I'm the co-admin of Moon3D.io . I am adding to KXU's point


1. We have not said anything incorrect about the House Edge! The average house edge is 1.5%, but the range can be from -3% to +3% (i.e. a player can beat the house by 3% as well). Stack your screenshot does not contradict with our statement. Yes a player's edge can go to 0% or +3%, if they play the game wisely.

2. Stack has made several posts lying/defaming Moon3D.io - these posts should not be considered trustworthy. For example, below is a video where Stack calls Ethercrash a Scam and tells player's not to trust them. This is a pattern of lying/defaming sites to scare players off. The main goal is to get site operators like KXU and I to pay for the videos/posts to be delisted (like Ethercrash's video below).
 

• Stack's Delisted Video titled "DON"T TRUST ETHERCRASH"
• Incase the above video gets deleted, I have archived it here as well

If you'd like to speak to player's who use and trust our site, please join our Discord or ask Moon3D chat. They can verify that we have always been fair and paid out all our players!

The state being largely the same is not true. There may be a few of the same variables at best, most everything else is completely different. You're only evaluating the limited scope of the minified code. Also in regards to the anti-lag algorithm. Should a one liner count?

Your description does not begin to give us credit where due! It does not mention the redesign effort and upgrading of outdated code we performed. Additionally it does not factor in our realtime ETH exchange backend or any of the visually obvious design changes that we’ve made. 


To your point on FAQ (which since Daniel pointed out, we also updated), but is FAQ really the criteria on which we evaluate software copyright? To me, it is absurd that we are even talking about the FAQ.




Fair to who? Us getting the license certainly does not benefit crash players. At best, it would give Daniel some pocket change. It does not seem “fair” to a startup to be forced to either pay for a license or Open Source their competitive edge (in a sea of commoditized v1 clones). Hence we are sticking to our guns.

Frankly its a shame that the only people who think it is “unfair” to use the open-source code are other game operators that have cloned v1 BaB (or in your case made BaB v1). Much like George RR Martin wouldn’t be ecstatic at you downloading GOT, I’m sure you and the other license holders aren’t ecstatic about us not buying it.

Still to come out here and publicly claim we are untrustworthy (even tho we never did any wrong to our players), seems more “unfair” to me. Saying things like this “does not give me much optimism for your future” and we are “tarnishing our brand” just seems like blatant attacks on our character, rather than our actions as game operators. Still you’re entitled to your opinion. We will continue to build trust in our community one feature/one day at a time. I’m sure consistency over time will benefit us!

Hi! To address your concerns in order:


I think this is exactly the point, we don’t believe we directly copied the BaB code at all. As a matter of fact, we took a lot of painstaking effort redesigning experience beyond the usual v1 clones and upgrading outdated packages. A lot of the changes we made are not only visually obvious, but also changes to the core stack and game functionality. 




In regards to your core point on piracy, frankly speaking we don’t respect the integrity of copyrights on the internet. I spent my childhood torrenting away, because all the good content took ages to come to where I lived. Moreover, I've personally used countless stack overflow answers and several npm packages with no concern to whoever wrote them. I think a lot of people in this community have benefitted from similar use of the internet. It seems to me that a subjective moral debate around internet piracy, doesn't hinder both kxu and I from being trustworthy game operators.


To your point on open sourcing our code. Given all the modifications we made, open sourcing our code will open us to potential software exploits and make us less competitive against those that just copied BaB v1. As an early company that doesn't seem wise, and that's why we won't do it.



Having said that we don’t plan to leave our community with just another v1 BaB clone. And that’s why we push features constantly, almost every week we add some tweaks. And sure @StackGambler you are right to say we can be slow at pushing out all features, though we've always pulled through and gotten to the requests. And we do have plenty more features to come!




@RHavar you do bring up a really good point on trust, it is a top priority for us. We believe trust comes from: consistency over time. Each week we consistently push new features and fairly payout our players so over time players in the community will definitely take notice! We can't help that other game operators do not appreciate our approach, but we believe we can build trust with the community by continuing to prove ourselves over time. Which is exactly what we've been doing!

I'm an admin of Moon3D! Please check out this thread where we address BaB License !

I'm one of the operators on Moon3D. Bitinity regarding the BaB License, see our thread here!

Hello All!



kxu1005 and I are the operators of Moon3D and we are here to address the “Max Profit” issue above.
Apologies for the slow response, we are not as active on BTCTalk.



TL;DR -> This was a bug. And it was fixed the same week we were informed!
 


What happened?
Code from our staging server was incorrectly pushed to our production build
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How it happened?
Our staging server runs on Rinkeby ETH. The maxWin was modified on staging server to run tests. The modified maxWin was pushed to the client-side but not correspondingly on the server side. Hence the desync you see in the video!


How did we address it?
We were informed of this issue (about a week ago), and as part of our weekly updates we pushed a fix 2 nights ago! 


Why we don’t have a Bustabit License?
See this thread!



@StackGambler: We did not know about this bug 2 months ago (see above), that is false rumor spread by the EC operators. The same people who spam-attacked our website promoting their own games last week.



@TryNinja: We are still in Beta, we should have an ANN seeding event very soon!



@RHavar: You built an awesome game man, and we want to pay homage to it! We are adding new variations to the game that we think you’d appreciate too. More stuff to come down the road, so don't write us off just yet. Appreciate it!