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5381  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 15, 2013, 03:47:00 AM
Joshua you are a sad sock puppet. What you don't realize is Sonny is setting you up for such a monumental fall. Your lack of intelligence makes you such an easy target. Your arrogance and condescension will be the end of you. I hope your mother is proud of the dirtbag she raised. What goes around comes around. Don't drop the soap.

BTW
Will you still make your September deadline?
Why are you intent on violating FTC regulations with your refund policy?
Are you shipping 400 units per day?


Yep! Joshua fell for the oldest confidence trick in the book. Sadly Luckily, he'll fail to heed your advice.

5382  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 15, 2013, 03:38:01 AM
Meanwhile, Josh goes to put in a bid for more advertising on these forums.

Don't go spending money until everyone gets a refund, Inaba.

Actually, they need new customers to pay for the refunds.

(new customers to PAY for the refunds)3
5383  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC just posted pics of their case, PCB samples coming next week \o/ on: August 14, 2013, 11:50:07 PM
those cases will not survive shipment.

wtf is this lol.

it is ugly, not durable, looking cheap and disgusting.

terrible design.

it is such a shame...

LOL,

go buy a BFL product. Decent Design but you'll never see it.

I don't thing any sane person cares what the case looks like as long as the device hashes. I'd prefer mine to look like a trashcan, no one would ever steal it!

Another option is Avalon: excellent design, but held up in customs.

Once in hand, host them at Zhou Tong's data center until the relic collect take them.

What coins you do gain mining, store them at Mt Gox where you can retrieve them 24/7, albeit which 24/7 is anybody's guess.
5384  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucks us over again on: August 14, 2013, 11:38:42 PM
quote:

"Looking at the dates of their "savings account" http://blockchain.info/address/16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc  it does look like BFL pre-mining mini rigs.  Nothing new here.  Avalon has been doing this since January.

Or someone broke sha256, mined 34 million and retired."

http://blockchain.info/address/16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226803.msg2929695#msg2929695
Firstly,
I'll sell you every bitcoin I have for $1000 each ... as you are saying they are worth there ...
Secondly,
Where does it say that random address is BFL?
Thirdly,
If it was BFL, how is transferring BTC like 1000, 5000 or 7000 pre-mining?

Lulz, again, feel free to provide proof, but making it up, as you are doing, just makes it seem like you're a scam ...

With all due respect, Kano, I'll give it a shot.

Start here, on April 6, 2013, shortly after the delivery of the Luke Unit: http://blockchain.info/tx/dcdb24399d7f93c1ac265154d7256ac4a212b3df5cf3c833d266ce4117678dc9

No Inputs (Newly Generated Coins) --->  1BxD2VLE95n7ZeVJSy3uoiJ5WdR72jWj5f

Quote
Total Received   3,989.58724885 BTC   

Final Balance   984.12563031 BTC

The majority of the coins end up here: 16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc

Ergo, BFL is mining for themselves.
Well I guess I jumped the gun there ... when people say something is 10x it's correct value to trump up evidence, I'll not bother taking much heed of their following rhetoric.

So looking at the mining there - using somewhat rough estimates:
e.g. 6-Apr to 24-Apr it's 11 blocks in 19 days

Difficulty at the middle of that (16-Apr) was 7,673,000
So to get 11/19 blocks a day at that difficulty:

11/19 * 7673000 * 2^32 / (60 * 60 * 24) = 220GH/s ... or 3 avalons ... not a lot ...

What else I was trying to imply is that such was done sans a pool. My assessment may need correcting.

Hope the weather's been fine in Oz lately, Kano.
5385  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 09:12:53 PM
I don't understand why you people constantly bash this company.  Cancel the order, get a refund if you don't like it.  At least you can do that.  
Is that right?  That's really good news for a lot of people. 

Would that it were true, a lot of the posts, even in this thread, would not be made.

What method of payments cannot get refunds (not counting BTC and Bank Wires)?


Don't think for a minute we don't see what you're up to. You paid via BTC or BW (not Bruce Wagner) hoping that all others who paid via other means gets refunded, thus allowing you to move up the queue. Genius! Provided, of course, all this takes place prior to September 15, 2013, when Sonny Vleisides' probation is up due to being convicted as a felon for fleecing hundreds of millions of dollars from the elder with his 15 year running lottery scam.
5386  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any Legit ways to make money online? on: August 14, 2013, 09:05:58 PM
Danger! Incoming brainfart.

How about doing something that nobody has ever done before? Sounds obvious, but...

The following is what I just thought of literally a minute ago, having the entire idea pop in my head directly after reading the title of this thread.

ANIMAL PORN.

Dedicate a site to animals in sexual position, but not actually doing any sexual acts. Have people contribute photos of animals dressed in sexy outfits (not photoshopped). Can you image an elephant donning a physical tutu? A male boxer (dog) in an S&M leather outfit. A groundhog in a French maid outfit? A chipmunk in a string bikini?

You could have monthly contests for the top three, voted on via Bitcoin.

Here's the beauty part of the million dollar idea:

Quote
Congratulations!
animorn.com
is available. Snap it up before someone else does.

Once a year, hold a convention where owners show off their animals donning sexy clothing. The media would pick it up so damn quick, it'll make your Robin Sidel's head spin.



Just when I thought your posts can't get any more odd than they already are. Bravo! You've outdone yourself. lol

Cool! You're invited to the wedding.

5387  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why MP is your God. on: August 14, 2013, 09:03:32 PM
He has worn better. WORSHIP HIM.



::Cue the Joker theme song from Burton's Batman movie (Who Do You Love?)::

call Walter, the Observers landed!

He looks a bit like Boy George in that pic.  Grin



Note to self: Close door behind you when exiting closet.

5388  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 08:20:47 PM
Who's deploying then?  The network hashrate seems to be going up in lockstep with the amount of hashrate we are shipping out, give or take a slight deviation.
I know some forum members who probably aren't on the same page as you, and I'm sure there are plenty more of these out there.



I'm utterly amazed at the network hashrate BFL has shipped. One question: Those fans from BFL, are they hooked up in parallel or in series? Also, when you overclock BFL's fan, does that effect the clock buffers or the moffits(?)?
5389  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 08:15:35 PM
For those who missed it the first time!

I upgraded an order from a Jalapeno model to a Single SC model, back before the price raise. At the time, I SPECIFICALLY asked whether or not this would affect my place in line for shipping, and BFL told me in no unclear terms that it wouldn't. They lied to me. They are now shipping Jalas to people who ordered in LATE NOVEMBER, while my Single SC order dated late JULY is still far, far from being produced. They were on a contract with a LOT of people who depended on them to ship IN ORDER, which they completely failed to do. Now all the earliest, largest order-holders are watching their expected return dwindle to nothing, all the money they invested is going to people who ordered Jalas months after them.

In short: BFL is a scam. They are basically running an investment LOTTERY... BFL LIED TO ME AND THEY ROBBED ME. They do not respond when I write them asking for a refund. They banned me from their shoutbox.

This is what I see happening during September at BFL: at least one very large order-holder will ask for a refund on the order of six-figures, which they will deny. Then, they will be hit with a lawsuit from a high-powered law firm, and shut down during investigation by the FTC. Their executives will be arrested for investment fraud. The only people who will make any money are those who manage to get a device delivered by the end of August. All others will lose their entire investment in BFL.
5390  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 08:12:55 PM
BFL has bigger things to worry about than people who can do math adding up the shipped hash rate and realizing that BFL is not shipping much.

BFL got subpoenaed a few days ago by a regulator.
The Kansas AG is investigating BFL.
PayPal is pissed at BFL.
The FTC is investigating BFL.
The KC police department is investigating BFL.
Even Sonny's probation officer is sniffing around his latest investment scam.

Now that pre-orders are drying up, Josh is back trying to milk the last few dollars out of bitcointalk.

Josh is only here because his rainbow poodle is in heat and Sonny's dick is sore, thus he's seeking a fix, knowing damn well we'll stick it up his ass.
5391  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 08:08:50 PM
Who's deploying then?  The network hashrate seems to be going up in lockstep with the amount of hashrate we are shipping out, give or take a slight deviation.


It's like High School, show your work (math) or you get no credit.



Much like I told Flying Hellfish, once you become an adult, you will realize that reality (and the rest of the world) does not care about you.  Reality is what it is, you can accept it or deny it, but it will still be reality.  Nothing needs to be proven, no work needs to be shown.  You either accept reality or you deny it, the choice is up to you.  Reality doesn't care about you and what you believe, and just like I told Mr. Hellfish, neither do I. 

Speaking about being an adult, when are you going to answer the question posed by several of your adult peers?

What's the status of the FCC certification you're on record in stating would be available in two weeks back in November of last year?

Why do you continue to ignore this question each and every time it's been asked (over 100 times now), and not just by me, your favorite nemesis?
5392  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A plea to Yifu on: August 14, 2013, 07:55:29 PM
Maybe a direct approach will get his attention?  

i've always said the best approach would be for someone to go to NYC and find him.

If one of the filings with the FBI go through, it's not entirely implausible for them to flag him in the system.  Once once he steps into any US-controlled port of entry he could be pulled into a room for interrogation or possible apprehension.

I thought the same exact thing--for about two seconds.

the "i'm not dead thread."

Just got off the plane, expect lots of news tomorrow.


He just got off the plane! Care to guess at what airport? Clue: CNY not NYC.
5393  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucks us over again on: August 14, 2013, 05:22:02 PM
Obvious scam is obvious at this point.

Obviously, not obvious enough to those remaining in the race but at the end of the pack or, heaven forbid, about to enter the starting gate, when the lead horses are already crossing the finish line.


Blinders

Feel free to ignore this PSA if you're inspiring to become the next Beetle Bomb.
5394  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL on: August 14, 2013, 05:02:05 PM
Bitcoin is rapidly brightening as a target on New York state and Federal regulatory radars, and in the mainstream business media. (New York Times article again this morning, I believe).  

Given that arc, if I were BFL, I'd worry that the Kansas AG might have higher political aspirations, and realizes that coming down on BFL for the amply-alleged abuses might make good press for him.  Put him right there on the front page of the Times along with the big guys in NY and DC.

Just sayin.

EDIT: Unless, of course, BFL or Sonny were big contributors to his last election campaign.  Mr Gage...?

One flaw: With the exception of a couple Greek Church donations, I don't believe the Vleisides Clan would ever donate to any political party/election campaign. Remember, Sonny Vleisides is from the Laissez Faire school, hence FLC in Costa Rica, of which those investors are still waiting for tens of millions to be returned to them. If Sonny Vleisides is capable of fucking over like-minded friends and investors, do you honestly believe he's turned over a new leaf and won't fuck over geeks that he's not even close to? Think about that, long and hard. Then ask for a refund.

Some day you'll thank me privately, like the just under 20 guys to date have. I can only imagine the number of guys who thanked me but never acknowledged it. To them, I say you're welcome.

Now, join the bowel movement and shit on BFL. Together, we can make one helluva stink.
5395  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucks us over again on: August 14, 2013, 04:50:32 PM
quote:

"Looking at the dates of their "savings account" http://blockchain.info/address/16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc  it does look like BFL pre-mining mini rigs.  Nothing new here.  Avalon has been doing this since January.

Or someone broke sha256, mined 34 million and retired."

http://blockchain.info/address/16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226803.msg2929695#msg2929695
Firstly,
I'll sell you every bitcoin I have for $1000 each ... as you are saying they are worth there ...
Secondly,
Where does it say that random address is BFL?
Thirdly,
If it was BFL, how is transferring BTC like 1000, 5000 or 7000 pre-mining?

Lulz, again, feel free to provide proof, but making it up, as you are doing, just makes it seem like you're a scam ...

With all due respect, Kano, I'll give it a shot.

Start here, on April 6, 2013, shortly after the delivery of the Luke Unit: http://blockchain.info/tx/dcdb24399d7f93c1ac265154d7256ac4a212b3df5cf3c833d266ce4117678dc9

No Inputs (Newly Generated Coins) --->  1BxD2VLE95n7ZeVJSy3uoiJ5WdR72jWj5f

Quote
Total Received   3,989.58724885 BTC   

Final Balance   984.12563031 BTC

The majority of the coins end up here: 16ygEoTjg7P5GJwLKTQd1UgqAGuF8bKVRc

Ergo, BFL is mining for themselves.
5396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Luckily for bitcoiners, something similar has never happened. on: August 14, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
I feel this already happen in bitcoin world, see those various IPOs

"I will hold the Bitcoin for a Bounty." (for finding 'Tom Williams')
 - Bruce Wagner


Now, I can't get that epic Pattaya thread outta my head (<--pun not intended).
5397  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why MP is your God. on: August 14, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
Simply a Page 8 post to state that I want to believe.
5398  Other / Off-topic / Re: random lulz on: August 14, 2013, 04:11:02 PM
Wow nice find!

I'm taking your word for it, for I'm about to view it.

EDIT: I watched a few minutes and give it a 7/10.
5399  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL current state of affairs on: August 14, 2013, 05:03:25 AM
But honestly, whatever is in the backlog will never make ROI. It is a write-off folks. BFL had their window of opportunity but it has long since closed. Wonder if they are going to come out with Gen2 plans (and perhaps upgrade orders that have been in the queue for over 6 months) or just close up shop.

Someone doesn't understand how bitcoin mining works...


Coming from the guy who doesn't understand the concept of answering a simple question, one that's been asked literally over 100 times since last November.

What's the latest info pertaining to the FCC certification you promised in two week back in November, 2012?

Bonus question: And why did you delete the quote?
5400  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL fucks us over again on: August 14, 2013, 02:06:46 AM
Scientist have confirmed the equation of what a BFL Meltdown would look like:

(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269950.0) X 42 = BFL Meltdown
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