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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SYNC]X11|1,000 Coins| NiteSend| Sync Foundation | Manadatory Update on: July 30, 2014, 07:40:12 PM
Sync and Voot might be two different projects, but look what happened. At the moment when Voot started to slowly recover, Sync started too. Is there a way to see how many Voot holders are also Sync holders?
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 07:36:50 PM
Going to sleep. Don't disappoint me and make it 1000+ tomorrow. Tongue

303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 04:35:11 PM
I will gladly commit to the PR team, since jeffersonsairplane seems not to have enough time for everything.
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SYNC]X11|1,000 Coins| NiteSend| Sync Foundation | Manadatory Update on: July 30, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
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Imagin that Bill Gates says Windows is shit, I am switching to Linux.
He is no longer head of Microsoft, so he could do that. But it's about people's mind.
Microsoft could post thousnds of press releases and it won't change a thing.
I am worried, since I am invested in both Voot and Sync (more in Voot, I admit) and I understand that such statements won't change a thing in people's mind. Only Bill Gates/MsCollec fixing his mistakes would.

It is unfair that Sync is suffering along with Voot. But it will continue until Voot situation stabilises.

I understand where you are coming from but SYNC can't do anything about the current problems with VOOT. 

By constantly bringing up this issue you are only harming the SYNC community when it has nothing to do with us.  I too lost Voot but now that MsCollec has gone I have moved on.

The removal of MsCollec was the most that the SYNC team could do. They have done it even though MsCollec had not done anything wrong with respect to this coin. 

They took a very tough decision in order to preserve the integrity of SYNC, the SYNC community and all the members of the team and to show that they did not approve of MsCollec's actions even if they were with a separate coin.

If the VOOT community wants MsCollec to fix their coin then that is between them and MSCollec.

The SYNC community should not be held to ransom in order to get VOOT fixed.  There is absolutely nothing further that they can do.

Now please, only discuss things here that relate directly to SYNC (otherwise it only seems like you are trying to deliberately crash the price of this coin to make yourself feel better).

I am still holding my Sync, so trust me, I do not want to harm it. Yes, I want to fix Voot, because I hold more Voot than Sync, but I also want to protect my Sync investment. Those coins might not be connected now, but they are connected in people's mind like Bill Gates and Microsoft. Only way to save one is to save the other. The foundation could help by not dumping voot (which they did). What could they do now? They could rebuy what they dumped, they could help deliver what MsCollec promised, they can help build walls (on both Voot and Sync). Of course they don't have too, but soon all of us will realise that it is the only way.
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 04:00:52 PM
MsCollec just hired people to develop the coin.
Anyone of us could do this.

I could help and take over, however I don't feel that I am the best person since I am not too knowledgeable when it comes to technical details. However as a mayor holder I could help the new dev team.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SYNC]X11|1,000 Coins| NiteSend| Sync Foundation | Manadatory Update on: July 30, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
the price keeps going down? why?

MS is burning sync by association. He fucked up the situation with voot hard and lost a lot of reputation. I sold sync and voot as soon as MS said he would stop working on voot and then changed his mind and said he was serious. completely unproofessional.t

I refer you to my previous post.  MSCOLLEC is no longer part of the SYNC team.

Imagin that Bill Gates says Windows is shit, I am switching to Linux.
He is no longer head of Microsoft, so he could do that. But it's about people's mind.
Microsoft could post thousnds of press releases and it won't change a thing.
I am worried, since I am invested in both Voot and Sync (more in Voot, I admit) and I understand that such statements won't change a thing in people's mind. Only Bill Gates/MsCollec fixing his mistakes would.

It is unfair that Sync is suffering along with Voot. But it will continue until Voot situation stabilises.
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 03:32:58 PM
oh thanks and were was voot as mscollec was taking this Thing over ?

Sub 100

That would be about right.

I hope you are not going with this to such conclusion:
"MsCollec took over Voot at 100 satoshi, now coin is worth 500 satoshi, so it is a success and not failure", because that's not the issue here.

Me myself got in at 500 satoshi, so I am happy.
But many people were tempted by MsCollec who promised many things, delivered only on some of them and at the night before supposed delivery of first of the other things just run away. That's the problem here. It's like being helpful at the beginning just to scam later.

I guess noone is having problems with price fluctuations - this is crypto.
But cheating like MsCollec did is not right. That guy is damned in the crypto community unless proven innocent. And everything he touches from now on will burn. Unless in some magical way he manages to fix what he did to Voot and Sync (the latter as a collateral damage, because he didn't actually harm that coin directly).

You pretty much summed it up.

LTCagt, I don't know if you are new to Voot or are just trying to understant what happened, but bottomline is:
MsCollec gave some promises and did not deliver on them. He hired some devs, then pumped the price and run away, tweeting that he is finished with the coin, which made the price collapse. Now because of that there is not much trust in the community. Theoretically everything should be fine, since the innovations: Voot Exchange, VootCloud and Voot Market were paid for and will be delivered by Smoke Team.

Unfortunatelly, people do not trust MsCollec anymore and ara afraid to invest more in the coin but they also believe in the innovations and are afraid to sell Voot because they still believe in it (with some exceptions). What this coin needs is:
- better communication between devs and community
- buy support (constant buy walls)
- promotion of the new featueres when the appear

I agree that probably most people jumped in at 1700 satoshi (althought probably lot of them jumped at 2000+ and some of them at 1000+).
I think that ranting will continue till the price goes back to at least 1500 satoshi and promised features will get delivered (which is 100% sure but there is too much panic in the community right now and noone trusts MsCollec).
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 01:06:01 PM
status update on exchange?

tonight expected.

Where was that said

There is no new ETA. Still waiting from Sunday.
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 12:32:27 PM
Today it was once again proven that voot is indestructible. Someone tried to spread extremely harmful rumours and it did not kill the coin.
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 12:26:32 PM
Trying to trick people into your buy orders again? Wink
You said you would sell within 48 hours Smiley why wait? 1M coins won't crash the market.

Would be stupid to sell now if tomorrow price will be higher. Wink
311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 12:17:17 PM
Trying to trick people into your buy orders again? Wink
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 11:58:31 AM
Do you understand what would happen if I would try to sell such amount of Voot on the exchange? Selling through escrow is only way not to crash the market.

In the end it doesn't matter where you sell your coins.

There is only su much demand for this coin. Even if you sell it outside of exchange it's going to make the price drop, because you are taking potential buyer out of the market either way.

The market is so small, everybody willing to buy the coin will buy it on an exchange. it's not like the trade that happened on the BTC market.

either way if you sell you will lower the price.

Holding for the greater good then.
You can check in the wallet.
I hope that brings more trust to the community.
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 11:43:19 AM

Do you understand what would happen if I would try to sell such amount of Voot on the exchange? Selling through escrow is only way not to crash the market.

yes I do, you would crash it pretty hard. By announcing it you are still raising FUD, at least fear. Especially when you put up a deadline and threaten to dump.

you can always choose not to announce it and sell it off bit by bit. Which would probably be the better of all 3 options, assuming that you want to cut your losses and not devalue your remaining assets to much, instead of crashing the price and buy back in lower.

You might be right on that. Anyway, I have no problems with mod deleting my post.
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 11:20:40 AM
Will the real smoke team please stand up? Wink
315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 11:16:15 AM
Maybe money from paid votes should be used to support Voot, like in sync coin?
316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 10:42:13 AM

Please delete this post, for things like that you have market, this is forum so stop spreading FUD.


LOL, he is doing it right!
Last time someone tried to sell that many coins on the exchange it collapsed to 65 satoshi!
So you should thank him for not actually dumping it on the exchange!

this actually is FUD!

If he sells off half, without the intention of rebuying, he is devaluating the half he keeps. which wouldn't be logical.

by saying it, he already motivates other people to sell before he "sells", which classifies as FUD to me.

Do you understand what would happen if I would try to sell such amount of Voot on the exchange? Selling through escrow is only way not to crash the market.
317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 08:35:20 AM
VOOT SALE!

OK, I am starting to feel insecure here.

I am one of the biggest Voot holders.
I will gladly pass my coins (50% of them) to someone within the community at the price of 500 satoshi.
I won't dump coins on the exchange because it would collapse it and kill the coin completely.

I've got exactly 921360.09806301 Voot and I am willing to sell half of them. As you can see on the rich list, it makes me one of the largest whales in Voot.

I don't want to kill the coin so I won't be dumping in on the exchange, however I would be happy to sell half of the coins through escrow.

Here is a proof of me being fourth biggest holder of Voot:
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/voot/#!rich

The offer is valid for the next 48 hours. It is not possible to buy only some of the coins. If noone happens to be interested, I will be selling the coins on the exchange. I know that I hold over 1% of all coins, so I will do my best to not crash the market and will try to sell off gradually.

Sorry for the bad news, but this game just got too risky to me.
318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 30, 2014, 06:06:35 AM
A quick update for everyone, from the SMOKE devs:

- at no point will there be any currency (USD, EUR, CAD, etc.) conversion on the exchange, from any country only the trade of crypto currency will be enabled
- there will also be stop gaps placed to help prevent any fraudulent or bad activity to take place

The dev also told me to emphasize that the exchange, although anonymous, will only be used for legitimate transactions only. At no point will they permit any illegal or illegitimate purposes. Any users found using the exchange that violates the terms will be banned and punished if severe.

These are just words from the dev himself. They're currently doing everything they can to make sure the exchange launch is smooth and without any issues as well as optimizing it's security features. As it is an exchange that will deal with people's money, security is a high priority. Launching an insecure exchange and allowing people to deposit funds will do much more damage to this coin's and devs' than a late launch.

Also, please note that the screenshots shared by me are beta versions of the exchange. Do not be surprised if the exchange looks different on launch, I have no further access to any newer versions/builds of the exchange yet.

Great!

Good that I've accumulated. Cheesy
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 29, 2014, 05:32:47 PM
So is the exchange going to released today or not??

It was supposed to be released on Saturday but was postponed and new ETA is unknown.
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon on: July 29, 2014, 01:41:22 PM
Lol anyone who thinks this coin will go up soon should take a look at the sell book and then take a look at the buying book.

Just did and the order book is strong to the buy side.

Thanks for pointing it out.



Yes, and probably there is lots of fake sell walls.
I myself have over 4 BTC worth of coins on the sell walls, just in case price jumps really high.
I also have some buy orders on the buy side on hilariously low levels, because who knows, maybe I will get lucky.
I guess I am not the only one, so probably we are much closer to pre-incident prices than you might think.
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