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1  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Obyte/Byteball: нoвый кoнсeнcуc нa DAG + привaтныe плaтeжи on: January 06, 2020, 02:14:04 PM
Это все конечно здорово, декс, некий аналог атомарных свопов + модные дефи еще можно прикрутить, вот только как это все будет работать при такой ликвидности?
никак? Та и с той скоростью, с которой что то пилится в обайте, пройдут десятки лет для создания какой нибудь захудалой инфраструктуры
а так да, соболезную всем влошившимся
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 31, 2019, 12:40:24 AM
"I think Obyte has a sh!tloads of technology, and if the world was fair, it would have higher value. And I don't think the world is fair. And I don't think adding extra technology would help. Your only chance is marketing chance and even then... It's hard right now." ~ Richard Heart on Obyte Podcast https://obyte.fireside.fm/richard-heart?t=9018
imo distribution killed this project. Even if you put aside lisk, waves, iconomi, comodo. Bitcoin actually had the similar task - how to distribute coins. From the scratch subsidy for miners is not the way, they should earn from fees. Fair economy, without government subsidy shit. But then Satoshi still had to distribute coins. So he just put it in coinbase reward. But he could airdrop all btc in the same way as Tony did, just with some other methods. Maybe, maybe Tony should have done the same. Start with pow and subsidy, and move to witnesses over time. Maybe this would create stronger community, who know. I understand Tony's decision to go with distribution, itís fair and it seems you are doing everything right to create a community. But that did not work. While some pow coins managed to create somewhat ok communities. Perhaps there would be more candidates on witnesses, more transparency. But this is only a version, the crypto is dying and small projects like obyte are at the forefront of this process.
Well, yes, I understand that I said stupidity, because there is no need pow for obyte and even if you want to, itís unlikely to be realized. But the distribution was unsolved issue then. Whel he could airdrop it to vc investors like vitalik did, but this is no easier task than the rest
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 15, 2019, 10:13:06 PM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.

Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?

Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.

Is 2019-2020 any different from 2015-2016?
dotcom bubble? never heard). Crypto is in the same condition as dotcom companies without legit business. Only idiots continue to hope for a new bubble in this area)

How exactly are those idiots wrong this time and were not wrong last time? When BTC gets back at ATH, all those non-idiot rational "investors" will be back FOMOing empty promises on white papers because they are unable to make a difference between turd and gem. Next time is not going to be any different, it will probably happen much quicker and percentage-wise not as much, but it will happen no matter how deep in denial you are.
haha keep dreaming, will ping you after another 2 year of endless dump)
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 15, 2019, 07:50:29 PM
In the meantime all time low reached yesterday: 0.00178 BTC per GB.

Buy when there's blood on the street?
Or harbinger of further decline?

Can't be helped. The whole altcoin industry is largely abandoned by speculators and long time investors. The herd will go to where the herd will go. During these times, you will know which developers stuck around even when the financial gain is actually negative.

Is 2019-2020 any different from 2015-2016?
dotcom bubble? never heard). Crypto is in the same condition as dotcom companies without legit business. Only idiots continue to hope for a new bubble in this area)
5  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: Lightning Network on: October 25, 2019, 12:07:11 PM
October 23, 2019: 4 BTC stolen using Lightning Network https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/dlvokv/how_i_lost_4_btc_on_lightning_network/

October 21, 2019: Researchers Uncover Bitcoin ĎAttackí That Could Slow or Stop Lightning Payments https://www.coindesk.com/researchers-uncover-bitcoin-attack-that-could-slow-or-stop-lightning-payments

September 28, 2019: Andreas Brekken: "I've been asked quite a bit why I took down the largest Lightning Network node, LN.shitcoin.com. Constant anxiety was the deciding factor. > When a channel is created, the receiver of the channel was not required to verify the amount of the funding transaction" https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/dae1g0/andreas_brekken_ive_been_asked_quite_a_bit_why_i/

September 27, 2019: Lightning Network Security Vulnerability Full Disclosure: CVE-2019-12998 / CVE-2019-12999 / CVE-2019-13000 https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2019-September/002174.html

September 10, 2019: Lightning Network dev: "We've confirmed instances of the CVE being exploited in the wild. If youíre not on the following versions of either of these implementations then you need to upgrade now to avoid risk of funds loss" https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2019-September/002148.html

August 30, 2019: Lightning Network security alert: Security issues have been found in various lightning projects which could cause loss of funds! https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2019-August/002130.html

May 29, 2019: "PSA: The Lightning Network is being heavily data mined right now. Opening channels allows anyone to cluster your wallet and associate your keys with your IP address." https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/budmfh/on_twitter_psa_the_lightning_network_is_being/

April 24, 2019: Forget 18 months: itís now 30-50 years until Lightning Network is ready https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/bh1gzw/forget_18_months_its_now_3050_years_until/

March 29, 2019: Analysis Shows Lightning Network Suffers From Trust Issues Exacerbated by Rising Fees https://news.bitcoin.com/analysis-shows-lightning-network-suffers-form-trust-issues-exacerbated-by-rising-fees/

March 4, 2019: Lightning users must be online to make a payment, funds must be locked to use, is a honey pot, completion rate deminishes with high value payments, and more https://medium.com/starkware/when-lightning-starks-a90819be37ba

March 17, 2019: TIL that Lightning Network conceptual design and focus to layer 2 scaling for BTC was introduced in February 2013, over 6 years ago (LN whitepaper released February 2015, 4 years ago) https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/b201kd/til_that_lightning_network_conceptual_design_and/

February 28, 2019: "Out of the 1,500 orders submitted on the first day [using Lightning Network], only around 10 percent were successful" https://breakermag.com/i-ordered-lightning-pizza-and-lived-to-tell-the-tale/

March 1, 2019: Lightning Network has become a complete train wreck. Oh by the way, it's no longer 18 months but YEARS until it's ready for mass-consumption. https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/aw71q8/lightning_network_has_become_a_complete_train/

February 28, 2019: Decentralized path routing is still an unsolved problem for Lightning Network (currently "source routing" works at this scale) https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/avt6ow/do_people_agree_with_andreas_antonopoulos_that/

February 25, 2019: Lightning Network bank-wallet is "kind of centralized but it has to be this way if you want mass-adoption" https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/aup68s/lightning_network_bankwallet_is_kind_of/

February 23, 2019: 5 Things I Learned Getting Rekt on Lightning Network https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/atx8jq/psa_important_video_to_watch_if_you_use_lightning/

February 22, 2019: Listen to this great talk on the problems and complexities of using HTLC's on the Lightning Network ⚡️, and possible alternatives. https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/atmlnp/listen_to_this_great_talk_on_the_problems_and/

February 20, 2019: The current state of Bitcoin companies & dealing with Lightning Network ⚡Highlights: Hard to implement, takes a ton of man hours, with no return on investment. LN adds zero utility. The only reason some companies support it is for marketing reasons. https://old.reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/asuoyy/the_current_state_of_bitcoin_companies_dealing/

February 20, 2019: Current requirements to run BTC/LN: 2 hard drives + zfs mirrors, need to run a BTC full node, LN full node + satellite, Watchtower and use a VPN service. And BTC fees are expensive, slow, unreliable. https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/aspkj2/current_requirements_to_run_btcln_2_hard_drives/

January 17, 2019: 18 Months Away? Latest Lightning Network Study Calls System a 'Small Central Clique' https://news.bitcoin.com/18-months-away-latest-lightning-network-study-calls-system-a-small-central-clique/

March 21, 2018: Lightning Network DDoS Sends 20% of Nodes Down https://www.trustnodes.com/2018/03/21/lightning-network-ddos-sends-20-nodes

October 10, 2018: Watchtowers (third party services) are introduced as a way to monitor your funds when you can't be online 24/7 so they aren't stolen https://medium.com/@akumaigorodski/watchtower-support-is-coming-to-bitcoin-lightning-wallet-8f969ac206b2

June 25, 2018: Study finds that the probability of routing $200 on LN between any two nodes is 1% https://diar.co/volume-2-issue-25/

источник - https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/dm0b4y/warning_if_you_try_to_use_the_lightning_network/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 17, 2019, 07:20:29 PM
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Same with bytes as stablecoin collateral, can't sell the collateral if nobody makes a stablecoin that requires bytes for collateral.
course who builds a house on a crappy foundation

Those who don't listen to whiners FUD, but actually build something because they can see the potential and they have learnt how Obyte really works.
Already 6 rounds of developer contest done with new features on TESTNET, 1 more to go, but you still spreading pathetic FUD.
https://medium.com/obyte/sixth-round-of-obyte-autonomous-agents-developer-contest-6aa89bedd712
nobody builds a stable coin there

Maybe the cryptospace doesn't need any more stablecoins, many exchanges already have multiple. Especially, no need for more stablecoins, where you need to trust someone (Tether, Libra) or which require lot of collateral (Maker DAI).
There has been much more interesting ideas on developers contest than yet another stablecoin.
bro, even if someone wanted to create stablecoin on obyte, they would not do this because of problems with liquidity. Stablecoin must have a liquid collateral, otherwise the whole system will collapse after the first dump. Before writing stupid answers, understand how the collateral system works, what is liquidation and how its triggered
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 15, 2019, 08:31:23 PM
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Same with bytes as stablecoin collateral, can't sell the collateral if nobody makes a stablecoin that requires bytes for collateral.
course who builds a house on a crappy foundation
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 14, 2019, 02:10:09 PM
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Anybody can make stablecoin collateralized with bytes on Obyte
bytes is illiquid asset. You can't use it as collateral, because if you need to liquidate it, you will crash the market and cause liquidation of the rest collateral. Your stable currency will crash like a house of cards
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 11, 2019, 12:41:43 PM
How much funding does Obyte have left?
What are the current operational costs?
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 10, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
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that's dirt cheap and you should get as much as you can at this price.
Cheesy
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 10, 2019, 02:47:12 PM
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About the price, it is definitely best time than ever to acquire as many Bytes as possible
you repeat it from the moment you join the project  Cheesy
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 05, 2019, 10:01:30 PM
Sports oracle has been updated to work with Autonomous Agents.  Now it can be requested to trigger an AA of your choice.  The AA, in turn, can process a payout to the winner of the bet, thus making it unnecessary to manually claim the winnings.  This is just one example of what an AA can do, developers are welcome to come up with other ideas and participate in the contest.

Full story: https://medium.com/obyte/sports-oracle-for-autonomous-agents-96b56369168a



Спacибo!
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 19, 2019, 09:24:37 PM
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We believe that the retention rates could be improved by having more apps on the platform that the users would engage with and extract value from.
LOL two years later you heard us. Too late tony

Where have you been living? Under the rock? Obyte has been all the time "we need more adoption". There has been always been more tools available than anybody could need, now there is even more.
users don't need your tools, they need apps. Apps better than other places can offer

No sh!t, and who are doing these apps? Developers. This latest update is specially for them, so they can build more decentralized apps by doing more on-chain.
Are you now saying that you have been telling we need more developers on Obyte all the time and nobody hasn't listened you?
you have no funding anyway, good luck searching for enthusiasts

What are you talking about FUDster? Just because we didn't do ICO doesn't mean we don't have funding. Did you even read any of the announcement posts or you just spread your FUD without even reading what the update was about https://medium.com/obyte/obyte-autonomous-agents-developer-contest-6a67ae3dacd2
check gbyte price, your coins almost worthless. What about talented developers developing really necessary things and not useless crafts? We are sick of it.


$16.159.762 is almost worthless?  Shocked You must be rich as f... if you consider 16 million dollar worthless.

But besides that: What are some "really necessary things" that a coin needs, that this coin does not have? Note the difference: That is necessary for a coin, not a thing that you want to have!
1. cap != money, cap = latest price x supply
2. obyte team don't own most of this supply
this coin does not have use case, investment attractiveness, decentralization
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 19, 2019, 05:51:14 PM
check gbyte price, your coins almost worthless. What about talented developers developing really necessary things and not useless crafts? We are sick of it.
A perfect price for entry ;-)
Why are you here "when everything is crap"? Did you lose your money here?

a bit, i'm to help people do not commit my mistake
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 19, 2019, 03:52:31 PM
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We believe that the retention rates could be improved by having more apps on the platform that the users would engage with and extract value from.
LOL two years later you heard us. Too late tony

Where have you been living? Under the rock? Obyte has been all the time "we need more adoption". There has been always been more tools available than anybody could need, now there is even more.
users don't need your tools, they need apps. Apps better than other places can offer

No sh!t, and who are doing these apps? Developers. This latest update is specially for them, so they can build more decentralized apps by doing more on-chain.
Are you now saying that you have been telling we need more developers on Obyte all the time and nobody hasn't listened you?
you have no funding anyway, good luck searching for enthusiasts

What are you talking about FUDster? Just because we didn't do ICO doesn't mean we don't have funding. Did you even read any of the announcement posts or you just spread your FUD without even reading what the update was about https://medium.com/obyte/obyte-autonomous-agents-developer-contest-6a67ae3dacd2
check gbyte price, your coins almost worthless. What about talented developers developing really necessary things and not useless crafts? We are sick of it.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 19, 2019, 08:13:13 AM
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We believe that the retention rates could be improved by having more apps on the platform that the users would engage with and extract value from.
LOL two years later you heard us. Too late tony

Where have you been living? Under the rock? Obyte has been all the time "we need more adoption". There has been always been more tools available than anybody could need, now there is even more.
users don't need your tools, they need apps. Apps better than other places can offer

No sh!t, and who are doing these apps? Developers. This latest update is specially for them, so they can build more decentralized apps by doing more on-chain.
Are you now saying that you have been telling we need more developers on Obyte all the time and nobody hasn't listened you?
you have no funding anyway, good luck searching for enthusiasts
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 18, 2019, 09:45:14 PM
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We believe that the retention rates could be improved by having more apps on the platform that the users would engage with and extract value from.
LOL two years later you heard us. Too late tony

Where have you been living? Under the rock? Obyte has been all the time "we need more adoption". There has been always been more tools available than anybody could need, now there is even more.
users don't need your tools, they need apps. Apps better than other places can offer
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 18, 2019, 03:59:08 PM
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We believe that the retention rates could be improved by having more apps on the platform that the users would engage with and extract value from.
LOL two years later you heard us. Too late tony
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 17, 2019, 03:50:27 PM
222 new low guys
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 10, 2019, 04:38:44 PM
BTC up - gbyte down
BTC do nothing - gbyte down
BTC down - gbyte down
it's simple 0byte ded
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