Arrow. And, if that's not enough, you'll soon learn once you visit the address above that Black Arrow is garnering 5 BTC every two days via mining income while its investomers are in a holding pattern till May. Doing some quick math, that'll be 5 X 30 X 600 = ~$90,000 USD he'll receive during the next 60 days, while his investomers will only be earning (more quick math, so please check my work) 0 X 0 X 600 X (# of rigs ordered) = 0 during the same timeframe.

Now, I'm no MENSA dude, but to me the investomer's ROI is not looking too good at this penning, while Black Arrow is swimming in bitcoins, all the while checking his margins to see if he could honor any refunds. Perhaps, it's just some Romanian thing, and I'm simply a fuckin' idiot wasting my life away on this here laptop living in my dead mother's van down by the up-the-creek-sans-a-paddle.

~TMIBTCITW
2943  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 07:26:32 AM
^^^Good news, Keith: http://my-dog-jetta.blogspot.com/2014/01/black-arrow-prospero-x-3-delay.html

Funds are currently available for you to receive your full refund sans waiting a month... or longer.

Glad I could help... FOR FUCKIN' FREE, see there DZ?
2944  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
I don't know whether to post this, sorry if it seems rude, but I feel I must say it as a potential customer...

Why can't you use your talents to develop something using the ASIC platform? I for one am waiting for the dust to settle and will be looking to buy into ASIC technology once there are units on warehouse shelves. I am not particularly interested in massive profits, just a little profit plus the satisfaction of mining for the resilience of the network. I am under the impression that the Avalon's custom ASIC chips are/will be available in bulk to people such as yourselves, and the developers specifically want this technology to be distributed.

The issue of electricity cost vs. mining revenue will be making new investment into FPGAs too risky for me, sorry Sad

We are looking into developing an ASIC but we won't sell them until we have a working product.

Power consumption is not such a big issue for FPGA. They use only a little bit more than ASIC.


As many times as I've read similar, Roger Ver should erect a billboard depicting such verbiage.

You guys want to see an amazing graph?: https://blockchain.info/charts/received-per-day?address=1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7

It stems from one of Black Arrow's wallet address: https://blockchain.info/address/1JTNXgcVCMXhQrLEE9XW71fQjJN1uQpWf7 They better hope that that's not their only wallet, otherwise they're in a heap of trouble.

This is how I found it: http://web.archive.org/web/20130428000608/http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/lancelot.html

First deposit was on Oct. 19, 2012, and currently has $78,472.50 USD in it for anybody seeking a refund from Black Arrow. And, if that's not enough, you'll soon learn once you visit the address above that Black Arrow is garnering 5 BTC every two days via mining income while its investomers are in a holding pattern till May. Doing some quick math, that'll be 5 X 30 X 600 = ~$90,000 USD he'll receive during the next 60 days, while his investomers will only be earning (more quick math, so please check my work) 0 X 0 X 600 X (# of rigs ordered) = 0 during the same timeframe.

Now, I'm no MENSA dude, but to me the investomer's ROI is not looking too good at this penning, while Black Arrow is swimming in bitcoins, all the while checking his margins to see if he could honor any refunds. Perhaps, it's just some Romanian thing, and I'm simply a fuckin' idiot wasting my life away on this here laptop living in my dead mother's van down by the up-the-creek-sans-a-paddle.

~TMIBTCITW
2945  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 19, 2014, 06:34:14 AM
This really reminds me of the Kid who is a fry cook at McDonalds and on his Resume puts HEAD CHEF

I have a nephew like that. His last job was dishwasher, but bragged about how the chef asked him for advice. Two weeks later when he got his first check, he smoked it up, then quit, just like he did with every single job he's ever had for the past six years. Once, he held onto a job for almost two months, but I later learnt it was only because one of his fellow co-workers supplied him, along with them both ripping off the joint. The son of a bitch even once ripped off his own mother, taking a hundred dollars outta her purse, then denied it, although he was the only other person in the other room at the time.

Does that mean the bitch deserved it?  Roll Eyes

Just kidding.

I'll accept your first post as humor and won't take offense, bud.
2946  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS on: February 19, 2014, 04:44:23 AM
I suspect the DZMC people are good at what they do, however customer service and public relations is not what they do.
clearly... when you push back with questions, the thread becomes ghost town again...
To one of your other posts, I don't see where I am coming off as defensive I simply answered you the best I could by quoting a post that was made 2 days earlier that quoted how to request and when you could expect the refund to appear.

We all have day jobs which prevents us from being heavily active on the forums during the day, I don't believe anyone is expecting an answer to a question right as its posted. You continue to ask the same question and every time receive the same answer refunds can take up to 1.5 weeks.

We being DZ, Tom, Matt... Okay, maybe not Matt. Come to think of it, DEFINITELY NOT MATT. Overseeing his Colorado farm with his partner and them six now qualified new employees is Matt's full time job, otherwise he wouldn't have employees, as he has referred them six as.

And to think that this is only R17. I have a funny feeling that there ain't going be too many more R's in the making, in spite of this DZMC enterprise being supported by an Oil Tycoon and that Sandwich Podcast Guy.
2947  Other / Off-topic / Re: Totally Off-Topic! on: February 19, 2014, 03:48:15 AM

Not yet, dude, but I'm giving it all I got, but these stupid women keep interrupting my play. To date, I don't have this issue in the goat realm.

2948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SAD NEWS Mikhail Sindeyev (thecoder) has Died Suddenly on: February 18, 2014, 11:46:32 PM
I wish I had the pleasure of knowing Mikhail, for he seems to have been an alright guy.
2949  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 18, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
This really reminds me of the Kid who is a fry cook at McDonalds and on his Resume puts HEAD CHEF

I have a nephew like that. His last job was dishwasher, but bragged about how the chef asked him for advice. Two weeks later when he got his first check, he smoked it up, then quit, just like he did with every single job he's ever had for the past six years. Once, he held onto a job for almost two months, but I later learnt it was only because one of his fellow co-workers supplied him, along with them both ripping off the joint. The son of a bitch even once ripped off his own mother, taking a hundred dollars outta her purse, then denied it, although he was the only other person in the other room at the time.
2950  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 18, 2014, 11:21:55 PM
I would also like an update on where we are at with hiring that dedicated PR person?  Almost every question I have asked has been ignored in the last couple of weeks, so I pose the refund question again...

Nostradamus (ya really!) has predicted that the reply (if there ever is one) is one of the following:

a) The PR guy has taken sick and/or declined the job offer
b) The PR guy is away celebrating the Schamayan New Year
c) The PR guy has been hired and is in training, which will take a few daeeks (great stalling option)
d) The PR guy is actually a PR girl

Please note that the option that a PR person has or will not be hired is not available.



"P and R, I have an important balancing-act assignment for you both."
2951  Other / Meta / Re: Questions to theymos about the $1,000,000 forum software project on: February 18, 2014, 11:06:23 PM
A plug and play open source forum in Node.js might actually be worth $1 million dollars. Most of the widely used forums today are built in PHP so this could be just as big for Node.js as it is for the forum. Additionally, if this code is open source and integrates with BTC, it has wider applications.

*Puts on his tinfoil hat*

Since Augusto and Goat aren't directly saying it, I'll just be blunt so folks know why there is some flak about spending the money...

Federal (specifically DoD, but others as well) projects often come with an NDA for the developers to not share government work in their portfolios. Whenever I hear someone talk about NDAs, I assume government work. Given that this is going to be an open source forum that has some form of BTC and Trust integration, it would likely be highly valuable to various entities within Darknets as well. If designed intentionally with exploits in the open source version that are patched in the live version, an aspiring three-letter agency could use the success of a Node.js forum to promote adoption in some of these remoter areas of the web. Then, at a specified integration-point, they could exploit said software causing turmoil for hapless Darknet administrators.

*Takes tinfoil hat off*

Regardless of whoever is designing this software, security should be the primary focus or else you're going to get some really bad (and IMHO, quite-deserved) flak. I'd highly recommend keeping the existing security bounties and possibly even integrating or accounting for them during development of the project.

I feel the same about Node as well and I spent a long time a little over 2 years ago getting into Node and had great success with the technology in many situations. I'd like to add that I've never done NDA government work and security is very high priority in what we're doing.

Oh yeah... I'm not John K and I haven't been given access to the database yet but will need it very soon. We will follow standard ethics for private data and not transmit information to the public. This will indeed be the highest of priorities.

AH HA! Caught you! You forgot the period after the K, thus you could still be John K..  Grin

Seriously, thanks for taking the time in addressing my concern. BTW, get yourself a bigger pad, for I've seen bedrooms larger than where you live.

Later, bud.

~Bruno Kucinskas
2952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Petition To Remove Mark Karpeles From The Bitcoin Foundation Board on: February 18, 2014, 07:54:45 PM
I got late to the party, ergo I didn't sign it, but want to be on record that I sure the hell would have.

~Bruno Kucinskas
2953  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 18, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
I decided to test market opinion of BA and see how the market currently views the price and image of BA by listing one of my units for sell in the good section.  I have very good rep and believe that anyone would have full confidence that I would hold up my end of a deal, so any offers would be considered solely market view of BA.  After more than 24 hours I have not had a single offer or inquiry on my offer.  I even included the compensation package as part of the deal, and still no one seems to want it.  I did not put a price up, but instead asked for offers for my device.  So what does this tell us?  Well I will let everyone form their own opinion, but I have come up with 2 options...
1) There is no market for the BA device, which is sad because we are still over 2 months away from it being launched or,
2) No one has faith that BA will deliver.
In either case I would say the outcome is not good, so I reiterate my question, how are refunds going to be handled?

I don't read the Goods section, but what are you selling?  If it's an X-1, and you can get Black Arrow to transfer it to me, then I would be interested.  I can't afford an X-3 right now though.

Its actually an X-3, but I have an X-1, time to find out what its worth.  Make me an offer on it...

I imagine I could offer you the amount that you paid in BTC for it originally.  If you bought it in November, I imagine it would have been about 3.5 bitcoins.  Of course I don't know when you bought it.  Do you think that's a fair price?

Don't forget, there's a 0% quadruple-vetted reseller fee that I'm entitled to due to bringing you two together.
2954  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black Arrow is most likely a scam operation on: February 18, 2014, 06:08:53 PM
Phinnaeus Gage, you said someone visited the Chinese plant. Who? Can you show me the thread or proof?

Here it is, bud. BTW, bobsag3 is Matt Carson.

Updates straight from bobsag3 in Hong Kong visiting Black Arrow:

Can you say miner pr0n?   Cheesy

These are Prosperos - except prototypes running with Bitfury instead of Minion chips: Bitfury boards:

http://i.imgur.com/PZsSdoo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/X69NCBP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fw5qBvl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pSkWGPL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dO4kzm8.jpg

FPGA simulating the Minion ASIC hashing away: http://i.imgur.com/2pq0Fz7.jpg

Full album here: http://goo.gl/s9U6IX



So nothing of the 28nm tech other than a FPGA simulator?

What else would you expect? Its pretty public that the chip is still in development, and that they wont have the chips until Jan/Feb.

Wishful thinking on my part then Smiley Thanks for the pics
2955  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: February 18, 2014, 05:39:05 PM
Ok, we seem to be getting away from BA and the topic of this thread a bit.  We should be receiving an update in the next day or two about what has happened in the last week.  I would also like an update on where we are at with hiring that dedicated PR person?  Almost every question I have asked has been ignored in the last couple of weeks, so I pose the refund question again...

BA has stated that they will not give out refunds to those who ask for them, instead they will pool everyone who wants one and see if they can cover it with available funds.  When is the cutoff deadline to decide if we can be considered for a refund?  How are you going to handle the fact that since your affiliate (aka MinerSource) is incorporated under U.S. law, is required to give refunds if asked?  Minersource has stated (only in PM's) that they will refund out of their overhead, but I doubt that will be enough for everyone seeking a refund.  Will this be addressed at all?

I decided to test market opinion of BA and see how the market currently views the price and image of BA by listing one of my units for sell in the good section.  I have very good rep and believe that anyone would have full confidence that I would hold up my end of a deal, so any offers would be considered solely market view of BA.  After more than 24 hours I have not had a single offer or inquiry on my offer.  I even included the compensation package as part of the deal, and still no one seems to want it.  I did not put a price up, but instead asked for offers for my device.  So what does this tell us?  Well I will let everyone form their own opinion, but I have come up with 2 options...
1) There is no market for the BA device, which is sad because we are still over 2 months away from it being launched or,
2) No one has faith that BA will deliver.
In either case I would say the outcome is not good, so I reiterate my question, how are refunds going to be handled?

I see you're having trouble test selling your Bad Ass BA. Perhaps, I could be of assistance.

You see, one does not merely test the market conditions of a BA product on their own accord. One MUST use the services of a reseller. Luckily, I, being the first ever quadruple-vetted Bitcoiner in the world, would more than happily act as the official reseller of any BA products purchased through a reseller. And do it for free, to boot, albeit I may complain about working for free periodically, but that's what a guy who's financially stable should do.

Meanwhile, down at the farm, my side venture, the seedlings are all looking beautiful. For those who've GB into my other side venture, I'm happy to state that that 24/7/365/60/-pie operation is well maintain by the six seasoned pros I've hire last year in The Show Me State and moved them to The Grow Me State.
2956  Other / Off-topic / Re: Back in time 1980 on: February 18, 2014, 10:09:37 AM

Eh ... I think there are some BTC logos founded @ Egipt inside of piramids Tongue


I smell conspiracy theories Cheesy can you prove what are you saying ? or you just assume that ? cuz i would rly like to know Cheesy

it is true Smiley look!


Smiley
We can cleary see in the line where BTC is visible, from left we see a bird, symbol of fast transfer - from man to another man.
Below the bird we indeed see an ancient symbol of globe, global - worldwide. Smiley

Then we see symbols "knife" "water" "user" - that we can see a user sending bitcoins ( he send them to a bird ), symbol of knife means "sha256", symbol of security.

After those we see a Bitcoin logo - we know it and after logo we see miners at work and other unknown yet symbols. Smiley

Ancient people knew whats comming.
Probably! Just probably, inside of a piramid somewhere deep we will find a private key from Ra wallet.
Tongue


Forget Egipt.

If they would create BTC in 80's I just guess that world now would be something much better.

This is totally sacrilegious! No other symbols should be juxtaposed with any Bitcoin logo.
2957  Other / Off-topic / Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners. on: February 18, 2014, 10:04:58 AM
I just thought of great title for a thread. What do you all think? I did good, eh?

Please stay on topic, otherwise...

2958  Other / Off-topic / Re: the 'What was the last thing you put in your mouth?' game on: February 18, 2014, 09:57:35 AM
pizza

You took my answer if I answered a few hours ago. Now, I'd have to go with a tight pussy, unless it was coffee. Upon further review after licking my lips, it definitely was coffee... from a mustache cup, hence the confusion.
2959  Other / Off-topic / Re: Have you guys seen these crazy climbers? on: February 18, 2014, 09:50:49 AM
I know of a man in Vegas that's not afraid of anything unless it has eight legs and comes within 20 feet of feet, whereupon his neck cramps up and he starts to shake all over.

Myself, watching people walk on that glass thingy at the Grand Canyon on YouTube freaks me out, but actually walking on it doesn't. Likewise, building and climbing a ten-section scaffold doesn't bothering me, but watching somebody do it on a screen freaks my ass out.
2960  Other / Off-topic / Re: i used to own these domains on: February 18, 2014, 09:44:20 AM
I think they worth 10$ each.

...per year. FTFY!
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