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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning about Lootbits.io on: May 29, 2019, 08:46:45 AM
they are not mining but there a lot of pop-ups that you need to close and this is normal for a faucet like LOOTBITS

Lootbits is not a faucet.

I quote the following from their ToS page:
"The Website serves as an online based game".
"The credits and balances on the Website are intended to be used on internal features of the Website."
"None of credits, balances or other rewards on the Website have real monetary value. User balances do not place the Website under an obligation and can be changed or nullified by the Website at any time and without prior notice."

but I don't consider them legit as you cannot earn if you are going to do it alone as the payout is very high, you have to complete their premium offer to get more points.

You cannot earn anyway as I cleared above, though collecting points is easy. Here's a screenshot of my account right now:


Believe it or not, I didn't complete any offer. didn't invite anyone. did it all by myself collecting free gems and opening boxes on a daily basis. it takes about 10-15 days to reach the highest level. from there you start to get 35 points/gems/boxes per hour + another 5 from the daily poll + another 75 from the daily clicking target (which you can do by yourself). and if you're lucky you can get an extra 420 playing one of their gambling games (Jungle). so as you can see it's easy to get several hundred points everyday.

But the thing is no matter how many points you have. you'd have to spend months (3 months at least) to reach the WORTHLESS threshold, because they determine how much credit you get. they control everything.
You know the popular saying: "the house always wins"? well that applies to this kind of websites too. They make you believe that you're winning, only to benefit themselves eventually.

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning about Lootbits.io on: May 29, 2019, 08:35:18 AM
I don't even see any ads on their front page, which is the most prominent source of income for most faucets.

They don't need to run ads on their front page. they'd rather keep it clean to attract users to signup, then they would show them ads on ALL pages.

The fact that it's so easy to build up your balance, and there are mechanisms that essentially try to suck you into the endless cycle of slaving away for them (both your computing power and your labour), along with a high withdrawal threshold should be a sign enough that they have absolutely no intentions of paying anyone out.

What's the point of using them then even if they did not mine in secrecy?

You're exactly right.

I'm just curious to know what the withdraw button does. haha. I just want to click it and see what will happen.

Their ToS clearly states that no one will get paid any kind of real money. it's just a game. you can only use your credit for gambling on their website. the credit has no value. it's just a number.

With that said you would think that they're honest and transparent. that they're not bluffing anyone. BUT there is a section where you put your Bitcoin address to receive your payment after you reach the threshold. so I would assume that they're not as honest as one might think. they're probably liars. They're contradicting themselves!
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning about Lootbits.io on: May 28, 2019, 01:46:06 AM
I don't think they are mining but the high load is because of too many ads as this happen with me whenever I use a site that have a high number of ads.

Given that they're using every way they can to gain profits from their traffic (Ad views, surveys, referral links... etc) It's obvious that they would consider mining too, especially when you know that other similar sites offer mining as one of the ways to get credit. popspins.com for example. same business model. another website to skip.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning about Lootbits.io on: May 25, 2019, 09:03:05 PM
besides the very high withdrawal which you can only reach if you have tons of referrals under you, I stopped doing this after I found that very high threshold because I'm not good in referring.

Collecting lots of gems is easy, but the thing is their value decreases as your balance grows.

I managed to reach the highest level and got to 69% without taking surveys or referring a single person. So I can get hundreds of gems daily, but the amount of rewards I get decreases as I progress, and despite that I was willing to continue playing their game to the end, but now that I know they're abusing my machine. I'm not willing to do that anymore.

My point is, you don't need to do any referring to get the benefit of that which is gaining lots of gems, but even if you do have thousands of gems, you probably won't reach the threshold in months, if ever.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam: check out user reviews here on: May 25, 2019, 03:25:01 AM
Update:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147043
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning about Lootbits.io on: May 25, 2019, 02:54:10 AM
good to know, thanks.

You're welcome Smiley

Site is likely a scam since it has a high withdrawal minimum of 0.049 BTC. Just like you, I also experienced some minor lags while trying to scroll page down. Site is just online to make people view ads and complete task in their offerwall and scam them off.

Any bitcointalk link about their service?

Exactly.

Here's:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137468
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Warning about Lootbits.io on: May 25, 2019, 01:41:33 AM
Warning: It is highly likely that Lootbits.io is utilizing its users' machines resources to mine cryptocurrencies without their consent or knowledge.

I reached that conclusion based on my experience, because every time I visit that shady website my laptop works at full speed and sometimes overheats. and when I close it everything goes back to normal.

It's not my laptop. I have a decent one. and that doesn't happen with other websites. Even if I open dozens of tabs it doesn't happen. only when I visit Lootbits.io

The mining process probably gets activated when you click on the popup messages they show you whenever you do anything on their website (for example: when you claim your free gems) or perhaps it just starts automatically after you spend several minutes on their website.


Don't break your machine.
STAY AWAY FROM THAT WEBSITE!
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam on: May 20, 2019, 01:57:04 AM
Friends the video which i shared here has an issue in that " that user has sent exactly 0.049 btc and claiming it as "site has paid" editing videos to attract users

Site has not paid to any one

I noted that 10 days ago:

Friends, here is the latest video of one User - he used BLOCKCHAIN WALLET - Proof is shown lively - Wallet Balance is at 0.049 BTC Exactly

after seeing this video i'm planning to work on this.. ok lets work now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckgYMnd43s

There's something fishy about that video. it's -- at least partially -- fake, and you can check for yourself.

See the addresses? https://youtu.be/TckgYMnd43s?t=410
Here you can see the real transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1t85aSCzJVCnvc8WLGWkD6hyPNQ6fWcRM

Around $7 worth of Bitcoin sent. Nowhere near $300.

Another clue is that the total wallet balance includes the values of all cryptocurrencies, not just Bitcoin, so how come he has $0.07 worth of Bitcoin Cash and the Total shows only his BTC balance?
https://youtu.be/TckgYMnd43s?t=368
It should be 299.1 not 299.03 Wink

And hey! Bitcoin price yesterday was $60,51.48? I thought it was $6k not $61. what the heck! Shocked
FAKE

Notice that the price in Orange is the real price, and the one in Blue is altered.
Epic fail...

He probably altered the values with the help of the inspector tool in the browser. which is a very easy thing to do.

To prove that, here's an example:


As you can see I put crazy random numbers, although I can be more accurate if I want. Smiley
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam or not on: May 18, 2019, 01:06:16 PM
With the input of many users I think it is clear that it is a scam because most ppl confermed it that higher you will go the lower the btc reward will be and also most boxes will be empty. And if they are paying sites why don't they lower the withdrawal amount to 0.001 as anyone with lvl1 can achieve it with opening just a few boxes.
THE SITE IS A SCAM AND DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON SUCH SITE THAT YOU WILL REGRET IT IN LATER ON

Exactly what I have been thinking from day one.
As you reach a higher percentage, the points you keep receiving keep lowering in away that by the time one reaches above 80%, it will look virtually impossible to reach the withdrawal limit and with this people will give up before reaching there.
So basically it's will be time wasted on the player's side and maybe ad views gained from their side.

Right Smiley
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam or not on: May 17, 2019, 06:04:04 AM
Update:
I'm at 68% right now.

The rewards I get at this point are few hundred Satoshis. sometimes even lower. as low as 37 Satoshis! haha Cheesy

Maybe they will pay someone the minimum threshold eventually, but it would take a very looooooong time to reach it.

They will milk the players/users for as long as they can. It may take months or years to reach the threshold and it you might never reach it after all. even if you have thousands of gems.

I'm almost certain that no one got paid yet. It's almost impossible. or perhaps it is.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam or not on: May 10, 2019, 05:03:37 AM
"lootbits" is a Scam, avoid it and tell others to avoid "lootbits" scam authors. They told "Increase your level and get even more!" it's lie, as high level you get, as low "Bitcoins" you get and as often (95 %) you get "Empty Box" notification. They are of course Scam Scam Scam, not waste your or your friends time.

Yeah, absolutely. Don't waste your time on it and don't invite others to join it.

The problem is that people have very little patience, so they start promoting the website to get more gems, not knowing that they won't get anything good in return eventually.

I never invited anyone, and won't recommend a website to others before I make sure that it is legit.

Their #1 goal is to make users take surveys so that they make money. that's why they make it the most profitable way in terms of gaining gems.
So people think "Let's be smart here, instead of waiting hours to get a few gems, let's take surveys and get thousands of gems quickly" which is not so smart actually.

I didn't take any of their surveys, although they promise to give 700 gems for a single one.
The point is, I don't want to fall to their trap, I don't want them to scam me and benefit from me as they wish, so I'll just continue to open boxes. Smiley
It's easy, only takes a few minutes everyday and it's fully automated.
You can use a mouse recorder to collect gems and open boxes for you automatically. Smiley

Currently, the maximum amount of gems I can get per day is about 600. my average is about 200.
Right now I'm at 65% of the threshold and my progress is 1% per day, so it may take a month to reach 100% and I'm not in a hurry. Cheesy

Quote from; https://www.beermoneyforum.com/threads/lootbits-io-reviews-scam-or-legit.39335/post-319427
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it goes fast in the beginning but at the end it takes very long because you get a lot of empty boxes and small amounts of bitcoin. I'm on level 5 a long time but still have reached 73% of the minimum withdraw amount.

Quote from; https://www.beermoneyforum.com/threads/lootbits-io-reviews-scam-or-legit.39335/post-318096
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There are tons of clues its fake:
1. terms say at point 2 its an online based game
2. terms say at point 8 theres no monetary value
3. terms say they can nullify your stats at any time
4. no vpn detection. You can fake easily invites by changing the ip. I tried it. Made 87 invites with random names and emails got country bonus, registration and clicking on link - tons of gems and xp - lvl 5 portal box in under 1 hour
5. scam advising sites call it scam
6. Detection of adblock+ but no detection of other uncommon adblockers
7. whois domain resolve says lootbits is a whoisguard protected site. No information about owners. Every serious company doesnt need a whois protection
8. 0.049 btc for dumb riskfree tapping on boxes REALLY WTF?!?! ARE YOU FU**IN SERIOUS?!?!

Terms of service: https://lootbits.io/tos.php

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is a scam (probably), but as I said, I'll continue to play the game out of curiosity. I just wanna see what will happen when I reach 100% and hit the Withdraw button.
What will they say?, what excuse/error message will they give?, will my balance stay as it is or not? just curious. Cheesy
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam or not on: May 10, 2019, 04:16:53 AM
-snip-
Please keep us updated here on how it goes.
You bet I will Smiley

Friends, here is the latest video of one User - he used BLOCKCHAIN WALLET - Proof is shown lively - Wallet Balance is at 0.049 BTC Exactly

after seeing this video i'm planning to work on this.. ok lets work now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TckgYMnd43s

There's something fishy about that video. it's -- at least partially -- fake, and you can check for yourself.

See the addresses? https://youtu.be/TckgYMnd43s?t=410
Here you can see the real transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1t85aSCzJVCnvc8WLGWkD6hyPNQ6fWcRM

Around $7 worth of Bitcoin sent. Nowhere near $300.

Another clue is that the total wallet balance includes the values of all cryptocurrencies, not just Bitcoin, so how come he has $0.07 worth of Bitcoin Cash and the Total shows only his BTC balance?
https://youtu.be/TckgYMnd43s?t=368
It should be 299.1 not 299.03 Wink

And hey! Bitcoin price yesterday was $60,51.48? I thought it was $6k not $61. what the heck! Shocked
FAKE

Notice that the price in Orange is the real price, and the one in Blue is altered.
Epic fail...

He probably altered the values with the help of the inspector tool in the browser. which is a very easy thing to do.

To prove that, here's an example:


As you can see I put crazy random numbers, although I can be more accurate if I want. Smiley
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam or not on: May 10, 2019, 02:42:57 AM
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On their homepage they say: "Open Free Boxes Win Real Bitcoins!", "Get the BTC winnings sent directly to your wallet! We process withdrawal requests multiple times per day."
And on their ToS page they say: "None of credits, balances or other rewards on the Website have real monetary value.".

This is something very intriguing, they are rewarding people with Bitcoin but they don't consider this with monetary value.

It sure is. and I don't know how they can be "Real Bitcoins" and yet have no monetary value! It seems to me like flat out lying.

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unfortunately I'm getting a lot of empty rewards I don't think I can reach their minimum withdrawal.

Based on my experience, about 70% of the boxes are empty, and that doesn't include the badge-boxes which are worthless after you complete your collection of the 36 unique badges, which I did. so we're left with about 10% of Bitcoin-fraction boxes.

BTW, I'm at level 4 right now, so I get 25 boxes per hour. but since I reached that level I haven't received a single xp point (you level up every time you collect 100 xp points - 5 is the highest level).

Note that I used to get around 9k Satoshis per credit-box at the beginning, and now I get around 1.5k. So I guess the reward is fixed to be around $5 worth of Bitcoin per day if you collect most of your gems, no matter what level you're at, how much your balance is or how many boxes you get.

With all that said, I gotta admit that Lootbits has the cleanest design of all scammer sites I know (if it is proven to be so), and that's what makes me come back and continue to play, plus my sense of curiosity to know the end of it. Grin
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: lootbits.io is a scam or not on: May 09, 2019, 02:29:30 AM
On their homepage they say: "Open Free Boxes Win Real Bitcoins!", "Get the BTC winnings sent directly to your wallet! We process withdrawal requests multiple times per day."
And on their ToS page they say: "None of credits, balances or other rewards on the Website have real monetary value.".

Also, what kind of website asks its users to use different IPs?
I only see that as a way for them to gain more profits from ads and surveys.

Think about it.. it takes about a month to reach the minimum withdrawal threshold; How can they pay the thousands of people that are using their website 0.049 BTC a month each?!
That's about $250-$300 per user at least.

How much money are they making to pay that much for just viewing a handful of ads?

It's too good to be true.

You can add to that the alteration of algorithms to pay users less as their balance grows, so that it would take much longer to reach the threshold than first thought.

And the most important thing is what they themselves say in their ToS page:
"User balances do not place the Website under an obligation and can be changed or nullified by the Website at any time and without prior notice."
Hahaha. so they can change your balance to 0 at anytime. and you have no right to complain because you already agreed to the ToS when you registered.
Even if you want to complain, you can't. They don't even have a contact page. no email, no Fb page, nothing.

Notice that the word "Website" is capitalized, which indicates that the ToS are copied from a different website, with the name of the original website replaced with the word "Website".
For example, these two websites have the same ToS:
https://btcsmash.io/tos.php
https://tokenrush.com/tos.php

Do not trust any of them.

Edit: Although I'm almost certain that they're scammers, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, and I'll keep playing that game to the end. until I know for sure what will happen when I reach the threshold.
I'm currently at 64%.

Don't waste your time. I'll waste mine for us all and let you know when I'm done Cheesy
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