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Sad to see this coin dying
it traded today at 12 Satoshi on Poloniex....
The dev is not working on this project anymore. All eyes are on CXC, last updates of QTL Trader were cosmetic and large investors have noticed.
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Sad to see this coin dying
it traded today at 12 Satoshi on Poloniex....
The dev is not working on this project anymore. All eyes are on CXC, last updates of QTL Trader were cosmetic and large investors have noticed.
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Im still struggling to understand this. I was under the impression that all you needed was around 1 btc on each exchange, and 20k in QTL on one of them. When quatloo trader finds an arb, it uses the btc to buy the coins, and then transfers them to the sell exchange and sells them for btc. Otherwise why even have any BTC at all if the software does not buy? So the best arbs with highest percent spread change by the min. Its a different coin everytime. So in order to trade all coins on all exchanges, do I need to buy every coin that is shared on every exchange? That would be THOUSANDS of dollars. If so, how many coins of each? Its just that the best arb changes minute to minute. so I want to be able to play all the coins, if what your saying is true, this is going to be insanely expensive to have stashes of EVERY coin on ALL 3 exchanges?!?! Lets say that you have only 2 or 3 coins on the exchanges, does that mean you wait days or weeks for an arb above 1% for your specific coin to able to arb?!!? Sorry still confused.
"I was under the impression that all you needed was around 1 btc on each exchange, and 20k in QTL on one of them." and the other coin(s) you own. Also you don't need to have 1BTC on each exchange but you need to have some BTC So let me explain with an example what arbitrage is let say you are trying to arbitrage BTC/LTC then you are selling or Buying LTC on bittrex and buying or selling LTC on Poloniex so you need BTC and LTC on each exchanges... the software does not send BTC or any other coins to another exchange. so for example ltc is at 0.00730/0.00731 on bittrex and 0.0085/0.0086 on poloniex then since there is an arbitrage opportunity it will buy LTC on Bittrex at 0.00731 with the BTC you have and sell LTC on Poloniex at 0.0085 with the LTC you have You Bought 10 ltc at 0.00731 (bittrex) and sold 10 LTC (poloniex) at 0.0085 You had let say 10LTC and 0.3BTC on each exchanges after the trade you will have around (because I didn't count the exchange fees) 20LTC and 0.2269BTC on Bittrex 0LTC and 0.385BTC on Poloniex so your total BTC has increase you had 0.6BTC (bittrex + Poloniex) now you have 0.6119 you made a successful arbitrage with a profit of 0.0119 BTC (minus exchange fees) You understand? |
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SCAM https://cryptonius.com/?a=faq"As previously mentioned, we are the group of professional traders and skilled analysts with valuable experience in the sphere of cryptocurrency. All transactions in the cryptocurrency market are carried out according to an elementary principle: buy at a lower price, sell at a higher. And, vice versa, respectively - sell at a higher price, buy a lower. Due to the variability of the exchange rate, we make a great profit on this difference." Then http://cryptodouble.com/faq/"As previously mentioned, we are the group of professional traders and skilled analysts with valuable experience in the sphere of cryptocurrency. All transactions in the cryptocurrency market are carried out according to an elementary principle: buy at a lower price, sell at a higher. And, vice versa, respectively - sell at a higher price, buy a lower. Due to the variability of the exchange rate, we make a great profit on this difference." DO NOT INVEST LARGE AMOUNT YOU ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE ONLY VERY SMALL AMOUNT LIKE 100 DOGE THAT YOU GET FROM A FAUCET. SO YES 100% IT'S A PONZI |
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Ive been at this now a few hours . have 20k Quatloo on bittrex. Have .7 btc on Bittrex and Polonex. Added all the markets. put all my api keys in with full permissions. It scans and finds trades it can arbitrage. but every trade it tries returns with "fail exceeded percentage allotted for arbitrage". API permissions are set to full. Any ideas guys?!?! I feel, I am sooo close!!! I do have latest version. Thank you.
Vegas
I am also new to this program but I will give you some troubleshooting options that helped me and it could not hurt to try:
1. Do you have exactly 20k QTL? I made sure to get a few more over the 3000 I needed for the trade bot functionality to ensure that I do not get a margin of error on the required amount.
2. Did you try restarting the program or the PC entirely? I had errors when I first started up Quatloo but the stopped after I restarted the program. I also restart the program each time I save a key.
3. Is your .NET 4.5 Framework installed a set up properly? This could cause problems if it is not. Many other programs I have thought didn't work did so after I found out that I needed to uninstall the older version before reinstalling the new one. Please check the .NET 4.5 Framework troubleshooting page before doing anything related to this.
4. Try "under trading" instead of the exact amounts needed. I am still getting error messages about the ping-pong failing but everything is working fine. One of the main culprits that was keeping it from working entirely was that I was trading pretty much the entire amount I had which ever currency I was dealing with at the time and leaving some "slack space" fixed the problem for me even though it never gave an indication that it was fixed because of that. Obviously this option is up to my personal opinion but it would not hurt to try.
5. Try refreshing the account amounts. Quatloo seems to have some delay for me when it is giving me user readable information. I may cancel the bot and the trades it had going at the moment but I would need to wait a few short moments before I can act on the information unless I just click the refresh button so that the data I put in will be accepted accurately.
6. Do another check on the API that you entered. I know you said you checked your API but just do another courtesy check. Cryptsy did not work fully with the trading bot until I made a separate "Application Key" and used that instead of the default credentials listed in my account. My understanding is that Cryptsy's security will sometimes interfere with such programs as this that require API access. So see if you need to make a separate kind of "API Key" for Quatloo-to-Site usage.
Thank you for your support. Here are the answers to your suggestions. FIRST: A bounty of .25 BTC to anyone that can get 3 way arb working. . To start: I have .7 BTC in polo and .7 BTC in Bittrex and 1btc in Crypsy. 1. Q: Do you have exactly 20k QTL? I made sure to get a few more over the 3000 I needed for the trade bot functionality to ensure that I do not get a margin of error on the required amount. A : Yes I have 20,300 QTL in my bittrex acct. Do I need EXACTLY 20,000? Should I sell the other 300?. Let me understand. I need only 20,000 QTL in just 1 of the 3 exchanges, and NOT 20,000 QTL in each of the exchanges correct? 2. Q: Did you try restarting the program or the PC entirely? I had errors when I first started up Quatloo but the stopped after I restarted the program. I also restart the program each time I save a key. A: I have restarted the program many times, I even restarted my entire PC today3. Is your .NET 4.5 Framework installed a set up properly? A: I had .NET 4.5 installed. I uninstalled it, and reinstalled .net 4.5.2 (latest). Just did that today to try to get this working, didnt help.4. Q:Try "under trading" instead of the exact amounts needed. I am still getting error messages about the ping-pong failing but everything is working fine. One of the main culprits that was keeping it from working entirely was that I was trading pretty much the entire amount I had which ever currency I was dealing with at the time and leaving some "slack space" fixed the problem for me even though it never gave an indication that it was fixed because of that. Obviously this option is up to my personal opinion but it would not hurt to try. A: Ill be honest I dont understand ping pong, what its for or how it works. My only interest in arbitrage. Ive tried using 100% , 50% and 10% of my btc. None of them worked. Same error. Have not tried ping pong, I just dont get it.
5. Try refreshing the account amounts. Quatloo seems to have some delay for me when it is giving me user readable information. I may cancel the bot and the trades it had going at the moment but I would need to wait a few short moments before I can act on the information unless I just click the refresh button so that the data I put in will be accepted accurately. A: Im just trying to use arb , and I think It has to refresh the accts anyway6. Q: Do another check on the API that you entered. I know you said you checked your API but just do another courtesy check. Cryptsy did not work fully with the trading bot until I made a separate "Application Key" and used that instead of the default credentials listed in my account. My understanding is that Cryptsy's security will sometimes interfere with such programs as this that require API access. So see if you need to make a separate kind of "API Key" for Quatloo-to-Site usage. A: This is GREAT information. Right now Im just trying to arb with Bittrex and Polo as I know they are much easier to work with, but I keep getting same error. I havent even tried cryptsy yet.
To be more specific all API options on Bittrex are green and turned on, poloneix says: API ACCESS IS ENABLED , and the option for "withdraw" is checked.
API for both Bittrex and Poloneix show correct balances, so that tells me my api keys are correct Misc notes and updates I tried Bittrex and crypsy, it DOES scan and find arbs >1% (I have it set at 1%), but after scan, nothing happens in the grey box below, not even an error. Noob question: do I need to create wallets for all the coins im trading on all the exchanges? I have only a few wallet addresses generated on some of the exchanges. Note: I DO have 2FA enabled on all exchanges. I didnt read that this needed to be turned off. When I try to arb Bittrex and Poloneix I get that error "failed , exceeded percentage alloted" when it scans and finds and arb, and tries to execute When I try to arb Bittrex and Cryptsy, it finds potential arbs >1% (Where I have it set), but nothing happends in the grey box below. Tried 3 way arb. It finds potential arbs >1% and nothing happends in the grey box below, left it running for atleast 5 cycles. @Dev: Everytime I launch software I have to load markets, and add each individual coin everythtime, one by one for each market. Can you have the software save the markets automatically each time I close the software would be better. Thank you.Vegas "fail exceeded percentage allotted for arbitrage". that simply means that the trade needed was bigger than what you have as a % for your coins. meaning if you have 1BTC and 1LTC you enter 30% that's 0.3 BTC and 0.3LTC is allowed to be played and the arbitrage was larger than 0.3BTC or larger than 0.3LTC To do arbitrage you need both BTC and the other coin on each exchanges. so for example if you try to arbitrage LTC/BTC you need BTC and LTC on each exchanges. hope this help |
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Lets hope they don't forget that when we started to invest for 6600BRO BTC was at 380usd, in 6 months BTC could be worth 10usd at this rate...
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how has this coin not done way better than this?
because it's centralized, competition (Foldingcoin, Gridcoin) and the dev. do not upgrade the coin often enough But maybe after cc 2.0 that will be in the past Edit: please vote for Curecoin to be listed on Cryptsy https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes |
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Any timetable for the next upgrade and will we get more exchanges?
thanks and merry xmas
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Unofficial Timeline (from Nov 24th email, info may be very stale): Jan 4 - Demo Game Preview for CES Show Jan 21 - Launch Demo and preview open to public Feb 21 - March 21 - Second Coin Sale March 21 - Launch of First Product (Fantasy Sports) April 25 - Launch Poker and Casino Products Cheers  If I knew I would have to wait 6/7 months to get some return from Investments... I wouldn't have invested! Anyone is sadden by this update? I guess it's better than nothing... It's a xmas miracle we finally have time table. Let's hope they deliver and maybe I will be confident enough to double down on the second IPO |
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I agree that you should raise the arb to 25k with QTL being so cheap. And it would be a nice surprise if you could get a C-Cex and Coin-Swap arb tabs for next week when Pay Coin XPY from GAW gets huge.
my view is that we need more exchanges and more algos Arb should not be the priority, it failed to bring more users so far. |
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I love it when you delete my posts....just tells what a fecking idiot I was to invest in this....just hurry up with the wallet so I can try and recover something......or should I just admit to myself that I've been ripped off? All I see is pretty pictures....and missing posts that question anything...... so I'll just wait for you to delete me yet again....if only you where so good at producing the promised product....we'd all be gambling on those fantastic looking tables. the only promise I can see being kept is that investing in this may leave you with nothing, so far your 1 for 1 on that Jon  I have to agree with that... the ICO finish a month ago and we still don't have any time table. what a f****ing Joke this is! |
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Any update ? any plan to reverse the trend?
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Well........... There will always be fud Cheap cheap coins. Thank you dumpers  How is this fud? I'm not saying it's a crap coin or a bad idea... I'm saying we need to bring more attention to this coin and that can only be done by adding more exchanges and marketing the platform! I had to look for a long time before I found this platform and I'm probably not the only one... my guess is that most people out there never heard of QTL or Quatloo Trader In all seriousness how many people use or are interested to do arbitrage trading? (I'm not for instance) not to mention that there is already bots and arbitrade websites out there... |
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We need a real upgrade enough with this arb. function that only a few people care about! New exchanges, algos and marketing are the only things that will bring more people to this coin. otherwise the coin will die... --------------------------------------------------- I use the program now for a week and found some parts that could be enhanced:
1. it would be nice to have the same column order for different exchanges, also the same font!!!
2. it would be better to use a different color schema for each exchange
3. BITtrex BaseCoinValue is the default sorting
4. CEX_IO has no accounts listing
5. CEX_IO Marketing History does not mention WHAT was traded
6. Export to Excel for decision making information is good, but Common markets is missing
7. One error popped up saying that I must have at least 1000 QTLs to operate the program, and I have 4000. This error does not go away till you restart the program!!!
I have 3 windows open and had to set all for each trading pair again, ... It would be nice if we could use templates, or if the last setting for EACH coin would be saved automatically
8. Auto refresh after placing order does not work, if it is traded via auto pilot.
agreed and more 9) Option to edit an open order would be nice 10) In trader add the quantity when we press on BTC balance 11) On Cex.io add GHS/BTC and GHS/USD in account when click left 12) 1 page with the total amount of crypto in each excahnges (going to each account for every exchanges every time takes too much time) 13) Add the VWAP for each coin and add a VWAP calculator/Timer 14) Add cost in BTC and crypto on whale tasks when we press place order 15) More Exchanges (BTER, Bitsamp, Havelock, BTC-e, MCXnow) 16) A chat for users connected to the software 17) an auto update of the software 19) Add a faucet rotator/timer where we can upload our own list of faucets and our Addresses. (not sure if it's possible but would be nice) 20) Charts for Technical Analysis 21) Crypto/Bitcoin Breaking News 22) An option to see what is the avg price where we bought our coins 23) A price alarm 24) More algos: *% volume: buy/sell with % of volume *Volume Inline: Works the order in line with the volume *VWAP: Work to a VWAP benchmark driven by the historical volume curve *TWAP: Sends orders into the market evenly over time *PATHFINDER: Intelligently routes orders to all available liquidity venues *RESERVE: Places your order at a specific limit price, showing only either your specified display size to hide your full order quantity *Fake wall: put a wall up and remove the wall when someone try to buy or sell into it *falling knife: passively buy x amount in BTC of a coin that fall more than x % *Take profit: Passively sell x amount of a coin that raise more than x % 25) Add an auto trading bot 26) Advertise your platform on Reddit and other places |
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because i don't get pay to do their job...
Their job isn't to entertain trolls like yourself. Why not just go play video games? Sure because it just normal to say "will let you know what we came up with after the weekend." and then not come back for over a week? But in the Bitcoin world it just normal to let your investors hanging for over a week wondering if you have been scammed or not I'm sorry but it seems that we have been scammed again... I really hope I'm wrong! Good luck to all One would think in the time you spent writing these posts and whining, you could have sent a PM with your questions and likely already received an answer. I'm sorry but why don't they come back to us? All investors need to PM then now!?! I'm sorry I though they had a job to do (finding more investors, making the software, marketing the coin etc.) and not answer to PM's from every single investors! but if anyone did please let us know what they said. thanks |
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because i don't get pay to do their job...
Their job isn't to entertain trolls like yourself. Why not just go play video games? Sure because it just normal to say "will let you know what we came up with after the weekend." and then not come back for over a week? But in the Bitcoin world it just normal to let your investors hanging for over a week wondering if you have been scammed or not I'm sorry but it seems that we have been scammed again... I really hope I'm wrong! Nothing worth than uncertainty thanks G*D this coin is not trading yet... But with management like that I guess we can expect some interesting days ahead if it ever start trading! Good luck to all |
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AAAAAND IT'S GONE?
I can't wait for this post, which makes absolutely NO sense, to be deleted. By whom? The team that seems to have gone away? Why don't you try reaching out rather than relying on this shitty forum? I see them on Skype right now although I'm not going to bother them with petty questions asking for updates. because i don't get pay to do their job... and such a "shitty forum" that 100% of their ICO was done there! |
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AAAAAND IT'S GONE?
I can't wait for this post, which makes absolutely NO sense, to be deleted. By whom? The team that seems to have gone away? |
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