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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 15, 2019, 07:44:59 AM
When do you plan to have your token on exchanges? Do you plan to hit up any crypto exchanges like Binance, KuCoin or Huobi?
We definitely have plans to list our tokens on major exchanges. But before that, we'll be focusing on deploying our devices and gaining real utilities of our token. Once Deeper token (DPR) is widely adopted, major exchanges will in turn need DPR to be listed.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 15, 2019, 07:36:17 AM
There are some projects that allow users to sell their private data to marketing companies. I am wondering if you are considering that option or if your project is solely based on privacy and free access to information. Have you considered collaboration with such projects?
Yes, users should the right to decide what to do with their private data (including selling it). That's what we call data sovereignty in our whitepaper. I can see that as future work when we develop the trusted Internet. For now, we'll be focusing on protecting data privacy.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 15, 2019, 07:29:44 AM
Hmm, I like good projects to tinker with.

So if I understood correctly, once AtomOS is released, anyone anywhere can install a node on whatever hardware he wants (be it a pi or a nuc for instance)? Are homemade devices allowed to mine on the e2 chain too?

Because the main issue usually is getting those "official" devices shipped abroad. They usually cost quite a bit and paying import and shipping taxes is always an annoyance.

Can more than one device run on a home network? Asking as residential internet connections usually have one single (and dynamic) IP. Or could I potentially a deep army of rPIs :p?

BTW there's a typo page 64: "Similar to Carnado [9], ", it's Cardano, not Carnado

I know it's a small detail, but it's worth correcting...
Just fixed the typo in whitepaper Smiley Thanks very much!

You basically need to run AtomOS to participate in e2 chain mining. A mini PC + AtomOS definitely works! As for multiple nodes in a home network, I don't have an answer now. We'll carefully think about it in e2 chain implementation. We generally discourage mining farms as we want to give everybody an equal chance to participate.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 07, 2019, 07:54:43 AM
I am very excited about this project, but my main concern regarding this private Internet connection is the exit node. We know that exit nodes are always areas of vulnerability for privacy. Considering that some users will have to use hardware to keep your private network active, I am wondering to what extent this might be a risk for them. 
This is a very good question. We already have the solution to eliminate the risk for users.
In AtomOS, we do NAT for every connection, for the connections from other users, AtomOS will assign them a specified range source port such as ( 60000~65534). This can help user to clarify the bad traffic is from others instead of himself.
Good question. Let me add some more points here:
1. Users will use our dedicated hardware, DeeperConnect, to maintain Deeper network. It does not involve your other devices.
2. We are a team of network security experts who are in this industry for decades. Strict traffic isolation is implemented between your own traffic and other traffic. You can also specify how much bandwidth you want to share.
3. DeeperConnect itself is a hardware firewall. It protects you from malware and other Internet threats. It's actually better than Mcafee or similar products as you now don't need to install any of them in your computer, but have a dedicated device to handle all those things.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 07, 2019, 07:36:21 AM
Very interesting project. I hope this project will bring some real use cases for crypto tokens. I see that unlike most of the hyped-up projects in the days of ICO fever, you have a working product. The market has been so bad lately and there has been so much capital destruction. People have lost hope in ICOs and crypto in general. We need to reinvent the market and stop paying attention to the projects with rockstars that deliver nothing. Some of those projects are at the top 10 in market cap. We need to pay attention to real projects with an ethical and hardworking crew.
Absolutely. There's always hype and speculation in new markets. Just like the Internet bubble around 2000. Don't lose confidence in blockchain. Internet has proven itself in the past 20 years and blockchain will, too. Deeper network is one of the projects with real use cases. We'll be focusing on deploying our devices rather than ICOs. Anyway, be patient and look forward into the next 5 years or so.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - World's first HW for secure sharing and fair mining🔥 on: February 07, 2019, 07:17:39 AM
Could you create a Medium article explaining your tunneling technologies (AtomOS) to the man on the street? I kind of understand that you have designed them to circumvent censorship and to ensure the high performance and scalability of the system. But I still havenít connected all the dots. I guess most people interested in privacy would like to know how they will be better than VP technologies which are always open to exploitation.
You can find some detail of our technology in the whitepaper:
https://deeper.network/assets/pdf/whitepaper/Deeper-WP-EN-1130.pdf

We'll work on Medium articles in the future. To answer your question, VPN uses central service nodes and its traffic pattern is easily recognized by censorship. Deeper network is decentralized and nodes discover each other on blockchain. AtomOS tunnel encrypts all data being transferred and disguises traffic pattern. Last but not least, VPN is way too slow when dealing with internationl Internet traffic. AtomOS implements fast TCP and novel congestion control algorithms to accelerate data transmission. For example, we tested 4K video streaming between US and China and observed no delays at all.

Thanks for your interest in our project. Stay tuned!
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - A Blockchain Hardware Firewall For Sharing And Mining🔥 on: December 10, 2018, 10:11:56 PM
What are advantages and disadvantages or using hardware instead of just relying on computers, cellphones or IoT devices like other projects plan to do?
This is indeed a good question. Here's the main advantage:
You can think of our device, Deeper Connect, as a hardware security firewall sitting besides your Wifi router at home (it will eventually replace your Wifi router once we release our next product Deeper Connect - Wifi version). I suppose you never want to turn off your Wifi router at home. Therefore, Deeper Connect should be a 24/7 on device that provides security protects to your home network, allows you open access to any Internet content w/o being censored, and protects your privacy while using the Internet. Besides that, Deeper Connect will run our own blockchain called e^2 chain and earn you Deeper tokens (DPR). If your router will be on 24/7 anyway, why not run a blockchain on it and mine tokens. The power consumption of Deeper Connect can be as low as 5W since e^2 chain uses a different consensus algorithm called PoC (Proof of Credit) that is different from Bitcoin's PoW. You simply don't need to compete hashing power with other nodes.

Computers and cellphones are not reliable 24/7, plus it's not worth it if you compare their power consumption with Deeper Connect. IoT devices normally does not have that computing power to run a blockchain. Deeper Connect has a embedded CPU! In fact, IoT devices at your home (e.g., camera) should join Deeper Network to get security protection and avoid data leakage.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀[ANN] DEEPER NETWORK - A Blockchain Hardware Firewall For Sharing And Mining🔥 on: December 10, 2018, 09:46:58 PM
This is one of the most substantial whitepapers I've encountered here. The one who wrote this might have experienced in thesis writing as it is a well-referenced paper also. If they put so much effort in creating this document, then, it is saying something positive for the dev team. They are sincere on this project. But are you going to stay anonymous?
Absolutely! We've put tons of effort into developing our software/hardware. We are excited about this project as it is the first blockchain project (as far as we know) that aims for real-world use case and massive adoption of the blockchain technology via hardware deployment. You can always reach us in our Telegram channel. Feel free to communicate and it does not matter if we stay anonymous or not.
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