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1  Other / Meta / Re: Re: 10th anniversary art contest on: November 16, 2019, 04:20:46 PM
And why is that? Because you didn't got as much merits as me? I can also say you plagiarized your entry as I don't think you made the background image yourself, is just downloaded from the internet and you have just put a trophy and a box to cover some details like a chip or something. So don't talk and especially don't give negative trust for plagiarism when you also make it.

P.S. Bitcointalk funny thing: a plagiarist who is calling others plagiarists getting merited.

I'd love for you to post a link to where I downloaded the background on my 1st entry and put a trophy on top of it?  Roll Eyes

Do you have anything to say about my 2nd entry?
(shameless plugs Tongue)

Yours came from: https://www.freedommag.org/special-reports/new-yorker/caption-the-cartoon/the-last-supper.html
Where it says below the image:
Quote
--snip--
Freedom asked our staff artists and writers to come up with the appropriate cartoons and captions inspired by Lawrence Wright, Paul Haggis and the rest of the apostate “Posse.” And to get everyone in on the act, we invite you, the reader, to vote for your favorite captions on each of the cartoons above.
--snip--

This, to me, says there were artists that created this cartoon and they held a contest on what caption goes best with the image.

I told you privately I was going to post something this weekend to garnish a community consensus, but based on what I'm seing here today, I don't think it's necessary.
If theymos thinks I was out of line with this feedback, he is welcome to call me out on it.

1) If someone from the contest used someone else image (even stock image) or idea should be considered plagiarism. There is no "true plagiarism" or "little plagiarism" there is only plagiarism. And if I look on the entries of the contest 90% are plagiarized.

2) The image I downloaded from freedommag.org made by an unknown artist is also plagiarized since he used da Vinci's idea (the last supper).
In my personal case, if using the image of someone who plagiarized da Vinci without giving credits is consider plagiarism, then I plagiarized the "unknown plagiarist" for 1 day (between the post and the added credits edit) so please ask a moderator/admin to remove all the merits received between or subtract them from the contest if removing them is not possible. My mistake, I can accept it.

1) Stock imagery is used all the time, various images online have various usage rights. A free public domain image that has no usage rights and is free for personal or commercial use, IMO, does not necessarily require credits in this situation. A stock image could depend on the type of usage rights a person has been granted when acquiring it. You appear to be getting into copyright infringement, which I think is worse than generalized plagiarism, as you are defining it. The two terms could go hand in hand but there are some differences.

2) It appears to me that "staff artists" created the image, as per my comment above. Da Vinci's stuff is in the public domain and I personally wouldn't consider it plagiarism nor copyright infringement.


1) According to https://www.copyright.com/blog/plagiarism-vs-copyright-infringement/

"Plagiarism ≠ Copyright Infringement
Traditionally, the two notions of plagiarism and copyright infringement have been associated with one another. If it’s plagiarism, it must be copyright infringement, and vice-versa. However, this is simply not true. A case may not be considered infringement because it has followed a fair use protocol, but may still be classed as plagiarism. On the flipside, a case of clear copyright infringement may not fall into the plagiarism category because attribution has been given.

So, let me try again to answer the question clearly. What is the difference between plagiarism and copyright infringement? The two occupy different spaces that run parallel with one another. The only way to determine whether something constitutes plagiarism or infringement rests on what issue it is you are trying to address."

2) (...staff artists and writers...) don't subtract what you want from context Tongue

OK, so once again: If i didn't gave credits to the base image for 1 day, how do we handle this case? Do I get a merit cut, or I get negative trust for eternity?

EDIT:
Since plagiarism (a term so interpretable) is used way too often as an excuse to give negative trust and ban people around this forum, way too many Legendaries (OGs) give merit rewards to others if they prove others did plagiarism because they just suspect this (a form of persecution). Since this forum is about cryptocurrency (a privacy thing) but you have no privacy since every move, every post is recorded and stored somewhere out there. Since every time someone is accusing you of something, you must prove you are not guilty and not other way around (they should prove you are guilty) I just find this forum too centralized, too communist and... just a waste of my time so consider this is my last post.

EDIT2
Changed my mind...
2  Other / Meta / Re: Re: 10th anniversary art contest on: November 16, 2019, 07:47:55 AM
<...> As for the merit points, I think I can merit anyone I want how much points I want, ofc in the limit of 50/month. Same with the wallet, I can donate my money (BTC in this case) to anyone I want.
For your knowledge that wallet is from a donation fund of a project I hold a bag of coins, as you can see below and check on their discord #general -> pinned messages.


Profile that has received 20 Merits from you yesterday at once, uses the same Bitcoin address, has the same name as yours and from Romania like yourself.

Salut! Eu sunt Bogdan <...>
(Archive)

Salutare tuturor! Ma numesc Bogdan <...>
(Archive)

Why don't you put the entire presentation of @othell_rogue, which is: "Salut! Eu sunt Bogdan din Pitesti, dar acum locuiesc in Spania impreuna cu familia." meaning "I am from Pitesti (Romania) but I live in Spain with my family". Anyway there are maybe hundreds of thousands of first names Bogdan in Romania as you can check on wiki. The name Bogdan in here is like John in the USA, means nothing. Regarding the address I explained once above.


And the post itself inside the archive shows it was edited after (almost) a day, still without credits:
This means you're lying here:
Actually I added credits to the website minutes later

OK, after one day. Happy?! I edited more than once so maybe I said minutes and maybe were hours. Maybe I don't remember which one waas the first.

You've been tagged by ibminer already, at theymos' request:
- If people are stealing artwork (ie. not just using stock images, but true plagiarism), leave them negative trust.

Acording to wikipedia.org Plagiarism is: "Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "stealing and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions" and the representation of them as one's own original work.[1][2]"

So:
1) If someone from the contest used someone else image (even stock image) or idea should be considered plagiarism. There is no "true plagiarism" or "little plagiarism" there is only plagiarism. And if I look on the entries of the contest 90% are plagiarized.

2) The image I downloaded from freedommag.org made by an unknown artist is also plagiarized since he used da Vinci's idea (the last supper).
In my personal case, if using the image of someone who plagiarized da Vinci without giving credits is consider plagiarism, then I plagiarized the "unknown plagiarist" for 1 day (between the post and the added credits edit) so please ask a moderator/admin to remove all the merits received between or subtract them from the contest if removing them is not possible. My mistake, I can accept it.

3  Other / Meta / Re: Re: 10th anniversary art contest on: November 15, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Hello there!
Actually I added credits to the website minutes later, the "2 days later" edit you are talking about is actually the 2nd edit where I fixed a typo as you can see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg52815329#msg52815329 <...>
Quoted and archived

Judging by the snapshot of your post in the web-archive, it's not true.
You published the picture on October 19 and in the morning of October 21 it still was without any reference to the original source: http://archive.li/Om84c#selection-8461.1-8461.4

And apparently you also sent 20 merit to your another profile othell_rogue for this comment (Archive)

Proof of connection:

3L1NEFH3VZNGb37jvuSpfKXRYgPuhkExD2
(Archive)

Quote from: othell_rogue
3L1NEFH3VZNGb37jvuSpfKXRYgPuhkExD2
(Archive)

Apparently your archive link is pointing October 19 for the post without reference and not October 21. And as a side fact the original source is unknown because the base image is from a contest from 2011 but I credited freedom.org anyway because they held the contest. Anyway my mistake since I posted in a hurry.

As for the merit points, I think I can merit anyone I want how much points I want, ofc in the limit of 50/month. Same with the wallet, I can donate my money (BTC in this case) to anyone I want.
For your knowledge that wallet is from a donation fund of a project I hold a bag of coins, as you can see below and check on their discord #general -> pinned messages.
4  Other / Meta / Re: Re: 10th anniversary art contest on: November 15, 2019, 05:24:19 AM
One member, which received more than 100 merit in the art contest topic, wrote that he took the "base image" from another website, but at the same time his nickname is specified on the picture.
I suppose, this can make a confusion that this user painted most of the image.
I wouldn't know if this is "common" to do on artwork or not, but it is indeed confusing. Note that he originally posted it without Credits, and edited his post 2 days later. I can't know for sure when during those 2 days the Credits were added.
It's still funny and fits the contest.

Hello there!
Actually I added credits to the website minutes later, the "2 days later" edit you are talking about is actually the 2nd edit where I fixed a typo as you can see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg52815329#msg52815329


I feel like this should be considered true plagiarism. It's crazy it received so much merit, only if the guy drew these images himself should it deserve that much merit.


And why is that? Because you didn't got as much merits as me? I can also say you plagiarized your entry as I don't think you made the background image yourself, is just downloaded from the internet and you have just put a trophy and a box to cover some details like a chip or something. So don't talk and especially don't give negative trust for plagiarism when you also make it.

P.S. Bitcointalk funny thing: a plagiarist who is calling others plagiarists getting merited.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 👑[ANN][BIS]Bismuth - On/off-chain, IoT, Scaling, Tokens, Privacy, Governance on: November 14, 2019, 10:24:23 PM
I am watching this project since its inception and I didn't saw a more dedicated team and skilled at the same time on any project out there. The commitment is at the highest levels on Bismuth and the recent community implication implementation (community voting implementation) is another feature which makes me appreciate the guys behind this project. Looking more in depth especially on Github you can see the amount of work they put and the skills of the developers.

To make a fully functional blockchain from scratch in Python and implement this amount of features is telling everything about the developers, they simply rock. In comparison I think of Tezos which took 1 year to launch a blockchain with 30+ developers and hundred of millions of dollars. We could talk about Ethereum which struggle for years now to move to POS. And the examples can continue until morning if you wish.

Why I am telling this?
1) Because I love this project and of course is a rare life changing project, is not about if is all about when, because is just a matter of time until it will explode in terms of price, at $0.10 is just ridiculous cheap, buy it and thank me later.

2) Because I want to thank the team and all the people involved in this project and I want to tell you to keep doing what are you doing because you are doing a great job. Hat off!

WoW, your gratitude is really motivational for us.
Thanks for the nice words and your appreciation!
6  Other / Meta / Re: [CONTEST] Design the 10 years of Bitcointalk commemorative Coldkey ($500+ prize) on: November 13, 2019, 04:42:30 AM

Hello everyone,

Thanks a lot to participants for your submissions ! Smiley
Keep them coming, this is getting better and better.
Still a few days left to participate !

I'll make a few cards today with some of the designs that have been uploaded here, like I did a few days ago.
We'll see better how it renders.



Please, avoid to put a BTC address, and no BTC amount as well. It's difficult to make a functional wallet out of these.
We can always put our QR code on top of the one on the card, however it is not that easy to mask the address/denomination.

Thanks Smiley
Hello  Smiley I can provide my options without an address, a QR code and a amount of BTC, if it will be necessary.

It seems it does, I'm afraid Smiley

It seems that people/participants don't read the thread posts or simply they don't like to comply when someone is asking them to do something, since I don't find an explanation why to work extra to put a bitcoin address and a QR code when @yogg asked you not to do so.
P.S. Sorry for the off-topic.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: Brave Browser Crypto Rewards Program on: November 13, 2019, 04:25:14 AM

I used to receive it, but the same goes off by the end of the month. Once again it gets received based on the activity, and by the end of the month it goes off. This means we're supposed to tip it to content creators appreciating their efforts. I tried to move to a wallet, and it wasn't possible at the moment.
Meaning those earning from the ads cant widraw and can only be use for tipping  creators?


I understood it this way too ... Can anyone confirm that he has withdraw earnings to own wallet or to the exchange?

I didn't made an withdrawal yet because of the low amount of BAT in my wallet but since Brave asked to backup the wallet this means you can withdrawal your coins. The trick is that you will need to verify your account with Uphold before making a withdrawal, meaning you'll need to pass their KYC (full KYC) ID verification and all the stuff.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 👑[ANN][BIS]Bismuth - On/off-chain, IoT, Scaling, Tokens, Privacy, Governance on: November 13, 2019, 04:15:35 AM
Glad to see pow mining staying with reduced rewards although I will probably never end up with a hypernode at this point. Has anyone upgraded a legacy wallet to the latest hardfork wallet and if so did you encounter any issues?

You can always buy the missing coins for your HyperNode Tongue
As for the upgrade it went smooth on my side, I upgraded my VPS hypernodes yesterday and they are working well for about 20h.
9  Local / Offtopic / Re: Românii și moldovenii sunt un singur popor? on: November 12, 2019, 08:56:26 PM
Singura legatura pe care o vad eu, mentionez ca poate gresesc intrucat nu cunosc istoria Moldovei si nici pe a Romaniei este ca vorbim aceeasi limba, asta datorita imperiului roman care se intindea dincolo de Prut. Nu stiu daca Moldova si Romania au format candva o singura tara sau ceva de genul asta.
Sunt sigur ca gasesti mai multe informatii despre asta pe internet.
Oricum eu va vad ca fratii de peste Prut Smiley

Im not from Moldova. Im just wonder you opinion.

You got it.
10  Local / Offtopic / Re: To vote or not to vote, that is the question on: November 12, 2019, 04:29:33 AM
Voi ce parere aveti despre cei doi, va veti duce la vot in turul al 2-lea?

Eu ma duc, dar mi-e teama ca prea multi vor absenta (poate mult mai multi decat ieri), fie din dezamagire, fie crezand ca jocurile sunt facute.
Pentru cei care nu-s convinsi: meciul se termina doar dupa ce a fluierat arbitrul.

Asta ramane de vazut (daca vor absenta mai multi sau nu) mai multe persoane cu care am vorbit despre votare n-au fost la vot in turul intai insa vor merge in turul al doilea. Intradevar sunt si unele persoane care cred ca jocurile sunt facute deja asa cum ai precizat si tu, dar nimic nu este sigur asa ca eu personal voi merge sa votez.
11  Local / Offtopic / Re: To vote or not to vote, that is the question on: November 11, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Salutare frati si surori de pretutindeni.
Nu prea ma omor cu politica insa am fost sa votez. E singura perioada cand ma intereseaza catusi de putin. Voi ati fost la vot? Sper ca da Tongue Dupa cum probabil stiti in turul doi au ajuns Iohannis si Dancila. Intrebarea multora este (nu si cazul meu): sa merg sa votez, in cazul de fata, contracandidatul lui Dancila (vot negativ) sau sa nu merg deloc?
Voi ce parere aveti despre cei doi, va veti duce la vot in turul al 2-lea?
Cel mai bine este sa te duci si sa votezi pe bune, daca nu te duci, exita riscul, pentru ca suntem in RO, sa voteze altcineva cu identitatea ta.Nici sa mergi si sa anulezi votul nu este ok pentru ca toate voturile anulate se vor impatii in mod egal celor doi candidati, deci faci mai mult rau decat bine.Stiu ca nu avem ce alege dar totusi fiecare trebuie sa aleaga raul mai mic din punctul sau de vedere.
Asa ca, la vot toata lumea in turul 2. Poate in alti 30 de ani se vor schimba unele lucruri:D

Eu cu siguranta voi merge. Din cate stiam daca votezi aiurea se anuleaza votul nu se imparte in mod egal celor doi candidati. De votat as vota cu cel care fura mai putin evident.
12  Local / Offtopic / To vote or not to vote, that is the question on: November 11, 2019, 09:04:02 AM
Salutare frati si surori de pretutindeni.
Nu prea ma omor cu politica insa am fost sa votez. E singura perioada cand ma intereseaza catusi de putin. Voi ati fost la vot? Sper ca da Tongue Dupa cum probabil stiti in turul doi au ajuns Iohannis si Dancila. Intrebarea multora este (nu si cazul meu): sa merg sa votez, in cazul de fata, contracandidatul lui Dancila (vot negativ) sau sa nu merg deloc?
Voi ce parere aveti despre cei doi, va veti duce la vot in turul al 2-lea?
13  Local / Anunturi importante / Re: Propunere: Prima adunare generala! on: November 10, 2019, 05:51:01 AM

Ce tot numai cu București?  Nu se adună nimeni în Drobeta Turnu Severin?  
 
Am auzit că acolo este cel mai mare și tare din Crypto!  



Da am auzit si eu asta Tongue

Acum lasand guma la o parte, chiar sunt curios daca se mai tin astfel de intalniri.

Nu a fost a glumă, brohim.  

Soon.  


The future has arrived and the year is 2110. Vlad is still here saying ' soon '  Grin Grin

Hahaha - man, it sure looks that way.  

BELIEVE!!!  Wink



Atunci traiasca Drobeta, pentru mine e OK si acolo, fiind la jumatate intre Bucuresti si Drobeta. Doar sa spuneti unde se tine, sa stiu daca fac stanga sau dreapta  Grin
14  Other / Meta / Re: [CONTEST] Design the 10 years of Bitcointalk commemorative Coldkey ($500+ prize) on: November 10, 2019, 05:45:58 AM
hope you like it!

-snip-


Your card is looking awesome, the colors fits perfect and the details are amazing. The only thing you must add is something related to bitcointalk.org and/or 10th anniversary, because as it is reminds of bitcoin.

See the first rule:
Contest rules :
- Make a design for a Coldkey that reminds you of Bitcointalk.org.
15  Local / Offtopic / Re: Românii și moldovenii sunt un singur popor? on: November 09, 2019, 04:51:11 AM
Singura legatura pe care o vad eu, mentionez ca poate gresesc intrucat nu cunosc istoria Moldovei si nici pe a Romaniei este ca vorbim aceeasi limba, asta datorita imperiului roman care se intindea dincolo de Prut. Nu stiu daca Moldova si Romania au format candva o singura tara sau ceva de genul asta.
Sunt sigur ca gasesti mai multe informatii despre asta pe internet.
Oricum eu va vad ca fratii de peste Prut Smiley
16  Local / Anunturi importante / Re: Propunere: Prima adunare generala! on: November 09, 2019, 04:42:41 AM

Ce tot numai cu București?  Nu se adună nimeni în Drobeta Turnu Severin?   
 
Am auzit că acolo este cel mai mare și tare din Crypto! 



Da am auzit si eu asta Tongue

Acum lasand guma la o parte, chiar sunt curios daca se mai tin astfel de intalniri.
17  Other / Meta / Re: How did you chosen ₿itcointalk username at the beginning of registrations? on: November 08, 2019, 10:20:34 AM
For me is a nickname I use on a game I played long time ago (LineageII) and I also used it on here just because it was available, I really didn't thought about it very much back in the days. At the origins: I took my name and englished it a bit to fit better in the online space where the predominant language is English.
18  Other / Serious discussion / Re: What wallet do you prefer? on: November 08, 2019, 09:01:26 AM
I prefer paper wallets purely from security reasons. I know I may use and I also have a hardware wallet, but since I don't use BTC regularly and I also don't trust 3rd party apps I keep my BTC in a paper wallet. Maybe I am a bit paranoid but it is just the way I am  Grin
19  Other / Meta / Re: [CONTEST] Design the 10 years of Bitcointalk commemorative Coldkey ($500+ prize) on: November 07, 2019, 07:23:47 PM
I've made a simple yet on point card design for the event.
I was thinking of a silver-gradient card. As you can see I've used this in combination with the bitcoin/bitcointalk colors which in my opinion looks great.
In addition, this will give you plenty of room to place the unique elements like your logo and name, QR code, hologram, etc.

Front


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20  Other / Meta / Re: Post count inconsistency on: November 06, 2019, 06:38:42 PM
EDIT: Since this is case closed, thread may be closed also.
You can lock it yourself. Bottom-left of the thread, and click the "lock" button.

Thanks! Smiley
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